Servicing the Boss Under His Table

[asdfaznz]

Lol applaud my external, poor thing only has about 100 GB left.

What sucks is the scene is only about 30 seconds long since its kind of the movie epilogue

RBD-088 Yuuna Takizawa Woman of Chastity Belt

This also has one of your favorite "Ladies on the Side" Yuki Tsukamoto playing a more active role in the movie, getting some of her own service under the table, although its a different kind of service

 

[jugulear]

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Son of a ... that's the second example you came up with in a very short time. You're cookin', Asdfaznz.

It seems to me a lot of these examples last only around thirty seconds long... and they come up in the epilogue, or movie finale. (It's precisely these end scenes that need to be extended, because they signify the lady has been completely wrecked... which makes this kind of scene so hot.)

It was thanks to Asdfaznz's pointing out of SSPD-053 on the previous page that I noticed Yuki Tsukamoto (A.K.A. Chiyuki Makimoto)... and subsequently paid her tribute on the "JAV Ladies on the Side" thread. (It looks like she is playing a similar bad girl part, here.) She's extremely lovely, I think, but... I don't like that foot of hers, from the above photo. (I'm so mean.)

For those who may be interested, there is a big series behind "Women in Chastity Belt."


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[jakart3]

did this kind of feat with my coworker,
not really under the desk, because it's difficult for her to move her head under the table, lol,

verry thrilling i say, i need to activate cctv, and look up to the door, just in case someone pop out,

 

[asdfaznz]

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Son of a ... that's the second example you came up with in a very short time. You're cookin', Asdfaznz.

It seems to me a lot of these examples last only around thirty seconds long... and they come up in the epilogue, or movie finale. (It's precisely these end scenes that need to be extended, because they signify the lady has been completely wrecked... which makes this kind of scene so hot.)

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I agree, its a shame most of them are short and serve as epilogues, the concept is very kinky and sexy.

This thread made me recall another vid that I have in my external.

MADM-010 Ayumi Shinoda Public Bath Employee Fallen Into Trap as Sex Slave

Her boss plants a wallet in her locker and unable to prove her innocence, Ayumi-san must do whatever her perverted boss wants, including servicing him under the front desk as customers come in.

Although shes not completely nude just the way I like it also, its a full scene that lasts 10 minutes and she does eventually take off her top to alternate a blowjob/boobjob till he cums.

 

[jugulear]

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MADM-010 appears to be a good one! I have mixed feelings regarding Ayumi Shinoda, but she can be very good as a flustered victim. (513 MB)



Daydream Office: You Can Sexually Harass This Office Lady As Much As You Want She Won't Complain [ADZ-275], with Riona Minami


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[Motiman]

I agree, its a shame most of them are short and serve as epilogues, the concept is very kinky and sexy.

This thread made me recall another vid that I have in my external.

MADM-010 Ayumi Shinoda Public Bath Employee Fallen Into Trap as Sex Slave

Her boss plants a wallet in her locker and unable to prove her innocence, Ayumi-san must do whatever her perverted boss wants, including servicing him under the front desk as customers come in.

Although shes not completely nude just the way I like it also, its a full scene that lasts 10 minutes and she does eventually take off her top to alternate a blowjob/boobjob till he cums.

For me, behind the counter sex is just as good as under the table naughtiness. The same principles apply as it's all about being hidden just out of sight. The level of danger remains as we see just how close they are to getting caught out which just acts to ramp up the sexiness of it all.

 

[asdfaznz]

For me, behind the counter sex is just as good as under the table naughtiness. The same principles apply as it's all about being hidden just out of sight. The level of danger remains as we see just how close they are to getting caught out which just acts to ramp up the sexiness of it all.

I agree, I didn't have a problem with it, I just share jugulear's sentiments that these type of scenes are best when the girl is completely nude.

EC-074 Keep on Endless Ectasy to Resolute Career Woman

 

[jugulear]

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Another fine example with "Ecstasy Assuredness Person - Very Capable Careerwoman Almost Displacing Hips Done to the Point of Almost Not Being Able to Stand"... and judging by the screen shots for this now-obscure movie (e.g., R18 has evidently skipped listing it), a fun film. I love the way you're dipping into the vault for your examples, Asdfaznz... with flicks few must be aware of. (I'm gathering your collection goes back years, lucky you.)

Spoiler: EC-074's Translated Plot Description

Charismatic career woman to be successful the huge project to bring the man of subordinates Reika. Fellow to be jealous of such she plunge into hell Reika work evil. Heartless of Deep Throating to Reika to resistance in suits! And repeated hard piston persistently higher waist comes out! Of course, last cum! You Shiteyari the can pride of a woman to shreds!

Reflecting on Motiman's comment, I completely agree that "behind the counter sex is just as good as under the table naughtiness" because of 'the level of danger" in regard to "getting caught." For some of us, however, there is that additional level of the boxed-into-a-corner women feeling like they have no choice, which adds to the degree of kinkiness. (Naturally, this factor exists with some Behind-the-Counter set-ups, as well.)


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Ruri Shirota in Two Office Ladies Separated For Their Actions Surprisingly Real Workplace Harassment! [TMVI-057], also featuring Shiona Suzumori

In contrast to the promise of the title, the "harassment" is never seen, and at least this first lady seemed delighted to perform her servicing; so this movie does not serve as a prime example.


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[Motiman]

I completely get what you're saying jug. Having power and control over a woman is definitely a very strong desire a lot of men have and it's something that is certainly catered for in the porn industry as a whole.

 

[kharo88]

So I wrote this comment then deleted it because I didn't want to go off-topic, but it's the discussion section, after all, so here it is:

I totally agree with Motiman, but I never understood that and honestly, I despise guys like that, especially because those guys are (or to me, come off as) base animals who use that power and control over women to degrade and humiliate them while satisfying themselves at the same time - and the worst thing is that they also tend to think that women enjoy that. I mean, do you also beat up children and the elderly? Like, come on... Unfortunately, like Motiman said, porn caters to them a lot. And on the other end of the spectrum is what the Japanese call the M man - a total wuss. Those are the two types of males I see in Japanese porn all the time, and if those are of any indication of reality, no wonder that the population is declining over there.

Now keep in mind that yes, this is just my opinion and my impression, and yeah, there are more than two types of men out there and I know that not every guy who enjoys having control is like what I described above or a control freak, but I must admit whenever I see that in porn I get a bit... upset, I guess.

 

[asdfaznz]

A porn forum isn't really the place to be waving a moral compass.

 

[jugulear]

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Oh, no! Kharo88 was not saying as much "porn is sick," but rather, "I don't think this kind of porn is good"... and that kind of invigorating conversation is great. This thread may not have been the best place to get into that, as he mentioned, but (far as I'm concerned), it's okay when threads briefly go off the main topic. ("It's the discussion section, after all.")

Coincidentally, I have just read a wonderful article (which does not relate perfectly to what Kharo88 addressed, but I'll be getting to that) in TIME Magazine, that generally takes things a little farther, as far as the detrimental effects of porn. It's called "Porn and the Threat to Virility" (looks like no free version is available, but for you to get an idea), in regard to how the younger generation, now awash with the easy availability of all types of porn, has become desensitized to real sex and real women. That is just awful... the sight of a beautiful naked woman not doing it for a young man, because he has been so saturated with pornography. (In Japan, we have been reading about the new class of "herbivore" men, who are not exactly influenced by the same things, but there is probably a relation.)

In addition, I can also believe how an immature young male mind can think of women contemptuously, sometimes to the point of misogyny.

While seeing if I could get a link for the mentioned article, I ran into a similar piece called (in its subtitle), "In the end, porn doesn't whet men's appetites—it turns them off the real thing." The author is a level-headed feminist whom I respect (Naomi Wolf... you've got to be careful about these "porn and women" articles written by women), and I loved the way she began her article, reminding us of what Andrea Dworkin thought. The latter was (to put it crudely and unfairly) a "crazy feminist," who did a lot of harm to society along with her like-minded extremist sisters (which ultimately led to the "Feminist Backlash"). Naomi Wolf wrote that Andrea Dworkin was wrong in her prediction of what too much porn would lead to, turning men into rapacious beasts. Apparently, the effect was exactly the opposite! (Hah!)

The TIME article had a sidebar article called "How Porn Is Changing a Generation of Girls," which made me first think, "Oh, good! An article that expounds on how porn has positively affected girls, now that more girls are watching porn"... but, no, written by a lady, the article instead made conclusions that I sometimes found were a bit too hysterical. Some points, however, were valid; I can believe, given that there are a lot of stupid young men who are brainwashed by too much porn, how young women could feel pressured in now competing with the fantasy feminine ideal. (Naomi Wolf also touched on this aspect, and she did a better job.)

A sad outcome of porn-related young feminine insecurity is "Why More Teen Girls Are Getting Genital Plastic Surgery" (article; frankly, this development makes me sick; also, in regard to the main northern level of their feminine charms, "More than 8,000 teen girls received augmentation breast surgery in 2014"... although this latter outcome may not always be porn-related, given the pressures of society in general).. and fortunately we JAV viewers are still reminded that female pubic hair is the natural way a woman looks, but impressionable young male minds weaned on porn may easily feel disgust at the real-life sight of a "hairy pussy."

So we love porn... but let's face it. There is a downside. The downside is not in the way porn has usually been criticized, in the fashion that Andrea Dworkin forecasted (at least in terms of r***, although I would not be surprised if weaker men are now beginning to feel they have a license to treat women roughly... then again, weaker men have always thought that), but it's not all happy-land.

Getting back to what Kharo88 specifically criticized, porn caters to all whims. There are some categories that most of us would find objectionable, such as scat... but who are we to judge? Diff'rent "strokes" (heh), you know. Yet for those of us who are mature enough to know the difference, we would be served best by remembering it's all a fantasy. Just as Kharo88, I, too, "despise... guys ... (coming off as)... base animals who use that power and control over women to degrade and humiliate them while satisfying themselves at the same time." What real man wouldn't? But that's in real life.


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[kharo88]

I haven't read the articles yet (I'll probably do so on Monday when I'll have some more time), but based on what you wrote about those articles I think they (and some of your own thoughts - which I agree with -) invalidate your very last sentence ("But that's in real life."). "Those of us who are mature enough" - that's exactly it. Sure, we know that it's just a fantasy, but some people (impressionable young male minds, as you put it) will think that that's normal, that that's how it should be in real life, and when even girls start acting like that because that's what they see in the media... (especially if those girls don't like it but they do it because they feel pressured to do it due to the media) that's just horrible. And yeah, I do agree that for some people, these fantasies actually help blow off steam and are a positive thing in that way, but, like I said, it can really mess up others. Unfortunately, the media can and do influence a lot of people just like you wrote ("there are a lot of stupid young men who are brainwashed by too much porn, how young women could feel pressured in now competing with the fantasy feminine ideal." and "More than 8,000 teen girls received augmentation breast surgery in 2014"). In fact, I'm pretty sure that the media and the pressure that it can put on people are in huge part responsible for my precious little Cyndi Wang ruining her looks... And so I think it would be great if there were more out there in JAV than just the aggressive animal and the M man, because, like I said, those two types of guys are the kind that I usually come across in JAV, which often makes it difficult for me to enjoy a film (although I tend to go for the ones where the guy is the "M man", because at least the actress seems to enjoy herself then which is a must for me). It would be really nice to see some guys who fall in between.

As for the different strokes - yes, to each his own, sure. Like I said, I do believe (and hope) that r*** titles help some guys live out their fantasies alone and prevents them from committing one of the most awful crimes, but I also think that it takes others down a very wrong path. In fact, I recall reading about a successful Japanese musician who got taken to court by a girl who said that he r***ing her, and then more than ten other girls (I don't remember the exact number) came forward saying that he r***ing them too.

Anyway, this is something that has always bothered me whenever I came across it, and Motiman's comment made it seem like the right opportunity to talk about it.

 

[jugulear]

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Unfortunately, Kharo88, there is no utopia. I, too, believe there are instances where violent porn can get weaker-minded men to commit crimes in real life (although the technical evidence is not there; for example, in the USA, the Meese Report under the society-debilitating administration of Ronald Reagan tried very, very hard to find a link between pornography and violence), or even to mess with their minds, but the solution would be censorship. Censorship would not only vastly be the greater evil because it would prohibit the mature-thinking ones among us from choices, but even worse, censorship opens doors to greater censorship. In the 1950s United States, comic books came under great fire for being guilty of (as the famous book was titled) "Seduction of the Innocent," and violent movies and video games are always a favorite target of simplistic do-gooders.

Fortunately, most of us are capable of distinguishing between right and wrong (or between fantasy and reality, at least in terms of violent criminal activity), and countries or territories (India, Sudan, United States Indian reservations, etc., etc.) that experience "mass" r*** are affected by toothless law enforcement rather than the ill-effects of porn). Relatively crime-free Japan is itself our most relevant example.


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[Ghostbird]

The gynocentrism is getting really strong here.

 

[kharo88]

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Unfortunately, Kharo88, there is no utopia. I, too, believe there are instances where violent porn can get weaker-minded men to commit crimes in real life (although the technical evidence is not there; for example, in the USA, the Meese Report under the society-debilitating administration of Ronald Reagan tried very, very hard to find a link between pornography and violence), or even to mess with their minds, but the solution would be censorship. Censorship would not only vastly be the greater evil because it would prohibit the mature-thinking ones among us from choices, but even worse, censorship opens doors to greater censorship. In the 1950s United States, comic books came under great fire for being guilty of (as the famous book was titled) "Seduction of the Innocent," and violent movies and video games are always a favorite target of simplistic do-gooders.

Fortunately, most of us are capable of distinguishing between right and wrong (or between fantasy and reality, at least in terms of violent criminal activity), and countries or territories (India, Sudan, United States Indian reservations, etc., etc.) that experience "mass" r*** are affected by toothless law enforcement rather than the ill-effects of porn). Relatively crime-free Japan is itself our most relevant example.


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Oh yeah, you don't have to tell me that there is no utopia... As for censorship, I don't agree with you that that would be the solution - I don't know if you've heard how bad the situation is in China, but if porn weren't forbidden maybe it could be different... granted, even with the censorship in place many Chinese people do get to watch porn, so who knows? In any case, I do believe that a degree of censorship can help (for example, protecting younger people like that article that you posted in the news section was talking about), but, like I said in my previous comments, I think showing a wider range of male characters could go a long way in showing people that you don't have to be a base animal (or a wuss in JAV's case), and including a lot more romantic themes would probably help, too. I guess there are films like that made for women, but I don't think that those are anywhere near as well-known as your average porn film that's made by men for men.

By the way, I managed to read the articles that you included in that comment, and boy are they better at expressing themselves than I am - but then again, that's why they are the professionals. The thing is, I didn't even know that it was that bad in the US as I haven't watched western porn for many years now. Some of those statistics are really disturbing.

 

[asdfaznz]

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Oh, no! Kharo88 was not saying as much "porn is sick," but rather, "I don't think this kind of porn is good"... and that kind of invigorating conversation is great. This thread may not have been the best place to get into that, as he mentioned, but (far as I'm concerned), it's okay when threads briefly go off the main topic. ("It's the discussion section, after all.")

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I understand that but it wasn't "I don't think this kind of porn is good" but rather "I don't think this kind of porn is right because its degrading to women" and its just a pointless argument to have because that argument is flawed from its foundation. ALL porn is degrading to women. They're having sex in a front of a camera for money. Not to mention the unwritten rule in this forum "if you don't like it just ignore it don't bash it".

And its silly to assume that if women were to watch porn or have sex they want it to only be romanticized. Rocco Siffredi wouldn't be one of the most popular male porn stars in the world if that was the case. If all women don't get aroused by rough sex with slapping and other submissive acts, Rocco would have nothing to shoot because no women would want to work with him.

 

[kharo88]

Oh man, it seems like everyone sees what they want to see when it comes to interpreting what others wrote! My very first comment was about my strong negative feelings towards the base animal kind of male. Do I like that kind of porn in which that "character" stars? Definitely not. But what I said is that "I never understood that". And I don't agree with the statement that ALL porn is degrading to women. This is an extreme, of course, but just look at porn in which women play dominatrixes - the whole thing is reversed there and they don't even have sex.

I take it your last paragraph, too, is directed at me because of what I wrote in my previous comment, but again, I never said anything like that. I simply said that I think more diversity would help, which includes shooting more romantic films, then proceeded to mention that there are films like that made by women for women (oh, and I just remembered - romance novels!). Nowhere did I write that women in general prefer that kind of porn as I have no idea, but yeah, I'm very well aware that there are women who like it rough or some even like getting choked during sex etc. - that's just another thing that I won't ever understand.

As for that guy - I've never heard of him, but I bet if you pay some women enough money they'll do whatever with whomever, so don't worry, I'm pretty sure he'll still have his job regardless of everything else.

 

[asdfaznz]

Oh man, it seems like everyone sees what they want to see when it comes to interpreting what others wrote!

That kinda happens in a discussion, but I apologize if you are offended by my interpretation.

but, like I said in my previous comments, I think showing a wider range of male characters could go a long way in showing people that you don't have to be a base animal (or a wuss in JAV's case), and including a lot more romantic themes would probably help, too.

I take it your last paragraph, too, is directed at me because of what I wrote in my previous comment, but again, I never said anything like that. I simply said that I think more diversity would help, which includes shooting more romantic films, then proceeded to mention that there are films like that made by women for women (oh, and I just remembered - romance novels!).

It COULD happen, more romantic themed porn being released that is. If theres an audience for a certain genre they will cater to it. They already recognize that there are some women that watch porn which is why Ideapocket every so often releases a Shimiken video such as IDBD158

BUT as far as showing Japanese men that they don't have to be a base animal, thats who they are so there won't be any social reform anytime soon. The reason why so much of JAV is r***-themed or in the case of our discussion, men acting as base animals, is because they can't prostitute Korean and Chinese women into sex slaves anymore like they did in the past, so they just have to resort to living out their fantasies in JAV.

 

[Ghostbird]

I honestly don't get why manlet is the award winning actor,

when there are others who are way better performers like debut guy

http://warashi-asian-pornstars.fr/en/s-3-0/masatoshi-kuroda/asian-male-pornstar/37

this guy when it comes to r*** scenes

http://warashi-asian-pornstars.fr/en/s-3-0/jitta-hanaoka/asian-male-pornstar/13

and there are better looking guys like orangutan guy

http://warashi-asian-pornstars.fr/en/s-3-0/yoshiya-minami/asian-male-pornstar/19