Rough/Constant Irrumatio Tribute (and sharing) Thread

That comparison doesn't make sense because noise is necessarily a component of drag racing while vomiting is not necessarily a part of irrumatio. The discussion is not about an essential element of irrumatio, it is a controversial and adjacent fetish.

Since electric motorsports is now a thing and you can find a lot of fans bitching about the lack of ICE noise, we can say that noise and flames is not a part of motorsport...

That sounds absurd, right? Not more than saying that vomit is alien to irrumatio.
 
That comparison doesn't make sense because noise is necessarily a component of drag racing while vomiting is not necessarily a part of irrumatio. The discussion is not about an essential element of irrumatio, it is a controversial and adjacent fetish.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Regardless... the very existence of numerous irama titles that contain zero vomiting is already proof that the 2 are not inseparable.
 
Everyone has their opinion, but I can't help but laugh when I read a irrumatio fan talking about "vomit nonsense".

I suppose that somewhere you'll find a drag racing fan talking about "noise and flames nonsense".

Perhaps I ought to clarify, to ensure what I said didn't get misinterpreted:

Vomiting certainly happens during irama — I don't regard this as an alien occurence. It's natural (& understandable) when a large cock is ramming a girl's throat repeatedly. While it's not my favourite thing in the world to witness... I won't throw a tantrum when it "just happens" during a scene — because I totally get it.

The specific thing I dislike is when vomiting becomes the sole focus of a [portion of a] scene, and the production team goes out of their way to intentionally induce vomiting, in a way that's unrelated to performing a throatfuck. Some examples would be: deliberately triggering the gag reflex using fingers, shoving inanimate objects in, using catheters to siphon out the stomach contents, etc.

There's also the "force-feeding" aspect. No sane actress would knowingly consume a fuckton of thick fluids & chunky foods of their own volition, when they know they're about to do an irama shoot. These are obviously consumed on account of the production, to intentionally generate the grossest puke possible.

The common denominator in these is that vomit becomes the focus & intention of the scene (or at least, that portion of the scene) — while throatfucking takes a backseat. And that's what I actually take issue with.
 
Big pet peeve I’ve got is when they do that milk enema shit in a dedicated throat fucking film. Absolutely no need to feature that kinda thing, I don’t understand how that’s a turn on squirting milk up a woman’s ass and having her fart it out
 
Since electric motorsports is now a thing and you can find a lot of fans bitching about the lack of ICE noise, we can say that noise and flames is not a part of motorsport...

That sounds absurd, right? Not more than saying that vomit is alien to irrumatio.
They're bitching because noise is a normal part of drag racing, which is not like vomit being a normal part of irrumatio. If vomit is your thing so be it but at least understand that it's not strange for some irrumatio fans to not embrace it because it is clearly an adjacent fetish which not everyone shares, which is why it's controversial. No big deal for everyone to have their preference, not every film is for everyone. Vomit is gross and off-putting to me and it seems like at least a few others here share my preference so I don't think it's that uncommon. Most of these vomit titles are obviously specifically focusing on vomit because it is its own fetish, it's not like an unexpected side effect, they are intentionally producing it.
 
Perhaps I ought to clarify, to ensure what I said didn't get misinterpreted:

Vomiting certainly happens during irama — I don't regard this as an alien occurence. It's natural (& understandable) when a large cock is ramming a girl's throat repeatedly. While it's not my favourite thing in the world to witness... I won't throw a tantrum when it "just happens" during a scene — because I totally get it.

The specific thing I dislike is when vomiting becomes the sole focus of a [portion of a] scene, and the production team goes out of their way to intentionally induce vomiting, in a way that's unrelated to performing a throatfuck. Some examples would be: deliberately triggering the gag reflex using fingers, shoving inanimate objects in, using catheters to siphon out the stomach contents, etc.

There's also the "force-feeding" aspect. No sane actress would knowingly consume a fuckton of thick fluids & chunky foods of their own volition, when they know they're about to do an irama shoot. These are obviously consumed on account of the production, to intentionally generate the grossest puke possible.

The common denominator in these is that vomit becomes the focus & intention of the scene (or at least, that portion of the scene) — while throatfucking takes a backseat. And that's what I actually take issue with.
There’s no better way to describe it than how you phrased it.
That’s basically what I wrote, just much less effectively than you, on the Japanese site:
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there is a difference between [1]clear, thick, translucent, sticky, stringy, bubbly like a foam (saliva) and acidic stomach fluids or actually vomiting undigested food.
Saliva is produced in the mouth and throat by the glands—it’s part of the “deep throat” act - a real "lubrication".
In contrast, stomach fluids aren’t produced by the oral cavity; the fluids comes from the stomach, not the throat.
it is result of the gag reflex in the throat, which triggers it, but all the point of "Deepthroat" is to suppress the gag reflex.

So I fully agree with you, and the way you expressed it is perfectly precise.
if it "just happens" then fine, but when it becomes the "thing" to focus on - it is severely damaging the scene(s).


[1]: in Japanese they call it えずき汁 which translated to Ezuki soup/juice/saliva which means Egg juice
This actually erotic, when actor spread and rub it on actress' face and body parts and the dick coated in that.

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Although what I’ve already written is very long, I’m adding a bit more.
There’s also this "Deepthroat" + Urination subgenre. for example in the film MISM-432.
The “deep throat” act is very weak, and the film focuses on urination.
In my opinion, it’s a pretty weak film because the focus on throat–dick interaction is almost nonexistent, and when it does happen, it isn’t done well.


Ultimately, "Deepthroat" films are pretty simple: there is a actor's dick, must be a large one to conduct the act, and a actress’s throat, which needs to be open for this act, The dick needs to penetrate deep into the throat and fuck it along the entire length/depth of the throat.
Anything else in the film is an extra that creates an visual effects on the viewer, whether positive or negative.
 

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Anyone recognize her?

It's kind of a curse to be aware of a title that will never be pirated, lol.


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I'm still not that good at Japanese in general, not to mention dirty talk, but there is a lot of repetition, naturally (meaning that you will hear certain phrases very often). I wouldn't say Japanese is "more exquisite", it's just different. As anthropologists say, "there are no good or bad cultures, just different cultures". And porn is naturally different as well. Again, I don't know enough to give a detailed opinion, but for now, I feel that even the most basic things are different

For example, let's imagine a typical oral JOI in English. The grammar and the vocab that comes to my mind is, first of all: "Let me suck you off", "Your cock is so big", "It's so hard", "Your balls are so full", "Cum down my throat"

Now, Japanese is very close yet interestingly different in most of these cases (i.e. trying to convey the same message):
  • I wouldn't say I hear "suck" (しゃぶる) in actual speech a lot; I hear 舐める, "lick", as in, 舐めてもいいですか? ("Is it OK if I lick it?"); now, of course, it it's a gyaru, she would say something more direct, I bet, but nothing comes to mind
  • The size descriptions might be the closest to English, but still, in Japanese, you don't have to use "It is...", i.e. it's just 大きい! ("Big!"); and I wouldn't say that in Japanese, you even mention "cock" in this specific case; and even if you did, literally, it would be using different grammar (saying あなたのチンポはすごく大きい sounds... very textbook-ish), i.e. you would just hear the keywords, and the rest will be in the intonation: "チンチン、大きい!" I would note as well that I haven't heard a lot of "advanced euphemisms" (like "meat stick", 肉棒) in actual speech (but then again, you don't hear those in English either, unless it's a goon/dirty talk JOI specifically); so, you will see those a lot on JAV covers, but to hear them in speech, you will need to find a JOI or dirty talk JAV (which reminds me of this very prolific series)
  • "It's so hard" is very close, though, again, I feel that in Japanese, you're more likely to use an onomatopoeia here, e.g. ビンビンですね (there is no similar onomatopoeia in English, I think, but it's like "It's stiff-stiff, isn't it?")
  • As for the balls, again, you would hear an onomatopoeia (パンパン), or it would be phrased differently, i.e. いっぱいためてね ("You've saved up a lot, haven't you?")
  • And finally, even though you do hear 出して (literally "let out"), I have never heard 喉の奥に出して in actual AV, though, again, maybe you do hear it in niche JOI titles
So, basically, Japanese just goes about dirty talk differently, on different levels

I missed this reply earlier. Very interesting breakdown, thanks for that!
 
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I added a PS there if anyone's interested

Accidentally found two titles to use as examples even, while checking how Japanese might work in those specific cases mentioned :)
 
[1]: in Japanese they call it えずき汁 which translated to Ezuki soup/juice/saliva which means Egg juice
This actually erotic, when actor spread and rub it on actress' face and body parts and the dick coated in that.

Ahh, so THAT'S what ezuki means. I've seen it in the titles of some irama films, but never thought to check what it meant. Interesting!

On a related note... I fucking LOVE throat juice. It lubricates just as well as pussyjuice does, and also froths-up nicely after a good pounding too. But it also somehow feels... cleaner — less sticky, and doesn't get all crusty when it dries-up.

You bet I wanna see as much of it gushing over an actress' face as humanly possible.