JAV Gossips

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SOD's Nameless (STARS-199) marketing plan blown up by ex-client
SOD takes an unprecedented marketing gimmick to promote what looks like their top debutante for 2020, in STARS-100 by claiming they have to emergency-release the vid before she could get a (porn) name.

But the plan has a big hole's blown by an ex-client of hers. Turns out (or so was claim) Nameless was working the regular shift at a "Salon" (http://www.zero-one-web.com/) under the name ゆき. I can't say for sure exactly what sexual service is provided, but a client can count on achieving ejaculation and also definitely vaginal penetration is banned.

For now, I can't tell if the "exposure" has any real impact on SOD and/or "Nameless" but it's clear demonstration that in 2020 Japan, studio keeping control of their marketing plans and idols keeping her privacy is impossibly difficult.


白石あこ Ako Shiraishi blast online bullies and blame them for her previous retirement
@shiraishi_ako on twitter on 2020/04/26 blasted online bullies for their nasty comments against AV idols and invasion of privacy. And cite online bullying and fake scandals for her retiring (as 平沢すず Hirasawa Suzu). Her previous career was Jan-June 2018. As Shiraishi she started only in Feb 2020. A particular accusation was that she was a easy slut in high school but she denies it and claimed she was in the cooking club with very few male members and never dated anyone in the same school.

It seems there's a whole group of netizens who make it a hobby to abuse and invade privacy of AV idols. Japanese people has a well-deserved reputation as polite, kind and considerate. But I think there's a nasty and mean side to some) Japanese personality that come out unchecked thanks to anonymity of internet. Most shamelessly they exploit their own anonymity to violate these lovely ladies who give it all up for the enjoyment of millions of horny men.

 

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Guys I don't want to be topic police. But let's keep to actual gossips/news itself and tight discussion of gossips/news. Lesbianism both as vids (BBAN-, LZPL-, CESD- and more) and "real" sexual orientation of some idols are good discussion topic, but not always in this thread (unless it's current news/gossips). Open a new one, or better to revive one of several old threads.

Homosexuality in Asia/Japan history/culture/morals is even better topic, I have my own thoughts but I didn't join in the discussion because of topic.

Look I wish every idol would do uncensored, lesbian, and anal creampie too. But I myself would not suck cock, take anything up my butthole and mostly don't lick pussies. So I'm pretty thankful and appreciative for each and every lady who agree to get naked and perform some limited sex acts so I can fap.

 

[Negan]

I myself would not suck cock, take anything up my butthole and mostly don't lick pussies. So I'm pretty thankful and appreciative for each and every lady who agree to get naked and perform some limited sex acts so I can fap.

Apart from not licking pussy, I agree 100%.

JAV girl's shouldn't have to do lesbian if they have no genuine interest.

 

[fenton]

But the plan has a big hole's blown by an ex-client of hers. Turns out (or so was claim) Nameless was working the regular shift at a "Salon" (http://www.zero-one-web.com/) under the name ゆき. I can't say for sure exactly what sexual service is provided, but a client can count on achieving ejaculation and also definitely vaginal penetration is banned.

It's a pink salon, only blowjobs are available. No sex.

It's not surprising. Many AV actresses also do prostitution. So do many western porn stars.

 

[cloudmain]

Also it looks like Nonohara Nazuna ののはら なずな retired. I heard she was having problems with studios and seemed pretty upset on twitter about it.

 

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guys, i found this interesting video with AV actress, and according to her, the industry is already passed the peak...

Gonna borrow the excellent recommendation by @pukimai of this vid. It's perfectly subbed in English so you can watch it yourself and don't need my summarizing/translating.

But one huge thing hit me in the face but I guess most of you won't notice or understand it. She said a lot of women join JAV industry because she owe money, e.g. by spending too much money in host clubs. Most of you are aware of hostess clubs, in which male customer pay money to have a female hostess (or two) to sit and talk and order overpriced drinks. Sometimes (but not always) the customer can even take a hostess out of the club on a romp, maybe even to a love hotel.

What I learned only very recently there are host clubs in which the gender roles are reversed. Female customer pay money to have a male host as companion. You know there's the stereotype Japanese men aren't romantic or nice to their girlfriend/wife. So a woman (even a married woman) may want to treated very nicely by a very "handsome" man, maybe sing or recite romantic poems or do some elaborate tea thing or fruit/snacks. I put handsome in quotes, because they look like women at first, actually when my wife look over my shoulder she thought I was watching some hot girl video and I had a hard time convincing her the host is a man. Anyway my impression is these are (mostly) not sexual transactions so a rich wife spend her (husband's?) money in a host club doesn't qualify as cheating. Right now the top most famous male host is constantly flaunting his luxurious lifestyle and 300 millions yen per year income, plus tons of expensive gifts. His catchphrase is "I earn more in an hour then you (average Japanese) in a year".

So it's quite a shock... but then thinking about it... it's not surprising at all... women get addicted to host club, spending and gifting beyond her means and then end up as AV performers to cover her debt and pay for more host club visits. (next we will have people asking if foreigner can become male host and get paid to be with Japanese women, hahaha give it a try)

 

[kharo88]

Gonna borrow the excellent recommendation by @pukimai of this vid. It's perfectly subbed in English so you can watch it yourself and don't need my summarizing/translating.

But one huge thing hit me in the face but I guess most of you won't notice or understand it. She said a lot of women join JAV industry because she owe money, e.g. by spending too much money in host clubs. Most of you are aware of hostess clubs, in which male customer pay money to have a female hostess (or two) to sit and talk and order overpriced drinks. Sometimes (but not always) the customer can even take a hostess out of the club on a romp, maybe even to a love hotel.

What I learned only very recently there are host clubs in which the gender roles are reversed. Female customer pay money to have a male host as companion. You know there's the stereotype Japanese men aren't romantic or nice to their girlfriend/wife. So a woman (even a married woman) may want to treated very nicely by a very "handsome" man, maybe sing or recite romantic poems or do some elaborate tea thing or fruit/snacks. I put handsome in quotes, because they look like women at first, actually when my wife look over my shoulder she thought I was watching some hot girl video and I had a hard time convincing her the host is a man. Anyway my impression is these are (mostly) not sexual transactions so a rich wife spend her (husband's?) money in a host club doesn't qualify as cheating. Right now the top most famous male host is constantly flaunting his luxurious lifestyle and 300 millions yen per year income, plus tons of expensive gifts. His catchphrase is "I earn more in an hour then you (average Japanese) in a year".

So it's quite a shock... but then thinking about it... it's not surprising at all... women get addicted to host club, spending and gifting beyond her means and then end up as AV performers to cover her debt and pay for more host club visits. (next we will have people asking if foreigner can become male host and get paid to be with Japanese women, hahaha give it a try)

Sounds like many Japanese are in a real sorry state. Which means that JAV will probably continue to flourish.

 

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Sounds like many Japanese are in a real sorry state. Which means that JAV will probably continue to flourish.

Well don't take anything I said to support that idea. I only point out the reason (maybe a not-insignificant reason) some women went to this industry is spending too much money for a fake boyfriend experience.

She did say more girls are joining JAV but she gave that as a reason for falling salary. And of course falling salary means it's less attractive to new girls.

If you read every line she said in the interview, regarding current trends of JAV: 1. idol income are falling; 2. number of fresh faces are up; 3. fans are paying less for JAV; etc. Her own summary statement for industry trend is negative. But if you take all her points, I think the sum total is mixed.

My own judgement: pandemic and poor economy and uncertainty of the Olympics is shifting a bigger portion of declining economy to porn. Also fewer people will be dating, fucking, marrying, having kids. Drive up further the need for alternative to human-to-human contact. Porn has an advantage compared to prostitution during pandemic.

All I can say is, JAV will continue to exist. Will there be more or less of it? Will it be better or worse? Will there be many or fewer hot fresh faces? Will there be many or fewer mega stars? Will there be more or less production budget? All these I hesitate to guess.

 

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I would love to hear from a manager in one of the big production companies or from one of the largest AV talent agencies - as I think they will give a more nuanced look on things. I think that the interview is quite good and enlightening but I think her views and schedule is very normal for a Indy actress. I'm more curious about big Av idols under contract.

 

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I would love to hear from a manager in one of the big production companies or from one of the largest AV talent agencies - as I think they will give a more nuanced look on things. I think that the interview is quite good and enlightening but I think her views and schedule is very normal for a Indy actress. I'm more curious about big Av idols under contract.

You can forget an honest hard-hitting journalistic interview. It's not in Asian DNA, it's not in show biz DNA, it's not in adult industry DNA. It helps no one, not even you and I, to break out any "more nuanced look on things". Everyone, especially journalists, youtuber, interviewer, big AV idols, "indy" actress, everyone has an ulterior motive.

Anyone follow the Star Wars on-going drama? With the power struggle between Disney, LucasFilm etc? Do you actually believe any one reporting or interview as honest/trustworthy?

 

[Blade Runner]

You can forget an honest hard-hitting journalistic interview. It's not in Asian DNA, it's not in show biz DNA, it's not in adult industry DNA. It helps no one, not even you and I, to break out any "more nuanced look on things". Everyone, especially journalists, youtuber, interviewer, big AV idols, "indy" actress, everyone has an ulterior motive.

Anyone follow the Star Wars on-going drama? With the power struggle between Disney, LucasFilm etc? Do you actually believe any one reporting or interview as honest/trustworthy?

Hard-hitting journalism, Star Wars, Disney, LucasFilm, and JAV on the same website.

 

[Veltiel]

By the way guys, Ishihara Rio has deleted her Instagram and Twitter. Would it be because she violated the site policy or something?

 

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By the way guys, Ishihara Rio has deleted her Instagram and Twitter. Would it be because she violated the site policy or something?

That's a reliable sign that her career will see some change. Common reasons are:
- Her working in adult industry was discovered by her family
- She will or has retired
- Serious health problem
- Legal troubles (e.g. drugs)
- She left/cancel contract with her agency, (but she may join another agency maybe with a name change)

 

[Veltiel]

That's a reliable sign that her career will see some change. Common reasons are:
- Her working in adult industry was discovered by her family
- She will or has retired
- Serious health problem
- Legal troubles (e.g. drugs)
- She left/cancel contract with her agency, (but she may join another agency maybe with a name change)

Oh. So it's true that the majority of AV actresses keep their work as a secret. Still, I'm kinda surprised by the number of new AV debuts each month, like, these girls are really easy to find through AV databases, their families must know how to use internet....

 

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Oh. So it's true that the majority of AV actresses keep their work as a secret. Still, I'm kinda surprised by the number of new AV debuts each month, like, these girls are really easy to find through AV databases, their families must know how to use internet....

Actually it's not super hard to keep a short career (under 2 years, less than 20 vids). Unless a girl is unlucky enough that her dad (or even mom!) is big consumer of JAV. NONE of her personal details are real anyway, so a suspicious parent can only search by picture, mostly goes by face. Well a mother may know what her grown-up daughter's tits and pussy look like ... (common for Japanese family member of same gender to take bath together). If a girl has very distinct birthmark she has to think about it before joining JAV. A few idols have quite distinctive voice, if a parent should somehow get the video or watch a trailer...

 

[Veltiel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I used to think that sites like Javlibrary and AV Idol Listing X City had the whole list of new girls debuting each month. If a worried father/mother wants to know, those sites would be terribly useful, but then again, I guess I'm wrong to think those sites have a complete list. Maybe even the AV producers have their own sites that are too niche for even us, western AV fans.

I wonder how many debut girls is missing a normie like me TwT.

 

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In theory yes you are right. If a parent id determined to find out if his/her daughter is in porn, it would be inevitable to find the truth.

In practice, how many parents would browse JAV sites regularly to check for their daughter's face showing up on the covers. Way way way below 1%, I'd bet. Even if you count a girl's extended family, the chance that it would blow up is still small enough. Say a 23 year old debutant may have a cousin who's 15 year old boy who's obsessed with JAV (quite a likely scenario) he may notice her on a cover. But it's unlikely he will make a fuss about it. Exposing his cousin as sex worker does him no good and is against traditional Japanese values. In Japan there's no punishment for keeping secrets and no reward for exposing others. Even a father if he discovers his daughter is a porn star may choose to keep quiet about it. It's within the range of response for a Japanese father.

Of course small chance still means it does happen. So if a young performer suddenly and permanently retire that may be the reason. Also some old timer idols if you look into her history many of them had a phase they retire and then unretire or just quietly disappear for a few months. So these things do happen but chance is low enough that many girls, driven by situations and/or by choice would take the risk.

 

[R1k0]

If jav is so taboo in Japan; why is it so popular and ubiquitous?
Why do so many beautiful young women get drawn to it?(money of course).

Is money so hard to come by in japan?

Just asking...

What do you mean "JAV taboo in Japan", simply parents not will be proud when get to know that their daughter shooting in porno (i think in America or Europe the same). "Many beautiful young women" - where?

 

[R1k0]

I do not understand your question I think...

"where?" in JAV.

But you did answere my question with shame of parents. I think maybe it was my stupid question.

Although I think it is unfair for jav stars to decide to remove all their movies. The stars should keep making money from their movies and so should the studio. If you decide to do jav then live with it because it will never go away.

If you delete old movies it will just end up lowering the pay for new girls.

Japanese porno industry it's a kind of phenomenon which is not in any country in the world and say that JAV taboo in Japan it's a little strange, but in the future everything may be, unfortunately many things change for the worse.
About my question, I'm not satisfied with the quality of the new girls. Yes, still there are new cute girls, but very rare appears really beautiful girls (IMHO), it was better before. But I recently started to get involved in JAV, and I have enough of what is, you can always find a new beautiful girl from the past.

 

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Trusty Playno1 gave us couple gossips, hope to calm down nervous fans.
1. S1 down to 5 active idols??? Rara Anzai no new vids?
Worry not, not too much at least, S1 is losing a few top talents to Faleno, But Rara Anzai disappeared from S1 listing is just a quirk of their policy of only putting idol in listing if she has a current vid coming up, but for probably related to Covid-19, her vid is delayed, along with many studios and idols. So her face is not on the S1 active list for now.

SOP for AV production is this; filming, editing, mosaic, censor-approval, release. The whole process takes 3-4 months. Since the lock-down, various steps of the JAV "supply chain" has become delayed or blocked up, so now we start to see new vids releases being affected.

2. Huge number of idol stopped updating SNS
Many fans like to follow idol's SNS, like Twitter, IG, now even TikTok. As seen in the past, if an idol stop posting to her SNS is a warning of career change. But current wave of no-update is just a temporary effect of Covid lockdown.

E.g. 天川そら Sora Amakawa, she was never super keen to post on SNS anyway. Now lockdown has temporarily suspended any AV promotional activity, she just got too lazy to put on make-up, get out to do anything interesting, and invent something interesting to post on SNS. It's too tempting to just stay home all day and play Animal Crossing.

Note that this is hinting many idols consider SNS as unpaid work, not as some fans imagine as a window into idol's honest and private life.

Some commenters also add that Japanese netizens like to post rude and insults on any celeb, esp. AV idol's SNS. This has a negative effect on idol's morale and so many idols rely on agency and studio to craft their SNS messages. It's carefully managed to promote vid sales and other income-generating activities while minimize chance to be insulted. Also affected recently by net-bullying are 白葉りこ, 坂道みる,桜空ももand "Nameless" of SOD.

3. Arina Hashimoto fundraiser aborted due to Covid
橋本ありな Arina Hashimoto's campaign to raise fund for her gravue production (presuming going to faraway location such as Okinawa) is aborted. The money already pledged will be refunded to the fans. The target was 5 million yens, on the first day more than half was already raised but actually it failed expectation. I guess the planners were expected the funding will be front-loaded. Sure enough until now the prject is still short by 1.8 mil, do the math the whole period from day 2 to now was no more than 0.7 mil. So with 30 days to go, the fundraiser was called off. Covid is definitely a factor because consumer confidence is down. Esp. the top level contribution, which will buy you the experience of walking down a church with Arina in bride's gown, cost 1.5 mil. So one funder could make up most of the shortfall already. But now it seems almost impossible such a "prince on white horse" will show up. So better to abandon the project and blame it on Covid then to face the embarrassment of missing the target.