Rough/Constant Irrumatio Tribute (and sharing) Thread
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Yeah, I found the discussion now. The most disappointing part that has been haunting me for some time now, from one title to another, but in "regular" BJ titles is the same: fake cum. I can let a lot of things slide, but I won't let fake cum slide down a girl's throat. That's inexcusable, almost always. The movie has to be exceptionally good for me to forgive fake cum
LMAO
That's your moral line in the sand? Heaven forbid that some delicious dairy cream of some kind is in a girl's mouth. Oh no. Above all else, it must be warm putrid genuine biological ball snot sliding down a girl's throat.
You're a riot.
I might tolerate a little pseudo quasi non consensual innuendos, perhaps even some faux irrumatio & pinta combo. But I'll be damned if she's not taking genuine loads down her throat.
Sorry, got carried away. But yeah I totally agree. I totally lost my mind when they fucked up in a certain title and accidentally included the footage of someone pouring cream into the mouth of an actress. That was supposed to be off camera. It totally killed my boner, and caused me to sustain philosophical injury against my soul.
Damn, I didn't even notice. You're saying ANAV-003 had fake cum? I guess I didn't watch a good chunk of it, so either I missed it, or I'm just a sucka. I'm just a mark.
And yeah I agree, it's possible for me to forgive fake cum, if the actress gives an academy award caliber performance, that's so good, that my disbelief is suspended.
I mean, as far as I understand, the whole bukkake thing started because of censorship, so they wanted to "at least show something" uncensored, so they started showing lots of spunk (to use a British term) on a girl's face and other body areas. But now, they don't even have that
I personally am used to mosaics already, and to be honest, even though I can appreciate the beauty of a dick in general, as a God's creation, some of them are gross (if not most). I mean, mine is nothing close to perfect, but it's porn, it should be something porn-worthy, and it actually means something close to aesthetic standards in size, shape, color, etc. Then we have a stereotypical "small Japanese phimosis dick" (of course not all of them are like that, but some of them are, and they have a whole fetish/genre blown out of this, which is quite understandable), and even if we do not, they are just regular average dicks with regular balls and somewhat decent shape. Long story short, that's why I don't mind censorship in JAV
But then they fake lots and lots of stuff. Fake sex, fake deepthroats, fake sex noises (one of my favorites in terms of body, Kaho Shibuya, is notorious for that, for example, too much noises, seems very far from genuine), and... fake creampies, and facials, and mouthfuls. Hey, don't we have anything real left in JAV... Oh, we had tits and ass... but even that, even in JAV, is now to be doubted. I see more and more actresses with fake tits and even asses (Maria Nagai might be the best example). Hey, Japan prefers small and even flat butts for some reason, cultural or whatever (takes less space? but then why do they prefer their tits big?), and I can understand why they would use something like butt enhancement, but with tits, they can be beautiful even if they are small (there is pettanko, which is flat chest, and it's a fetish — but I haven't heard of the same fetish for flat butts, at least I'm not interested at all), and Alexis Texas, or Brianna Love, or Bobbi Starr (man, they are sexy), and many more even in the West are great examples
I started doubting even that. Japan that seemed trustworthy in terms of not having plastic surgery on breast and buttocks, is now to be doubted even in that. And it all seems obvious now: they have gyaru, they have all kinds of make-up, nails, eyelashes, lenses, etc., so why wouldn't they have fake body parts?
It is just another drop in my sine wave of culture perception. When you watch your first JAV, same as with manga, or anime, or sushi, you're exhilarated, then it wears out, and you become overcritical, then you find something like "The Throat Series", and you're back up again, you ride the sine wave, but it wears out again, then you find, say, Shiori Tsukada, and she carries you for a long time, but then you see Maria Nagai and start asking yourself if Shiori's perfect big butt is real or not... but you forget, or pretend to forget, and find something else again. Recently, for me, it was "amateur" gonzo blowjob titles (e.g. the recent DROP-106), but here as well, you see fake cum (another rant about a movie in the genre — and about the DROP-106 itself, just to give you an example), and it seems like there is nothing left to support you... again
Oh well, I have long adopted the philosophical view of "let's just find some twisted way to have fun watching how the shit goes down". I guess it's close to absurdism in some regard. And Camus seemed like a cool dude
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It's in the discussion about ANAV-003 that this scene with "cream footage" was discussed, so I assumed it is fake cum. Though they could have used cream just... as lube? I've watched at the timestamp given there, and they didn't make an "oral creampie" out of it. But in any case, it's confusing, and it takes you out of this "ape-like bliss" of just mindlessly enjoying it
Actually, in the "review" for DROP-106 that I've linked, I give an example of how the overall performance can save the day. So, yeah, I agree with that as well
But overall (I don't know how they usually translate this into English since it's not my first language), as Schopenhauer said, "life is constant en-illusionment and dis-illusionment" (i.e. being enchanted and disenchanted by it, in waves, basically, so it all seems to be coming to the same conclusion... selection bias)
I guess I'm the opposite. Here's exhibit 1 from GNAX-037
![ELITE FAV GLUMP homeless GNAX-037.mp4_snapshot_00.44.05_[2022.12.18_21.17.07].jpg](https://www.akiba-online.com/data/attachments/3558/3558802-12f83bd611350144ef52b2cd991000e2.jpg?hash=Evg71hE1AU "ELITE FAV GLUMP homeless GNAX-037.mp4_snapshot_00.44.05_[2022.12.18_21.17.07].jpg")
In the story the dude is homeless. Notice how dirty his shirt is.
A successful attractive young woman suddenly gets her head pushed down by a homeless intruder, and forced to deepthroat a smelly penis that's been unwashed for god knows how long.
Obviously the gimmick of this series is a certain of type of humiliation/ degradation. Exhibit # 2
Notice in the images of the cover, it depicts dirty homeless dudes, and they definitely look the part. Very dirty. So if you ever approach hardcore fans of this type of porn, and you asked them if they prefer if the mosaic was removed, I would bet money they prefer it was removed. Why? Because the make up artists who applied make up on the faces of men to make them look homeless, can also apply make up to make their dicks look filthy.
Why you ask? Because it's all part of this specific type of humiliation gimmick.
Most men prefer to see a girl in porn with a big cock in her mouth, instead of a small or average size cock.
But if you were to ask the fans of this type of porn if they prefer a nice looking cock or a hideous looking one, I would bet they would prefer the hideous looking one. Because it is congruent with the humiliation gimmick.
So I'm definitely the opposite of you when it comes to penis appearance.
Don't get me wrong. Size is the priority. If I have a choice of a huge nice looking penis, or an average/ below average hideous penis, they I'll choose the large one.
However, all things equal, including size, if it's a humiliation fetish, then I choose the hideous one.
All things being equal, I would always choose to remove mosaic if it was possible. But generally it's not that big a deal. I don't prefer the mosaic, but it's tolerable.
That's definitely congruent with the biological imperative. Ideal butt shape/size is correlated with adequate sized hips, which is conducive for a safe pregnancy. Size of tits have no correlation to the amount of milk production. Essentially fun bags. Thus we can work with small tits. It's not a deal breaker at all. I myself prefer proportional small cup vs non or less proportional huge ones.
Well put it this way. I prefer my wife or girlfriend to have proportional ones, prioritizing proportion over size, but if it's some passive girl on a crowded train who for some bizarre inexplicable reason won't yell for help if you just pull her blouse and bra down, and reveal her huge rack and tantalizing nipples, then in this case I'll mess around with huge tits, LOL
Please send me a website of this throat series. I might already know it, but I'm not sure
I see. I haven't looked at it that way. Agree. It's the same as pussy: there is a kind of fetish where they use bandages etc. to clearly show the outlines of it, and I understand that. But on the other hand, what censorship kills is being able to see that precious "peach" pussy (that I actually mentioned some time ago when talking about Shirosaki Aoi) in all its glory
That's what I shared also in the Blowjobs thread. Agree. Okay, I see, that "general" vs. "specifics" makes total sense
I guess everyone knows about it, but it's just that in English it sounds too broad (on Jav Land it's just called "Throat"). The same one I mentioned, the same one that maybe got a lot of people interested in the genre in the first place. Well, at least now I have an excuse to use that cover with HIna I mentioned
She looks so used, and slutty, and dumb, and sexy here that irrumatio is the way, even for me. As a wise one once said, "Use the force, (up to the point of) Puke"
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Which brings up a question: since you've seen much more irrumatio stuff than I did, what irrumatio series would you list that have consistently huge cocks?
In some of them, I think, this is even part of the "plot": to challenge the girl with increasingly larger ones, and these are one of my favorites
I'll list the ones I know (not just irrumatio, but BJ-focused), these are not so many (the translations are partly mine):
- The "Throat" series itself
- "Girls Who Love Sucking Cock"
- "Dick-Sucking Maiden Club"
- "First Ever Deepthroat Experience with a Big Cock"
- "No-Licking Deepthroat" (at least the last one there is always the same guy with a huge one)
- "Dick-Stupid" (again, at least one scene with a really huge one in each movie of the series, and a blowbang with, I think, that one and a few more sizeable ones)
P.S. Or maybe not series, but directors, labels, studios etc. that are known to... use? utilize? employ? big-dicked actors a lot. E.g. that guy from the "No-Licking Deepthroat" series can be seen it lots of other movies by Radix
P.P.S. Okay, I realized only now that some (if not most or even all) of the titles in the first three series in the list are directed by the same guy, and he even continued shooting pretty much the same "Throat" series for another studio (don't know how they handled that legally since even the covers look the same, but anyway). So I guess I'll start by checking out his other works. Maybe it's his modus operandi: huge cocks vs. deep throats. 悪くない、絶対に
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Or maybe it's not a guy even. "Annie", huh. If it's a girl, then it's even more sexy. Meta-sexy. I've encountered a few females in JAV doing the camera work and even interacting with the actresses during, but female directors and with such rough stuff...
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Any/Ani/Annie Nakamura is a guy. Kanou Hana is the only female director of Irrumatio that I know of. Maybe others can chime in?
I feel the same way, I am used to it at this point. It's probably for the best in JAV anyway since they're usually wearing condoms or have weird looking dicks. It's just not something I feel I need to see anymore. Also not sure if others agree but what I really don't like are the AI-uncensored videos which generate imagery to overlay over the mosaic. It just looks fake and weird.
I don't mind it too much anymore. I am a little annoyed with the all the crappy "uncensored leaked" AI de-mosaic re-releases coming out but I have seen a few that are getting good.
I am a little excited for the day that we can choose to turn them on or off with some really good AI in a year or so!
I am a little excited for the day that we can choose to turn them on or off with some really good AI in a year or so!
Condoms as well, yeah. I still remember how surprised I was when I first started watching decensored JAV and saw how often condoms were used. Lame
As for the quality of decensoring, I feel it's getting better, but "artifacts" sure still happen and are quite noticeable. And I agree with dt_passion that there might be even more progress. I personally couldn't have even imagined the progress I see now — even five years ago. To be able to get something really arousing from AI erotic writers (like Novel.ai)? Who could have guessed
IPZZ series does tend to prioritize beauty over the level of irama. I totally dig it. Beauty can definitely mitigate medium levels of irama.
Here's another title that has a gorgeous actress with pretty darn good levels of irama, especially for someone that hot.
STARS-824 MINAMO
That's when you know a girl is hot. When you're in the mood for irama only, and she starts getting fucked, and you don't fast forward to an irama scene, you just continue jerking it to her at doggy style or missionary.
Maybe I'm even more biased now, knowing that this and many other of the greatest throating masterpieces are done by the same guy, but his works have some...
It's like: "I know what you want. I'll get either the best throaters or the ones you'll enjoy most seeing struggle, or both*. I'll get the biggest cocks, and I'll even order them by size. I'll cut all the crap, it will be just condensed action. Same stuff you all like, consistently — but there will also be some variety still, something extra to look forward to**... Anyway, you can count on me, you sick bastards". And the cover just packs it all nicely: the front says, "Here's how this cutie looked before", while the back says, "Here's what awaits her". Again, a lot of covers do that, if not most, but here, it's similarly condensed and intentionally... purified, yes
* For me, as I've mentioned multiple times already, it's Nanase Hina, but many others in the series as well, e.g. Momoka (very fitting POV segment there, even though I skip those quite often), or Toua (obviously, such a petite cutie), or Suzu (one of the best in anything oral, but also — not just this beautiful face, but also.. this voice, this oh-so-feminine yet raspy voice... like honey with spice)
** The best example for me among his works is still this scene with Reira. Man that was unexpected... and equally great... Even if the cum is fake, it's done well
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I definitely appreciate when a scene is done so well, that it's difficult to know for sure if it was fake or real cum.
I did watch that Reira scene. Definitely well done.
However............ correct me if I'm wrong. Couldn't the director just instruct the actress to open her mouth wide to the camera to prove her mouth is completely empty and devoid of that evil fake cum. Ideally the timing of her proving her mouth is empty is roughly around the time when the man is nearing climax.
Then after she shows her mouth is empty, the man can resume one glorious irama session to completion. Obviously the last scene before climax, must be done in one take with no cuts, so that it would be impossible for her the staff to put cream/fake cum in her mouth.
I'm guessing this will never become standard practice, because every other irrumatio film that doesn't adhere to this practice, would automatically be perceived as fraudulent. The fake cum option would be forever lost, which would be unsustainable, because not every single actress can or wants to sustain genuine irama climax in her throat. Those heaven sent angels, willing to do it are the exception, not the norm. Not to mention that not every male porn star is a specimen capable of producing giant loads capable of appeasing our degenerate standards.
The very act of showing your empty mouth before every load would be an indictment of other films, and simply unsustainable for the industry.
Speaking of fake cum. On the link at the bottom, at time stamps:
1:11 (actually this scene is puke dripping down, not semen)
1:24
1:59
I perceive those time stamp scenes to be genuine deep irama load busting. What are the chances it's real?
I'm so enamored by these specific scenes, that I applied for a $39 annual fee American Express card, which arrives tomorrow, to buy this damn film.
On second thought don't answer that. Ignorance is bliss. If it's difficult to know if it's real or not, why the heck would I punish myself with unnecessary doubts?
LINK: random exclusive KIRM title preview
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I don't know how it's commonly called, but I would call it "overproving the point", i.e. trying to prove something like that, you risk making those who didn't even think that it can be faked doubt it. It's like, "Hey, our offer is completely scam free!.."
And this as well. So, there are at least two strong points against it, business-wise. Not counting the basic one you've also covered that for cinematic reasons, for it to look engaging, there is almost always a need to fake it since producing such amount of sperm is not possible for normal males, or even if it is, it requires literally accumulating it, which means not cumming until the shoot, which is also problematic since the longer man doesn't cum, the faster he will when he finally has sex. Yeah... the more I actually think about it, the more I feel their pain... Though it does not in any way justify the cum looking as fake as it did in USAG-065. And hey, even if the cum is real there, it still looks fake, which is another common cinematographic issue (stuff not looking real on camera even though it's real)
Yes, that's the same I feel. I've come to like "amateur" BJ-only JAV so much, it's very difficult to make me not enjoy it. Still, the latest stuff is very suspicious even for me. So I just look for older stuff. For example, as I mentioned, I've spent some money on Fanza, and I don't actually regret paying for it. It's 4 hours of quality oral time. Even if it's fake, it doesn't look that fake. Suspension of disbelief. Some JAV, like any other film, have it, while some do not
But just as with regular cinema and TV, this makes documentaries all the more valuable. Yes, even documentaries can be easily faked on many levels, but whenever you find something genuine (that is, again, if this is at all possible with the media per se), you'll value it manifold
The American Express card arrived. It's incompatible for some reason LOL. Probably a good thing. I can totally fall into a rabbit hole.
EDIT: I wonder if it's a VPN issue.
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