Rough/Constant Irrumatio Tribute (and sharing) Thread

[headcrusher]

That comparison doesn't make sense because noise is necessarily a component of drag racing while vomiting is not necessarily a part of irrumatio. The discussion is not about an essential element of irrumatio, it is a controversial and adjacent fetish.

Since electric motorsports is now a thing and you can find a lot of fans bitching about the lack of ICE noise, we can say that noise and flames is not a part of motorsport...

That sounds absurd, right? Not more than saying that vomit is alien to irrumatio.

 

[tpcid]

That comparison doesn't make sense because noise is necessarily a component of drag racing while vomiting is not necessarily a part of irrumatio. The discussion is not about an essential element of irrumatio, it is a controversial and adjacent fetish.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Regardless... the very existence of numerous irama titles that contain zero vomiting is already proof that the 2 are not inseparable.

 

[tpcid]

Everyone has their opinion, but I can't help but laugh when I read a irrumatio fan talking about "vomit nonsense".

I suppose that somewhere you'll find a drag racing fan talking about "noise and flames nonsense".

Perhaps I ought to clarify, to ensure what I said didn't get misinterpreted:

Vomiting certainly happens during irama — I don't regard this as an alien occurence. It's natural (& understandable) when a large cock is ramming a girl's throat repeatedly. While it's not my favourite thing in the world to witness... I won't throw a tantrum when it "just happens" during a scene — because I totally get it.

The specific thing I dislike is when vomiting becomes the sole focus of a [portion of a] scene, and the production team goes out of their way to intentionally induce vomiting, in a way that's unrelated to performing a throatfuck. Some examples would be: deliberately triggering the gag reflex using fingers, shoving inanimate objects in, using catheters to siphon out the stomach contents, etc.

There's also the "force-feeding" aspect. No sane actress would knowingly consume a fuckton of thick fluids & chunky foods of their own volition, when they know they're about to do an irama shoot. These are obviously consumed on account of the production, to intentionally generate the grossest puke possible.

The common denominator in these is that vomit becomes the focus & intention of the scene (or at least, that portion of the scene) — while throatfucking takes a backseat. And that's what I actually take issue with.

 

[Discostu33]

Big pet peeve I’ve got is when they do that milk enema shit in a dedicated throat fucking film. Absolutely no need to feature that kinda thing, I don’t understand how that’s a turn on squirting milk up a woman’s ass and having her fart it out

 

[zombierambo]

Since electric motorsports is now a thing and you can find a lot of fans bitching about the lack of ICE noise, we can say that noise and flames is not a part of motorsport...

That sounds absurd, right? Not more than saying that vomit is alien to irrumatio.

They're bitching because noise is a normal part of drag racing, which is not like vomit being a normal part of irrumatio. If vomit is your thing so be it but at least understand that it's not strange for some irrumatio fans to not embrace it because it is clearly an adjacent fetish which not everyone shares, which is why it's controversial. No big deal for everyone to have their preference, not every film is for everyone. Vomit is gross and off-putting to me and it seems like at least a few others here share my preference so I don't think it's that uncommon. Most of these vomit titles are obviously specifically focusing on vomit because it is its own fetish, it's not like an unexpected side effect, they are intentionally producing it.

 

[Foreigner1]

Perhaps I ought to clarify, to ensure what I said didn't get misinterpreted:

Vomiting certainly happens during irama — I don't regard this as an alien occurence. It's natural (& understandable) when a large cock is ramming a girl's throat repeatedly. While it's not my favourite thing in the world to witness... I won't throw a tantrum when it "just happens" during a scene — because I totally get it.

The specific thing I dislike is when vomiting becomes the sole focus of a [portion of a] scene, and the production team goes out of their way to intentionally induce vomiting, in a way that's unrelated to performing a throatfuck. Some examples would be: deliberately triggering the gag reflex using fingers, shoving inanimate objects in, using catheters to siphon out the stomach contents, etc.

There's also the "force-feeding" aspect. No sane actress would knowingly consume a fuckton of thick fluids & chunky foods of their own volition, when they know they're about to do an irama shoot. These are obviously consumed on account of the production, to intentionally generate the grossest puke possible.

The common denominator in these is that vomit becomes the focus & intention of the scene (or at least, that portion of the scene) — while throatfucking takes a backseat. And that's what I actually take issue with.

There’s no better way to describe it than how you phrased it.
That’s basically what I wrote, just much less effectively than you, on the Japanese site:



there is a difference between [1]clear, thick, translucent, sticky, stringy, bubbly like a foam (saliva) and acidic stomach fluids or actually vomiting undigested food.
Saliva is produced in the mouth and throat by the glands—it’s part of the “deep throat” act - a real "lubrication".
In contrast, stomach fluids aren’t produced by the oral cavity; the fluids comes from the stomach, not the throat.
it is result of the gag reflex in the throat, which triggers it, but all the point of "Deepthroat" is to suppress the gag reflex.

So I fully agree with you, and the way you expressed it is perfectly precise.
if it "just happens" then fine, but when it becomes the "thing" to focus on - it is severely damaging the scene(s).


[1]: in Japanese they call it えずき汁 which translated to Ezuki soup/juice/saliva which means Egg juice
This actually erotic, when actor spread and rub it on actress' face and body parts and the dick coated in that.



Although what I’ve already written is very long, I’m adding a bit more.
There’s also this "Deepthroat" + Urination subgenre. for example in the film MISM-432.
The “deep throat” act is very weak, and the film focuses on urination.
In my opinion, it’s a pretty weak film because the focus on throat–dick interaction is almost nonexistent, and when it does happen, it isn’t done well.


Ultimately, "Deepthroat" films are pretty simple: there is a actor's dick, must be a large one to conduct the act, and a actress’s throat, which needs to be open for this act, The dick needs to penetrate deep into the throat and fuck it along the entire length/depth of the throat.
Anything else in the film is an extra that creates an visual effects on the viewer, whether positive or negative.

 

[pervmeister69]

Anyone recognize her?

It's kind of a curse to be aware of a title that will never be pirated, lol.

【イラマ喉奥発射】私の喉使ってください＠さわ　イライラ棒喉奥でストレス発散

今日は会社の上司に怒られてムシャクシャしてんだ！年下のガキのくせに生意気言いやがって！この溜まったストレスを女の喉奥で発散してやる！おら喉貸せや！イラマしてんだから逃げんなよ！お前は一生俺のストレス

irm.avlabo.com

 

[tpcid]

I'm still not that good at Japanese in general, not to mention dirty talk, but there is a lot of repetition, naturally (meaning that you will hear certain phrases very often). I wouldn't say Japanese is "more exquisite", it's just different. As anthropologists say, "there are no good or bad cultures, just different cultures". And porn is naturally different as well. Again, I don't know enough to give a detailed opinion, but for now, I feel that even the most basic things are different

For example, let's imagine a typical oral JOI in English. The grammar and the vocab that comes to my mind is, first of all: "Let me suck you off", "Your cock is so big", "It's so hard", "Your balls are so full", "Cum down my throat"

Now, Japanese is very close yet interestingly different in most of these cases (i.e. trying to convey the same message):

• I wouldn't say I hear "suck" (しゃぶる) in actual speech a lot; I hear 舐める, "lick", as in, 舐めてもいいですか？ ("Is it OK if I lick it?"); now, of course, it it's a gyaru, she would say something more direct, I bet, but nothing comes to mind
• The size descriptions might be the closest to English, but still, in Japanese, you don't have to use "It is...", i.e. it's just 大きい！ ("Big!"); and I wouldn't say that in Japanese, you even mention "cock" in this specific case; and even if you did, literally, it would be using different grammar (saying あなたのチンポはすごく大きい sounds... very textbook-ish), i.e. you would just hear the keywords, and the rest will be in the intonation: "チンチン、大きい！" I would note as well that I haven't heard a lot of "advanced euphemisms" (like "meat stick", 肉棒) in actual speech (but then again, you don't hear those in English either, unless it's a goon/dirty talk JOI specifically); so, you will see those a lot on JAV covers, but to hear them in speech, you will need to find a JOI or dirty talk JAV (which reminds me of this very prolific series)
• "It's so hard" is very close, though, again, I feel that in Japanese, you're more likely to use an onomatopoeia here, e.g. ビンビンですね (there is no similar onomatopoeia in English, I think, but it's like "It's stiff-stiff, isn't it?")
• As for the balls, again, you would hear an onomatopoeia (パンパン), or it would be phrased differently, i.e. いっぱいためてね ("You've saved up a lot, haven't you?")
• And finally, even though you do hear 出して (literally "let out"), I have never heard 喉の奥に出して in actual AV, though, again, maybe you do hear it in niche JOI titles

So, basically, Japanese just goes about dirty talk differently, on different levels

I missed this reply earlier. Very interesting breakdown, thanks for that!

 

[gregorsamsa]

I added a PS there if anyone's interested

Accidentally found two titles to use as examples even, while checking how Japanese might work in those specific cases mentioned

 

[tpcid]

[1]: in Japanese they call it えずき汁 which translated to Ezuki soup/juice/saliva which means Egg juice
This actually erotic, when actor spread and rub it on actress' face and body parts and the dick coated in that.

Ahh, so THAT'S what ezuki means. I've seen it in the titles of some irama films, but never thought to check what it meant. Interesting!

On a related note... I fucking LOVE throat juice. It lubricates just as well as pussyjuice does, and also froths-up nicely after a good pounding too. But it also somehow feels... cleaner — less sticky, and doesn't get all crusty when it dries-up.

You bet I wanna see as much of it gushing over an actress' face as humanly possible.

 

[pervmeister69]

To be honest I did not really understand your several questions, I'm having a hard time understanding what you're really asking.

For example: What's the question about MISM-441? (You attached the cover of that film)
This is not a movie does not have "Deep throat" performence in it at all.

R*** Theme with Deepthroat theme performed in FSBK-008 scene-1 when the actress is kidnapped and confined.
This is a good scene, I like it. Although the ending (ejaculation) is very poorly conducted and the actor is not really push her limits.
But, R*** theme in the Deepthroat genre can be good combination.

I do not mind if the Actress say "please fuck my throat like a pussy" and the actor do it extremely well (as your words: "extreme irrumation")
or the film is "r*** theme" and the actor doing the same by fucking the throat extremely well. The only difference is the "atmosphere" and the "feeling" (the vibes) the film creates.

R*** theme with extreme irrumatio is a little more exciting in my opinion.

Lol. I beg your pardon. When the word consent was used, it initially hit me the wrong way, but yeah I figured out that it was more of an atmosphere/vibes comparison, just like you said.

FSBK-008 > MISM-441

FSBK-008 is definitely superior

R*** theme with extreme irrumatio is a little more exciting in my opinion.

From your lips to god's ears

 

[pervmeister69]

Everyone has their opinion, but I can't help but laugh when I read a irrumatio fan talking about "vomit nonsense".

I suppose that somewhere you'll find a drag racing fan talking about "noise and flames nonsense".

Concerning extreme deep throat films with zero vomit, no doubt they edited accidental vomit scenes to clean it up for the mainstream audience.

Just because vomit is congruent with deep throating, it doesn't mean people are silly for preferring not to see it.

I like steak and hamburgers, but I'm not interested in watching cows get slaughtered.

There are certain things associated with deep throating that's universally appealing, that no one complains about.

A massive bulge moving up and down on a throat.

Tears occasionally streaming down her eye or eyes.

Gagging.

A specifically powerful cough, implying saliva or liquid went down the wrong pipe

Eye contact with an occasional gaze of worry or dread, preferably with a coinciding tear streaming down

extreme duration of oxygen deprivation, preferably demonstrated by servicing multiple cocks in succession without breaks

A genuine throat pie, verified with certain techniques we're all familiar with

Burping.

Constantly on the verge of vomit, without actually vomiting. You know? Her back arches, her tongue suddenly sticks out, and her throat bulges, but no vomit, preferably accompanied with a burp.

What do all of these things have in common? They're eye and ear candy for a sadist.

Believe it or not the sight of vomit is also eye candy for a sadist. But the ones who like it are the minority, not the mainstream.

So why don't we just observe and celebrate the sheer amount of degenerate sadistic preferences that we do have in common, instead of focusing on that one solitary thing that we don't have in common and celebrate our similarities.

And stop wasting time, trying to come up with clever examples of logic on why one should or shouldn't like vomit, and stop trying to convince people.

It's genetic. Your preferences are determined by your genes, not by logic.

I'm in the mainstream, but I don't wig out if there's occasional vomit.

EDIT: Evolution has equipped our brain with instincts to protect ourselves.

We have aversion to poop, because it's associated with disease/ death. The mere smell of it is unpleasant.

We've learned to properly dispose of a deceased person, because it's obviously a biohazard.

Vomit is not quite as dangerous YET, but it's associated with food poisoning, so our instincts go on the alert.

This is why scat and vomit are niche.

The majority of people have biohazard evolutionary alerts that get triggered.

Personally, I can't even begin to form any theory on why scat is even a thing. Where's the sadist element? It's 100% pure downside LOL.

With vomit, I can at least see the logic of being associated with sadistic elements.

But for most people the biohazard alert gets triggered hence rendering vomit a niche genre.

 

[tpcid]

PSA: we just got a double-release of MISM-448 and MISM-449 today.
I've taken a quick look at both, and these are initial impressions:
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448 is an unexpected banger. This is Iori Tachibana's irama debut, but her throat handles the fucking like a pro.
Takes it deep, good suppression of the gag & breathing reflexes, produces an excellent amount of juice with the right consistency.
My only nitpick would be that her neck doesn't exhibit much of a bulge in any of the positions, but that's an anatomy thing, not a skill issue on her part.
Iori herself is very attractive — young, cute-faced, and with just the right amount of fat on her frame to look soft & feminine.

I also appreciate that the title is very pure in terms of the throatfuck focus. A few minutes are wasted on vaginal sex here and there, but they've kept it quite minimal.

My only complaint re. directorial matters is that all the throatpies were delivered in an upright / face-to-face orientation (refer to image below).



I prefer an inverted orientation (eg. 69 / upside-down position) for better alignment of cock & throat, as well as the intimacy of pressing one's body up against their partner. Either way, more variety would have been nice,.
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449 is very relevant to the ongoing discussion these past 2 days — it's a mixed bag unless you really enjoy vomit.

The throatfucking is excellent. Expected, since it's Emma Futaba, whose throat skills have a bulletproof track record. There's also variety in the throatpie delivery, so it doesn't share the criticism I had for 448 above.

Physically, Emma is also looking great! She seems to be getting her weight back under control, and looks more similar to her irama debut days (MISM-325, back in mid-2024), after which she chubbed-up for about 1.5 years or so.

But to address the elephant in the room... the vomit focus in this one is very extreme. They force-feed her ridiculous amounts of various fluids (including bubble tea), pouring it down a bong at some points. Other solids consisted of breadbuns/pastries that they were literally mashing into her face. All of this comes back up. And on multiple occasions... they perform something I will never regard as anything besides utterly disgusting — making her re-consume her own vomit.

So yeah. Great actress, and technically-proficient throatfucking... but I just can't enjoy this one because the vomiting is WAY too hardcore, and has clearly taken-over the spotlight.

 

[tpcid]

As a sidenote... these cover arts involve such unhinged levels of editing that I mistook these two as the same actress.

It's actually Emma in MISM-325 (left) vs. Iori in MISM-448 (right).

 

[pervmeister69]

PSA: we just got a double-release of MISM-448 and MISM-449 today.
I've taken a quick look at both, and these are initial impressions:
___________________________________

448 is an unexpected banger. This is Iori Tachibana's irama debut, but her throat handles the fucking like a pro.
Takes it deep, good suppression of the gag & breathing reflexes, produces an excellent amount of juice with the right consistency.
My only nitpick would be that her neck doesn't exhibit much of a bulge in any of the positions, but that's an anatomy thing, not a skill issue on her part.
Iori herself is very attractive — young, cute-faced, and with just the right amount of fat on her frame to look soft & feminine.

I also appreciate that the title is very pure in terms of the throatfuck focus. A few minutes are wasted on vaginal sex here and there, but they've kept it quite minimal.

My only complaint re. directorial matters is that all the throatpies were delivered in an upright / face-to-face orientation (refer to image below).

View attachment 3820007

I prefer an inverted orientation (eg. 69 / upside-down position) for better alignment of cock & throat, as well as the intimacy of pressing one's body up against their partner. Either way, more variety would have been nice,.
___________________________________

449 is very relevant to the ongoing discussion these past 2 days — it's a mixed bag unless you really enjoy vomit.

The throatfucking is excellent. Expected, since it's Emma Futaba, whose throat skills have a bulletproof track record. There's also variety in the throatpie delivery, so it doesn't share the criticism I had for 448 above.

Physically, Emma is also looking great! She seems to be getting her weight back under control, and looks more similar to her irama debut days (MISM-325, back in mid-2024), after which she chubbed-up for about 1.5 years or so.

But to address the elephant in the room... the vomit focus in this one is very extreme. They force-feed her ridiculous amounts of various fluids (including bubble tea), pouring it down a bong at some points. Other solids consisted of breadbuns/pastries that they were literally mashing into her face. All of this comes back up. And on multiple occasions... they perform something I will never regard as anything besides utterly disgusting — making her re-consume her own vomit.

So yeah. Great actress, and technically-proficient throatfucking... but I just can't enjoy this one because the vomiting is WAY too hardcore, and has clearly taken-over the spotlight.

Apparently, MISM-449 is currently ranked 2 on the weekly top 12, despite the sheer next level vomitorium.

Then again, many people feel this top 12 ranking is either unreliable or corrupt.

I sometimes edit the video to remove all vomit scenes. There's good throating in between the vomit, but the sheer amount of work necessary to edit out all the vomit makes it not worth doing.

I suppose this is the problem of being an irrumatio goat. You feel like you're on top of the mountain, and You don't know where to go.

But all of us here knows exactly where she should go. ANAV 100 men throat pies, that's where she should go. Not to mention let's make it interracial, and for the first time in JAV history have MISM/KIRM/ANAV intensity with interracial.

But that's probably never gonna happen, and I have my theories why. I'll settle for the ANAV 100 men throat pies with pure Japanese men.

 

[tpcid]

Avlabo is transparent about their ranking system. It's purely based on viewcount i.e the number of users that click on the link.
449 is naturally getting lots of views since it has Emma's name attached, and is a new release.

So even if the sequence was something like:
1) click on the avlabo article for MISM-449
2) look up the video
3) get disgusted and GTFO

...everything after step 1 is irrelevant.

It isn't a corrupt system, it's just a poor indicator.

 

[tpcid]

But all of us here knows exactly where she should go. ANAV 100 men throat pies, that's where she should go. Not to mention let's make it interracial, and for the first time in JAV history have MISM/KIRM/ANAV intensity with interracial.

But... Emma has already done an interracial irama? And it was literally an MISM.

MISM-435, specifically, and it was frankly kinda shit — but it has been done.

 

[uoiea25]

PSA: we just got a double-release of MISM-448 and MISM-449 today.
I've taken a quick look at both, and these are initial impressions:
___________________________________

448 is an unexpected banger. This is Iori Tachibana's irama debut, but her throat handles the fucking like a pro.
Takes it deep, good suppression of the gag & breathing reflexes, produces an excellent amount of juice with the right consistency.
My only nitpick would be that her neck doesn't exhibit much of a bulge in any of the positions, but that's an anatomy thing, not a skill issue on her part.
Iori herself is very attractive — young, cute-faced, and with just the right amount of fat on her frame to look soft & feminine.

I also appreciate that the title is very pure in terms of the throatfuck focus. A few minutes are wasted on vaginal sex here and there, but they've kept it quite minimal.

My only complaint re. directorial matters is that all the throatpies were delivered in an upright / face-to-face orientation (refer to image below).

View attachment 3820007

I prefer an inverted orientation (eg. 69 / upside-down position) for better alignment of cock & throat, as well as the intimacy of pressing one's body up against their partner. Either way, more variety would have been nice,.
___________________________________

449 is very relevant to the ongoing discussion these past 2 days — it's a mixed bag unless you really enjoy vomit.

The throatfucking is excellent. Expected, since it's Emma Futaba, whose throat skills have a bulletproof track record. There's also variety in the throatpie delivery, so it doesn't share the criticism I had for 448 above.

Physically, Emma is also looking great! She seems to be getting her weight back under control, and looks more similar to her irama debut days (MISM-325, back in mid-2024), after which she chubbed-up for about 1.5 years or so.

But to address the elephant in the room... the vomit focus in this one is very extreme. They force-feed her ridiculous amounts of various fluids (including bubble tea), pouring it down a bong at some points. Other solids consisted of breadbuns/pastries that they were literally mashing into her face. All of this comes back up. And on multiple occasions... they perform something I will never regard as anything besides utterly disgusting — making her re-consume her own vomit.

So yeah. Great actress, and technically-proficient throatfucking... but I just can't enjoy this one because the vomiting is WAY too hardcore, and has clearly taken-over the spotlight.

Lori Tachibana definitely has exceeded my expectations in her debut irrumatio title. She took the cocks deeply and with intensity. Only minor gripe is with the last gangbang scene - wish it lasted longer with more throatfucking from each of the guys. Glad that MISM-448 focuses on throatfucking without vomiting chunks or the catheter in through the nose nonsense.