JAV VR: News, comments about releases, recommendations, hardware

[dungeondragon]

From what you tell you are the perfect candidate to get into VR. A world without ugly or noisy guys where YOU are the person who is with the girls, and not someone else. In VR they take great care that the guy is not noisy, and is seen as little as possible. It is inevitable to see a little bit of the hands and legs, but in a few days they become invisible to your brain.

The logical step is to move onto 3D, it seems. Dabbled in gravure briefly, then moved onto 2D JAV - the final destination is 3D.
Yes, I was unsure of whether certain positions would bother me in VR, such as looking down and seeing the male's stomach and legs, but I doubt it will be an issue. Can't get rid of the actor entirely, haha.

I don't know if you have ever tried VR, but there are two very important differences with respect to 2D POV. The first is that you see the girls in 3D, and that makes your brain feel them more real, and more exciting.
But above all, what struck me the most because I didn't expect it, is that you see the girls in real size, and a few centimeters away from you. And that's an incredible rush, you really have the feeling that they are there with you. That they are talking to you and you are making love to them.

Have never tried VR before, no. VR JAV will be my introduction to the platform - very excited.
In 2D JAV there are many positions I dislike. I lean more toward acts like cowgirl as they are high-impact positions that I find arousing - all focus on the woman, unless the guy is moaning loudly. With VR I can already tell that even just the woman being in primary focus, without any high-energy action, is going to be very erotic. It unlocks the full spectrum of stimulation that I perhaps was not getting from traditional porn.

For me the difference is so big that 2D porn no longer appeals to me, I've only been watching VR porn for 3 years now. 2D porn is like the old porn magazines with pictures, they are outdated.

That is the dream, haha. I'm very much a quality over quantity man. My 2D JAV collection has already dwindled to the point where only a few titles remain - that will hold me until I plunge into VR. Looking at what VR offers and what 2D offers is a little jarring - 2D looks archaic now, though still somewhat effective. Been watching 2D for three years - you've been living the high life in the meantime, haha.

The day after tomorrow the Quest 3 will be presented, wait to see what they cost, and when they come out, and you decide. For me VR goggles are the best money I have ever spent on entertainment.

VR definitely has utility. I believe that you use the Samsung Odyssey Plus - discontinued, so would have to scour the used market. Not picky - whichever I can get my hands on, whichever has the lowest barrier to entry. Will most likely be the Quest. Lead a frugal lifestyle, so the purchase will not be rash.

What are the VR titles do you have?

Now 11 titles:

DSVR-031 - Akari Mitani
DSVR-1181 - Koume Ena, Himesaki Hana, Yuki Rino, Hayami Io, Nosaki Mio, Kashiwagi Konatsu
DSVR-1183 - Eikawa Noa, Akemi Kou, Otogoto Rui
DSVR-1263 - Ranran, Mao Kurata
KAVR-290 - Kururigi Aoi, Matsumoto Ichika, Itou Meru, Sano Natsu
MDVR-093 - Shinoda Yu, Jin Yuki, Kobayakawa Reiko, Hasumi Kurea
NHVR-042 - Hasumi Kurea, Konishi Marie, Sakura An
NHVR-197 - Igarashi Seiran, Alice Otsu
VRKM-927 - Toujou Natsu, Morinichi Hinako, Satou Nonoka, Arai Rima, Kisaragi Yuno
WAVR-187 - Shinoda Yu, Kurea Hasumi
WAVR-231 - Tamaki Kurumi, Kawahara Kanae

Was going to attach the cover images for each, but would have made the post unnecessarily long. I lean more toward videos with 2 or more performers, barring the first with Akari Mitani. I'm fond of round rumps and spirited performers, so these are the titles I have curated thus far. There were many other titles that had at least one desirable scene, though as I prefer a complete package I ended up removing them.

Once accustomed to the experience I may delve into videos with just one performer. The intimate nature may be stimulating enough, to the point where I no longer always need high-octane action - most performers tend to lean toward softer performances after all.

There are some performers that I hope will have a VR release in the future, such as MINAMO from SOD (though she has fake boobs so may not be your cup of tea, haha - I generally prefer real boobs, though not fussy unless they look horrendous).

 

[Walle12]

Have never tried VR before, no. VR JAV will be my introduction to the platform - very excited.
In 2D JAV there are many positions I dislike. I lean more toward acts like cowgirl as they are high-impact positions that I find arousing - all focus on the woman, unless the guy is moaning loudly

If you haven't tried virtual reality, then your head will explode..... Seeing the girls life-size and in 3D, just a few centimeters away from you, changes everything. You can move your head inside the video and look where you want, it's not a fixed camera. Your brain feels them next to you, it changes the perception of sex completely. It's much more exciting than watching a flat screen movie with girls the size of a few centimeters.

There are people, and I'm serious, who feel guilty when watching VR porn, because it feels like they are cheating on their partner, because it feels so real. We have discussed it in this thread,

And this happens to a lot of people, when the girl kisses you and start to talk at the same time, it's so real that sometimes your brain feels like she's breathing on your face. You really feel the breath. It's an incredible thing.

About the glasses, yes, I have an old Oddysey Plus glasses, which are no longer sold. I prefer PC glasses because you can add all the supersampling you want to improve the definition, depending on the power of the graphics card. It looks a little sharper than with the Quest 2. But it's true that for porn the Quest are more comfortable, because they don't have cables.

The Quest 3 will be announced on June 1st, but it seems that they will be a bit more expensive than the Quest 2, although smaller and with better image quality. The Quest 2s are good to start with, and when the Quest 3s are released, you will see a lot of cheap second hand Quest 2s.

There are some good titles on that list you posted. I see you like trios and harems. I'm more of a single girl. So many people together is distracting....

I hope you can buy some glasses soon, and tell us about your experience.

 

[Saren]

If anyone wants to up the experience after VR the next step would be a automated sex toy like the Handy. There are a few sites where people create "scripts" for certain videos that imitate the actions of the actress for a truly hands free experience. It's pretty crazy tech. There are also a lot of experiments with pass through using vr headsets to let you see your surroundings. Think about it like you are in your bedroom or living room but the actress is also there, I have a Quest 2 so its just black and white but Quest 3 will be able to do color. Pretty exciting things coming to VR.

 

[Walle12]

Yes, the Handy and other toys add another layer of even more realistic experience. I have the Lovense Max 2 and the best thing is the vibration. And what you say, that it's not your hand....

The passthrough personally I don't like it, I don't like to watch my boring bedroom or living room with a pornstar on top of it, for me it's not realistic because I know that's not true. Plus it forces you to use very specific angles so that the girl's perspective matches the perspective you are looking at. I prefer VR, not augmented reality. But it's true that it's becoming very successful.

 

[dungeondragon]

If you haven't tried virtual reality, then your head will explode..... Seeing the girls life-size and in 3D, just a few centimeters away from you, changes everything. You can move your head inside the video and look where you want, it's not a fixed camera. Your brain feels them next to you, it changes the perception of sex completely. It's much more exciting than watching a flat screen movie with girls the size of a few centimeters.

And this happens to a lot of people, when the girl kisses you and start to talk at the same time, it's so real that sometimes your brain feels like she's breathing on your face. You really feel the breath. It's an incredible thing.

Yes! That is what I desire, haha. I have a vague idea of what VR may feel like, but I'm still having a little trouble truly visualising the experience. The girls are still relatively distant when watching the VR video without a headset - to think that they'll be so very close to me makes my heart beat just that much faster. I have no qualms leaving behind 2D for good - VR releases aren't as frequent (I believe a stat in this thread was something like 2,000 releases a year compared to <10,000 releases for regular JAV. Quality over quantity, however. Not as overwhelming). Have you completely left the world of 2D?

There are people, and I'm serious, who feel guilty when watching VR porn, because it feels like they are cheating on their partner, because it feels so real. We have discussed it in this thread,

I went through the thread a week ago which is where I found a couple titles to start off with. I'll have to go back to read it more in-depth. It's really that immersive? Haha! Incredible. Ooh, I can imagine the issues that could arise with a partner. 2D porn is one thing - 3D is a step that most do not take; very personal, intimate.

About the glasses, yes, I have an old Oddysey Plus glasses, which are no longer sold. I prefer PC glasses because you can add all the supersampling you want to improve the definition, depending on the power of the graphics card. It looks a little sharper than with the Quest 2. But it's true that for porn the Quest are more comfortable, because they don't have cables.

Seeing as my laptop is not the most powerful (i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz, 16GB Ram, Intel Iris XE) and many VR videos I have played have noticeable frame lag, it would be best to get a Quest and take advantage of the device's large storage (the larger the better) and use it wirelessly. That is my understanding, at this point in time. The Oculus does have the option of wires though - I assume you can use it both tethered and wireless if you wish? I'll do further research. If just wireless, I assume that the power of the device is more than enough to run the videos smoothly.

The Quest 3 will be announced on June 1st, but it seems that they will be a bit more expensive than the Quest 2, although smaller and with better image quality. The Quest 2s are good to start with, and when the Quest 3s are released, you will see a lot of cheap second hand Quest 2s.

The compact form factor is appealing with the 3rd iteration. Also uses pancake lenses, though still unfamiliar with the tech in VR. Either 2 or 3 - I won't be upset either way. Whichever I can get my hands on.

There are some good titles on that list you posted. I see you like trios and harems. I'm more of a single girl. So many people together is distracting....

I'm expecting it to be rather overwhelming . I will start of with harems (with a particular cast) and see how things develop.

I hope you can buy some glasses soon, and tell us about your experience.

I am here to stay. I've lurked for long enough.

 

[Walle12]

Yes! That is what I desire, haha. I have a vague idea of what VR may feel like, but I'm still having a little trouble truly visualising the experience. The girls are still relatively distant when watching the VR video without a headset - to think that they'll be so very close to me makes my heart beat just that much faster.

That happened to me, I had seen VR on a flat screen and thought that with glasses it would be the same, but with some screens on the eyes. But it's completely different. As I say, what left me in shock is to see the girls in real size, and much closer than what you see in VR videos on a flat screen.

It's the same distance as in real life, when you're with a girl. If she's kissing you, she's right next to you, or in a face-to-face scene like a cowgirl or a missionary, she's inches away from you... This is something impossible to experience on a 2D screen.

It's really that immersive? Haha! Incredible. Ooh, I can imagine the issues that could arise with a partner.

Well, I think the comments are a bit of a joke, because it's still a fantasy with a video. Very real, but a fantasy. But sometimes you think about it, because you are watching a scene in the missionary position with the girl looking you in the eyes and you have her in front of you a few centimeters away, life-size and in 3D, you feel her so real, that it does seem that you are cheating on your partner....

On a personal level, it has changed my relationship with the actresses. Before VR I didn't know the name of any of them, they were just girls who do porn. But in VR they talk to you, they caress you, they kiss you, and you start to see them as real people. You want to know what their names are because you care about them. And, this is true, it also happens to more people and we've discussed it here, you feel a bit of jealousy and discomfort when you see them in other 2D movies with other guys...

I haven't watched some 2D movies with some of my favorite actresses because it makes me angry to see them with another guy instead of with me in VR, that's 100% true....

Seeing as my laptop is not the most powerful (i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz, 16GB Ram, Intel Iris XE) and many VR videos

Yes, it is not powerful enough to add supersampling to a 4K or 8K video. You should use the Quest or Pico 4. They have less sharpness than PC VR with supersampling, but it is OK.

The compact form factor is appealing with the 3rd iteration. Also uses pancake lenses, though still unfamiliar with the tech in VR. Either 2 or 3 - I won't be upset either way. Whichever I can get my hands on.

Quest 3 will be smaller, that's a plus. Pancake lenses do not affect video, only 3D gaming. But they will have more screen resolution. They will be better than Quest 2, but also more expensive. Video only, you may be better off with Quest 2, depending on the price difference.

You can use cable or wireless mode but that's only when you connect them to a PC. To watch movies in VR they work with the processor and memory of the glasses themselves, no cable is needed.

 

[dungeondragon]

That happened to me, I had seen VR on a flat screen and thought that with glasses it would be the same, but with some screens on the eyes. But it's completely different. As I say, what left me in shock is to see the girls in real size, and much closer than what you see in VR videos on a flat screen.

It's the same distance as in real life, when you're with a girl. If she's kissing you, she's right next to you, or in a face-to-face scene like a cowgirl or a missionary, she's inches away from you... This is something impossible to experience on a 2D screen.

This will definitely allow me to explore more vanilla scenes that didn't do much for me in 2D. Fantastic. My collection will surely increase once I have experience.

Well, I think the comments are a bit of a joke, because it's still a fantasy with a video. Very real, but a fantasy. But sometimes you think about it, because you are watching a scene in the missionary position with the girl looking you in the eyes and you have her in front of you a few centimeters away, life-size and in 3D, you feel her so real, that it does seem that you are cheating on your partner....

On a personal level, it has changed my relationship with the actresses. Before VR I didn't know the name of any of them, they were just girls who do porn. But in VR they talk to you, they caress you, they kiss you, and you start to see them as real people. You want to know what their names are because you care about them. And, this is true, it also happens to more people and we've discussed it here, you feel a bit of jealousy and discomfort when you see them in other 2D movies with other guys...

I haven't watched some 2D movies with some of my favorite actresses because it makes me angry to see them with another guy instead of with me in VR, that's 100% true....

Haha. I definitely have a couple favourites - did feel a little jealous when they'd perform with a certain Japanese actor. Want them all for myself!
Knowing their names is definitely a step in the direction to enjoying the medium more I'd say. Prefer to have an "active" involvement in this hobby, as opposed to just using whatever material I come across. Curation.

Yes, it is not poweful enough. You should use the Quest or Pico 4.

As I suspected. Good to know.

Quest 3 will be smaller, that's a plus. Pancake lenses do not affect video, only 3D gaming. But they will have more screen resolution. They will be better than Quest 2, but also more expensive. Video only, you may be better off with Quest 2, depending on the price difference.

You can use cable or wireless mode but that's only when you connect them to a PC. To watch movies in VR they work with the processor and memory of the glasses themselves, no cable is needed.

Got it. The Quest 2 has max 256GB - the Quest 3 (speculated) 256GB-512GB. My laptop has enough storage, so I can swap out videos whenever I desire. No issue. I will always prefer the economical option, and am conscious of ROI. If the improvements for the Quest 3 are marginal compared to the price, I'll opt for the 2. Raring to go.

 

[tim-o-tea]

The Quest 3 will be announced on June 1st, but it seems that they will be a bit more expensive than the Quest 2, although smaller and with better image quality. The Quest 2s are good to start with, and when the Quest 3s are released, you will see a lot of cheap second hand Quest 2s.

I am not sure if they will announce the Quest 3, as its just Metas Gaming Showcase. They might teaser it though.

Seeing as my laptop is not the most powerful (i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz, 16GB Ram, Intel Iris XE) and many VR videos I have played have noticeable frame lag, it would be best to get a Quest and take advantage of the device's large storage (the larger the better) and use it wirelessly. That is my understanding, at this point in time. The Oculus does have the option of wires though - I assume you can use it both tethered and wireless if you wish? I'll do further research. If just wireless, I assume that the power of the device is more than enough to run the videos smoothly.

With the Quest devices using a player on the device is the way to go as streaming from the PC (whether wireless or wired) does have compression.
The XR2 chip from the Quest2 is powerful enough to play 8k videos without any problems, the chip from the Quest 3 is supposed to be even faster.

When you get a Quest2/3 you should definitely look into HereSphere (https://heresphere.itch.io/heresphere-vr-video-player-quest-2). Its mentioned a couple of times in this thread and this player does enhance immersion a lot.

Got it. The Quest 2 has max 256GB - the Quest 3 (speculated) 256GB-512GB. My laptop has enough storage, so I can swap out videos whenever I desire. No issue. I will always prefer the economical option, and am conscious of ROI. If the improvements for the Quest 3 are marginal compared to the price, I'll opt for the 2. Raring to go.

Actually my suggestion would be to go with the cheapest (smallest storage) model. While it may sound like a good idea to play the files directly from the device, most people don't do that for two reasons:
1)VR videos are huge and transfering (at least to the Quest 2) does take a lot of time, the internal memory is not really fast.
2)Even the storage of the bigger models is filled up really quickly as VR videos are very large in size (also most people do have at least some games installed)

What most people do is to stream (your files) from your computer (or even better from your NAS if you have one). Its much faster, easy to set up (Samba network shares or DLNA) and does have some nice medialibrary options like XBVR for the advanced users with a lot of movies.

That way the only limitation is the hard drive of your computer (you could easily expand that with a cheap external drive).

I'm expecting it to be rather overwhelming . I will start of with harems (with a particular cast) and see how things develop.

VR porn is a great experience for sure and especially JAV VR is so much ahead compared to western VR porn, but unfortunately the relatively low resolution is an issue. You might think that 4k is more than sharp enough, but keep in mind that you are watching the video with the display only centimeters in front of your eyes, to the image will a lot less sharp than what you see on your computer screen. So many times I was excited with a video and it looked great on the computer, but when watching it on the VR headset the image quality destroyed that experience (unfortunately NHVR often got terrible visual quality).

FANZA has been teasering an 8k video which is a big improvement but no release so far (reasons for that still unknown).

I think one major difference between 2D and 3D is that, because it will feel so much more realistic that you will be much more petty in terms of image quality, lightning, colors etc.

In 2D the experience is basically the same whether you watch it on a cheap monitor or an expensive 4k screen. I never even bothered adjusting any colors.

In 3D JAV its different because it actually makes your brain think you are really there (and thats what gives you this unique experience). The downside is that everything that takes you "out" of this simulation with affect your experience.

I.e. the Pico 4 is a nice headset but it does not support 60hz or 120Hz and therefore you have some kind of microstutter which does really affect immersion. Quest 3 is supposed to support 120hz, otherwise it would be a dealbreaker for me.

Another, simple, immersion breaker would be the audio. If you watch a video and you are not using headphones and hear noices from your neighbourhood it could break immersion, so good headphones ideally with some kind of noice cancelling are really recommended.

This list could go on and on, ultimate goal is to have as least "immersion breakers" as possible.

Quest 3 will be smaller, that's a plus. Pancake lenses do not affect video, only 3D gaming. But they will have more screen resolution. They will be better than Quest 2, but also more expensive. Video only, you may be better off with Quest 2, depending on the price difference.

I disagree on the statement that Pancake lenses do not have any effect on VR video.
My daily driver is the Quest2 and i was able to test the Pico4 and the Quest Pro (both headsets have pancake lenses).
Sweetspot and image clarity are much better and the perceived FOV is higher as your face is closer to the lenses. Unfortunately the Pico 4 has some other drawbacks (smear effect and light leaking). Dealbreaker right now for me is the lack of 120hz or 60Hz support. I hope Meta will be able to have that in the Quest 3, otherwise there will always be some kind of microstutter.

 

[Walle12]

Sweetspot and image clarity are much better and the perceived FOV is higher as your face is closer to the lenses

Well, I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that they are pancake lenses, but rather that they are better lenses... The FOV does improve, but Quest 2 has little FOV, my old Odyssey Plus glasses have more FOV than Quest 2 and Pico 4, and they are not Pancake.

I honestly don't think Pancake affects the video much, but it does affect 3D apps and games in terms of light leakage and so on.

but unfortunately the relatively low resolution is an issue

That's why I use PC VR. The standard resolution of Quest 2 is what it is. But on PC with the power of a good graphic card you can apply supersampling to the video by 200 or 300%., and the definition is much improved. I am happy how I watch movies in VR, the definition I get is very good, even in JAV VR.

Of course, there are studios that have bad image quality, as you said.

 

[dungeondragon]

With the Quest devices using a player on the device is the way to go as streaming from the PC (whether wireless or wired) does have compression.
The XR2 chip from the Quest2 is powerful enough to play 8k videos without any problems, the chip from the Quest 3 is supposed to be even faster.

When you get a Quest2/3 you should definitely look into HereSphere (https://heresphere.itch.io/heresphere-vr-video-player-quest-2). Its mentioned a couple of times in this thread and this player does enhance immersion a lot.

Thanks for the recommendation. I will keep it in mind when I eventually purchase the device.

Actually my suggestion would be to go with the cheapest (smallest storage) model. While it may sound like a good idea to play the files directly from the device, most people don't do that for two reasons:
1)VR videos are huge and transfering (at least to the Quest 2) does take a lot of time, the internal memory is not really fast.
2)Even the storage of the bigger models is filled up really quickly as VR videos are very large in size (also most people do have at least some games installed)

What most people do is to stream (your files) from your computer (or even better from your NAS if you have one). Its much faster, easy to set up (Samba network shares or DLNA) and does have some nice medialibrary options like XBVR for the advanced users with a lot of movies.

That way the only limitation is the hard drive of your computer (you could easily expand that with a cheap external drive).

I have seen NAS mentioned here and there. Hm... I am a very simple individual - playing the files directly from the device is more up my alley, though I do acknowledge the lacking storage capacity and slow transfer speeds. I currently have 11 full VR videos - 238GB. My previous collection of 2D JAV was around 200GB for a little over 30 videos. Streaming from NAS does remove this limitation, but I'm just very lazy, haha. The simpler, the better. Though expensive, I'd much rather have a powerful laptop/pc and use a tethered PC vr instead. That is the end goal for me. The Quest will be my introduction to this world. A part of me wishes to wait and save up for a powerful enough rig, but I cannot bring myself to wait.

VR porn is a great experience for sure and especially JAV VR is so much ahead compared to western VR porn, but unfortunately the relatively low resolution is an issue. You might think that 4k is more than sharp enough, but keep in mind that you are watching the video with the display only centimeters in front of your eyes, to the image will a lot less sharp than what you see on your computer screen. So many times I was excited with a video and it looked great on the computer, but when watching it on the VR headset the image quality destroyed that experience (unfortunately NHVR often got terrible visual quality).

FANZA has been teasering an 8k video which is a big improvement but no release so far (reasons for that still unknown).

I think one major difference between 2D and 3D is that, because it will feel so much more realistic that you will be much more petty in terms of image quality, lightning, colors etc.

In 2D the experience is basically the same whether you watch it on a cheap monitor or an expensive 4k screen. I never even bothered adjusting any colors.

In 3D JAV its different because it actually makes your brain think you are really there (and thats what gives you this unique experience). The downside is that everything that takes you "out" of this simulation with affect your experience.

I.e. the Pico 4 is a nice headset but it does not support 60hz or 120Hz and therefore you have some kind of microstutter which does really affect immersion. Quest 3 is supposed to support 120hz, otherwise it would be a dealbreaker for me.

Another, simple, immersion breaker would be the audio. If you watch a video and you are not using headphones and hear noices from your neighbourhood it could break immersion, so good headphones ideally with some kind of noice cancelling are really recommended.

This list could go on and on, ultimate goal is to have as least "immersion breakers" as possible.

Yes, the relatively poor resolution compared to Western material is a sentiment I have seen throughout this VR thread. It is something I have deliberated on. Have a number of nitpicks with 2D JAV - I'm sure 3D comes with its own unique quirks. I have two videos from NHVR that I am looking forward to viewing, one older and one newer - hope I am not let down.

Having briefly peeked into the audiophile world, I have an appreciation for choosing the most suitable headphone for the occasion. I prefer wired headphones, though the ones I have my eye on are reported to be decent for sound cancelling, without having any ANC tech. Good to keep in mind. I'll amend my setup to maximise immersion when the time comes.

 

[Walle12]

VR titles tend to be clones of each other, so here are two different titles:

For the fans of orgies, URVRSP-235, out june 20:








A pity there are more men....




For the lesbian fans (me):

NHVR-204, out june 6

 

[tim-o-tea]

8K is finally here!!!

Today a couple of 8k movies have been released on FANZA. I expect them to soon be released as DRM-free downloads
Todays releases are from 4 different studios. While Moody (MDVR) and Ideapocket (IPVR) should be known to most people. AQUST (aqua) is lesser known and imho Image quality wasnt really good, but maybe their 8k videos are better.
There is also a new studio called RESOREVO 8KVR (rsrvr) which i havent heard of before but the directors and the cast looks really good.

aqust00001

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=aqust00001/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=13

aqust00002

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=aqust00002/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=14

rsrvr00001

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00001/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=7

rsrvr00002

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00002/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=8

rsrvr00003

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00003/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=9

rsrvr00004

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00004/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=10

rsrvr00006

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00006/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=11

rsrvr00008

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00008/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=12

IPVR-206

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ipvr00206/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=4

IPVR-208

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ipvr00208/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=5

IPVR-210

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ipvr00210/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=6

MDVR-239

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mdvr00239/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=1

MDVR-240

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mdvr00240/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=2

MDVR-241

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mdvr00241/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=3

 

[tim-o-tea]

Well, I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that they are pancake lenses, but rather that they are better lenses... The FOV does improve, but Quest 2 has little FOV, my old Odyssey Plus glasses have more FOV than Quest 2 and Pico 4, and they are not Pancake.

I honestly don't think Pancake affects the video much, but it does affect 3D apps and games in terms of light leakage and so on.

That's why I use PC VR. The standard resolution of Quest 2 is what it is. But on PC with the power of a good graphic card you can apply supersampling to the video by 200 or 300%., and the definition is much improved. I am happy how I watch movies in VR, the definition I get is very good, even in JAV VR.

Of course, there are studios that have bad image quality, as you said.

I didnt mean that pancake lenses have a bigger FOV (actually the opposite is true) but the perceived FOV is higher because of the shorter distance to the lens. But thats compared to the Quest 2.

Odyssey+ does have a very good FOV, especially the vertical FOV is among the best.

Pancake lenses are clear lenses (think of using a regular glass) while fresnel lenses have these rings that always give some kind of blurry/milky image. But not all is better, you will have other problems (smearing and light leaking).

Having full clarity of the image would be beneficial for videos as well, but right now it seems that pancake lenses need much more light so Quest Pro and Pico 4 does not support 120Hz, which is a dealbreaker to me.

I advise you to try out the Pico 4 (they have it in a lot of electronic stores to try out in my country).

Your experience may differ but i think i have a good experience to compare (having watched JAV on Oculus Go, Oculus Quest 2, Samsung Odyssey+, HP Reverb G1, Meta Quest Pro (pancake), Pico 4 (pancake))

As for Sharpening: Heresphere for Quest 2 made a lot of progress implementing sharpening in the native Quest player. It does improve the image quality a lot, but currently we are reaching a point where CPU power of the Quest2 is noticable, so its good that Quest 3 with a lot more power is coming soon, although i think for 8k videos, not a lot of sharpening is required for having a good image quality.

Thanks for the recommendation. I will keep it in mind when I eventually purchase the device.


I have seen NAS mentioned here and there. Hm... I am a very simple individual - playing the files directly from the device is more up my alley, though I do acknowledge the lacking storage capacity and slow transfer speeds. I currently have 11 full VR videos - 238GB. My previous collection of 2D JAV was around 200GB for a little over 30 videos. Streaming from NAS does remove this limitation, but I'm just very lazy, haha. The simpler, the better. Though expensive, I'd much rather have a powerful laptop/pc and use a tethered PC vr instead. That is the end goal for me. The Quest will be my introduction to this world. A part of me wishes to wait and save up for a powerful enough rig, but I cannot bring myself to wait.


Yes, the relatively poor resolution compared to Western material is a sentiment I have seen throughout this VR thread. It is something I have deliberated on. Have a number of nitpicks with 2D JAV - I'm sure 3D comes with its own unique quirks. I have two videos from NHVR that I am looking forward to viewing, one older and one newer - hope I am not let down.

Having briefly peeked into the audiophile world, I have an appreciation for choosing the most suitable headphone for the occasion. I prefer wired headphones, though the ones I have my eye on are reported to be decent for sound cancelling, without having any ANC tech. Good to keep in mind. I'll amend my setup to maximise immersion when the time comes.

You dont really have to set up a NAS, especially with just having a few videos. Setting up a network share on your computer would not take longer than 5min and is supported by most players. guide i.e. here https://pureinfotech.com/setup-network-file-sharing-windows-10/
Having a NAS would only make sense if you are having a really big library and want to use media library setup to easier browse your content (currently my XBVR has around 1500~ VR movies and around 30TB, it does really gets difficult to find a movie otherwise )

If you just want to play videos having a powerful setup is actually not necessary as all Geforce 2xxx/3xxx are able to play 8k videos without any issues, as they do have the same video encoder. Quest 2 also has a chip specially designed for playing 8k content (Qualcomm XR2). I did use supersampling on my Odyssey+ as well back then, and wasnt really impressed (differs from Walle12's experience)

The Problem with tethered VR is that its mostly a dying market as most companies go for standalone VR. The only positive side is that you could get large FOV headsets like Pimax (but they do require a lot of tweaking and are quite expensive). Most other, more affordable, VR headsets are either discontinued like the Odyssey+ or not really much better than the Quest2, such as the Reverb G2.

So my advice for you would be, as you are not in a hurry and concious about spending to much:
Wait till fall for the Quest 3 release and get a new/used Quest 2 at that time, and as i said if would save the 100$/euros price difference and go for the small model as for that kind of money you could easily get another 5TB harddrive, because once you are hooked you want more content, and especially given 8k videos, you would need a lot of storage space.
Getting a device with larger storage would only make sense to me if you want to use it a lot when travelling.

 

[Walle12]

8K is finally here!!!

Today a couple of 8k movies have been released on FANZA. I expect them to soon be released as DRM-free downloads
Todays releases are from 4 different studios. While Moody (MDVR) and Ideapocket (IPVR) should be known to most people. AQUST (aqua) is lesser known and imho Image quality wasnt really good, but maybe their 8k videos are better.
There is also a new studio called RESOREVO 8KVR (rsrvr) which i havent heard of before but the directors and the cast looks really good.

aqust00001

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=aqust00001/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=13

aqust00002

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=aqust00002/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=14

rsrvr00001

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00001/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=7

rsrvr00002

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00002/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=8

rsrvr00003

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00003/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=9

rsrvr00004

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00004/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=10

rsrvr00006

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00006/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=11

rsrvr00008

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00008/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=12

IPVR-206

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ipvr00206/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=4

IPVR-208

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ipvr00208/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=5

IPVR-210

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=ipvr00210/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=6

MDVR-239

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mdvr00239/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=1

MDVR-240

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mdvr00240/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=2

MDVR-241

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mdvr00241/?i3_ref=list&i3_ord=3

OMG!!!! WOW !!! WOW!!!!! This is a 8K invasion!!!!!!

I wasn't expecting this, I thought they would release a single title from time to time. This is the best news in VR in years....


The tragedy is that you can't buy them outside of Japan, I'd buy most of them. Fanza should open a whole new store in the West with only selected content like this. I think They would make money.

I hope we can get them DRM-free in 8K, but I have little hope....

EDIT: Another big news within the big news of 8K releases is the return of Moodz, which had not released a VR in 5 months. I've really missed their exclusive girls, and in these new 8K releases we have three...

 

[tim-o-tea]

I just noticed that for 8k videos Fanza has a new filter section here

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/list/=/article=keyword/device=vr/id=307935/limit=120/sort=date/

I forgot to include two videos, that for some reason were released already a month ago (seems to be somehow under the radar?), so that brings total number of videos to 16.

rsrvr00005

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00005/?dmmref=keyword_307935&i3_ref=list&i3_ord=15

and

rsrvr00026

https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=rsrvr00026/?dmmref=keyword_307935&i3_ref=list&i3_ord=16

Unfortunately FANZA has this DRM, but i really hope other good studios like SOD will produce 8k as well, so i would gladly purchase their videos.

As for DRM-free videos we would have to stick to fileshared content i guess (the 8k videos are already on torrent so i expect them to be available on other plattforms really soon)


Also i really hope that all videos are in 60fps and not some crappy 30fps. From the cover image i could only tell for Moodyz (MDVR) that they are 60fps. But i hope for the best, at least for IPVR i am certain too as they produced the promo video which was in 60fps was well

 

[Walle12]

It's a shame we can't buy them, I'd like to support them. I just hope the Japanese buy them, and keep releasing more titles in 8K.

Fanza, please, open a western store again...

 

[tim-o-tea]

It's a shame we can't buy them, I'd like to support them. I just hope the Japanese buy them, and keep releasing more titles in 8K.

Fanza, please, open a western store again...

Yes unfortunately i dont have high hopes. Closure of r18.com was the nail in the coffin for selling to western markets (thanks to the credit card companies and their compliance policies.)

KMPVR also teasered that there will be a 8k release soon I think there wont be a lack of content for quite some time

https:// twitter.com/KMP_miyasako/status/1663843650760237056

 

[Walle12]

I don't like most of the KMPVR titles (too much clothes, boring, slow sex, they are all clones), but it is good they release 8K titles. At least we could buy them DRM-free at A Festa. I hope SODVR does the same.

 

[tim-o-tea]

I don't like most of the KMPVR titles (too much clothes, boring, slow sex, they are all clones), but it is good they release 8K titles. At least we could buy them DRM-free at A Festa. I hope SODVR does the same.

Yes i agree with KMPVR, although from a visual standpoint their image quality is always pretty good. At this point i am happy with every studio releasing in 8k.
I hope japanese customers will try it instead of worrying that they need an 8k display to benefit from the higher resolution. Right now there are some debates that the Quest 2 only has a 4k display. Obviously they are missing the point that the viewport (that area that is currently watched in the headset) is never the full video, so off course 8k looks better on the Quest 2. I guess that even on the Odyssey+ (which has a even lower resolution) the difference is noticable.

I would be very much suprised if SOD would miss out on 8k as DMM/Outvision is their main competitor and they would loose a lot of sales if they would not release 8k content.

 

[Walle12]

Yes the image quality of KMPVR is the best of this studio.

As you say, VR users need to learn than you obtain much better image quality with a 8K video, even if your glasses are 4K or less. And yes, on my Odyssey Plus I notice a huge difference in sharpness between a 4K video and an 8K video from sites like SLR, even more with supersampling. So I'm looking forward to seeing some of these 8K releases.

I want to trade my old Odyssey's for the HP Reverb G2, but they're still a bit pricey.