A... Gay thread?!?!

Should akiba-online have a subforum for gay JAV/male idols?

  • Yes

    Votes: 96 35.7%
  • No

    Votes: 173 64.3%

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NoriHiiro

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Is a thread of gay japanese videos ok? I'll get one started if the mods say it's ok and there is interest. If I get enough pm's showing interest I'll start one. Where would it go mods? In fetish?
 

Ceewan

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Not something I would ever be interested in seeing. To be perfectly honest if I went my whole life and never saw a gay japanese video that would be aces with me.

However I am the last person to be judgmental on what others find interesting. In that spirit alone if none other I wish you good luck NoriHiiro in this endeavor.
 

lowleg26

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It's not disallowed in the rules, so I don't see why there would be a problem. As long as the material is from Japan, you should be just fine.

Only thing is, you may want to be pretty specific in your title, description, and thread tags that its gay material. Just to keep meatheads who freak out if they see two guys kiss off of your back, "ZOMG my sexuality is threatened!"

Like Ceewan, the material isn't my bag, but good luck with your venture here. And kudos on trying to bring a new type of material to the board.
 

Rhinosaur

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If "boy" vids are allowed in the IV section then why not gay porn in the JAV? (not that I believe they are related.)
As long as it's tagged as such then I imagine it would be okay.
 

redrooster

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There are enough other sites in the web providing gay porn, even japanese. A-O isn´t a place for this stuff though, although it is not explicit mentioned in our rules we don´t like this stuff to be posted here.

Threads or posts containing stuff like this will be (and already have been in the past) deleted on sight.
 

Ceewan

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Thanks Redrooster for the ruling, I have to say I am a little relieved. Like I said before. I personally couldn't complain if there was a gay section but that did not mean I wanted to see one here. So whatever Akiba-Onlines' reasons are you will not here any complaints from me.
 

chompy

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Currently, no. There has never been a debate, or sufficient demand for a gay section.

I've added a poll to this thread to get a little more feedback on what other people think though.
 

lowleg26

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I can somewhat understand apprehension to putting gay material in the regular JAV section, but, if the admin were willing to make a separate section for it, there should really be no problems.

I'd imagine the main concern would be that people wouldn't want to browse the torrents and have to see screen shots of hot gay sex. A separate section alleviates this concern. Like any section: Don't like it, don't go there.

To be honest, I, personally, wouldn't have a problem with people just listing them in the regular JAV section. If you're on the internet searching for porno, expect to see stuff outside of your interests. Its just gonna happen. With all the kinky, crazy, and sometimes just downright weird JAVs listed on the site, it seems odd that run-of-the-mill gay male stuff is not allowed.

Just my opinion, anyway. Like I said, If people don't want it here, I understand, but disagree.

I appreciate that admin is actually willing to consider the idea, rather than simply shutting it down.
 

kbryc08

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I agree w/ lowleg's last post. Gay porn is tame compared to the kinkier and weirder stuff that's been posted here (cockroach porn anyone?). If you don't like it, don't open the thread and post a stupid remark or flame. Just ignore it and move along.
 

thisismyname

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90% of people are straight, 10% are gay. I wouldn't want to see that kind of stuff on the forum in a billion years because it's not most of our preference. No offense to anyone from my post.
 

lowleg26

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90% of people are straight, 10% are gay. I wouldn't want to see that kind of stuff on the forum in a billion years because it's not most of our preference

I agree that most porn is intended for a "straight" audience, but the fact that gay material is not a majority preference shouldn't matter. By that logic, we should actually get rid of a lot of the fetish vids that are currently posted here. No more scat, watersports, or BDSM for anybody.

And what about the newhalf vids? Technically, there's already videos of two biological males banging each other posted on the site. Is gay only OK if they look feminine? :puzzled:
 

thisismyname

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I agree that most porn is intended for a "straight" audience, but the fact that gay material is not a majority preference shouldn't matter. By that logic, we should actually get rid of a lot of the fetish vids that are currently posted here. No more scat, watersports, or BDSM for anybody.

And what about the newhalf vids? Technically, there's already videos of two biological males banging each other posted on the site. Is gay only OK if they look feminine? :puzzled:

I have no problems with scat, watersports or bdsm if it's a real women in the video. That's all i'm saying, it's about sexuality, not just mere obscure preference or fetishes which those videos are made for straight people. I don't have problems with lesbians either, however most of us doesn't want to see two guys going at it, with a wig or not pretending to be a women. Like I said, it's not about obscure preferences, it's about sexuality and I can say for most of us guys, we don't like to see that, no offense or anything.
 

lowleg26

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I can say for most of us guys, we don't like to see that, no offense or anything.

I completely understand what you mean, and I'm not trying to change your personal view on the material itself. I'm personally not into gay material, but I don't think it should be singled out and disallowed.

It just seems weird that newhalf is allowed while gay isn't. Is there some kind of threshold beyond which the vid becomes "too gay?"

most of us doesn't want to see two guys going at it

Keep in mind that, if admin decided to start allowing gay material, it would most likely get its own section away from the normal JAV section. You wouldn't be forced to see anything you didn't want to see.

Again, I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion on the material. I'm also not advocating "mandatory gay porn viewing" for all members.

I'm just saying that I don't think its fair to tell someone that they can't post perfectly legit material just because someone else might not like it.

This is what I was getting at when I mentioned the other fetish vids that are A-OK to post. I'd imagine most people would be perfectly content to go through life without seeing a dozen guys shit on a woman's face. Its a very small percentage of individuals that actually want to see this happen. Yet, despite most people NOT wanting to see this, you can still find it on the site.

I just don't see what the big deal is (beyond admin having to construct and monitor a new section). I say give it a section and see how it goes.
 

thisismyname

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Also a fetish and a preference are two completely different thing and shouldn't be passed off as the same thing. I've seen alot of excuses like that with gay material already posted on the forum before, yet they ignore the fact the sexuality and the gender trying to pass it off as similar things yet it couldn't be anymore different or completely opposite.

What is a fetish? "a form of sexual desire in which gratification depends to an abnormal degree on some object or item of clothing or part of the body." That has nothing to do with homosexual material because to homosexuals, that's natural for them, not abnormal as the fetish definition said. If there is a new section, I hope it's no where near any jav or U-15 section of the forum as a subforum, rather it's at a very different location, I don't want to see a gay section right next to straight videos as I don't want to see gay ads on the site if I have a choice. It's not equal because dispropotionally 90% of the worlds population is straight and it doesn't equal to a fetish because alot of people doesn't like that either. I had yet to see a gay fetish video on this site before. Last time I checked, this site is a forum for female jav and idol videos and stuff like that, not anything remotely homosexual. Let's not try to pass it off as the same thing because it's really the opposite or saying you don't have to click on it if you don't want to. That's obvious and an excuse to post alot of homosexual material on the forum. However it's like saying your equal to the 90% now and we all have to accept it without given a choice. Maybe some of us finds that really disgusting and really unappealing (no offense, just my opinion) (don't say the word fetish because most fetish are straight dispite being very unappealing to alot of people)

Like I said, I didn't mean to offend anyone who is a homosexual on this site, however I like to have an opposing view.
 

lowleg26

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Also a fetish and a preference are two completely different thing and shouldn't be passed off as the same thing. I've seen alot of excuses like that with gay material already posted on the forum before, yet they ignore the fact the sexuality and the gender trying to pass it off as similar things yet it couldn't be anymore different

I'm quite aware of that. But you stated:

I wouldn't want to see that kind of stuff on the forum in a billion years because it's not most of our preference

Meaning: Most members aren't into it, so keep it off the forum. By this logic you can argue that most members aren't into BDSM, so keep it off the forum. Hell, you could use it to argue that most members don't use the Japanese media section, so get rid of it. Most members don't participate actively in clubs, get rid of them, etc, etc.

Just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean its not worthwhile to have on the board. And, frankly, "I don't like it" isn't a valid argument against it. Its a perfectly acceptable opinion, but it isn't anything approaching a coherent argument.

I may not have been clear in my previous post, and I apologize if I wasn't. I'd also like to say that I didn't mean to lump in homosexuality as a fetish or even a "preference". Its not a fetish (or a choice), and its not a preference because its not something an individual controls. So, again, my apologies if I was unclear.

I don't want to see a gay section right next to straight videos as I don't want to see gay ads on the site if I have a choice

Gay ads? Now you're just assuming the worst. That wouldn't happen. There is no reason for that concern.

Last time I checked, this site is a forum for female jav and idol videos and stuff like that, not anything remotely homosexual

As I've said, THERE ALREADY IS TRANSSEXUAL MATERIAL ON THE SITE. TWO PENISES, NO VAGINAS. TWO BIOLOGICAL MALES HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER. ITS ALREADY ON THE SITE. Why not take it one step further and just allow people to post gay material?
 

thisismyname

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You seem very intent on having a gay section of the forum and I am the opposite. I wasn't aware there was transexual material on the site. I don't make an effort of supporting this kinds of stuff or looking for it if I can avoid it. You said your not a homosexual right? Why help their cause if you have no stake in it?

Straight people and gay people are really opposites, nothing is remotely the same, their preferences by default is different and I still go by the admins that it's not that type of site for the opposite preference even if a few videos on the site are gay material. Label that stuff as such and it would help me avoid it since there aren't alot of that stuff on the forum, there is no need for another section of the forum for that. I still say if they want that stuff, it's probally better on another site. That's my opinion and I say everything with respect, yet not equality. Don't say by my logic, your logic and my logic might be different.

Meaning: Most members aren't into it, so keep it off the forum. By this logic you can argue that most members aren't into BDSM, so keep it off the forum. Hell, you could use it to argue that most members don't use the Japanese media section, so get rid of it. Most members don't participate actively in clubs, get rid of them, etc, etc.

I didn't say most members aren't into it, keep it off the forums, I said most members aren't homosexuals, keep that stuff off the forums and stop using excuses that they are the same or similar to other straight things posted on the forum such as fetishes. Like I said, it's a sensitive topic to a few, I mean everything I said with respect. I would like to have more of an outside opinion outside of yours, I would like to hear what more people has to say about the topic.
 

Ceewan

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I believe that this is what chompy has referred to in the past as arguing over a binary point.

only 17 votes on this poll so far....I guess most people don't give a shit one way or another, lol. Maybe after some more time has passed we will see a little more action on that poll, (perhaps the poll should have had Japanese subtitles? lol). Anyway, I will leave this thread be for a bit and check back to see if things have gotten more interesting.
 

lowleg26

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I'm not sure you're understanding my argument, and things like this:

and stop using excuses that they are the same or similar to other straight things posted on the forum such as fetishes

I've seen alot of excuses like that with gay material already posted on the forum before, yet they ignore the fact the sexuality and the gender trying to pass it off as similar things yet it couldn't be anymore different or completely opposite

These aren't valid rebuttals. That last quote isn't even coherent. If you think I'm wrong, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But if you want to argue against anything I've said, you're going to have to explain your side a lot better than this. Tell me WHY my position is wrong.

Simply saying "no" or "I don't like it" is not a valid argument.
 
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