On the removal of the Jr Idol club

[Immergeil]

@MrTimscampi made a backup using a web crawling program. He said the whole thing weighs 26GB and will be made available through torrent if I am not mistaken.

That must be uncompressed becuase that sounds like a lot for mostly just text.

 

[saviorpants]

That must be uncompressed becuase that sounds like a lot for mostly just text.

Some of the threads in the Junior Idol section still have a lot of images in them. Rei, for example, has 90 pages in her thread with tons of uploaded sets still intact.

 

[zakurabu]

@MrTimscampi made a backup using a web crawling program. He said the whole thing weighs 26GB and will be made available through torrent if I am not mistaken.

I appreciate that but my attitude is always "We'll see." Plus I may not have 26 gigs to use to download it and in any case a live version that can be browsed in real time is always superior.

I said this on the Matrix but I believe if it is uploaded to IPFS properly you could potentially make a live browseable version hosted in a permanent decentralized fashion but I'm not sure. In any case a torrent won't last forever.

Also, 26 gigs does still seem high to me. I've saved a decent amount of random stuff And I've spent no more like than like a gig total on it. Due to their age, most of the pics here aren't that HQ.

One thing I could see ballooning the size is sig/avatar pics. It would be good to either deduplicate those (make all instances of them refer to one copy) or delete them. You could also deduplicate all of the basic forum javascript, CSS, etc.

 

[granatnik]

Also, 26 gigs does still seem high to me. I've saved a decent amount of random stuff And I've spent no more like than like a gig total on it. Due to their age, most of the pics here aren't that HQ.

One thing I could see ballooning the size is sig/avatar pics. It would be good to either deduplicate those (make all instances of them refer to one copy) or delete them. You could also deduplicate all of the basic forum javascript, CSS, etc.

I can tell you from the size this was already done... Otherwise it would be 100+GB.

 

[GonzoLewd]

Honestly, the fact that this site was able to host JI threads post-2015 is a miracle in-of-itself.

 

[zakurabu]

Honestly, the fact that this site was able to host JI threads post-2015 is a miracle in-of-itself.

The 2015 law was for Japan, presumably not wherever AO is hosted.

 

[GonzoLewd]

The 2015 law was for Japan, presumably not wherever AO is hosted.

Yeah true. I guess I meant in a world where the internet is becoming less and less decentralized.

 

[zakurabu]

Is it just me or is U15DVD.info down now too? That'll be a disaster if that goes down along with AO at the same time. It also makes me question if something is going on here broader than AO. Did some big upstream provider just find out about junior gravure and start making threats downstream or something?

@chompy - Even if the images have to be removed, is there really any reason that the forums can't stay up as a text-only archive at least? Your hosting provider prevents hosting text?

Edit: Okay U15DVD.info being down seemed to be a temporary false alarm. (Maybe? I managed to load the front page but access is spotty. idk this news is putting me on a hair trigger I guess.) But imo @MrTimscampi (among others, including me if I can get a new HD) it should be the next target for archiving. With the stuff on that + your AO archive you should easily have enough info for your database project.

 

[granatnik]

With u15dvdinfo there is a small catch that I have encountered once - several older codes were seemingly not attached to any list, only reachable by search, so I have missed them.

 

[zakurabu]

Looks like it's done. AO's JI section is no more. Hopefully this thread can at least stay open for updates on further developments in where to go next.

Genuinely not just trying to trash the site, but I'm curious so to all browsing treat this as an informal survey: Without the JI, how interested are you in AO anymore out of 10? I'm at like a 3. I may come to see what some of the formerly junior gravure girls I follow (Anjyu, Asami, etc.) are up to at times (though I won't even need to log in for that and I also just go to 4chan's /jp/'s gravure threads too), but other than that the site is now a big meh for me. This site was the #1 destination for something you couldn't get almost anywhere else as comprehensively. Now it's just a generic porn site which you can get anywhere. What do you all think?

At the very least, I will never have to use Filejoke(r) again and they will justly lose whatever meager income they might have derived from me for running such a dogshit service. Good riddance.

Anyway I hope the admins here enjoy their private collection of what everyone else has contributed over the years, which I assume they will make a decent amount of personal use of. Good for them.

 

[Arx]

Genuinely not just trying to trash the site, but I'm curious so to all browsing treat this as an informal survey: Without the JI, how interested are you in AO anymore out of 10? I'm at like a 3.

Probably a zero at this point. I do wonder what amount of traffic or percentage of users were on AO for the JI content compared to the site overall, at least in the heyday before 2015. It's probably not as much as I think but it's an interesting question.

This is a very sad development. I've been a member for over 14 years and discovered so many girls and like-minded people. It is depressing to see it come to an end. The wealth of knowledge in one place is incomparable. Members spent an inordinate amount of time and energy contributing to this forum. I can't see any other site or Discord picking up where this left off. Communities fall apart this way. As cliche as it is, this is the end of an era.

I wasn't much of a contributor but I always made sure to seed torrents very well in order to give back to the community. I uploaded many terabytes on a home connection, which may be a drop in the bucket to some, but I did my best.

I hope to see some members again and thanks to everyone trying to create a life raft. Stay safe.

 

[idohanna19]

@MrTimscampi made a backup using a web crawling program. He said the whole thing weighs 26GB and will be made available through torrent if I am not mistaken.

i made a backup, its 38gb with inline attachements files only and of course over 38k posts, but without the download and torrent pages they deleted before, i can give the data in any form if its not avaiable until 2months, but before i must clear content like loli pics or unproper content and anonymous the user data

 

[granatnik]

clear content like loli pics or unproper content and anonymous the user data

So... everything?

I wonder what kind of user data you might have caught, to be forced to anonymize .

 

[idohanna19]

So... everything?

I wonder what kind of user data you might have caught, to be forced to anonymize .

lol i caught nothing, i only make usernames random like user1 user2, if you want put the post in a other forum software and someone is moderator people can still claim their posts if recognize their username like user1, i dont set up any forum or something i share only raw data if no does after a certain time, and when i share a certain file i dont want someone take it down afterwards like on nyaa or somelse thats why exclude some pics, i can share them in a second file seperate if you wish, and yes i saw some toddler loliboru pics and voyeur pics no nude, this i will seperate

 

[columbussnake]

I know I'm not contributing anything helpful here and I apologize to all for that. But I must say:

This is a disaster!

 

[granatnik]

lol i caught nothing, i only make usernames random like user1 user2, if you want put the post in a other forum software and someone is moderator people can still claim their posts if recognize their username like user1

This sounds like a bad idea to me - the goal of a community archive is that posts can be attributed to users, moreover: users can be recognized and distinguished visually. Without that aspect, chat itself becomes meaningless, it's like you were mashing up output of ChatGPT. Just a stack of information glued randomly with somewhat correct language.

 

[zakurabu]

lol i caught nothing, i only make usernames random like user1 user2, if you want put the post in a other forum software and someone is moderator people can still claim their posts if recognize their username like user1, i dont set up any forum or something i share only raw data if no does after a certain time, and when i share a certain file i dont want someone take it down afterwards like on nyaa or somelse thats why exclude some pics, i can share them in a second file seperate if you wish, and yes i saw some toddler loliboru pics and voyeur pics no nude, this i will seperate

I don't think the usernames need to be anonymized. It's very unlikely anybody used a username they're particularly attached to to look at junior gravure.

 

[granatnik]

And even if they reused nickname known elsewhere, they did this consciously and on purpose.

 

[Arx]

Whichever site backup turns out to be the most comprehensive version, would I have permission to upload it to alt.binaries.akiba-online? The newsgroup must exist for a reason. If that group isn't preferred then there are similar ones like a.b.japan.fashion.j-class. If the torrent ever goes down at least the files will be available in a newsgroup in perpetuity.

 

[zaldar]

Will this is terrible. Where are people going for a forum and let me know where files are hosted. Never used github but will try to join the group there soon.