AV Open 2016

Supmop

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Just take a quick look of all titles, only AVOP-259 from baby ent and AVOP-256 interest me. What a boring year of av open.

I see some title look like a big collection of old vids, they're not even release a new one.

The story will be mostly fuck with different actress, no interesting story line or fantasy.

boring because S1 and Moodyz did not go all out :(

but they have something fresh like chinese vampire, and Nozomi Sasama did MMFF duet

that chinese vampire is good fantasy, could be great if they have some pretty sexy girls

Agreed, this year is far weaker than 2015, mainly due to the absence of several heavyweights (Ai Uehara, Aimi Yoshikawa, Kaho Kasumi etc). Aika is featured the most...here's her chance to stamp her mark during this power void.

agree with this, her strongest rival only Hibiki Otsuki, and based on videos that compete in AV Open now Aika is number 1 candidate

What exactly is the AV Open?

like paparoach already posted above, and its not competition for the best video only, but also for best director, best actor and best actress
 
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Supmop

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Wow, that's not at all what I was imagining when Supmop said Chinese Vampire...

haha thats why I did not write girls :p

I only like the concept but not the females

The Chinese Vampire Older Women title (not "girl") looks horrible on every level IMO. It's from Center Village. No girls to be found.

but sometimes center village have pretty sexy or at least decent MILF

agree this one is horrible, maybe they want to present the horror factor :confused:
 
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just noticed this thread already have a lot discussions ;)

here AV Open 2016 videos that I like :

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I just read that the poor entries this year were the results of the recent scandal where several top execs were arrested on the suspicion that they had coerced some girls into appearing in their films. To avoid investigations of any kind, the studios withheld a number of their original submissions that could potentially draw suspicion, and apparently just picked "safer" films from their shelves as replacements. What that means exactly, I'm not too sure...I mean, has there been a noticeable lack of r***/blackmail themed porn or newcomers this year?

Even more terrible news is that this doesn't just affect AV Open; production everywhere has drastically reduced and we may see a significant drop in new films and newcomers in as early as September. Dark times lie ahead of us...
 

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I just read that the poor entries this year were the results of the recent scandal where several top execs were arrested on the suspicion that they had coerced some girls into appearing in their films. To avoid investigations of any kind, the studios withheld a number of their original submissions that could potentially draw suspicion, and apparently just picked "safer" films from their shelves as replacements. What that means exactly, I'm not too sure...I mean, has there been a noticeable lack of r***/blackmail themed porn or newcomers this year?

Even more terrible news is that this doesn't just affect AV Open; production everywhere has drastically reduced and we may see a significant drop in new films and newcomers in as early as September. Dark times lie ahead of us...

you should link where you saw the comment

and on this
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What that means exactly, I'm not too sure...I mean, has there been a noticeable lack of r***/blackmail themed porn or newcomers this year?"
There has not been any drops so far in those two aspect, there will always be many debuts, and r*** themed films. If anything is going to drop it's going to be the outdoor/bus tour kind of thing for a few months.
 

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Where did you read that? As far as I know the only people arrested where executives of the modeling agency involved, not anyone from the JAV industry.

Also I don't think these are safer films, people are complaining about a lack of established stars whereas these are mostly debuts. There are also just as many if not more extreme videos in this years collection than the last two years.

I think there are more newcomers this year so far than last, and plenty of r***/blackmail. I haven't noticed a change at all. We'll see I guess, but I doubt this will have a noticeable effect. The industry already came out with a "supportive/cooperative" statement and it seems to have died down already as most controversies do in Japan.

this http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/0...2-persons-prosecuted-over-outdoor-porn-shoot/ happened earlier in the month, so if anything is going to slowdown it's outdoor stuff.
 

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Here, but it's in Chinese.

The scandal was supposed to have drawn to a close as the accused company had shut it's doors. But one of my favs Saki Kouzai has some beans to spill about how she too was a victim of coercion and brainwashing (what a strong word) on Shunkan Bunshun in a week or two. Maybe she's trying to draw attention, I dunno...but I don't think anyone would risk being sued for slander for publicity.

Take everything with a pinch of salt guys, I never know what goes on really in the business.
 
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paparoach408

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Here, but it's in Chinese.

The scandal was supposed to have drawn to a close as the accused company had shut it's doors. But one of my favs Saki Kouzai has some beans to spill about how she too was a victim of blackmail and brainwashing (what a strong word) on Shunkan Bunshun in a week or two. Maybe she's trying to draw attention, I dunno...but I don't think anyone would risk being sued for slander for publicity.

Take everything with a pinch of salt guys, I never know what goes on really in the business.

so basically fear of being accused of things is why the industry is going to be different for the next few months, and the Marks Japan stuff and outdoor porn shoot, this is going to be an intriguing next few months
 
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I just read that the poor entries this year were the results of the recent scandal where several top execs were arrested on the suspicion that they had coerced some girls into appearing in their films. To avoid investigations of any kind, the studios withheld a number of their original submissions that could potentially draw suspicion, and apparently just picked "safer" films from their shelves as replacements. What that means exactly, I'm not too sure...I mean, has there been a noticeable lack of r***/blackmail themed porn or newcomers this year?

Even more terrible news is that this doesn't just affect AV Open; production everywhere has drastically reduced and we may see a significant drop in new films and newcomers in as early as September. Dark times lie ahead of us...

it might be connected, but what I noticed is this year AV Open movies are lack of "wow movies" studios like Moodyz and S1 did not all out anymore, r*** / blackmail theme like usually released by Attackers and it still, I saw some debut movies this year so no lack of newcomers

I'm not the fan of r*** theme, so as long they still releasing good orgy videos it won't be dark time

this http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/0...2-persons-prosecuted-over-outdoor-porn-shoot/ happened earlier in the month, so if anything is going to slowdown it's outdoor stuff.

yes, JAV will lack of outdoor actions
 
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I haven't seen a good bus tour JAV in 3 years =(.

do you mean Moodyz bako bako bus tour ? I think last year winner is good

I really don't think it will have an effect, while it is an unfortunate part of every pornographic industry I don't think JAV relies on coercion/deception to get actresses. At least directly, so long as the job market in Japan remains so difficult for young women, and the opportunity/money is there I think sex work will remain popular.

agree with this

Indecent exposure charges for outdoor shoots are not that big of a deal (which is why I think they all plead guilty), I think that is not as big of a deal as the coercion charges earlier but that seems to be contained pretty much to Marks (the modeling agency).

I would say the JAV industry is going through a boom, you are seeing studios put out new labels at a rate we haven't seen in recent years, I also see a lot more newcomers at least that I am interested in. I also haven't seen much canceled, or labels I'm interested no longer producing so far.

but I'm noticed this year has more canceled before release videos than last year, from Idea Pocket and S1
 

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I would say the JAV industry is going through a boom, you are seeing studios put out new labels at a rate we haven't seen in recent years, I also see a lot more newcomers at least that I am interested in. I also haven't seen much canceled, or labels I'm interested no longer producing so far.

Obviously these scandals can only have temporary effects at best on the multi-billion dollar industry. But while I too think that JAV is in a golden period (less so recently where there's been a few prominent retirements), the boss of SOD claims that the market is in decline. You can read it here and a commentator's opinion here.
 
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Obviously these scandals can only have temporary effects at best on the multi-billion dollar industry. But while I too think that JAV is in a golden period (less so recently where there's been a few prominent retirements), the boss of SOD claims that the market is in decline. You can read it here and a commentator's opinion here.
he has interesting opinions

"GT: I'm talking about the fighting spirit of our output. There's less money, time, and less cute girls! The pressure to produce is way up, but the ability to do so is in the doldrums. God is the media and the media is God and that's what we're up against!"

"GT: It's OK for employees to make mistakes. It's also time to stop treating the talent like royalty. They are not high-priced sashimi needing overly special care. Let's not shove them into bland sex productions and hope star power results in a few sales. We can do better! People are scared of failure so you're seeing less and less unique productions in favor of boring sex."

but i agree with a lot of it. Production is up, but money(thanks to a bunch of piracy) is down(even though it's in a stable place) while the core girls(the girls that debuted from say 2014 to now) are pretty lackluster, like there are quite a few girls that have come around and pretty much instantly demanded superstar attention/treatment/pay yet aren't superstar type performers.

We need a return of the Sora Aoi/Maria Ozawa type top girls in the industry to help stabilize it, because right now it's not to great especially since Ai Uehara retired.
 
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I just hope more of them will be posted here without watermarks than on the previous AVOP. Still not seen most of them due to lack of decent copies.
The ghost one looks like fun.
Did anyone ever request non-watermarked ones in the Request sections? Otherwise...I'd imagine there weren't many being posted. :cool:
 
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Why on earth would I want to go back to having only a few actresses appearing in everything, mostly just rehashes of the exact same scene for 3-4 major studios.

That was the "golden age" only because what came before it was even more limited by comparison. So many more attractive women in JAV now, and actresses doing more varied content. SOD never had more variety or different kind of scenes than they do now. They have a little more variety now, but are one of the most bland companies and always have been. The only advantage they ever had were their actresses locked into doing a dozen pictures with them in their primes. Not to mention they spent massively on marketing for them (looking back without rose colored glasses most are not as good as I remember).

Frankly SOD is in decline because everyone else is making more interesting porn than them now. They only were so popular when they were the only pony show in town with the best ponies locked into exclusive deals. Yuck, screw SOD I hope they go out of business. That guy is stuck living in the past when he could control girls' careers from start to finish practically.

Blaming piracy is a weak argument too, as if it wasn't just as easy to find pirated content 10 years ago.

Having studios like SOD decline is great for the industry at this time, it creates a vacuum where others willing to innovate and make interesting JAV can take advantage. Production costs are down we don't need everything being made by a few big companies any longer.

All i want is stars back the top girl that is a pure idol(3-4 major studios), and then the dirty one that does everything with everyone(Maria Ozawa/Ai Uehara) Like i think legit stars help the industry, it keeps performers like Aika. and the Diva Rion/Shion away from the top, heck if Tsubomi went free lance again we'd have one of those holes at the top filled

Looks which are important, aren't the biggest factor to me. I mean i will take an average looking performer, that perfoms great over a great looking actress that isn't a good performer. Also S1S1 has done the same thing the past 16 years, use the contract girl formula, and they are still top dog, SOD was never the one trick pony kind of company, when they did the SDMT stuff they where the most creative/risk taking company around.

Having studios decline like SOD is not great for the industry, it'll just mean the Hokuto Corporation(owners of S1S1, DASD, Muteki, Moodyz, Attackers, Madonna, Idea pocket, and many more) would have no competition at all why would Hokuto try to be more interesting if they have no competition? Like there's really no way that Japan home Media(Max-A, Alice Japan), or the prestige company has any chance to compete
 
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he has interesting opinions

"GT: I'm talking about the fighting spirit of our output. There's less money, time, and less cute girls! The pressure to produce is way up, but the ability to do so is in the doldrums. God is the media and the media is God and that's what we're up against!"

"GT: It's OK for employees to make mistakes. It's also time to stop treating the talent like royalty. They are not high-priced sashimi needing overly special care. Let's not shove them into bland sex productions and hope star power results in a few sales. We can do better! People are scared of failure so you're seeing less and less unique productions in favor of boring sex."

but i agree with a lot of it. Production is up, but money(thanks to a bunch of piracy) is down(even though it's in a stable place) while the core girls(the girls that debuted from say 2014 to now) are pretty lackluster, like there are quite a few girls that have come around and pretty much instantly demanded superstar attention/treatment/pay yet aren't superstar type performers.

We need a return of the Sora Aoi/Maria Ozawa type top girls in the industry to help stabilize it, because right now it's not to great especially since Ai Uehara retired.

agree

Blaming piracy is a weak argument too, as if it wasn't just as easy to find pirated content 10 years ago.

10 years ago internet in most countries are not so fast and still not reliable, so pirated contents distribution is much worse than 10 years ago, and yes today is much more easy to find pirated contents

now more peoples are attracted to pirated contents, many of them are used to pay legal copies
 
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I disagree, I don't think you need giant studios to produce quality JAV, saying some were more creative than others is just pointless imo because they were like Hollywood studios. Sure they make some good movies, but they spend a lot of time playing it safe and ripping eachother off. I don't remember them being nearly as daring as the new labels I follow. Entrepreneurial spirit is what drives real innovation and the old guard is often in the way of this.

Even a few years ago those big studios had such power in the industry they crowded out others, I saw very few new labels compared to now and a lot of them burned out quickly. As the big ones have declined you have seen new labels and studios come in and make more interesting porn with some of the top talent that would in years past have been pretty much only doing one studio until their initial big contract was up, then maybe if they were big stars do the other "big ones".

The studio boss is complaining about them doing "lesser porn" for these other studios because in the past in demand actresses would rarely consider working for them. They had a monopoly on talent, and now they don't and there is surprise, surprise more content and more talent with more variety in labels.

The past was boring, I mean at the time it was great, but the current situation is better for me at least and I look forward to the future.

basically I agree with you on this

but its depend on what you consider as good quality JAV, for me I love big orgy videos with a lot of pretty sexy girls (most of them are famous names), surely it need big money, and I think new labels still can't afford it