宇都宮しをん Shion Utsunomiya aka RION

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Come on of course there's a market for young inexperienced girls. That's human nature or creepy old man nature, it's the same everywhere anytime. There's a variation what percent of the market (demand) is involved and how well can the supply (studios/idols) tracks the demand. What I mean here is that vice laws and police (understandably) target this market segment and at least American studios respond to the feminists by making pretty much every porn actress into sex-crazed sluts. To deal with accusation of "objectifying women", they make the women super sex hungry. So American studios has problem feeding the demands for young innocent girls, but the demands is still there.

Japan's much weaker feminism movement is part reason you can get these girlish (even loli!) porn.

That's getting really OT, the point is that these "inexperienced girl gets fucked" genre should NOT negative affect the kind of vids made by career idols including Rion. Like, there's a major genre for r***s of various variations, but I think pretty much most fans understand that most of the vids were made under consent. The character in the filmed is attacked, tied up and r***ing against consent, but the idol/actress were doing it as a performance only. Right!? So sure I won't mind seeing Rion (or more typically we get more girlish looking idols like Atomi Shuri or Hibiki Otsuki) make vids like these, but I think it makes so sense that the actress herself is typecast so rigidly that she can't ever make some femdom or cherryboy hunt type of vids.

So when will Rion break her S-class typecast or as I mentioned princess/goddess mold?

I agree Saki Okuda vids are often better than Rion's, I'm just arguing it's not that Rion's skills are lower, but her goddess physique makes the studios treat her like fine porcelain.

that the day I will looking forward

I'm curious if Rion finally can get out from her comfort zone, and dare to do more, if she can do more thats awesome but at least she should do what Julia had done
 

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that the day I will looking forward

I'm curious if Rion finally can get out from her comfort zone, and dare to do more, if she can do more thats awesome but at least she should do what Julia had done

The better question is does she want to leave that comfort zone? she has a very comfy job, where she's going to make a very steady income why should she ever consider leaving that comfort zone?
 
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What I mean here is that vice laws and police (understandably) target this market segment and at least American studios respond to the feminists by making pretty much every porn actress into sex-crazed sluts. To deal with accusation of "objectifying women", they make the women super sex hungry.

Do you really think that is enough to appease a lumberjack with hoop earrings?

http://web.archive.org/web/20121219.../porn-part-10-the-rutting-dogs-of-capitalism/

"For those of you new to the site, I call the porn industry the “commercial r*** industry” because the women in porn are paid for consent they would not otherwise furnish. If someone has to be paid to consent to something, they have not actually consented to it but have rather agreed not to make their non-consent an issue in exchange for money."

The point isn't to appease the crazies & nazis, the industry just need to adjust enough for the US gov off their case.

The "crazies & nazis" have alot of political power if you haven't already noticed.
 
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The better question is does she want to leave that comfort zone? she has a very comfy job, where she's going to make a very steady income why should she ever consider leaving that comfort zone?

correct

if she still want to continue her career in AV, but don't get offer from vanilla studios

like Shiori Kamisaki and Aimi Yoshikawa
 

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Do you really think that is enough to appease a lumberjack with hoop earrings?
The point isn't to appease the crazies & nazis, the industry just need to adjust enough for the US gov off their case. Another key battle is the GFs and wives of the guys who buy porn. To erase or at least reduce the feminist powertrip rage that might be from feminist brainwashing propaganda.
 

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USA is a very puritan society. It has nothing to do with feminism. Porn producers don't give a shit about feminists anyways. That's not their audience. But there is little conflict between porn and feminism anyways. Feminists may criticize certain things about porn, but we all do that, even here on Akiba-Online. Overall, feminists are not more anti-porn than the average person. Anti-porn attitudes existed before feminism, and in fact I am pretty sure anti-porn attitudes used to be much worse. Because liberating women also includes sexual liberation. Porn has become more widespread as feminism has become more widespread. There is no correlation at all between the rise of feminism and the suppression or censorship of porn. Your constant, angry anti-feminist rants say more about your personality than they do about feminists. Since you hate feminism so much, go live in Saudi Arabia, I am sure you will find lots of great porn there.
 
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USA is a very puritan society. It has nothing to do with feminism. Porn producers don't give a shit about feminists anyways. That's not their audience. But there is little conflict between porn and feminism anyways. Feminists may criticize certain things about porn, but we all do that, even here on Akiba-Online. Overall, feminists are not more anti-porn than the average person. Anti-porn attitudes existed before feminism, and in fact I am pretty sure anti-porn attitudes used to be much worse. Because liberating women also includes sexual liberation. Porn has become more widespread as feminism has become more widespread. There is no correlation at all between the rise of feminism and the suppression or censorship of porn. Your constant, angry anti-feminist rants say more about your personality than they do about feminists. Since you hate feminism so much, go live in Saudi Arabia, I am sure you will find lots of great porn there.
You need to get out more. While not all feminists are completely against pornography, many are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography
 
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Sorry the topic is really derailed!

Whatever the reason, US porn has gone a little berserk, esp. the tattoo, shaved head and too many piercing. Is that really what the porn customers want?

So the reason to bring up US is that while JAV is free from the US constrains, there are other very weird unspoken rules that keep Rion and other goddesses from make normal kind of AV. I mean really I am not asking for anything out there such as gokkun or tentacle porn. Just the normal type of AV such as Atomi Shuri, Hibiki Otsuki, Shunka Ayami, Ayumi Shinoda. Same as US porn oddity, JAV oddity is equally based on perception not reality (adult entertainment economy).
 

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Whatever the reason, US porn has gone a little berserk, esp. the tattoo, shaved head and too many piercing. Is that really what the porn customers want?

nope

girls with tattoo can be sexy, but combination of fake boobs, shaved head, too many piercing and too many tattoo are the reason why I'm not watching US porn anymore
 
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nope

girls with tattoo can be sexy, but combination of fake boobs, shaved head, too many piercing and too many tattoo are the reason why I'm not watching US porn anymore

Yep. For tattoo, when they are well done, it's really nice. Unfortunately, when I see people with tattoo, 95% have ugly ones. And I'm not even talking about the "names" tattoo trend :(

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This kind of tattoo are great. The colors, the lines, ... And right above the boobs, :rolleyes:
 
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Yep. For tattoo, when they are well done, it's really nice. Unfortunately, when I see people with tattoo, 95% have ugly ones. And I'm not even talking about the "names" tattoo trend :(

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This kind of tattoo are great. The colors, the lines, ... And right above the boobs, :rolleyes:

Whatever floats your boat.

I personally find tattoos to always be a huge turnoff.
 
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Yep. For tattoo, when they are well done, it's really nice. Unfortunately, when I see people with tattoo, 95% have ugly ones. And I'm not even talking about the "names" tattoo trend :(

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This kind of tattoo are great. The colors, the lines, ... And right above the boobs, :rolleyes:

yes, I agree, mostly tattoo ruined the girl's sex appeal because I prefer smooth & clean skin

if Rion have tattoo, I'm sure will ruin her sex appeal

but some girls looks better or more hot with tattoo
 
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Tattoos are fine if it's decorative, and for a non-ugly girl, naturally it can't be too large or outrageous. Say up to 3x6 cm it can add some edge or altitude and unique personality.

But too often tattoos is used as a statement on its own: "I'm fringe, I'm outrageous." "I love physical pain, I'm weird". Once you went down that path, physical beauty become second (or fifth) priority, which is bad for porn.

(going further OT) one genre of JAV that's missing and I'm constantly wondering about is yakuza porn or yakuza-fantasy porn. If you don't know what I mean: check out Crying Freeman. A woman, invariably beautiful, almost supernaturally beautiful, would have her whole body covered in tattoo as a sign of devotion to a yakuza boss, since tattoo is a proof of devotion and manhood and bravery, the woman also become magcially feminine by doing this very manly thing. Of course I don't suggest any AV actress get any real tattoo, but why not use temporary tattoo to make a yakuza fantasy porn? Won't you like to see Rion full body tattoo, only for one vid (better perhaps, just one scene)?
 

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Tattoos are fine if it's decorative, and for a non-ugly girl, naturally it can't be too large or outrageous. Say up to 3x6 cm it can add some edge or altitude and unique personality.

But too often tattoos is used as a statement on its own: "I'm fringe, I'm outrageous." "I love physical pain, I'm weird". Once you went down that path, physical beauty become second (or fifth) priority, which is bad for porn.

(going further OT) one genre of JAV that's missing and I'm constantly wondering about is yakuza porn or yakuza-fantasy porn. If you don't know what I mean: check out Crying Freeman. A woman, invariably beautiful, almost supernaturally beautiful, would have her whole body covered in tattoo as a sign of devotion to a yakuza boss, since tattoo is a proof of devotion and manhood and bravery, the woman also become magcially feminine by doing this very manly thing. Of course I don't suggest any AV actress get any real tattoo, but why not use temporary tattoo to make a yakuza fantasy porn? Won't you like to see Rion full body tattoo, only for one vid (better perhaps, just one scene)?

agree with you that JAV currently lack of yakuza fantasy, recently I seen Yuni and Kuga Iijima who have large yakuza's style tattoo, hope they will make bad girls theme videos

I think Rion is not suitable with large tattoo
 
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I'm waiting for the orgy S1 all stars video : Rion, Tsukasa Aoi, Jessica Kizaki, Tia, Suzu Mitake, Minami Kojima, Saki Okuda
 
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