She is so pretty it’s crazy. A different kind of pretty to Camilla flower, Yu Shinoda etc Like I would NEVRR see her doing the wildest of content if I saw her on the street. She has that middle class corporate management look to a T. Of course there are some slutty corpos, but they’d keep it private due to image reasons etc.
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Is it me that’s kiiiinda disappointed with the scene, we rarely got a controlled throat fuck of Emmma, but it was chaotic, dudes didn’t get to keep their dick in her mouth for minutes like she did in other MISM Scenes. Screaming, wrangling around , she wasn’t a static Fleshlight like she’s known for. Still great but I expected a masterpiece
Also wanna add. I may need to change my theory that it’s directors that stop black actors going rough, because Emma managed to allow one white actor do a throat bulge , where she got throat fucked upside down , and the dude put his whole pipe down which caused the neck bulge. When the black guy who went next, tried to but failed either due to Emma’s gag reflex or throat closing up when he tried to, it clearly wasn’t the director as the director told the actor to keep going and shouted “ put it all the way down!”. They had a term for the neck bulge I believe they called it “ poco”.
I was hoping for that “poco” as well (let’s assume that’s throat bulge until someone else equipped enough correct us on that), there was full insertion at some point, begging for some thumping, but he just withdrew pretty quickly. It could be something physical going on. I also agree with the point about chaotic, it might have to do with them trying to potray Emma’s shock/bewilderment, let’s hope this is a starter and we’ll get to a point where they mix in minutes long “sessions”.
My theory is they choose one lucky guy ahead of time to be the one that does "poco" the longest, and with the most intensity, which as you observed was the white dude.
It's part of their management system which strives for:
Accommodate potential safety issues with the actress
OR
Accommodate the agreements in the contract. Perhaps her price was too high to have 4 dudes utilizing maximum poco, or perhaps it's not even a price issue. Perhaps she has a manager negotiating these important issues on her behalf, and that's the agreement they arrived at, for her safety and wellbeing.
Part of the clue on how well negotiated on Ema's behalf this film seems to be is the glaringly obvious fake thick cum, after a dude obviously pretends to bust in her mouth. Right before he pretends to bust a nut in her mouth, the camera suddenly shifts towards someone playing with her pussy or something, while someone off screen quickly pours fake thick cum in her mouth.
Don't get me wrong, I'm super spoiled by the standards set by Ema. My complaints are completely based on the high standards she has set. Compared to the average overall, then this film is absolutely excellent, and I need to shut the fuck up.
Strictly comparing this film to her past films, then it's probably not her best in terms of pushing her cardio limits, or genuine attempts at throat ejaculation.
I hate to burst people's bubbles, but even the ball snot hanging out of her nose isn't as impressive as one might think it is.
If you don't want me to ruin your fantasy, then stop reading because I'm about to.
The ball snot hanging outside of her nose didn't happen organically. She blew her nose. It's still awesome as hell compared to the average. But compared to her past work and compared to times in which a dude genuinely busted so hard, that it erupted through a girl's nostrils, as we witness the agony in her expression from the misery of her sinus cavity dealing with the abuse.
Still awesome but
I could be wrong about a specific observation. Is it me, or can Ema withstand fast intensity irama more frequently in general compared to Kitahara An (Gotou Miki) (Tachibana Shizune) (Tanimura Arisa)?
They both can withstand it, but it seems that Ema engages in fast intensity more often. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm hoping and praying Ema opened the floodgates for more of these.
EDIT: It seems to me that the studio is so damn grateful that an actress is willing to do an interracial film, that they are willing to negotiate to terms that favor the actress, and don't favor degenerates like myself.
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I think it's boko, from 凹 (ボコ), though I'm still not sure why they use 凹 (it's literally "concave", and the character clearly shows it) instead of 凸 (deko, デコ, "convex")
Anyway, I wanted to clarify: are you discussing MISM-435? Judging by the cover, it only has black dudes in it
AI (Grok) seems to explain it well, though, again, we should always take AI output with a grain of salt
I agree for her standard, it was underwhelming. I still have Anav-007 Ai Kiyama’s masterpiece far above this work for pure throat destruction. Kiyama’s ability to hold her breath for far longer is also more impressive. She will literally be still (without the need to scream and wriggle around like Emma) and be facefucked for hours on end.
Yeah, there's a white guy in it also who's not on the cover.
I think we need to take a moment to talk seriously about DDFF-049 Iramachio Guinea Pig Tachibana Shizune.
At what point do things go too far? Does someone have to die on set? Because I believe we are heading in that direction. And if not, we have already seen AV actresses commit suicide, and no doubt scenes like this will help.
I am referring to the scenes where the young woman is being injected with liquid directly into her throat using a catheter… I can’t believe we’ve reached the point where I’m writing that. Perhaps it is fake, maybe I am naive to believe everything I see, but let’s just suppose for a moment that it’s real, or even partly real. There is no way that could possibly be safe, I don’t care how many medical professionals are on set.
I am going to pre-empt the argument that she is enjoying it. She is being tortured, let’s be honest. I have to wonder if there reaches a point where ‘enjoying’ something so dangerous and excruciating can only happen to someone who has lost their mental agency, and perhaps the ability to consent. It has reached a point where we are watching people being tortured, snuff films, let’s be honest here.
I’m not writing this to lecture; although I do believe, as consumers, we do have a passive ethical culpability in what’s happening here, and what’s happening to ourselves from gaining pleasure from this. But I am writing mostly to figure out… does anyone feel the same as me.
I think it’s time for me to detox…
At what point do things go too far? Does someone have to die on set? Because I believe we are heading in that direction. And if not, we have already seen AV actresses commit suicide, and no doubt scenes like this will help.
I am referring to the scenes where the young woman is being injected with liquid directly into her throat using a catheter… I can’t believe we’ve reached the point where I’m writing that. Perhaps it is fake, maybe I am naive to believe everything I see, but let’s just suppose for a moment that it’s real, or even partly real. There is no way that could possibly be safe, I don’t care how many medical professionals are on set.
I am going to pre-empt the argument that she is enjoying it. She is being tortured, let’s be honest. I have to wonder if there reaches a point where ‘enjoying’ something so dangerous and excruciating can only happen to someone who has lost their mental agency, and perhaps the ability to consent. It has reached a point where we are watching people being tortured, snuff films, let’s be honest here.
I’m not writing this to lecture; although I do believe, as consumers, we do have a passive ethical culpability in what’s happening here, and what’s happening to ourselves from gaining pleasure from this. But I am writing mostly to figure out… does anyone feel the same as me.
I think it’s time for me to detox…
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I understand the concern—safety absolutely matters. But we should be careful not to turn emotionally compelling claims into conclusions without evidence.
There’s no official tracking of suicide rates among JAV performers.
So claims of a “pattern” are not statistical—they’re based on forum lists, anecdotes, and repetition.
If this were widespread, we’d expect:
That simply isn’t there.
A major flaw is category mixing, which inflates the perception of a trend.
Names often include:
Example:
This alone undermines the credibility of these lists.
Some names labeled as “suicide” were never confirmed—or explicitly ruled out.
Example:
That’s not a minor error—it fundamentally distorts the narrative.
This is a classic echo chamber:
But there’s still no primary verification.
Even if a few cases are real, that doesn’t prove:
Suicide is multi-factorial:
Reducing it to one cause is an oversimplification.
To claim JAV is “dangerous,” you’d need to show:
But we don’t have that.
For context:
To prove a real issue, you’d need:
Neither exists in credible form
So any comparison being implied is mathematically unsupported.
If we look at an industry where the issue is documented:
Even there, when adjusted for population:
By contrast, JAV:
We should also be careful about how we interpret risk vs. agency.
Top 5 Most Dangerous Recreational Activities (by fatality rate)
By that logic, one could argue participants have “lost agency” and require intervention to prevent “exotic suicide.”
But we don’t—because:
Risk ≠ coercion
Agency still exists
Industries generally evolve toward self-preservation.
That doesn’t mean abuse never happens—only that it’s unlikely to be the core model.
Concern is valid.
But the conclusion—that JAV has a significant suicide problem driven by the industry—is not supported by reliable evidence.
And at the same time:
People should remain vigilant about coercion, abuse, and consent in any industry.
1) There’s no reliable dataset
There’s no official tracking of suicide rates among JAV performers.
So claims of a “pattern” are not statistical—they’re based on forum lists, anecdotes, and repetition.
If this were widespread, we’d expect:
- consistent Japanese media coverage
- agency statements
- multiple independent confirmations
That simply isn’t there.
2) These lists mix unrelated categories
A major flaw is category mixing, which inflates the perception of a trend.
Names often include:
- JAV actresses
- gravure idols
- AV-adjacent talent
- sometimes completely unrelated entertainers
Example:
- Nozomi Momoi
- Frequently cited
- Reality: murder victim, not suicide
This alone undermines the credibility of these lists.
3) Causes of death are misclassified
Some names labeled as “suicide” were never confirmed—or explicitly ruled out.
Example:
- Hotaru Akane
- Often rumored as suicide
- Reality: suicide ruled out
That’s not a minor error—it fundamentally distorts the narrative.
4) Rumors get recycled until they appear factual
This is a classic echo chamber:
- A name appears on one forum
- Gets copied elsewhere
- Reposted without sources
- Eventually treated as “known fact”
But there’s still no primary verification.
5) Even real cases don’t prove causation
Even if a few cases are real, that doesn’t prove:
Suicide is multi-factorial:
- mental health
- personal life
- finances
- relationships
Reducing it to one cause is an oversimplification.
6) Population comparison (what the data would need to show)
To claim JAV is “dangerous,” you’d need to show:
But we don’t have that.
For context:
- Japan’s general suicide rate is roughly ~12–18 per 100,000 people annually (varies by year)
To prove a real issue, you’d need:
- total JAV population (denominator)
- verified deaths (numerator)
Neither exists in credible form
So any comparison being implied is mathematically unsupported.
7) Compare to industries with documented patterns
If we look at an industry where the issue is documented:
- South Korean entertainment (K-pop / acting)
- Multiple confirmed cases
- Consistent reporting
- Known contributing factors (public pressure, cyberbullying, agency control)
Even there, when adjusted for population:
- It’s still debated whether rates exceed the general population
- But at least there is real data to analyze
By contrast, JAV:
- no centralized data
- no consistent verification
- mostly forum-driven claims
8) Perspective: risk exists in many voluntary activities
We should also be careful about how we interpret risk vs. agency.
Top 5 Most Dangerous Recreational Activities (by fatality rate)
- Annapurna I – ~31.9%
- Nanga Parbat – ~20.3%
- K2 – ~12%
- BASE jumping – ~1 in 60 lifetime risk
- Mount Everest – ~1–4%
By that logic, one could argue participants have “lost agency” and require intervention to prevent “exotic suicide.”
But we don’t—because:
Risk ≠ coercion
Agency still exists
9) Incentives matter
Industries generally evolve toward self-preservation.
- Harm, scandal, death → bad for business
- A system built on coercion would be unstable long-term
- Not everyone is complicit—patterns would surface clearly
That doesn’t mean abuse never happens—only that it’s unlikely to be the core model.
Final point (brevity incarnate)
- These lists mix categories, misclassify deaths, and recycle rumors
- There is no statistical evidence vs. population baseline
- A few tragic cases ≠ systemic pattern
Concern is valid.
But the conclusion—that JAV has a significant suicide problem driven by the industry—is not supported by reliable evidence.
And at the same time:
People should remain vigilant about coercion, abuse, and consent in any industry.
The catherer play is shocking, and definitely not for everyone, but i doubt it's actually as dangerous as you describe. Uncomfortable for sure, probably painful but that's kind of the point. Remember though, there is a lot behind the scenes we don't see- I'm sure everyone involved is fully aware of what's happening. With amateur production i would be more worried, but Dogma is a big studio, i would be surprised if they would do the kind of extreme acts they are known for without taking precautions
Made an account because I needed to rant about MISM-435...
One of the black guys was terribly out of shape. The white guy had a tiny dick too. At that point, it would genuinely have been an improvement to let Yusuke handle the entire scene by himself.
Also, terrible camera angles that mostly showed us hairy man-ass from behind. There was minimal usage of side-view angles to showcase the throat bulge, and none at all when it was time for the throatpie.
Emma has such great throat skills, but I feel she's constantly underutilised and mismanaged by scenes like this that simply aren't directed well. She has so much throat filmography, but few of her movies have risen above her debut in MISM-325 (CKCK-011 was a strong contender though).
Sidenote: too much vaginal sex (but to be fair, anything that isn't 100% throat isn't ideal for me)
One of the black guys was terribly out of shape. The white guy had a tiny dick too. At that point, it would genuinely have been an improvement to let Yusuke handle the entire scene by himself.
Also, terrible camera angles that mostly showed us hairy man-ass from behind. There was minimal usage of side-view angles to showcase the throat bulge, and none at all when it was time for the throatpie.
Emma has such great throat skills, but I feel she's constantly underutilised and mismanaged by scenes like this that simply aren't directed well. She has so much throat filmography, but few of her movies have risen above her debut in MISM-325 (CKCK-011 was a strong contender though).
Sidenote: too much vaginal sex (but to be fair, anything that isn't 100% throat isn't ideal for me)
This is actually a really good point. The JAV industry is aware that a lot of the audience has sadistic fantasies. Actresses are painfully aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if the actress is using her acting ability to exaggerate any pain/discomfort she's feeling. In fact, I'd bet on it.
The last thing studios want is their stars burning out or worse. They'll utilize all kinds of sleight of hand to give the audience their fix yet mitigating any potential harm to their stars.
I think when girls do these aggressive scenes they plan on leaving after. Like kick it up to 1000 then bounce, for example the lovely and great Ayaka mochiziuki started off sensual then did a last few year stretch of going crazy then rode into the sunset. I can see the same for tachibane. Her looks are also enough to find a rich banker husband
That's a good point. However, there's a stark difference in career filmographies between Ayaka Mochizuki and Kitahara An (Gotou Miki) (Tachibana Shizune) (Tanimura Arisa)
Her filmography is pretty tiny, and her overall irrumatio ratio is insanely high.
According to javtrailers, she only has 9 films total.
According to Javlibrary she has 38 total
Just to make it clear, Mochizuki has 36 pages worth of listed films. Kitahara An has 2 pages of films.
Let that sink in for a minute.
Mochizuki's first film was in 2019.
Kitahara An's first film was 2014
Kitahara An's first genuine irrumatio film was MISM-269 released May 2023
Here's my theory:
From 2014 to 2023, Kitahara An had a reliable sugar daddy, that allowed her to do a JAV film once in a while. 2023, that relationship ended, and now Kitahara An is trying to make up for lost time.
Ayaka Mochizuki on the other hand prioritized her career and finances, and kicked it up a notch near the end, knowing that she had rich man that's about to marry her.
My theory is based on a western porn star who I thought was too beautiful for porn, and who disappeared from porn for years, and then suddenly came back to porn on the onset of the pandemic.
My theory was that the pandemic either ended her relationship with a sugar daddy or ruined her business or income source. Too much of a coincidence that a girl who looked too beautiful for porn, and has left porn years ago, suddenly ends up back in porn when the pandemic started peaking.
The rationale behind my theory is that girls who are well taken care of, are too lazy to work hard, or their man limits the amount of porn they can do or even makes them quit cold turkey like my theory about the western porn star.
Completely agree. This reminds me
Of another throat goat, but in the west, Eliza Ibarra, who also left the game after giving us many throat classics and great scenes in general to be high client escort. Her prices are at 5-10k now, which is the demand she’s getting and on IG she’s always in a new country every few weeks being spoiled with gifts , outings etc. ah to be rich
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