JAV Gossips
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I don't know if she's won any official awards, but weekly Playboy named her actress of the year twice, and in a DMM poll she was voted as the top actress out of 100 once
she probably won't win any awards until she's near retirment. She's at this point in her career one of those girls who you pretty much know what you're going to get from her work, and that hurts her(and helps)so there's probably nothing she can do to get herself to winning awards
Heard a rumor some gravure girl from HK wants to be a av idol in Japan. It's most likely a promotion tactic and even there's nudity, it might be fake soft core with the famous av actors.
Hans, that's the thing with those exclusive contracts: the actress seems to trade in risk for stability. Very few studios produce extremely diverse content. If an actress is signed to Moodyz, with few exceptions, she'll probably be starring in 'safe' somewhat no-frills releases. The same goes double for Prestige, etc. I worry that when this happens--when they go exclusive--it means the final countdown to their retirement has begun.
Hey as OP, I want to appreciate each and every posts, including sometimes topic drift and (inevitably) some OT.
I especially appreciate @jwlim80 for doing quite a few posts similar to my "report" translations. And @paparoach408 for perhaps the biggest (boin-est) retirement news of this month.
But I want to explain a bit what I feel "JAV Gossips" should be about. It should be news, gossip, insider rumor, and update from the industry.
So some posts kinda of drift from that. Both the Sora Shiina and Tsubomi posts are really excellent posts for this forum but maybe they fit better in another thread or even a new thread. Both are very interesting fan-originated collection or research but there's no particular timeliness to it. Sora Shiina (or her agency/studio) isn't doing anything special about her two years, nor is Tsubomi doing anything about her 10 years. It's just some impressive work for fans of those two idols and/or JAV in general.
Another thing that perfectly fit the topic is AVOP, but it's so big it should be a topic of its own. Tsubomi is also such a big name that I'm surprised there's no thread dedicated to her.
It's not that I oppose to them being posted here, but there are plenty other suitable headings. I had a topic that unfortunately died (went to coma) about hardest working JAV idol. Ohh.. I found it, actually 2 topics that would be great for both Sora and Tsubomi:
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/who-are-the-hardest-working-av-performers.1579320/
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/non-busty-hotties-active.1675331/
Yeah... ok both are my thread, but heheh... can't blame me for being a bit biased.
I especially appreciate @jwlim80 for doing quite a few posts similar to my "report" translations. And @paparoach408 for perhaps the biggest (boin-est) retirement news of this month.
But I want to explain a bit what I feel "JAV Gossips" should be about. It should be news, gossip, insider rumor, and update from the industry.
So some posts kinda of drift from that. Both the Sora Shiina and Tsubomi posts are really excellent posts for this forum but maybe they fit better in another thread or even a new thread. Both are very interesting fan-originated collection or research but there's no particular timeliness to it. Sora Shiina (or her agency/studio) isn't doing anything special about her two years, nor is Tsubomi doing anything about her 10 years. It's just some impressive work for fans of those two idols and/or JAV in general.
Another thing that perfectly fit the topic is AVOP, but it's so big it should be a topic of its own. Tsubomi is also such a big name that I'm surprised there's no thread dedicated to her.
It's not that I oppose to them being posted here, but there are plenty other suitable headings. I had a topic that unfortunately died (went to coma) about hardest working JAV idol. Ohh.. I found it, actually 2 topics that would be great for both Sora and Tsubomi:
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/who-are-the-hardest-working-av-performers.1579320/
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/non-busty-hotties-active.1675331/
Yeah... ok both are my thread, but heheh... can't blame me for being a bit biased.
https://twitter.com/StarPrinceAKI/status/884982286848061440
Some devoted fan of Sora Shiina showed off all 88 of her titles in celebration of her birthday yesterday.
88 titles after almost 2 years.....worthy of being the next Uehara ?
Do we know of anyone winning some industry award (as opposed to fan poll/vote) nearing retirement? I can't think of any. Industry awards seems to me not proper "award" but part of the PR campaign. So yeah over in the West you sometimes see some oldtimer (typically a low(er) profile performer) one day getting the industry giving some lifetime achievement award (compensation for overlooking you for decades). The one and only comparable case I know about in JAV is Hibiki Otsuki. We already had a discussion of her winning, and I still suspect it's a compensation after she was in a foul mood.
Otherwise, awards seem to be a tool for puffing the prestige (brand value) of specific performers.
Anyway, I don't see any evidence that AV veterans care for such things. Maybe they already accepted there's no chance or maybe really they care about other things (e.g. net income, or fan devotion). I think typical veteran see awards as a booster rocket to help a early career girl to launch to "orbit", so to speak, and a veteran is already "in orbit" so they have no need for such things.
Agree in general except the last part. A girl entering "exclusive contract" is not at all predicting a countdown. She might stay a long time (well do you mean a 5 year countdown??), she may be de-exclusive-fied after 1 or 2 vids, she may transfer to a different studio after making a few, she may become freelance, she may disappear, she may retire (different thing). Really I feel anything that might happen with a non-exclusive idol is just as likely to happen with an exclusive contract girl. Except OK, contract girls might have a longer halflife.
"Exclusive" seems to be just a generic groupthink status symbol. If an idol is any good, then some studio must want her so much to offer an attractive contract. But there's the unwanted effect that hot properties all got "exclusive-d" by mainstream, un-imaginative, formulaic production factories.
Regarding the s1 AVopen production and the mysterious idol.
DMM has interviewed the manager who wrote the status update.
We now know that she is 21 years old.
http://news.dmm.co.jp/article/995821/
DMM has interviewed the manager who wrote the status update.
We now know that she is 21 years old.
http://news.dmm.co.jp/article/995821/
Agreed ding, exclusive rarely means anything. There have been girls that are exclusive that have been for years (Kirara Asuka, Kojima Minami, Aika Yumeno to name a few), there are girls who shoot 2-4 AVs then disappear (countless), there are girls that shoot 4-12 exclusive movies then turn freelance (Wakana Nao). It's mainly just a sign that they're popular/have the potential to be popular, so that studios want them. At minimum they either have a unique hook (former celeb like Takahashi Shouko or Mikami Yua), or are just considered by talent scouts/agencies to be more attractive than your typical AV actress.
You're both right in terms of 'exclusive != retirement'. I wrote without thinking it through in regards to that. Sorry!
Still, the overall content diversity amongst actresses signed to exclusive deals is lacking. The type of studios that are big on these deals generally seem to deal in titles without much frills.
Still, the overall content diversity amongst actresses signed to exclusive deals is lacking. The type of studios that are big on these deals generally seem to deal in titles without much frills.
A certain talent who debuted as a well endowed loli in 2010 but retired a couple of years later for marriage had been recently spotted in the fuzoku trade.
While it's not really surprising that reality bites, the question is why ? It's more than certain that her (and the male party's) financial suituation is in a dire state. The guy is a bum (what are the chances that she will meet a smart and decent guy in such a trade ?) and she had not the sense to make solid long term investment such as real estate, even if the culture dictate that she be the stay-at-home housewife.
So the money eventually evaporates after and she turns to the only trade she knows of that can make a fast buck.
While it's not really surprising that reality bites, the question is why ? It's more than certain that her (and the male party's) financial suituation is in a dire state. The guy is a bum (what are the chances that she will meet a smart and decent guy in such a trade ?) and she had not the sense to make solid long term investment such as real estate, even if the culture dictate that she be the stay-at-home housewife.
So the money eventually evaporates after and she turns to the only trade she knows of that can make a fast buck.
Here is an admission from a former talent, Kohaku Uta :-
https://mobile.twitter.com/UK19920214/status/852464702902779904
The money she had earn is all gone. Considering what she had done in her career, that is surprising. Last I heard, she is working on and off at Red Dragon.
https://mobile.twitter.com/UK19920214/status/852464702902779904
The money she had earn is all gone. Considering what she had done in her career, that is surprising. Last I heard, she is working on and off at Red Dragon.
There are a lot of girls that spend as much as they earn + bad investments or maybe drug addictions,
Just realize all those yen amounts you sometimes hear published in weekly tabloids are usually *way* off if not downright lies. You also have to to realize that the agencies take a massive cut. I've no idea what Uta Kohaku made per year when she did AV, but even if she made a million USD for her time in front of the cameras, that still isn't that great and yes, it would be darn easy to waste it all if one doesn't budget wisely.
I don't know how popular she is or how many she film per a month. Popular ex-idol Yua Mikami is very blunt and brags about having the money to purchase a decent apartment in Tokyo and Mihiro reveal she can buy a huge car for just filming one title in an interview for abematv. It makes sense that some A/B-listers av idols can make at least a million usd annually easily and for Mihiro, she used to switching back and forth from mainstream studios like s1 and maxing each before the av industry salary cut. Sora Aoi and Yui Hatano should be filthy rich consider they travel a lot in Asia to film mainstream/pink (net movies, v-cinema, or B-movies), gaming commercials, cosplay for company events, club guests, and more. This doesn't account for if av actresses strip or escort offscreen.
That just for the top few percentage and we have no way of verifying the truth apart from their words. And their words make for good sensationalist topics.
But the point is that those AV girls are in the trade for a reason, and that reason is fast bucks. Which I personally doubt majority of them, after they are paid, have a long term plan for the money to grow.
Ozawa and Aoi are prime example of how AV talents should retire in style and never look back. Ozawa starts her own business while Aoi probably have some investment to generate passive income.
Maria Ozawa got lucky and got in invited to work in phillipine. I believe there's more to that since she was rumor to escort and strip before.
Yua is pretty much *the* porn star at the moment and both her and Muteki have confirmed that they threw a ton of money to get her to do porn (most likely they continually proposition top idols etc. with large fees to do porn, tabloids picked up on certain AKB idols being offered hundreds of millions to do it at some point in their heyday). Currently a lot of industry reports that as porn isn't selling as well, salaries have gone way down. Down as in a few hundred bucks for no names, maybe 1000/couple thousand for contract girls. More obviously if you're 1% like Yua (though I would bet more of her money comes from endorsements and other side hustles outside of just movie fees). I would be a majority of AV idols are only doing ok if that, that's why there are so many av idol groups, hostess clubs, etc., and why you can find listings for known actresses in soaplands and such.
Regarding Kohaku Uta- she was fairly popular and prolific back in the day so as others have said, wouldn't be surprised if she both had less money than we thought and she wasn't the best at managing it. The problem is, as others have stated, most actresses retire around 25, and even if you make hundreds of thousands (USD) that's still not enough to retire on. Apparently there's a huge bias against hiring girls for regular gigs after they've done porn (unsurprisingly) so it's no surprise they run out of money.
I think the lesson here is to keep doing AV for the rest of your life.
1) (Don't do it) Don't be naive thinking you're going to be a rich and famous idol or hoping it's going to be a stepping stone for something bigger. Don't get coerce in to it because it'll be a never ending nightmare after you make the wrong choice since shame will hit you even harder when you're a old poor talentless retiree. Be smart and get a good job after graduating college. Drink moderately, but don't get addicted to gambling and drugs.
2) (Do it) Learn to dress and do makeup. Even if you're not a natural beauty, you can always get surgery to boost your confident. Get famous and be friendly to get more opportunties. Make use of you're popularity after retirement and branch out or use what you earn and invest properly, so you'll have a decent future in private.