allgravure.com - Fakes?

endless_blue_water · Jan 18, 2014

Baby_Princess · Jan 18, 2014

oh well , if you do not like them can you skip all and do not look at it when i posted some pictures from allgravure , so it's will be no discomfort for you :byebye:

Ceewan · Jan 18, 2014

Maybe your translator program is on the fritz Baby_Princess, I don't think this was directed at your post.

The Reason that pictures on the internet have "watermarks" or the creators logos' stamped on them is to discourage someone else selling the pictures as their product. Now I am all for internet pirates but not the type that actually seek financial gain from others work, in my mind that actually is theft and not sharing at all. It happens often though, a site will stamp their log over top of someone elses or find a way to remove a watermark and claim the picture as theirs. This may not be the case here though, they could have actually bought the rights to the pictures. As long as we are not paying for them, I wouldn't worry about it. It is someones elses' problem.

IdolFun · Jan 18, 2014

endless_blue_water said:
These are great looking images below, but I'm sort of perplexed.
I'm almost positive these are Imouto.tv, and Minisuka images, not allgravure.com's :huh:

So what is this?
Nice girls though, but isn't putting a different logo on original sets kind of like slamming the agency?

Yes you would be right

ezepietro · Jan 18, 2014

And this is the part when the mods add allgravure,com to "do not upload list"
it is possible that some of this sets could be double post since they have different titles
I was beginning to suspect when i see titles like this one "fuuka-nishihama-how-can-i-please-you" that's an odd title for minisuka

CoolKevin · Jan 18, 2014

ezepietro said:
And this is the part when the mods add allgravure,com to "do not upload list"
it is possible that some of this sets could be double post since they have different titles
I was beginning to suspect when i see titles like this one "fuuka-nishihama-how-can-i-please-you" that's an odd title for minisuka

no this is where do not put it on the do not upload list, if they go on the list then most of the board will go on the list,

I do not know how allgravure operates, they could be buying rights to pictures, or they could be doing what a lot of posters here are doing,

but what has been said many time throughout the board before, you do not have to look, if you see Fuuka and company, you know to skip them, the other problem is the pictures are NOT fake, they are of who say they are, ok resized and re-watermarked, which I suspect they have paid the rights to post them because they never had the original watermark, and in the section they are being posted, it says Idol photos, it does NOT say original sets only, and when this board started, it was, all bits and pieces and part sets, and we did not see the complaints, and oddly enough it does supply a good service, because most have us have lost stuff through HDD failures, and this helps to get something back, and also many of the above posts are deleted with in a few hours and not replace, (sometimes resized is better than nothing, and the watermark is not as ugly)

there are also many pictures on other parts of the board which members fake and nobody complains, (why?),

Above everything else, it may have taken longer to complain about this in a thread, than it would just to bypass it, do not like it ignore it, there are many thing on this board I dislike, but I choose to ignore them

Baby_Princess · Jan 18, 2014

the minisuka i saw the links very fast down few hours or once day , why it's not good to sharing again from allgravure and i saw some links i posted a long times not die so i thought it is good to members wanted looking old pictures from it again

take care everyone... thank brother kevin to say that

endless_blue_water · Jan 18, 2014

Just to be clear. I'm not directing this at you personally Baby_Princess.
I was just asking for my own information.
As long as the images are being renamed to something else that's all the matters to me so they don't get mixed with originals.
They seem to be so that's good at least.

coolkevin said:
no this is where do not put it on the do not upload list, if they go on the list then most of the board will go on the list
I do not know how allgravure operates, they could be buying rights to pictures, or they could be doing what a lot of posters here are doing

With all due respect CK, you are right, members here do rename original sets. But the difference is they're not reselling them.
Allgravure.com has a membership page with fees. Why would Minisuka be reselling the same images? That would destroy the credibility of Minisuka in too many ways to name. And whats worse is when you see an image you once downloaded at Minisuka, and then you see that same image here with a different, logo, dimensions, and compression ratios.

I've never been against sharing something, but re selling something is kind of lame if that's actually what is happening. But even worse is when the images are re-saved thus compressing something lossy that was already lossy is a sin.

Anyway, not my business. I was just asking.
By the way, what is my girlfriend doing in your sig?

CoolKevin · Jan 19, 2014

endless_blue_water said:
With all due respect CK, you are right, members here do rename original sets. But the difference is they're not reselling them.
Allgravure.com has a membership page with fees. Why would Minisuka be reselling the same images? That would destroy the credibility of Minisuka in too many ways to name. And whats worse is when you see an image you once downloaded at Minisuka, and then you see that same image here with a different, logo, dimensions, and compression ratios.

I've never been against sharing something, but re selling something is kind of lame if that's actually what is happening. But even worse is when the images are re-saved thus compressing something lossy that was already lossy is a sin.

But the difference is they're not reselling them.

I nearly died laughing, it does happen a lot more than you think

I have news for you, most posters only post to earn off others, yes big companies do sell on as well,

Do not take this the wrong way, but what is wrong with just by-passing them, just ignore them, and move along, some members want them when the originals are not available, and another thing there maybe some pictures/models, that has never been seen, by many people, and it further develops searches of models, one of the odd things in life, there is always something to be found in something that has been changed, (something that has occurred to me, how does the original picture stack up to these)

By the way, what is my girlfriend doing in your sig?

she is making me happy :jump:

Anyway, not my business. I was just asking.

it is all our business, the board belongs to us all

IdolFun · Jan 19, 2014

PJB said:
As AllGravure is technically an adult site .

Then they would not have underage models

endless_blue_water · Jan 20, 2014

PJB said:
AllGravure has the rights to resell those sets.

You can prove that?

PJB said:
It's very hard to get approved with a payment processor without the content being verified as legit.

Actually, The payment processor could care less what the content is. They just want to be paid like everyone else.

PJB said:
As AllGravure is technically an adult site (in the eyes of Western payment gateways) and it's clearly using a payment processor, so that means you're looking at a very high probability that they have the rights to that content.

Wait a sec, you said above that they "have" the rights.
Now in this last paragraph you're saying there is a high probability? Ok where is the credibility in the first statement?

Last point. Some of these pics have been in circulation for years. Why on earth would a web site pay for the rights to old images that have been circulated (for years)? And why would an established site like Minisuka allow their content to be REsold under a new logo, ..possibly breaking their own contracts?

Again, It doesn't effect me personalty. I was just curious for the record.

Baby_Princess · Jan 20, 2014

IdolFun said:
Then they would not have underage models

:barf:

aikonhey · Jan 21, 2014

the ultimate question here, why you need to post fake titles with fake incomplete pics in a set. when the original and untouched rar/zip files are available already. i believe Rollyco, and other moderators will rule out that posting fancy titles are not allowed. for god sake, those sets are in high resolution with Minisuka.tv logo, how come they produce those sets? it should be titled properly, don't create fancy and invented titles.

you guys just damaging the reputation of this forum AO to promote those fake photosets. just post the original! post the complete sets! avoid fakes!

Baby_Princess · Jan 21, 2014

hallo , aikonhey

unch:

if that's those the fakes , the mods was do not allowed me posted it :wahey::gayprance:

aikonhey · Jan 23, 2014

^ for sure they don't have any right for these banner studios. they also offer images came from a scanned photobooks. LOL no one is selling those photobooks in digital format (that's why called Photobook), if you find some circulating within the internet, they are scanned copies made by release groups/torrent. and i'm very sure that those pics were just altered, resized, re-labeled, watermarked. try to check the Minisuka original sets compare to these photos and you'll see a big difference.

if Allgravure is an adult site, for sure they don't know what they are doing for those Kaana Yuuki and Fuuka Nishihama photosets as were taken when they are ages U18.

i stand in my position that those pics are not the official release, Allgravure.com is not a known and well presented site. they don't offer original contents, those pics just came from various companies/studios. You think minisuka and imouto.tv will allow this kind of site to use those explicit words in their photoset titles such as "sex, nude, bitch, pantyhose etc". no, never.

my question to Baby_Princess i hope you will answer it; Why you choose to upload those sets when the original set is available? i mean you choose fake over the real photosets?

Ceewan · Jan 23, 2014

aikonhey said:
my question to Baby_Princess i hope you will answer it; Why you choose to upload those sets when the original set is available? i mean you choose fake over the real photosets?

I can't answer for him but I will answer that question: One shares what one can. I have shared photos from numerous sites, many of them not very legit, many of them spam sites that make me flinch if I accidently click a link (no telling where it leads), and quite a few imageboards like 4chan and 2chan. So what if some of the photos that have been shared are not on par with the originals? No sense in being elitist about it. One shares with best intentions or one shouldn't share at all. I am not saying that is how everyone behaves but that is how it should be and that is the ideal I personally strive for. Sometimes my shares here at Akiba-Online are not all they could have been but the effort was there. Maybe that applies here and maybe it doesn't. It sure seemed a good place to say it. The vast majority (at least in the 90% range) of people that visit here share nothing at all, so if you are going to give someone grief over what they do share here you better have a damn good reason.

Baby_Princess · Jan 23, 2014

someone seems very angry, very selfish and greedy.....

Ceewan · Jan 23, 2014

Thanks for clarifyng your position. I would agree that what is shared in the direct download sections should follow a more stringent set of rules than what is shared in other sections of the forum. ( I would object to the whole pics harvested from Google searches though, lol, it is not as easy as all that). I trust the staff here completely to make the right call on this. I am very fond of all of them and they give freely of their time and effort in order to make this the best forum they know how.

CoolKevin · Jan 23, 2014

I deleted his post as pointless as he has repeated the same thing, a lot of the sets that has been posted, are deleted posts anyway, some (very few) get uploaded afterwards, so there are a lot of missing collections, unless he is going to upload every set that was posted and deleted, he does not have a compliant, and yes I did sent him a pm just to drop the subject, because there is nothing new in what he has said.

SO UNLESS aikonhey wants to posts EVERY deleted set on this board, he does not have a complaint, and why does he not say anything about other posters who do the same (he may respond to this if he promise to post every set)

many people want the allgravure stuff, they are many that download it

this really should end the subject

Baby_Princess · Jan 23, 2014

many old threads the links had die and do not be re-up again , minisuka the link down very fast by DMCA but with allgravure is never( picture of minisuka on allgravure is not much ) so i thought allgravure was good to go

thank you for understand

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