JAV Gossips

[ding73ding]

I started a long post addressing Koharu's crisis and how we the fans feel or do about it...

But until (if ever) I finish it, I want to mention something that Koharu disclosed on her social media months before. It's not directly related but well here goes:

At home in her own private time, she does practices to perfect a skill that's market-demanded for JAV: female ejaculation. Now now... sure a lot of people (especially women) may want to ask how to acquire or improve this skill. I would want to know too, but I have no answer and you probably won't get anywhere asking her. Anyway, female ejaculation is not a common thing, especially female ejaculation on demand and that alone means she's devoted to AV as a career.

 

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[jwlim80]

At home in her own private time, she does practices to perfect a skill that's market-demanded for JAV: female ejaculation. Now now... sure a lot of people (especially women) may want to ask how to acquire or improve this skill. I would want to know too, but I have no answer and you probably won't get anywhere asking her. Anyway, female ejaculation is not a common thing, especially female ejaculation on demand and that alone means she's devoted to AV as a career.

Which brings up the point of why retire at all ? And this is the part where I present this tweet :-



"From time to time, I have an urge to see my elder sister's face. There are things I want to say to her. But I don't think she cares enough to reply to me.
I've always been hurt. I'm always in pain.
I'm always on the verge of tears"

If she is speaking from her heart, that means she treasure her family. She is in a dilemma where she had to make a choice between the job or her family and that is driving her to despair and depression.

Perhaps her management had noticed the symptoms of depression and made the choice of retirement for her as they do not want blood on their hand. Who knows if the girl will breakdown in the midst of a shooting or event and lead to things getting out of control ?

From that blog posting, we can tell things between her and her family did not manage to improve much and she had turn to her twitter followers for support.

 

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[cavarra]

The plot is important to me. If it's a teacher gang banged by her students, that's fine. I will still not watch it because I prefer 1 on 1 or harem. Among Koharu last movies, WANZ-754 or KAWD-912 are the type of movies I'm fine with (I didn't see them but judging by the trailers). But movies like KAWD-807, hell no. I don't want to see ugly fat dudes on screen. That kind of r*** or chikan movies, even if it's not "hardcore" (for JAV or porn in general), I stay far away. That might help weirdos that look like those dudes to jerk off, but I take care of myself in real life enough to not be that kind of losers. Harsh words, maybe, but hey, not every JAV "fan" has to be fond of seeing girls slapped and humiliated on camera to enjoy a movie. Because yeah, even if I don't know the actresses in person, I want them to be happy with their job and not ending mentally fucked up because they had to be slapped, deep throated by 15 dudes to earn money. To be honest, the girls who do that usually aren't beautiful so they are at the bottom of the JAV actresses list. It's not a theory, just browse the movies and you'll not see a girl like Yua Mikami or Rion being molested and slapped before being deep throated to the point of vomiting.

So, I get it, I'm not the typical JAV "fan", and I'm glad about it to be fair. And no, I'm not a feminist or anything like that, I just want people to be safe, no matter what kind of job they do.
It's kinda off topic (sorry about that), but it can be related to what I've just said. I've seen members from Akiba talking about hardcore JAV (with loli) saying "this is the best movie ever". Then, tons of conversations about some members going to sex services in Japan where you can masturbate behind a glass with a girl on the other side. [I then decided to leave the chat because I definitively around weirdos]. Some guys are so fucked up that one even said "Wow, the girl sent me a message and want to see me again", thinking the girl liked him (the establishment probably takes your phone number). Of course she wants ! If you come back, she will earn money. She doesn't care about you, you are just a customer (and she probably wants to get out of that job as quick as possible).

Finally, about the girls who do hardcore stuff, just by looking at them, you can see how fucked they are (or check their twitter accounts). If Koharu is suffering from depression without even completely crossed the red line (my red line), it's easy to understand that the situation is probably far worst for that category of actresses. A mentaly stable actress would not want to feature in movies where she's brutalized. That lead to the conclusion : the mental state of fans of that kind of stuff is ass fucked as the actresses'.

Long message, sorry about that. I took the opportunity of the concern about Koharu to talk about the industry and the dark side more globably.

Keep in mind that it's just my opinion as a JAV consumer. I didn't write it to start a conflit with anyone.

Too much armchair psychology and bigotry here. I wonder on which basis someone who like a movie featuring an old man is "weirdo" and someone liking teachers-raping movies is "sane". I could easily argue the opposite with some pointy arguments (if I would play that part).

Also almost every actress in JAV shoot "hardcore" contents (not very hardcore for me, but apparently very hardcore and dangerous for their mental stability according to your views). You stay away from movies like KAWD-807, but this does not change the fact Koharu has shot them. And the same with Rion, eg. SNIS-787 features a lot of the ugly dudes you hate, gangbanging and bukkaking her. And she shot r*** and molestation movies as well.

Finally, I don't remember many girls being "slapped", this is typical of western porn and it is EXTREMELY rare in JAV. Actually JAV is very soft even in its r*** movies, so raising concerns about actresses being slapped or being "brutalized" makes very little sense to me.

 

[Lodestar]

Yeah An Tsujimoto retiring was unsurprising to me. She always had that look on her face like she hated being a pornstar to the point where she couldn't convincingly fake like other girls.

Personally I think the JAV industry with the management is just better at hiding the problems than Western porn. It wouldn't surprise me if the majority of girls had a drinking or drug habit and if a large group had problems with depression/self-harm like Koharu Suzuki. Many of them with stories of childhood trouble.

I'm not here to white knight for these girls and I'm not about to stop watching... it's a performance. I'll keep following releases by the girls who give performances I enjoy. I hope they can figure stuff out... and it must be nice for the girls who become big stars who get the big paychecks. It's not about porn for them but the lifestyle the money from porn brings.

 

[jwlim80]

From my observation, any big agency tend to dump a girl when they spot signs of trouble with her.

We have Aso Nozomu who have issues with drugs, got into a dry spell and then rant about her manager checking on her in the middle of the night.
Tia who have a rebellious streak and tends to shoot her mouth off on her Twitter. She is now sitting cold.
And now Koharu here, who is posting about her disorder online shortly after her retirement announcement.

 

[jwlim80]

2nd entry interpreted
http://himekoha.livedoor.blog/archives/11240904.html :-

I was in 4th grade when I was first molested.

During 4th grade, I enrolled in a cram school in preparation for my middle school entry examination.
It's not that I'm was unable to cope with my lessons.
I might have a bit of trouble with my math, but I've always score full points in regards to my favorite Japanese classes that I thought of myself as being somewhere among the top of class.

And thus I was accompanied by my mother for a try out session at the cram school.
The moment I entered the classroom, everyone starts to stare at me intensely that I lowered my head instinctively.
The atmosphere is truly different from that of my school. Truly.
Fear struck me all of a sudden.
Once the printout have been distributed, everyone raise their pencil.

But what's this ?

I tried to follow the motion. But the questions on the printout had me stuck.
I do not understand. I do not understand the question asked. I don't ever understand a single word.
I tried my best to focus on the printout. And yet I still do not understand anything.
I was sweating non stop. My hands shaking uncontrollably.
This is really different from what was taught at school, truly.

One by one everybody in class prepare to their answers evaluated by the Teacher.
Even as everyone of them gets in line,
I find myself unable to answer even a single question.
My mother next to me whispered "Don't you understand ?" All I could do is to give her an expression of helplessness in reply.
In return, I saw a troubled perplexed look on her face.
I got anxious.
I return to the question, I give it another look, I still do not understand.

Before I knew it, I was crying.
Sobbing out loud even.
But nobody gives any attention to the bawling me.
Everyone had already moves on to the next question and concentrating hard on it.
I was in anguish, being unable to meet Mother's expectation in answering a simple question on what is suppose to be my favourite Japanese.

Now about my molester, that was when I was begin to settle into cram school.
To get back from cram school, I need to take the 8pm train for 5 minutes and exit at the 2nd station.
I still recall the incident vividly.
The man was standing behind me when he was started groping my fully clothed bottom.
Why ?
I tried to retaliate but my body was fear stricken.
I broke out in cold sweat.
Why am I being fondled by a stranger ?
My mind is in a blank.
Minutes feels like hours as he continue his caress.
I can't do anything besides breaking out in a run as I alight at the station nearest to my home.
I can't even tell my family about everything after the mad dash back.

That was just the start of many such cases.
I'm not sure if it's the same person or others like him, it's not even helping if I change my train or the timing that I took.
There was a day where I drag my exhausted body from cram school onto the train.
And soon there was that familiar feel again on my buttocks.

Deja vu

I lowered my head and just blank out.

About everything taught today....
I need to revise my notes, keep them in my head...

The guy keeps on fondling my defenceless back and bottom
I can even feel his heavy breathing behind me.
As he press his crotch towards me.

What's in my mind all this while is the test I will be taking tomorrow at school.
Mother will give me a hell if I don't get anything less than perfect.

Acting as if nothing was out of the ordinary, I got off at my usual station.
Turning back, the door of the rush hour train had already closed.
Both the train and the platform are packed with people, I can't even tell who was the culprit that touched me.
But it doesn't matter anymore.
I find myself starting to "get used to" towards being fondled.
Perhaps that was then that I was getting conditioned to being sexually target that guy.
Being defenceless to everything, I just put everything out of my mind.

Even now, I find myself getting put off by the evening train crowds.
It just bring back to how I was.
That exhausted defenceless young self.

 

[paparoach408]

Yeah An Tsujimoto retiring was unsurprising to me. She always had that look on her face like she hated being a pornstar to the point where she couldn't convincingly fake like other girls.

she was fine with porn, until not by her choice her agency moved her contract from TeamZero to S1 and hated how they did it, and she didn't want to leave her comfort zone, so she said she'd retire when her contract expired

 

[ding73ding]

Hmmm... bottom grabbing on train? That's it? I mean yeah sure it's wrong and illegal but speaking as a non-Japanese, I'm un-sympathetic to Japan as a whole. There are so many wrongs in that story I don't even know where to begin. Japan so emphasize family, but they can't help their daughters deal with real world situation, in many countries parents wouldn't send a 10 year old girl by herself out after dark. They have a false faith in their low crime rate (defined as police reports) so they end up with damaged little girls who some of them end up in sex industry. I could be even more cynical but ok I will keep my mouth shut.

Next problem is why target 10 year old girls? I mean yeah I am a dirty old man too. But even if all the dirty old men could do all their dirty things freely, I wouldn't think 10 year old girls are that much at risk. I don't know maybe I am too skeptical of fake news... sorry guess I am jumping ahead. Mainstream media would have you believe the streets is crawling with pedophiles but I think in a normal decent society, mostly you would worry about young women, who are biologically mature (esp. tits) but mentally inexperienced and may be easily tricked.

But it really does seem Japanese streets are crawling with pedophiles and sexual deviants. What's the point of grabbing 10 year old ass? Definitely it's not for the creep's own pleasure, it's to cause mental pain and stress to others (the girl). What's worrying and disgusting is that a lot of JAV also reflects that, the real content of the porn isn't to give the man pleasure (goes without saying, we go by the model that the man is the predator, woman is the meat), it's to cause pain/discomfort/humiliation. Speaking as a dirty old man myself, I think that's pathological. Sure JAV has a role to give a harmless outlet to unhealthy fantasy but the way JAV does it seems to feed rather than control the pathological.

Anyway back to Koharu herself. I'm holding back on my other big-essay-post because maybe it's wiser to wait for more time and more posts rather than feed a big but unnecessary debate (says I). But here's my evolving thought:

BTW, a sidebar: Asia (including Japan) holds deep social stigma against mental illness (the kind that require psych med). The vast majority of Japanese would never even consider putting up a pic of psych med on social media. Side-side bar: Asia (especially Japan) suicide rate is high.

Koharu is known to write and write and write (not unlike me I am getting a feeling it's rather not that serious with her in reality, she just like to write as a therapy. She does have issues but if anything her issues are negatively affecting her AV career rather than the other way around (there are interest groups and even some AV fans who want to blame all wrongs to AV). How about this crazy thought, what she really need to work more AV, suck so much sperm into her pretty mouth she doesn't have time to feel pathetic, and stop popping those nasty psych meds. Ok sorry that's crazy and inappropriate ... maybe...

Anyway my point is her issues are not AV-derived, at least not directly. Social stigma against sex work is one thing but I mostly blame society not AV industry for it. Family and friends... well... it's pointless to assign blames, she and family need to work it out. Sad thing is many families can't work out their issues and there are are lot of misery going around. Compared to typical Asians, specifically Japanese girls, Koharu is very open and expressive about her issues. From my perspective, her real world condition is far better than average Japanese (men and women) and it's just her personality that she amplifies a normal level of misery to clinical depression and self-harm.

I enjoy many of her vids, and I feel sad that any girl I masturbate to is in emotional stress. But hey... end of the day, she needs to work things out on her own. Now... I'm going to my bedroom and re-watch (ahem) some of her vids.

 

[jwlim80]

A side note, I had always been the AV girls as the Karayuki-san for the digital age where many of them, like their forebears, are rejected by their family.

The bigger of the AV girls are essentially Oiran

 

[kharo88]

Next problem is why target 10 year old girls? I mean yeah I am a dirty old man too. But even if all the dirty old men could do all their dirty things freely, I wouldn't think 10 year old girls are that much at risk. I don't know maybe I am too skeptical of fake news... sorry guess I am jumping ahead. Mainstream media would have you believe the streets is crawling with pedophiles but I think in a normal decent society, mostly you would worry about young women, who are biologically mature (esp. tits) but mentally inexperienced and may be easily tricked.

But it really does seem Japanese streets are crawling with pedophiles and sexual deviants. What's the point of grabbing 10 year old ass? Definitely it's not for the creep's own pleasure...

10 year old girls are totally at risk of being sexually molested. I don't follow any news related to Japan (barring the ones mentioned on this site) but I do occasionally look up some news online and it seems like there's not a day that passes by that you hear about another case of arabs and/or blacks gang/raping women and girls, sometimes children that are 12 or around that age. Happens in many countries in Western Europe and Sweden nowadays. And arab grooming gangs have been a thing in the UK for decades now. So no, it's not hard to imagine that there are pedophiles in Japan too, maybe even more than one would think. And no, in a normal, decent society you wouldn't worry about young women, because if the society were truly normal and decent, you wouldn't have to worry about things like that. But as things stand now, there are definitely people who get off on grabbing a 10 year old child's ass and on doing a lot worse to them.

...it's to cause mental pain and stress to others (the girl). What's worrying and disgusting is that a lot of JAV also reflects that, the real content of the porn isn't to give the man pleasure (goes without saying, we go by the model that the man is the predator, woman is the meat), it's to cause pain/discomfort/humiliation. Speaking as a dirty old man myself, I think that's pathological. Sure JAV has a role to give a harmless outlet to unhealthy fantasy but the way JAV does it seems to feed rather than control the pathological.

What you describe here holds truth, but I think that mostly depends on the viewer. But I can totally see where the two coincide, that is, causing the woman pain is what gives the man pleasure. There are guys who get off on humiliating and being rough with women in bed. I used to have a friend who showed me a clip of a woman getting literally face fucked, ejaculated on her face, and then the guy pushed her head into the toilet and flushed while holding it there. And he said that that was one of the best things that he'd ever seen and that every woman deserved that.

Also, whether porn helps live out one's fantasies so that he doesn't do that IRL (like r***) or just serves to perpetuate, normalise or even encourage him to seek it out IRL it depends on the person himself.

 

[cavarra]

It's just that to me, actresses are not a peace of meat but human, so I care to a certain point about their well being. I like to watch movies with an attractive girl smiling and "seducing" me, the viewer. A forced smile is easily noticeable. An Tsujimoto was a good point by Ding73ding. Another example : Minako Komukai. Isn't obsvious that she fucked up ?

About SNIS-787, I have it. Like I said, the production is different. Is she rushed to blow the guys or anything ? Nope. The actors aren't ikemen but they play salarymen. And I don't see any old toothless creepy dude.

For the brutal stuff, Dogma is a good example. It confirms my "theory" about the type of actresse.

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I care about their mental state as well, I just do not confuse facts vs fiction, and persona vs character. I just find weird arguing about the mental state of a porn actress on the basis of her performances. It is not that easy. Minako Komukai was known to be a very troubled person even while she was filming her first vanilla movies, and even well before joining AV. And I am pretty sure An Tsujimoto is mentally stable (whatever she liked starring in JAV or not), as well as AIKA (another actress known for her non-smiling character) or "extreme" Marie Konishi from VRTM-040.

The fact you consider fine a gangbang of your favorite actress with ugly men (several of them regulars in the ugly-men-themed movies) just because there isn't the toothless guy, this makes your previous points very flawed and evanescent. I really find hard to understand what the border line is supposed to be, as it is becoming thinner and surprisingly elastic post after post. Is then the studio? The toothless guy occationally works for S1 as well (eg with Aika Yumeno in SNIS-127, but she smiles in the cover, so she was probably fine with those ugly dudes). And I wonder if making a blowjob to him is really more "disgusting" than being manhandled, heavily kissed and licked in every part of their bodies by the ugly and fat "Frogman" Taku Yoshimura (someone who worked virtually with everyone, including Yua Mikami).

Reality is, some girls have enough self-confidence to shoot the most hardcore scenes without having their lives affected, while others should have never joined JAV in the first place, especially considering once you join JAV you'll soon fuck ugly and old guys, shoot molestation and r*** movies, making deepthoat, licking male assholes and so on. Porn-complainer Asuka Hoshino worked only for two big companies, and shot the vanillier possible vanilla movies, but she looked very unconfortable from her first to her last movie, and probably her first movie will always be her biggest trauma. It should be the agencies'duty to skip some profiles, as they have not the strength and the awareness to start a career in AV. But pretending someone's mental state depends on fucking an ugly guy is pure science fiction.

 

[ding73ding]

she was fine with porn, until not by her choice her agency moved her contract from TeamZero to S1 and hated how they did it, and she didn't want to leave her comfort zone, so she said she'd retire when her contract expired

Side bar: fun fact: An Tsujimoto's last vid at TeamZERO TEAM-102 was the studio's last vid ever. An's co-graduate Suzu Suzumiya (TEAM-103, but actually released a few days before An') lasted not even 2 months after that. So for all her unwillingness, An's S1 tour was already longer than many AV star's entire career.

Well in the wider entertainment world, "by her choice" is a rarity anyway. Most performers surrender control to the agent and/or media company anyway. Of course the agent also has some responsibility to consider performer's preference but in J/K culture the power mostly is with the agent/company. Anyway the studio was being dissolved so there's no comfort zone for her to remain in.

Anyway she lasted long enough after the transfer, as I predicted back then. Retiring now is within expectation. Question is how well and how long she will last in the real world. She didn't succeed (too well) in AV, would she do better in the real world?

Another example : Minako Komukai. Isn't obsvious that she fucked up ?

Hmm Minako Komukai is a whole different story. I think she's messed up in the real world, but as far as I know her AV are pretty vanilla. The AV and sin industry in general of course attract some messed up people. And no one say AV is perfectly neutral, some girls become more messed up during AV career. But how much is AV industry to blame for the girls' issues? For Minako Komukai, all the news + gossips I read suggest the industry does the right things with her. 1. to keep a distance when she got in legal trouble, 2. to give her a chance when she get it back together. A fairly generous chance considering her real age, her career length and her weight.

 

[silent1one]

Idk about Aika. She reminds me of Nozomi Aoi that's on drug. I do believe girls that like ai uehara will fuck anyone crazily and act happily or volunteeraily be the acting as a vulnerable victim in gb while some av idols have baseline of not going too rough or only film with the same circle of safe guys. Japanese focus on very plot heavy throughout especially all the r***, which it's am act all the way, whic beg to question is it still acting now. sure there's script and cuts and the atmosphere/contract obligation might make a girl numb to it on set after a while. Who knows what the guys and girls are thinking especially ugly old men that cant do better are being paid to do beautiful young girls fresh out of hs without paying or dating themsleves. Who knows if the agents or any bigger event sponsors or management businessman partners secretly am hypocritically get a chance to test out some he girls while acting faithful and scandal less in public. In reality, who wants to see their daughters being toss around from guys of all size, age, race, along with sometimes weird ugly men house, elderly r***, midget, trans, and other niche series. It's shameful when they're all used up and need to come back to rely on their parents after they're kick out or retired after they're done with the fame. Some might end up escorting. There's tons of girls in and out, but not many are best seller that can live comfortably and branch out afte retirement. Anyway, av idol persona are always very stages to be happy and innocent throughout Asia as goddesses, but what goes on bts and in their private lives are a mystery. Like American and other western porn, av can go too far where push a girl to complain and retire, but most girls just take it and secretly ignore the pain even though there some small metoo movement going on.

 

[silent1one]

Japan, like any other country, as its problems. It's also something I don't understand, the "double standard" for family emphasize. Parents care about their kids being successful (like any parent in the world) but when they are facing a problem, the kid has to deal with it alone. I totally understand that for a victim of any age, being sexually harassed is a tough thing to confess. Making sure your kid know they can talk to you about anything, at any time, is extremely important. Personally, if that kind of situation when I became a dad, I would follow my little princess, wait couple of step behind and when the pedo tries to do it again, then ...

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Take him outside the train, take a pic of him, his ID and report him to the police. You can't beat the shit of him as you go in jail for that.

I agree that even if the country has a low rate crime and is far more secure than USA, France, UK and so on, there are still criminal. I read japanese news daily and murder/r*** cases are not rare. Sure, it's media, as soon as a story like this happen, they will report it. It gives you the feeling that every second, everywhere, a crime happens but the reality is different. After all, media are the same all around the world.



Don't say it where I live lol, you will be called a racist, sadly. Because yeah, you don't need to be Einstein to notice that the big majority of crimes of any kind are done by arabs.



Indeed, a movie is a fiction. In porn, it's a bit different tho. They do use tricks like fake nakadashi and so on but deepthroat, and all the dogma stuff is real. In Pornocratie, they follow newcomers from eastern europe, living in a house managed by a fat woman. One shoot with Rocco, and she says after coming back to the house that she didn't expect the shooting to be this hardcore (she was hurt on her upper lips). All those girls look kinda lost (mentally) and are just in porn because it's easy money. They don't look healthy at all. There is a big difference between big names and the others. It's the same in JAV. Attractive girls get the best opportunities (an exclusive contract, big money, vanilla movies and can even choose their partners), the other don't have all that and take what's left.

Yes, to me, the studio plays a role in what is "fine" or not. (as I was writing, a short explanation came to my mind) As a viewer, I clearly see a difference between a movie where the girl is the star and a movie where the girl is just an object (it can almost be a vanilla vs hardcore situation).
Frogman is as disgusting as the other creepy dudes. I always skip his scenes. One point I forgot to mention is that, as you quoted Yua Mikami with Frogman, the majority of her movies isn't with creepy dudes and doing hardcore stuff. It's the same for Makoto, Minami and Rion. Uta Kohaku said she hated all the bukkake and stuff she did (but according to some guys, no, you can see she likes it on camera).

(I didn't want to hijack the thread lol) We will probably never agree on the different points, but that's not really important. We exchanged our opinion on a subject and that's what matters.

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I've seen some bondage covers, it might have give me a false idea of her movie.
I don't blame the AV industry, the girls decided by themself to step into it. For Minako, I saw that she was with Madonna studio. They do milf movies so yeah she got a chance to not get into more troubles. Still a waste omg, that transformation, it's sad.

Porn in generally aren't that fun outside of the party and luxury after you're done with your fame. There are still a lot of prude that can never accept this even though they're fine with nude art or Hollywood style. There are tons of news article of exposing their past that cost them their jobs and families /friends, drug addictions, suicides, and on set competition/use power to r***. Tokyoreporter always post a few for japan side. it's bad for their spouse, kids, and parents with some dont see them as regular human after filming a few degrading dehumanized act. I remember a former pornstar was r*** outside of set as well in us like sakurai aya. Idk if the money helps, but some av idols film script r*** even worser, so idk what goes on in ther mind along with guys on set and bts. Idk if all the train r*** av encourage this molesting behavior in asia with some av actors that are real time Pedo convict at times. This is why only japan can make av in Asia, which is a Great monopoly for events with crazy old men and virgin youths fighting at even airport to gift and meet their av goddesses now that sales are down with piracy and new rule regulation scale back downsizing. It's all negative and there are good and bad av idols and you need the mindset to surrender your body fully like regular idols sure ding their mind and be the fake happy cute persona online and in public while you're in av like how minami kojima fake her optimistic about the av industry while doing prank and teasing guys.

 

[silent1one]

Japan, like any other country, as its problems. It's also something I don't understand, the "double standard" for family emphasize. Parents care about their kids being successful (like any parent in the world) but when they are facing a problem, the kid has to deal with it alone. I totally understand that for a victim of any age, being sexually harassed is a tough thing to confess. Making sure your kid know they can talk to you about anything, at any time, is extremely important. Personally, if that kind of situation when I became a dad, I would follow my little princess, wait couple of step behind and when the pedo tries to do it again, then ...

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Take him outside the train, take a pic of him, his ID and report him to the police. You can't beat the shit of him as you go in jail for that.

I agree that even if the country has a low rate crime and is far more secure than USA, France, UK and so on, there are still criminal. I read japanese news daily and murder/r*** cases are not rare. Sure, it's media, as soon as a story like this happen, they will report it. It gives you the feeling that every second, everywhere, a crime happens but the reality is different. After all, media are the same all around the world.



Don't say it where I live lol, you will be called a racist, sadly. Because yeah, you don't need to be Einstein to notice that the big majority of crimes of any kind are done by arabs.



Indeed, a movie is a fiction. In porn, it's a bit different tho. They do use tricks like fake nakadashi and so on but deepthroat, and all the dogma stuff is real. In Pornocratie, they follow newcomers from eastern europe, living in a house managed by a fat woman. One shoot with Rocco, and she says after coming back to the house that she didn't expect the shooting to be this hardcore (she was hurt on her upper lips). All those girls look kinda lost (mentally) and are just in porn because it's easy money. They don't look healthy at all. There is a big difference between big names and the others. It's the same in JAV. Attractive girls get the best opportunities (an exclusive contract, big money, vanilla movies and can even choose their partners), the other don't have all that and take what's left.

Yes, to me, the studio plays a role in what is "fine" or not. (as I was writing, a short explanation came to my mind) As a viewer, I clearly see a difference between a movie where the girl is the star and a movie where the girl is just an object (it can almost be a vanilla vs hardcore situation).
Frogman is as disgusting as the other creepy dudes. I always skip his scenes. One point I forgot to mention is that, as you quoted Yua Mikami with Frogman, the majority of her movies isn't with creepy dudes and doing hardcore stuff. It's the same for Makoto, Minami and Rion. Uta Kohaku said she hated all the bukkake and stuff she did (but according to some guys, no, you can see she likes it on camera).

(I didn't want to hijack the thread lol) We will probably never agree on the different points, but that's not really important. We exchanged our opinion on a subject and that's what matters.

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I've seen some bondage covers, it might have give me a false idea of her movie.
I don't blame the AV industry, the girls decided by themself to step into it. For Minako, I saw that she was with Madonna studio. They do milf movies so yeah she got a chance to not get into more troubles. Still a waste omg, that transformation, it's sad.

Dogfart, kink, fuck up facial, etc aren't for everyone and if an actor does something like that to a new girl in a vanilla scene then it's bad. It seems a lot of av idols are obsess with selling their stuffs like twitch girls and very obsess with their social since it's important to their porn persona where a lot of new lost and regain it. Lana Rhodes cried like someone from black mirror after losing it and kind of beg her fans to help out. She was the one that complain about the guy from casting couch Dan adam or Ed lying about the number of guys on set for a scene just like takiko to rie and tamieke goro case where the director wants some. In Japan, girls usually take it and won't complain even if you feed them some kind of shit or have to film a certain fellow, but it depends some can fake the old guy as bg actors and fake the black guys as well.

 

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I care about their mental state as well, I just do not confuse facts vs fiction, and persona vs character. I just find weird arguing about the mental state of a porn actress on the basis of her performances. It is not that easy. Minako Komukai was known to be a very troubled person even while she was filming her first vanilla movies, and even well before joining AV. And I am pretty sure An Tsujimoto is mentally stable (whatever she liked starring in JAV or not), as well as AIKA (another actress known for her non-smiling character) or "extreme" Marie Konishi from VRTM-040.

The fact you consider fine a gangbang of your favorite actress with ugly men (several of them regulars in the ugly-men-themed movies) just because there isn't the toothless guy, this makes your previous points very flawed and evanescent. I really find hard to understand what the border line is supposed to be, as it is becoming thinner and surprisingly elastic post after post. Is then the studio? The toothless guy occationally works for S1 as well (eg with Aika Yumeno in SNIS-127, but she smiles in the cover, so she was probably fine with those ugly dudes). And I wonder if making a blowjob to him is really more "disgusting" than being manhandled, heavily kissed and licked in every part of their bodies by the ugly and fat "Frogman" Taku Yoshimura (someone who worked virtually with everyone, including Yua Mikami).

Reality is, some girls have enough self-confidence to shoot the most hardcore scenes without having their lives affected, while others should have never joined JAV in the first place, especially considering once you join JAV you'll soon fuck ugly and old guys, shoot molestation and r*** movies, making deepthoat, licking male assholes and so on. Porn-complainer Asuka Hoshino worked only for two big companies, and shot the vanillier possible vanilla movies, but she looked very unconfortable from her first to her last movie, and probably her first movie will always be her biggest trauma. It should be the agencies'duty to skip some profiles, as they have not the strength and the awareness to start a career in AV. But pretending someone's mental state depends on fucking an ugly guy is pure science fiction.

You can't avoid the fates jabba the frog. He's in every major studio and label with new girls and veterans. Mikami is with an ugly bald old man this month. It's going the yui hatano and ai uehara route whir her popularity. She could stay vanilla like sora, asuka, mihiro, akiho, and shoko, but given the competition with failing honey popcorn and her fame tickling as her former ex idol persona won't last that much longer, she just go harder. It's the mentality of hey any ugly bald headed fat old prick can fuck a hot young girl in Japan while America only jocks can do it. It kind of have the reversing effect sometimes where the guys think they can do better with the Japan case especially when you know the sweet young innocent girls I HS where you have a crush on her, but now she's not hard to get instead she's doing any type of guys for work. It's a bit tearful and vomiting for family and friends. Idk his real the interviews are on camera and posted by dmm articles, but a lot aren't good girls. It's okay for real idols outside to secrtly, date drink and party while having a few different partners, bit surrending your mind and body to your agency can be a bit cruel even with all the money. If you don't have strong mindset or mentality to do porn the dont do it. A few done it as a stepping stone in America like streamer celestial vega and mia khalifa with all her scandals along with a few cam girls.pnipn of course, in porn you might meet a few competitive good friends that help support each other mentally while ignoring their family and Friends objection and hate like veronica Rodriguez's latin gang.

 

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The plot is important to me. If it's a teacher gang banged by her students, that's fine. I will still not watch it because I prefer 1 on 1 or harem. Among Koharu last movies, WANZ-754 or KAWD-912 are the type of movies I'm fine with (I didn't see them but judging by the trailers). But movies like KAWD-807, hell no. I don't want to see ugly fat dudes on screen. That kind of r*** or chikan movies, even if it's not "hardcore" (for JAV or porn in general), I stay far away. That might help weirdos that look like those dudes to jerk off, but I take care of myself in real life enough to not be that kind of losers. Harsh words, maybe, but hey, not every JAV "fan" has to be fond of seeing girls slapped and humiliated on camera to enjoy a movie. Because yeah, even if I don't know the actresses in person, I want them to be happy with their job and not ending mentally fucked up because they had to be slapped, deep throated by 15 dudes to earn money. To be honest, the girls who do that usually aren't beautiful so they are at the bottom of the JAV actresses list. It's not a theory, just browse the movies and you'll not see a girl like Yua Mikami or Rion being molested and slapped before being deep throated to the point of vomiting.

So, I get it, I'm not the typical JAV "fan", and I'm glad about it to be fair. And no, I'm not a feminist or anything like that, I just want people to be safe, no matter what kind of job they do.
It's kinda off topic (sorry about that), but it can be related to what I've just said. I've seen members from Akiba talking about hardcore JAV (with loli) saying "this is the best movie ever". Then, tons of conversations about some members going to sex services in Japan where you can masturbate behind a glass with a girl on the other side. [I then decided to leave the chat because I definitively around weirdos]. Some guys are so fucked up that one even said "Wow, the girl sent me a message and want to see me again", thinking the girl liked him (the establishment probably takes your phone number). Of course she wants ! If you come back, she will earn money. She doesn't care about you, you are just a customer (and she probably wants to get out of that job as quick as possible).

Finally, about the girls who do hardcore stuff, just by looking at them, you can see how fucked they are (or check their twitter accounts). If Koharu is suffering from depression without even completely crossed the red line (my red line), it's easy to understand that the situation is probably far worst for that category of actresses. A mentaly stable actress would not want to feature in movies where she's brutalized. That lead to the conclusion : the mental state of fans of that kind of stuff is ass fucked as the actresses'.

Long message, sorry about that. I took the opportunity of the concern about Koharu to talk about the industry and the dark side more globably.

Keep in mind that it's just my opinion as a JAV consumer. I didn't write it to start a conflit with anyone.

Kawd545 is one kohara av that might go a bit far and weird for kawd label and studio.I could rant on for days about the good and bad of av for me, casual and hardcore fans, and the guys and girls working in it onscreen and bts with different speculation and analysis, but at the end it's just to ease ourselves of the negativity nowadays. It's not the real truth. I'm sure some fans and haters will not care since av idols may not be a female object entirely to them, but they couldn't accept them in reality and private even if they cannot do better since they can't live with the shaming from family and friends about possibly marrying an use up av idols that wasted her looks and talent in av. There are cases like sakurai aida, who according to her opinion, her ex is a smooch and she rely on her oarents now and admit to be stupid when she was young and now try to be a good mother/role model in the pov of her 4 children, so she won't strip or go back to being a host like ainuehara or tia did or still doing in roppongi red dragon and rockza. Besides a lot pirate where av idols and pornstars despise even though it still help their popularity In some forms nowadays, so even if it's the truth, av idols don't want to hear the negative things and rather talk generic positive stuffs. We can't change anything or help them since we don't know them. At the end, we are kind of no different arguing morality in other fictional show forums outside of our reality. It's all beyond our reach other than being curious. This thread really blows up with playno1, tokyoreporter, and all the so called Olympic cleansing and metoo/brainwash/coercing news.

 

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10 year old girls are totally at risk of being sexually molested. I don't follow any news related to Japan (barring the ones mentioned on this site) but I do occasionally look up some news online and it seems like there's not a day that passes by that you hear about another case of arabs and/or blacks gang/raping women and girls, sometimes children that are 12 or around that age. Happens in many countries in Western Europe and Sweden nowadays. And arab grooming gangs have been a thing in the UK for decades now. So no, it's not hard to imagine that there are pedophiles in Japan too, maybe even more than one would think. And no, in a normal, decent society you wouldn't worry about young women, because if the society were truly normal and decent, you wouldn't have to worry about things like that. But as things stand now, there are definitely people who get off on grabbing a 10 year old child's ass and on doing a lot worse to them.



What you describe here holds truth, but I think that mostly depends on the viewer. But I can totally see where the two coincide, that is, causing the woman pain is what gives the man pleasure. There are guys who get off on humiliating and being rough with women in bed. I used to have a friend who showed me a clip of a woman getting literally face fucked, ejaculated on her face, and then the guy pushed her head into the toilet and flushed while holding it there. And he said that that was one of the best things that he'd ever seen and that every woman deserved that.

Also, whether porn helps live out one's fantasies so that he doesn't do that IRL (like r***) or just serves to perpetuate, normalise or even encourage him to seek it out IRL it depends on the person himself.

It's pretty bad in Japan with sexual harassment along with once the most well respected polite country after the war with massive economy is now declining with seeing population and salaryman stress and responsibility leading to overwork deaths and suicides, so av is a dark retreat for them along with clubs with no physical judging and double standards I suppose where girls just act nice in their persona for money like geisha/courtesan in the past.rjsc
Speaking of sexual harassment, shimiken's 2nd wife is a victim of the metoo movement where her boss molested her according to buzzfeed Japan. However, she's fine with marrying a guy that's job is respected by some fan viewing him as a god where he used that as an excuse to not visit his daughters outside of supporting them economically. Anyway, he's marrying a guy that also act as a creep in some av with others, so it's kind of hypocritically and hurting the cause especially with girls retiring and coming out with accusation of what the av industry have done to them. It doesn't help with her tweets calling out virgin hater or neet.
It's annoying that we know so much, which also hurt what we used to enjoy shamelessly with all those female objectification.