Another 8K title... 
MDVR-242. With the wonderful Ishikawa Mio...
MDVR-242. With the wonderful Ishikawa Mio...
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JAV VR: News, comments about releases, recommendations, hardware
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For me its two aspects:
For once 3D videos (no matter how high the resolution) will always be or at least feel less sharp than a 2d video (i read an article about that once, but cannot find it at the moment. it has something to do with the two images never perfectly align). Current videos are pretty good, but if you compare to a 2d video in 1080p or higher it is sharper.
The second aspect is sharpness especially things further away from the camera. When i watch a scene, i like to tune it with the setting. Especially for 4k JAV you can clearly see that the background (walls, furtniture) is far from being sharp and showing details. Even with CzechVR's 8k video the background is not crystal clear to me. I watched a sample video from that FXG 12k camera and that being said starting from that resolution it gets a lot better (so i guess it needs 12k/16k that i would be satisfied with the overall resolution
). Luckily JAV is mostly being filmed close to the camera, so the overall sharpness of most relevant things is good, although when performers are to far from the camera (much more prevalent in western VR) it clearly isnt really sharp. I've tried many different things regarding sharpness (using supersampling, sharpening in the players, AI upscaling with Topaz) but for me its the details that are missing, so resolution is something that would help in there. I am very excited for the new 8k JAV and i guess the issue is reduced a lot. But well maybe its complaining on a very high level.
I'm glad your perception of the current videos is good so far, i wish i could feel the same.
This divide in opinions is intriguing. I wonder what the general sentiment of VR JAV consumers is, seeing as most online (a miniscule community of VR fans) are very analytical, tending to pick apart each detail (guilty of that myself). It seems that a good number are content with the current state of VR, even using the lesser variant of mobile phone VR, whereas others yearn for a continued advancement of industry standards.
The average person, I'd wager, doesn't focus much on clarity or the more technical side of things, but rather is satisfied with the product as is. I see nothing wrong with either approach. Guess it depends on your interests and what you wish to derive from this medium. Great to be along for the ride regardless.
The average person, I'd wager, doesn't focus much on clarity or the more technical side of things, but rather is satisfied with the product as is. I see nothing wrong with either approach. Guess it depends on your interests and what you wish to derive from this medium. Great to be along for the ride regardless.
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was able to try some of the 8k videos:
the jump in resolution is clearly visible and much improved from the 4k videos. I am happy to see this resolution (hopefully) becoming the new standard, as finally even action further away from the camera (such as a BJ in a normal position) is quite clearly visible.
On the downside you can clearly see that this is a different camera. While clarity is good, colors and skin do look flat somehow. I think i need to get used to it and/or need to adjust my Heresphere color profiles for these 8k videos. Its something i noticed already in that free sample video from last year.
In some japanese blogs it has been mentioned that too much detail could also have a negative effect and i think i understand that now. The image is more clear, so skin irritations are more visible. That little blurryness in 4k is a lot more forgiving in that matter.
I also get the feeling that producers are not yet so confident with that camera as there werent too many scenes closer to the camera (this is where its easy to mess up). But i guess by the time they will get much better and more confident.
While i didnt notice a difference to the Sample scene from last year, it is quite shocking that in some videos average bitrate goes down to 10-15 Mbit. While H265 is a different codec than h264 in the 4k videos, i dont get it why they have to go that low.
the jump in resolution is clearly visible and much improved from the 4k videos. I am happy to see this resolution (hopefully) becoming the new standard, as finally even action further away from the camera (such as a BJ in a normal position) is quite clearly visible.
On the downside you can clearly see that this is a different camera. While clarity is good, colors and skin do look flat somehow. I think i need to get used to it and/or need to adjust my Heresphere color profiles for these 8k videos. Its something i noticed already in that free sample video from last year.
In some japanese blogs it has been mentioned that too much detail could also have a negative effect and i think i understand that now. The image is more clear, so skin irritations are more visible. That little blurryness in 4k is a lot more forgiving in that matter.
I also get the feeling that producers are not yet so confident with that camera as there werent too many scenes closer to the camera (this is where its easy to mess up). But i guess by the time they will get much better and more confident.
While i didnt notice a difference to the Sample scene from last year, it is quite shocking that in some videos average bitrate goes down to 10-15 Mbit. While H265 is a different codec than h264 in the 4k videos, i dont get it why they have to go that low.
NHVR-042 was binned due to the guy being very audible in the first scene. Didn't appear as if he was trying to be silent. Very annoying. Was looking forward to experiencing that in VR. VRKM-878 was binned due to a similar reason, though the breathing was less apparent on lower volume. A very simple thing that can ruin the entire experience. Would be great if they could replace the man with a functioning robot but alas technology hasn't advanced that far just yet.
Gone through most relevant studio catalogues now. Have 15 videos in total, cut down from 20 (5 flawed). Good porn in general is hard come by, JAV VR even more so. Will be a while until a new addition is added to the collection. Will hold off buying a headset until I am certain the purchase won't be wasted.
Need to take a long break from porn in general. Have spent too much time researching and downloading 2D porn over the last 4-5 years - now I'd rather not watch that stuff, which leaves a sour taste in my mouth. VR seems awesome, though jumping straight into it seems unwise. All just porn after all, so shouldn't let it affect my mood so drastically.
Gone through most relevant studio catalogues now. Have 15 videos in total, cut down from 20 (5 flawed). Good porn in general is hard come by, JAV VR even more so. Will be a while until a new addition is added to the collection. Will hold off buying a headset until I am certain the purchase won't be wasted.
Need to take a long break from porn in general. Have spent too much time researching and downloading 2D porn over the last 4-5 years - now I'd rather not watch that stuff, which leaves a sour taste in my mouth. VR seems awesome, though jumping straight into it seems unwise. All just porn after all, so shouldn't let it affect my mood so drastically.
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I have tested some of the videos at 8K. The improvement in definition is spectacular. The girls are even more real, it's like having them next to you. The feeling of "presence" is much improved.
At 4K you sometimes have the feeling of being inside a video, but at 8K everything is much more erotic because the girls look even more real.
It is a very important leap in JAV VR, let's hope that all studios are using these cameras. Looking forward to seeing my favorite actresses in 8K.
But that's not a defect, it's real life. If those Japanese blogs don't like it, then use the 4K version. But you can't ask the studios to make the 8K version more blurred to hide the flaws in the girls' skin...
As for what you say about the bitrate, it is true that it is quite low. It's a bit noticeable in the black and red backgrounds, which pixelate a bit. Let's hope they improve this issue.
I am very happy with these first 8K movies, it's a very important improvement. Now the hard part is to go back to 4K videos...
At 4K you sometimes have the feeling of being inside a video, but at 8K everything is much more erotic because the girls look even more real.
It is a very important leap in JAV VR, let's hope that all studios are using these cameras. Looking forward to seeing my favorite actresses in 8K.
Hmm... That's not my feeling... On the contrary, I see the colors of the skins more natural, in many movies in 4K they sometimes looked too reddish or orange...
I don't understand this criticism of the Japanese. The "too real is bad" is nonsense.. Of course, the more definition you have, the more you can see the irregularities of the skin. As it should be. They are real women, not dolls.
But that's not a defect, it's real life. If those Japanese blogs don't like it, then use the 4K version. But you can't ask the studios to make the 8K version more blurred to hide the flaws in the girls' skin...
As for what you say about the bitrate, it is true that it is quite low. It's a bit noticeable in the black and red backgrounds, which pixelate a bit. Let's hope they improve this issue.
I am very happy with these first 8K movies, it's a very important improvement. Now the hard part is to go back to 4K videos...
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Of this first batch of 8K videos, for me the best are the Moodz ones, with varied scenes and top-down missionary (where you are face to face and see the whole body, and the penetration).
The S1 ones are also very good. The IP VR ones lack the aforementioned top-down missionary, just like the Resorevo titles.
I don't know who makes this label, Resorevo, but I'm pretty sure it's KMP. They have their boring setup and slow-sex style where the girls barely move.
For example in RSVR-002 with Ichika Matsumoto, there is a good seduction scene and a good face-to-face cowgirl, but you don't see her back o butt in all the movie, no reverse cowgirl or doggy.... And the missionary, from far away. Too lazy and boring, for me it's KMP or a team working for them.
The S1 ones are also very good. The IP VR ones lack the aforementioned top-down missionary, just like the Resorevo titles.
I don't know who makes this label, Resorevo, but I'm pretty sure it's KMP. They have their boring setup and slow-sex style where the girls barely move.
For example in RSVR-002 with Ichika Matsumoto, there is a good seduction scene and a good face-to-face cowgirl, but you don't see her back o butt in all the movie, no reverse cowgirl or doggy.... And the missionary, from far away. Too lazy and boring, for me it's KMP or a team working for them.
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I think you are right about the colors being more skin-like. 4k JAV almost always had some kind of reddish coloring to it, so i have saturation just for red reduced by 10-15%. I think i got used to that coloring. In comparison the 8k videos do feel more realistic but somehow not so livid. But i think its just a matter of time that i will get used to it.
I agree to at least to some degree: not having perfect skin adds realism and is a good thing, but i still hope that studios adapt a little bit to it (i think it was in MDVR-239 that there a lot of pimples visible on the male actor and in the genital area of the girl.) Its something that is just more noticable and just need to be considered in the make-up. For far cameras were just not sharp enough to make things like that visible.
Having softening in postproduction is something i would be against as it would counteract the increase in sharpness from the 8k cameras.
I fully understand if they will not go the same way as CzechVR (80Mbit+) as it would make content not streamable anymore, but going down to 10Mbit (while 4k videos have 30Mbit quite often), is a bit extreme.
Most of the Resorevo videos (including the one you mentioned) were produced by Quatchy (https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/video...ice=vr/id=111209/limit=120/sort=release_date/) . Most of his work is for Koala VR (KIWVR), SOD and KMPVR. I know that he is quite popular and scored pretty well on sugoi-VR awards.
Most of the other 8k videos were produced by ZAMPA (also a very know producer https://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/video...ice=vr/id=108180/limit=120/sort=release_date/ ). He produced most for IPVR, SIVR and KAVR. Maybe you should check out RSRVR-003 and RSRVR-004 as they may have a different style than the other RSRVR videos.
Initialy i was quite excited to see one of the 8k videos (MDVR-241) being directed by Yazawa Receive (former SOD director), but i have to admit i was not really blown away, as camera perspectives in his other videos were always on point, but i guess we have to give these guys some time to get used to the new cameras.
I agree with you that the issue of skin imperfections, should be solved with makeup, not blurring the video. It is true that in 8K they will have to pay more attention to the makeup.
Thanks for the Resorevo data. In the end, there are specialized teams that do work for all the labels. In these early works, it has reminded me a lot of the KMP titles.
What I miss in these Resovevo titles to make them purchasable for me, is the top-down missionary. In all their 8K films I have watched the missionary is far away. And also, that the sex scenes should be a little more dynamic, in some of them they barely move...
I liked MDVR-241, at least it has more varied scenes than other 8K titles. But as you say, it's not the best work of Yazawa Receive. He is still working on SOD I think, yesterday he released a title with SOD VR, He has released several this year. But he has lost his style, now he uses more conventional camera shots, and farther away. I don't like his works this year.
Thanks for the Resorevo data. In the end, there are specialized teams that do work for all the labels. In these early works, it has reminded me a lot of the KMP titles.
What I miss in these Resovevo titles to make them purchasable for me, is the top-down missionary. In all their 8K films I have watched the missionary is far away. And also, that the sex scenes should be a little more dynamic, in some of them they barely move...
I liked MDVR-241, at least it has more varied scenes than other 8K titles. But as you say, it's not the best work of Yazawa Receive. He is still working on SOD I think, yesterday he released a title with SOD VR, He has released several this year. But he has lost his style, now he uses more conventional camera shots, and farther away. I don't like his works this year.
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I have been reading comments from people with Quest 2 that they don't notice much difference between 4K and 8K, @tim-o-tea. Maybe that's what happens to you. As I said, I do notice the difference on PC VR using 150% supersampling and MSAA 2X. Like to change from DVD to Blu-ray or 1080p to 4K.
The Apple Vision Pro, if it's really as good as they say especially when it comes to tracking, is going to break insane new grounds for porn and cybersex. They could have AI models for you to fuck, or at the very least, have people roleplay in their desired look, celebrity or otherwise. That tech is already here and made huge strides in the past 6 months, you can imagine how good it's going to get when the Vision Pro gets released next year. AR prostitution is totally gonna be a thing lol.
SIVR-260
My fav, she's back, but under a different name: Hoshi Maria
Too bad there's no "ground specialization" camera angle in this, so disappointing, her old ones are still the best. SIVR-172 almost killed me.
My fav, she's back, but under a different name: Hoshi Maria
Too bad there's no "ground specialization" camera angle in this, so disappointing, her old ones are still the best. SIVR-172 almost killed me.
They made a mistake in their promo pic for her name and changed it.
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Am I stupid, or it's the same? They spelled 'Maria' wrong(the Japanese name is still Hoshi Maria on the pic), but that's it? Sorry, I don't get it. Her previous name was Amane Mahina.
They used her old name in Kanji and changed into new name in Kanji, time to play spot the difference in the pics.
She is great, but I don't like her last title. Too much clothes for my tastes, and camera far away. I am not sure what is "ground specialization camera angle", but if it is face-to-face missionary where you see the full body of the girl and the penetration, yes, it should be mandatory in all the movies...
Ah damn it, I was only looking at the bottom left. Honestly I like her previous name more, plus it's more unique when searching, this new name sadly won't doing her any good.They used her old name in Kanji and changed into new name in Kanji, time to play spot the difference in the pics.
Yep, remember we had a 'discussion' about different types of face to face camera angles few months ago? I was saying I want the camera to be over/above the head of the actress, and I don't think I got you to understand what I meant. If you don't mind me trying once more...
Here's a pic that's close to the angle I want(but never found in any VR titles), it makes it so much more immersive/realistic as a taller guy, especially when Mahina is only 145cm. Sure you don't see the penetration as much but it's censored anyway...
Great News! FALENO returns to VR after two years!!
It is great news because they have some exclusive girls.
Come on Prestige and Fitch, is your turn..,
It is great news because they have some exclusive girls.
Come on Prestige and Fitch, is your turn..,
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The recent 8k releases are a banger after banger! The biggest stars from S1, Idea Pocket, and independent models, it's a fast for the eyes. When it comes to quality, I'm really surprised how noticeable the jump is despite rather low bitrate - the filesizes aren't any bigger than before. I can somewhat understand the criticism about it being too real - you can definitely see more of the makeup and imperfections; but i like it! To me it's all about realism, i want to know that this supermodel in front of me is also a human being, makes it even hotter IMO.