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boshu22

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Does it seems that Arisaka Miyuki ( 有坂深雪) retired?

I think she said near the end of 2019 that she was burned out after working on AVs for two years straight. She said she needed to take a break starting January 2020. I don’t recall her mentioning retirement.
 

pukimai

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and no new video for Honjous Suzu and Sakura Mana in the last 2 months, are they also joining Felano ?
 

ding73ding

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Was Yuma Asami forced into a career in porn? Her explosive exposé on her JAV career (???)

In the Chinese fandom recently there's some discussion that Yuma Asami was perhaps, maybe, alleged to be forced against her will to a career in JAV. It turns out to be misinterpretation of an exaggeration of a non-ideal translation of a story that Yuma Asami, well like any normal person, wasn't 100% devoted to a career in porn thru and thru. And it's not even a new story. But it's still a good story. Methinks. Read about it on ZENRA blog.
 
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rice12345

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杏树纱奈 Real name 金井千春 was forced to do JAV. She was kick out when she was like 14 by her own family and forced to sell sex to survive. I watch a youtube video about a few days ago. It's really sad.
 

samurai79

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杏树纱奈 Real name 金井千春 was forced to do JAV. She was kick out when she was like 14 by her own family and forced to sell sex to survive. I watch a youtube video about a few days ago. It's really sad.
Behind 99% of JAV stars is a tale of misery and a shitty childhood.
 

ding73ding

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杏树纱奈 Real name 金井千春 was forced to do JAV. She was kick out when she was like 14 by her own family and forced to sell sex to survive. I watch a youtube video about a few days ago. It's really sad.
I went and look up the video, found one in Cantonese. That guy use sensational tone to talk about the story, but when you get used to Cantonese you filter out the judgemental color and only listen for the facts.

So that guy only use tones, but he didn't play with the words for misleading effect. But you @rice12345 did, who or what forced her to do porn? You wrote "xxx was forced to do JAV" implying some JAV industry persons did that, how you wrote it is highly irresponsible. What the Cantonese guy said could be, strictly technically speaking, could be translated to your sentence. But in the Cantonese, it's more in the sense of "Tom was forced to ask police for help [after he lost his wallet]". Anyone watching the video would understand who or what forced her to do porn: her parents did, the guy who r***ing her did, she did, LIFE did. Not talent scout, not agency, not studio. No one in the industry did anything especially wrong to her (maybe the part about eating shit).

But way you wrote it was deliberately misleading. BTW I also strongly disagree with that Cantonese guy, 杏樹紗奈 is by far not the most tragic AV actress. Having been r***ing, unfortunately, is all too common in Japan. Abortion is also very common, hers at least wasn't a direct result of r***. (comparing statistics between different countries, Japan has rather high abortion rate, and quite high proportion of abortion has the reason of r***, meaning either Japanese rapists are stupider than their international counterparts, or they are not afraid to leave behind DNA ). Hina Kurumi wasn't addicted to hard drugs, alcoholic, in prison or dead. No she is not the most tragic AV actress in history (as per that guy's youtube title) not by a very long shot. Just typical Cantonese (HK) sensationalism.
 

rice12345

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I went and look up the video, found one in Cantonese. That guy use sensational tone to talk about the story, but when you get used to Cantonese you filter out the judgemental color and only listen for the facts.

So that guy only use tones, but he didn't play with the words for misleading effect. But you @rice12345 did, who or what forced her to do porn? You wrote "xxx was forced to do JAV" implying some JAV industry persons did that, how you wrote it is highly irresponsible. What the Cantonese guy said could be, strictly technically speaking, could be translated to your sentence. But in the Cantonese, it's more in the sense of "Tom was forced to ask police for help [after he lost his wallet]". Anyone watching the video would understand who or what forced her to do porn: her parents did, the guy who r***ing her did, she did, LIFE did. Not talent scout, not agency, not studio. No one in the industry did anything especially wrong to her (maybe the part about eating shit).

But way you wrote it was deliberately misleading. BTW I also strongly disagree with that Cantonese guy, 杏樹紗奈 is by far not the most tragic AV actress. Having been r***ing, unfortunately, is all too common in Japan. Abortion is also very common, hers at least wasn't a direct result of r***. (comparing statistics between different countries, Japan has rather high abortion rate, and quite high proportion of abortion has the reason of r***, meaning either Japanese rapists are stupider than their international counterparts, or they are not afraid to leave behind DNA ). Hina Kurumi wasn't addicted to hard drugs, alcoholic, in prison or dead. No she is not the most tragic AV actress in history (as per that guy's youtube title) not by a very long shot. Just typical Cantonese (HK) sensationalism.

Forced not by people but by her life circumstances, did you see I wrote xx person forced her to do it?
 

ding73ding

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Behind 99% of JAV stars is a tale of misery and a shitty childhood.
The wording may be a bit strong. 99% is more like 75%. But it's not totally out of of whack. You could also say the same about farm laborers, the people who pick oranges and process meat for your supermarket. 99% of them have a misery and shitty childhood.

My own very very pet theory, without evidence, is that most (let's say 90%) of the the top idols are well adjusted and never suffered much injustice from family, friends, school, society or JAV industry. Yes many psychologically damaged women are present in JAV, but I think messed-up girls can't get to the top (generally) and if they do, they don't stay long (6 months). Yeah a famous example is An Tsujimoto 辻本杏 she hanged on for a while. The real big example of a top idol who had a bad upbringing was Koharu Suzuki 鈴木心春, but her being a very unique case is just exception that proved the rule. Most top idols are not a child of tragedy.

If you get to the planning actresses, especially the nameless ones. Hina Kurumi 杏樹紗奈 being a middling example (she was at least famous for a while) yeah a lot of them went to porn to settle debts etc. There were many cases of "you signed a contract" "but the contract doesn't say porn" "well come up with the money or if you can't, we can find work for you that make money" leading to one of the easy and obvious ways to make money if we are talking about a woman not ugly and not have any other employable skills. Working at 7-11 can make enough to live on bread and water. But if you have a debt, you can't even afford the interest.

Post-2016, the now much stricter rules of explicitly stated and per-job contract. There should be (theoretically) no more naive girls signing vaguely worded contracts and end up, effectively, being r***ing on camera. But it won't eliminate the doing porn because of need of money/debt "being forced to do porn". Japanese social structure and lack of social welfare ensure that every year there are many young men and women are in difficult situation. If a Japanese girl is good looking enough, I would say, doing JAV is a not bad option among all the bad options. She might end up rich, instead of dead or in prison.
 
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ding73ding

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99% is way too high. Some people just love sex and also that standard is never held to guys in porn.
There was a interview posted a while ago where the actress who went in the industry just because she likes sex too much.
When I hear certain girl enter JAV career because they crave sex. 90% of it, I would say it's absolutely fabricated out of thin air by agency and/or studio. The remaining 10%, yeah may be the real girl are looking for sexual satisfaction from making porn according to her imagination what life as porn actress is. But they would quickly find out making porn is a shitty way to find pleasure. Both for the actress and the studs.

A Japanese woman in need of sexual pleasure, most of them, turn to sex toys. You notice, compared to other countries, Japanese spend a huge amount of money on dildos and vibrators. Japanese men and women have on average fewer sexual intercourse (that's intercourse for any reason, including making porn and prostitution) per person per month than most of the world. So the men turn to JAV and right hand and masturbation cups. Women turn to dildo and vibrators. Those who need actual meat sex, in the modern age, has tinder and compensated dating. A hungry woman can get a one-night stand with a guy who doesn't look like a creep, and keep her privacy and come out of it with a meal and booze paid and a bit of pocket change.

One idol who I might believe is using JAV career for double purpose of money and sex is Rion now known as Ruru Anzai. She is so lazy about everything in her life. I can believe she is too lazy to even get a one-night stand. Still I'd say primary reason for her is money, that she can get some sex out of the deal is secondary.
 
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cloudmain

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When I hear that. 90% of it, I would say it's absolutely fabricated out of thin air by agency and/or studio. The remaining 10%, yeah may be the real girl are looking for sexual satisfaction from making porn according to her imagination what life as porn actress is. But they would quickly find out making porn is a shitty way to find pleasure. Both for the actress and the studs.

A Japanese woman in need of sexual pleasure, most of them, turn to sex toys. You notice, compared to other countries, Japanese spend a huge amount of money on dildos and vibrators. Japanese men and women have on average fewer sexual intercourse (that's intercourse for any reason, including making porn and prostitution) per person per month than most of the world. So the men turn to JAV and right hand and masturbation cups. Women turn to dildo and vibrators. Those who need actual meat sex, in the modern age, has tinder and compensated dating. A hungry woman can get a one-night stand with a guy who doesn't look like a creep, and keep her privacy and come out of it with a meal and booze paid and a bit of pocket change.

One idol who I might believe is using JAV career for double purpose of money and sex is Rion now known as Ruru Anzai. She is so lazy about everything in her life. I can believe she is too lazy to even get a one-night stand. Still I'd say primary reason for her is money, that she can get some sex out of the deal is secondary.
So because of a couple of instances of bad upbringings, now an overwhelmingly amount of girls have issues? That is a straight up fallacy. The "bad upbringing" or "daddy issues" argument has been easily debunked so many times. Things may be different in Japan but I highly doubt it. I totally understand the fact that they have less sex but the rate at which they do have sex is the same. Another reason can also be money and fame but to just say that there is one significant reason why anybody does porn is just entirely wrong.
 

ding73ding

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Well I'd say one single unified reason to do porn is money. Easy money. If a girl is not too ugly, maybe suffer some plastic surgery, without the warped sense of sexual morality of Chinese, Muslim and Christian cultures, and considering a good majority of ex-AV idols managed to exit the career and disappear into mainstream society, without splashing on newspaper as drug addicts, prisoners or dead bodies on the street. It's an attractive choice either for a long term career or a one-time thing for quick money.

Sex industry is naturally a collection place for misery, tragedy and losers. But you don't blame the sewage system for the present of shit. Shit is made by somewhere else by someone else, sewage is just where shits collect. I'd say JAV industry is a pretty good sewage system mostly keeping stink and disease out of mainstream society, Shinzo Abe's (earlier) attempt to "clean" up the sex industry is completely wrong-headed.
 

cloudmain

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Well I'd say one single unified reason to do porn is money. Easy money. If a girl is not too ugly, maybe suffer some plastic surgery, without the warped sense of sexual morality of Chinese, Muslim and Christian cultures, and considering a good majority of ex-AV idols managed to exit the career and disappear into mainstream society, without splashing on newspaper as drug addicts, prisoners or dead bodies on the street. It's an attractive choice either for a long term career or a one-time thing for quick money.

Sex industry is naturally a collection place for misery, tragedy and losers. But you don't blame the sewage system for the present of shit. Shit is made by somewhere else by someone else, sewage is just where shits collect. I'd say JAV industry is a pretty good sewage system mostly keeping stink and disease out of mainstream society, Shinzo Abe's (earlier) attempt to "clean" up the sex industry is completely wrong-headed.
The two reasons anybody thinks that about the sex industry is because that's the way it's been painted since the dawn of time. The other reason is because its illegal and where it is legal, it isn't properly regulated. I don't understand the stance of the sex industry is filled with misery, tragedy and losers yet an overwhelmingly amount of people around the world consume porn. What does that say about you?