She's definitely not the type of typical MUTEKI release. Her body's totally not that great (5/10 maybe?) and her scenes were also not that exciting. To be honest, actresses/real celeb debuts are lacking something for quite some time. Everything's the same all the time, nothing that would make me really expect something from them. Been waiting for a real debut for ages and found nothing actually good so far since Yua Mukami (and even she wasn't that great back then, but she had a nice body).
Any REAL celebrities turned to JAV in Japan?
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Well I don't think Muteki had a minimal standard for the beauty of the celeb, just any kind of celeb will do. OTOH, Prestige brand image is beautiful vanilla ladies (i.e. not super busty, not slim, not chubby, not loli, not MILF, not GAL) doing vanilla sex. So she seems much more typical for Muteki than Prestige.
By a strange rule of conservation of mediocrity, it's typical that a vid or an idol who's good at one aspect would be un-amazing or even lacking in other aspects. So... (most famously) one with amazing tits would be lacking in libido and/or pretended libido. Another who's good with almost every aspects, would look more mature than her real age.
So with "celeb" being a merit, it's almost required to have some demerits in some other aspects, e.g. asymmetric tits, or really really poor inexperienced sexual performance.
For us in the non-Japanese speaking world, mostly these celeb don't mean much to us. When a celeb-to-porn gossip pops up, almost 100% we have to research who she is. We can't judge say, wow A is still a top 5 TV star for last 2 years, or B was that hostess/mistress for some local politician a few years ago , or C doesn't ring a bell right away, but says she's been a full member of a pop group that I heard of before, or D was WHO??? oh she was in some sports and almost made national team and never went to Olympics or anything, or E was WHO AGAIN? she put on an animal costume for a TV commercial ages ago. If we don't have that celeb awareness that Japan locals have then celeb-porn means what? Pretty empty gimmick.
Mostly I follow celeb-porn just for the porn, so a forgettable AKB member (Yua) vs a once-hot gravue star (Shoko) vs. a shrimp in a 15 seconds TV commercial (not kidding there was such a "celeb"-porn!) all don't make a difference to me. I only fap to the nudity/sex on screen. So thanks to the conservation of mediocrity celeb-porn aren't that good, on average. So far we had two exceptions (recently) : both Yua and Shoko are huge success. Yes everyone has his judgement of them. But DMM sales ranking is a as subjective as it gets. You may not like her but she's a (commercial) success.
By a strange rule of conservation of mediocrity, it's typical that a vid or an idol who's good at one aspect would be un-amazing or even lacking in other aspects. So... (most famously) one with amazing tits would be lacking in libido and/or pretended libido. Another who's good with almost every aspects, would look more mature than her real age.
So with "celeb" being a merit, it's almost required to have some demerits in some other aspects, e.g. asymmetric tits, or really really poor inexperienced sexual performance.
For us in the non-Japanese speaking world, mostly these celeb don't mean much to us. When a celeb-to-porn gossip pops up, almost 100% we have to research who she is. We can't judge say, wow A is still a top 5 TV star for last 2 years, or B was that hostess/mistress for some local politician a few years ago , or C doesn't ring a bell right away, but says she's been a full member of a pop group that I heard of before, or D was WHO??? oh she was in some sports and almost made national team and never went to Olympics or anything, or E was WHO AGAIN? she put on an animal costume for a TV commercial ages ago. If we don't have that celeb awareness that Japan locals have then celeb-porn means what? Pretty empty gimmick.
Mostly I follow celeb-porn just for the porn, so a forgettable AKB member (Yua) vs a once-hot gravue star (Shoko) vs. a shrimp in a 15 seconds TV commercial (not kidding there was such a "celeb"-porn!) all don't make a difference to me. I only fap to the nudity/sex on screen. So thanks to the conservation of mediocrity celeb-porn aren't that good, on average. So far we had two exceptions (recently) : both Yua and Shoko are huge success. Yes everyone has his judgement of them. But DMM sales ranking is a as subjective as it gets. You may not like her but she's a (commercial) success.
Thanks for the Korean post!
Hi Folks may have posted this is Korean section but worth a mention here:
The Korean cutie that turns up in the gold paradoies etc. "Chaerin" チェリン used to be a Korean actress Lee Chae-dam (이채담)
http://www.hancinema.net/korean_Lee_Chae-dam.php
http://www.mgstage.com/product/product_detail/308KAI-026/
100% agree, that was a fairly garbage debut
I don't think Muteki would debut her, there's nothing about her that says she'd even fit there a little.
"Discovered" an old old "celeb" to AV. Minami Hirahara 平原みなみ active in AV for just over 1 year in 2012. Supposedly former AKB "research student".
@paparoach408 tell us about her J-pop history?
@paparoach408 tell us about her J-pop history?
The only 48 girl of any significance to do porn is Yua Mikami, and even then she was pretty low-tier in terms of popularity. I think if you asked a bunch of Japanese people, even otakus, who this girl was, they wouldn't know.
ZEX back in the day had like 3 girls they claimed to be research students for akb her, Machiko Ono and someone else who i forgot, when in actuality none of them where, they must of just tried out, because they are in none of the old research student list. All I know about her is she likes trains
Rina Nakanishi aka Rico Yamaguchi is still probably the most significant actual top tier 48 girl to do JAV, she was one of the faces in the early days of AKB, while she may have not been the most prolific(2010-2011, for Alice Japan and SOD) she was the first, and only "legit" AKB member to do porn, and her sister also joined but they where only in it for money and left when they where able to pay off there debts
Then there was Risa Naruse aka Haruna Aisaka(2013-2017) who was in AKB for less then a year carved out a good career, but rumors where that she was difficult to work with, and she gets no work.
The third big one Pre Yua Mikami was Eri Takamatsu aka Risa Tachibana who was a big deal, and a big seller. She was around for a short time(2013), but she spilled the beans on the fucked up idol industry and how it lead her to JAV after she was kicked out for a boyfriend scandal.
There's also another active girl doing porn with actual AKB links Ryo Sakata aka Miu Sana she was a candidate for like a few months before leaving in 06. Maxing thought she'd be big stuff because of her akb links but she failed, and they cut her 4 movies in, she's still around(maybe) but doesn't much work.
There are two others with some akb links but didn't care enough to post them because one did 1 probably fake penetration movie for Muteki, and the other is Nana Mizushima who is with prestige, and is terrible.
I'm just waiting for the next celebrity to drop, it's been a fairly boring few months in regards to that
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The list of former AKB48 trainees is so long that it does not look like any wiki dedicated to the 48 groups are even bothering to record them anymore. They only keep track of members who actually got promoted into a group before they left. Those who never made the step up are mostly forgotten except for the few early ones.
It won't be surprising if any of these former trainees delved into porn or risque gravure, but for the most part its like paparoach said - even idol fans will struggle to place the face if she was only a trainee.
It won't be surprising if any of these former trainees delved into porn or risque gravure, but for the most part its like paparoach said - even idol fans will struggle to place the face if she was only a trainee.
Stage48 is the best, they have every member who was a trainee or a member of one of there groups, if they where a member/trainee we'd know, know we don't know everyone who ever tried out though, and that's impossible to know and they where most likely someone that tried out
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/AKB48_Kenkyuusei
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How about Riina Aizawa, an 19 years old "active erotic idol" who has some nude gravue, and IV?
Anyone can comment the celeb-worthiness of her?
I had a look at her vid, nice body, big but not mega-tits. Face value is so so, solid 7, I guess. Doesn't have much of Shokotas' star quality.
Anyone can comment the celeb-worthiness of her?
I had a look at her vid, nice body, big but not mega-tits. Face value is so so, solid 7, I guess. Doesn't have much of Shokotas' star quality.
another "Idol"
http://www.tokyokinky.com/former-nagoya-idol-announces-porn-debut/
Tina Nanami from Chika Idol
she already did a nude video, and her full debut is January
http://www.tokyokinky.com/former-nagoya-idol-announces-porn-debut/
Tina Nanami from Chika Idol
she already did a nude video, and her full debut is January
A certain unknown (to me) studio puts out this awesome awesome cover.
A quick google on the idol's name 木南ほのか is at least supporting the claims on the cover: that she was a former member of a J-pop group. She has a twitter account @kinamihonoka and push out an insane amount of fluffs. Hoepfully this is sign that she is serious about her JAV career.
My near-zero Japanese skill on a single internet page suggests she was 七瀬菜七 of the group
バクステ外神田一丁目. I have no idea how important she was in that group, and how serious that group is.
Come to think of it, her case or a very similar case was part of the discussion on this thread, no?
PS: super quick review: SKMJ-026
As expected, the vid cover and all her twitter selfies are heavily doctored. There were some hints of it prior to the drop of the actual vid, so I was mentally prepared for the worst. When vid starts rolling, she turns out not the worst case scenario. Yes she has a big, HUGE face. And under that very cute uniform, she seems meaty but not a huge pig. She did a little bit of dance moves (but maybe 3 years away from the stage makes her rather rusty). She mouthed some fragments of lyrics but seems more muttering to herself to help recall the dance move rather than risking us hearing her singing. Still... broken bits of dance moves that otherwise would be painful is quite amazing for a JAV.
So we got to nudity and sex. Turns out she has B-minus tits to go with her big-big-bone figure. Her ass is also rather weak, neither supple nor firm-toned. Well at least her skin isn't very bad.
I won't say I regret getting,and spending so many keystrokes on this vid (a very very average girl doing sex, some with J-popish uniform), but very hard to imagine what magic they could pull to make me download, watch or even pay any attention or curiosity to her after this debut vid.
I can't believe last post was only 4 months ago. Feels like years! Is there no more interest in this topic???
This one just came out last month, MIFD-070 with Yui Nagase 永瀬ゆい
She is 飯島里奈 from the J-pop group バクステ外神田一丁目 based in Akihabara. The group is big enough that they actually have an English wiki page Bakusute Sotokanda Icchome.
According to various Chinese sources, there were already four JAV idols coming out of BSI: the previous four are : 桜もこ, 木南ほのか, 千早希, 知花みく. That's pretty remarkable if you ask me.
One curious thing is Yui Nagase lost almost 3 years to her age during the transition from J-pop to JAV. Her J-pop birthday was 1997/3/12, her AV birthday is 1999/11/30. Fake birthday is nothing special for either J-pop or JAV. But how weird the AV industry market Yui as a "Sotokanda Icchome" idol wanting the fans to "discover" her J-pop identity but shamelessly fake her a new (impossibly) younger age.
Quoting my own post for MIFD-070:
the last scene (exhausted) WOW what a bonus, she put on a j-pop costume and put on a full dance routine (her wasn't even mouthing the song so not assuming it's her vocal) and even with a pair those overpriced growsticks, and disco light effects. WOOOOOO I jumped on my bed and danced along, wearing no pants. Then two studs (fans?) proceed to fuck her without (fully) taking off her costume. Ahh such a shame the director didn't think to shove the growstick in her. The whole vid is great, but I might have to cut out this scene for (many many) repeated viewings. I am not fan of A-cups, under-heighted girls, sex with cloths on, but man they somehow made it work.
This one just came out last month, MIFD-070 with Yui Nagase 永瀬ゆい
She is 飯島里奈 from the J-pop group バクステ外神田一丁目 based in Akihabara. The group is big enough that they actually have an English wiki page Bakusute Sotokanda Icchome.
According to various Chinese sources, there were already four JAV idols coming out of BSI: the previous four are : 桜もこ, 木南ほのか, 千早希, 知花みく. That's pretty remarkable if you ask me.
One curious thing is Yui Nagase lost almost 3 years to her age during the transition from J-pop to JAV. Her J-pop birthday was 1997/3/12, her AV birthday is 1999/11/30. Fake birthday is nothing special for either J-pop or JAV. But how weird the AV industry market Yui as a "Sotokanda Icchome" idol wanting the fans to "discover" her J-pop identity but shamelessly fake her a new (impossibly) younger age.
Quoting my own post for MIFD-070:
the last scene (exhausted) WOW what a bonus, she put on a j-pop costume and put on a full dance routine (her wasn't even mouthing the song so not assuming it's her vocal) and even with a pair those overpriced growsticks, and disco light effects. WOOOOOO I jumped on my bed and danced along, wearing no pants. Then two studs (fans?) proceed to fuck her without (fully) taking off her costume. Ahh such a shame the director didn't think to shove the growstick in her. The whole vid is great, but I might have to cut out this scene for (many many) repeated viewings. I am not fan of A-cups, under-heighted girls, sex with cloths on, but man they somehow made it work.
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Well yes nowadays anyone can build herself up as some kind of celeb, so there's no guarantee that the shtick would work when AV use the celeb status to sell porn.
Especially for us in outside (of Japan) world, say an olympic skier, how many can name 1/10 of all current and recent Japanese olympic skiers? So what if one of them do porn? If I'm not aware of her prior of AV, then she's not a celeb for me. She might be (somewhat? barely? very?) well known to Japanese public, but if she's not known to me then I get no special interest in such celeb-JAV.
So my interest in this genre is when such AV offers something special. So it's broadly 3 (slightly overlap) categories: (1) hot girl, (2) star quality (3) production value and role-play. (1) is obvious, we all like good looking girls in AV, so a celeb is likely to be hot, so the celeb aspect is just assurance or promise that she is hot. But of course it's never a guarantee. Minor J-pop group favors girls for dance skills so both face and figure are variable. Good examples are Shoko Takasaki, a gravue model is of course quality assurance for hot girl. (2) star quality, fashion sense, make-up (yes even make-up is often done by assistant, the same mark-up artist can get better result depending on the girl) mannerism, gesture, facial expression etc. Great example is Yua Mikami, she was never a star in J-pop, but in the low-standard AV world, her star quality is bursting. A counter example is Aimi Yoshikawa, she is very hot, amazing figure and actually quite pretty face too, but she just doesn't know how to smile for the camera and in general manipulate her face. She has great hotness but negative star quality. (3) no matter how legit the original celeb is celeb, often the AV would play up the idol background and dress her up or have her perform a little bit. Sometimes it's a fake press conference with fake reporters asking fake questions. All these role playing leading to the sex scene are quite entertaining. No one does this better than Yua Mikami, even when the vid isn't a J-pop idol role play, she insist on dialing up the drama and acting and costumes and production value. If you look at all her S1 vids, and compare to all S1 vids on average, Yua Mikami vids have at least double the production value (budget). E.g. many more dialog lines, more (bad) acting, more shots (e.g. in corridor, in different rooms) before settling in the room where the sex is to happen.
(4) Do it as a "real" fan-appreciation vid where the fans can cum anywhere in/on the girl then maybe it will pique my interest
Minimal directing is also preferable - a lot of premature ejaculations are to be expected It would be a BIG bonus if that's also her debut video!
That's not quite talking about the same thing. What I mean is that Japan (like any country except USA) has their own set of celebs that's meaningful to their citizens but unknown to rest of world. So one of them doing porn would guarantee some level of domestic excitement and sales. But for us in rest of world, unless we have some reference, e.g. internationally known j-pop group (AKB48) or olympic team, we have no way to distinguish between real or fake celeb. And then no matter real or fake, we also have our criteria if we care Miss X-san being a celeb of Y credential doing an AV for studio/label Z, so do we even care? I think what matter to us in rest of world is different from Japanese domestic fan base. They would care more about what kind of credential Y is. I would care more about what kind of hottie X is (and sometimes but not always, the credential Y, e.g. top gravue idol guarantee X's hotness) and I care about what quality is the AV studio Z.
So sometimes the credential Y could be very weak but the X and Z can be very fappilicious.
So sometimes the credential Y could be very weak but the X and Z can be very fappilicious.