Declining quality of the rips

ding73ding

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Yeah I came across freedl before but never made it a regular target. Perhaps once in a while I'd come across a wanted vid that I can't find on thzla and 168x. I want FHD, but 720p is indeed acceptable.
 

h0rn3t

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ok i take back what i already said before this. i found that their encoding quality is worse. they had no better knowledge about encoding via x264. for more technically details you can see what they using this parameters:

cabac=1 / ref=2 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=76 / lookahead_threads=8 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=30 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=6448 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00

they doesn't even care about the quality. they just select default preset and sacrifice all important part about gaining quality and speed up encoding process... for example (me=hex / subme=6 / me_range=16 / trellis=1 / fast_pskip=1 / bframe=3 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / aq=1)

which is all i listed is leading to poor output quality. if you have good eyes. you can notice have a bit laggy on video even it is on 29.97 or 30fps. and the aac audio is too poor. they re-encode back like anime lower than 92 kb/s.
 

Casshern2

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...they doesn't even care about the quality. they just select default preset and sacrifice all important part about gaining quality and speed up encoding process
Yup, I've been saying that forever. They are just interested in getting their watermark on it and out on the web as soon as they can.
 

rice12345

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Update on 168x.me or 77xx.me uploads. It seems they've made their watermark even smaller. A look at DASD-440(Sho Noshino) you have to really look for it to see water mark. So I guess that's pretty good, but the file size is pretty big, around 6 GB.
 
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msia2k75

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168x.me encodes are a shoppy mess imo. Image quality is fine, their latest wt is definitel bearable but their playback, just plain horrible.
 

hairy_bush

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great quality so far 44x.me torrents...small advert clip in beginning..but no watermark in movie...(from the one i saw)

saw some vids 77xx.me, looks good too

don't know about 168x.me..but some of you say it's good

PLZ avoid hjd2048.com..this is the dio group vids that have the big watermarks around the vids also the torrent size is smaller than what is stated cuz there's a lot of junk included in the torrent.. unfortunately OFFKAB over at sukebei is posting a lot of these and thus they have more seeders/peers than the 44x/77xx/168x torrents

Lastly....thz torrents are still floating around seems to be the same as the dio torrents but with less watermarks
 

LoliKing25

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Honestly, OFFKAB has been one of my main go tos. I will keep downloading from him. I am not that concerned by watermark at this time, and am a bit too lazy to find any similar sized releaser of content in one simple place like sukebei.
 

msia2k75

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great quality so far 44x.me torrents...small advert clip in beginning..but no watermark in movie...(from the one i saw)

saw some vids 77xx.me, looks good too

don't know about 168x.me..but some of you say it's good

PLZ avoid hjd2048.com..this is the dio group vids that have the big watermarks around the vids also the torrent size is smaller than what is stated cuz there's a lot of junk included in the torrent.. unfortunately OFFKAB over at sukebei is posting a lot of these and thus they have more seeders/peers than the 44x/77xx/168x torrents

Lastly....thz torrents are still floating around seems to be the same as the dio torrents but with less watermarks

77xx.me = 168x.me
 

ding73ding

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The situation with SD (~360p) or 480p is a bit weird as there are no decent rips any more, the white-one-line group has disappeared and dioguitar reigns supreme. Which is very strange. It would take absolute minimal work to d/l FHD from a better rip groups, re-encode to 480p, then upload it to a paid host. Bam watch the revenue (from paid host) tinkle into your pants pocket. Why the only one doing this work is the much hated dioguitar?

Anyway I don't bother with SD anyway. FHD scene is great (again). My own fav thzla stopped uploading new vids on Aug 21. This had happened before, I think at the end of Chinese New Year holiday (school). So this time, suspending uploads 10-ish days before start of school year, no worries right. I kept checking every other day (just in case), and use both 168x and Sukebei for temporary relief. Then thz.la website even died, again it happened before. But it looked worrying. A few (long) days later it came back under a new domain name BUT still no uploads. Finally school starts and new vids were added again... finally finally after 2 weeks. From Sep 3 to now, about 375 vids have been added in 4 days. I haven't checked but it seems thz.la is catching up with those 14-ish days of suspension.

So for those 2 weeks I could not rely on my established habit (use my own app to scrap thzla) and here's my view of the scene:
1. SD/480p, already mentioned. I am especially annoyed they (loosely speaking they) often upload a thumbnail generated from watermark-free FHD version because there are leechers who checks thumbnails for watermark. But it's nearly futile, it's easy to notice the torrent says 1.4GB but the thumbnail says 7.1GB. Stay away from those. I got a couple of dioguitar over past 9-ish month and ended up deleting them and instead get a FHD and perform downsample.

2. thzla, still my personal fav, FHD at reasonable filesize (typical 4200kbps), easy to get and archive and easy on my LAN and playback hardware. Good (not great) seeds. Release pace is good but never zeroth or first day. Their selection include many yuck vids esp. grandma porn and once in a while scat. But nevermind those, they pretty much provide 100% coverage of my want vids (which admitted is very narrow). Only a few vids (1-ish? maybe even fewer than that) per year I had to look to other groups.

3. 168x/77xx at first seems attractive to me since their website design is extremely similar to thzla. A nasty yellow (77xx) watermark that disappear after 5 sec, awesome. Their release pace is near-first day, another plus. But their rips are typical 6500 kbps. Slightly too big and playback poorly on my bedroom set-top box. I could be wrong... but the bloated file size and poor playback maybe one thing: 60 fps nope it's not frame rate I don't know what the issue is). And they seem to miss a lot of top studio vids. What the...

4. 44x seems to me perfectly free of watermark aweawesome. Don't know if they have a website, so I use sukebei to find them. Caps at 6000 kbps, playback fine on my bedroom set-top, perhaps only spending extra split second to buffer. Very excellent alternative to thzla and a lifesaver when thzla went on holiday (would my nuts explode for a whole week without porn? never want to find out). Maybe I should do a side-by-side with thzla for the finer comparison (someone mentioned color saturation or something). Thzla rips may not be gorgeous but it's plenty good enough for my use. To deal with the 50% larger size of 44x I archive the FHD version on HDD or BD and re-encode to 720p at about 2600 kbps (it's plenty fine for fapping) on the NAS, re-encode takes only 1 hour on my performance PC (but once it takes 8 hours on a 1.8GHz Celeron). 720p is very easy on my bedroom set-up, random seek is super-responsive. (random seek is essential when watch with a partner). I try to minimize re-encode/down-sample, it's not a good use of my time. But sometimes it's a quick (ironic) fix solution.
 
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msia2k75

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Feb 25, 2013
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I will bother with thz.la rips only when they will learn to do proper, smooth encodes... until then, i will avoid them.
 

gf25

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is thz.la dead? Last week I checked and they didn't have any new torrents since like 3rd week of August and now I check today and the site won't work.

If they are indeed dead, what's a good alternative? Please and thanks!
 

LoliKing25

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is thz.la dead? Last week I checked and they didn't have any new torrents since like 3rd week of August and now I check today and the site won't work.

If they are indeed dead, what's a good alternative? Please and thanks!
No, this always happens around back to school where they are based. They are back up now, and released more than 375 videos in just 3 days.
 

LoliKing25

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offkab is releasing some pretty large file sizes the past few months or so, but has really been doing more past few days (10.6GB+). Have seen plenty of 20-30 Gig releases from them.
 

hairy_bush

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ok just an update of another torrent source

[7sht.me]... has been showing up of late...so far as I've seen 1) Has NO watermark 2) Has NO stoopid AD video at the begininng #) quality seems good

recap:
44x.me ..1) NO watermark BUT 2) Has a stoopid Ad video at the beginiing 3) Quality seems good
168x.me 1) SMALL watermark, BUT 2) Sometimes NO Stoopid Ad video, 3) Quality seems good
hjd2048.com- DIO torrents 1) Has the HUGE DIO watermarks and 2) Quality is worse,
Thz is well thz same as DIO torrents but with less watermarks

Choose the one that you like..

.but I'm just wondering if the ones with the Ad video in the beginning sometimes, the playback is not so smooth..but that could be me, if anyone else can give their opinion that be great
 
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hairy_bush

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just another observation...not all 44x.me torrents have Ad vids

like this one [44x.me]apkh-074 is totally clean no watermarks, no Ad video but this one [44x.me]APNS-063 has the Ad video

so no way to tell unless you DL it..

here's another
[789x.me] no watermark, no Ad vid
 
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