JAV Gossips

[silent1one]

2017-8-9: Yua Mikami 三上悠亜 "One-shot" star?
A gossip mag [most likely a Taiwan publication] reports that Yua Mikami was offered a big sum of money [almost 7000 USD] for a one-night sex service, through a middle-man. Further according to the middle-man, a even higher sum [16500 USD] was offered previously to no prevail. Supposedly the reason for rejection was that (she) was afraid the matter would be exposed to the public.

The magazine article kind of went all over the place in the middle. I carefully and painfully read the article all the way to end only to learn that it's all smoke and mirrors. The closest person "middle-man" managed to reach was only a local translator who previously receive marching order from the agency [probably meaning multiple connected parties of JAV side] that no questions of the AV side will receive any response. So the translator simply block the inquiry without relaying it any closer to Yua or her representative.

Oh my goddess. The reporter [and magazine editor] huffs and puffs to attract eyeballs to the idea that Yua Mikami might whore herself to Taiwan customers. But all there is to the article is that someone had some wet fantasy but fail even to express the offer to anyone remotely connected Yua Mikami. Fake news!!!

Anyway, while I feel it's my civic duty to debunk a fake news report, it's fair enough to consider if Yua Mikami is available to the suitable customer.

To quote directly a bona fide agent/manager from the same agency representing Yua Mikami: "pretty much every AV idols have a monetary price (for sex)"

Furthermore, Yua Mikami's own current manager 青木亮 was accused by an AV idol 香西咲 who formerly was managed by him. 香西咲 accused 青木亮 of forcing her to provide sex service to customers.

So AV idols selling sex is a definite "thing", or at least there's much talking about.
While AV idols are frequently doing gigs in Hong Kong and Taiwan, several "middle-man" are roaming the circles to sell idol sex service. One well circulated offer is "Yui Hatano is selling sex" [the most likely reason she got named is that she's the most popular, in-demand idol in Taiwan for many years]

So once, out of curiosity, I inquire about Yui Hatano's price at a brothel in Japan. [problem is, if the inquiry is only for curiosity, how likely it is the brothel would give a sincere meaningful reply?] The asking price turned out to be 5 million yens [46000 USD] followed quickly by "Japanese law enforcement is very tight lately, so if you are really interested (say you have the money in hand) you might still have to wait a while"

So really... is the 5 million yens price a serious price point? Or is it just outrageous number to get rid of trouble makers? Personally speaking with 5 millions yens in hand, I would spend it on many other things before blowing it for a 2-minutes release with even the lovely Yui Hatano.

So we might extrapolate this case to Yua Mikami. The reality is that prostitution is illegal in Japan [so while it does happen frequently if both the service provider and customers learn to keep a low profile], the authority is actively monitoring and catching some case of sex-for-sale. So any high-profile personality, especially AV idols [the authority have very little love for AV industry lately], would be wise to be very careful about this kind of matters.

As long as Yua Mikami is raking in the big money with legal activities such as shooting AV and doing public gigs in Taiwan and elsewhere, it's in her interest to stay "clean" from prostitution and protect her AV career.

So my personal view is that while Yua Mikami might have a price she would agree to sell her body, but it might be meant to scare away customers rather than expecting to make a deal. Even if some customers were to show up with the money, only other excuses would be used to give him the runaround. The thing is she could make just as much money doing a few more gigs to Taiwan, zero risk and she already shows she's very willing and comfortable about making money that way. So why would she take the legal risk?

But I can also tell my readers that it does happen that AV performers do come to Taiwan to perform paid sex service. Only it's nothing like what the magazines write about and it's a whole different story. [what I take the writer to mean is that it does happen that performers are selling but any "members of the public" is pretty hopeless to make the connection to close the deal, meaning, money alone, no matter how much, will not buy you a night with your fav idol]

We talked about this yesterday, but thanks. How long does it takes you to translate them?

 

[ekop]

At first I though my sister 若月まりあ and I were brought here as second fiddles, but the fans are awesome. I'm so happy. And Taiwanese fans turned out to be so gentlemen, and shy even.

Are you translating this part right?
Are they real sister?
Any more articles saying that Kotone Suzumiya and Maria Wakatsuki are real sister?

 

[jwlim80]

Are you translating this part right?
Are they real sister?
Any more articles saying that Kotone Suzumiya and Maria Wakatsuki are real sister?

https://twitter.com/suzumiya_Kotone/status/886605860805369857

Suzumiya Kotone and Wakatsuki Maria are real(?) siblings. But she add confusion by saying that though they are not related by blood, they are family.

 

[silent1one]

https://twitter.com/suzumiya_Kotone/status/886605860805369857

Suzumiya Kotone and Wakatsuki Maria are real(?) siblings. But she add confusion by saying that though they are not related by blood, they are family.

Maybe they're just bffs and treat each other like real sisters.

 

[ekop]

Thank for the detective work
Maybe they're distance cousin

 

[Supmop]

Let's stick to the original point on accusations of AV talents being forced into selling sexual favors and escort services here.

Read the article again :-

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/0...n-career-despite-blowing-whistle-on-industry/

Investigations are done, people are arrested and court rulings are out which resulted in hefty fines. The verdict is a breach of labor law on the company's side :-

http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/160701/afr1607010019-n1.html

Maybe she was not force to perform in videos under contractual agreements, but certainly is forced to do other things such as selling sexual favors which the contract doesn't cover. If you disagree with me, find me the court rulings that points explicitly otherwise.

forced to do other things such as selling sexual favors which the contract doesn't cover = r***

the first time I know in modern law that r*** is punish by paying hefty fines

where do you live ? oftenly what you posted here are funny, seems you don't understand at all, I don't need to point you its useless, you can't understand ... even the simple law you confused between r*** with labor law how smart is that

punishing people in r*** case by fines means the judge themselves doesn't sure that those suspects are really guilty with the charge, or only proven guilty in contract violation, but not with other

Regarding being "forced". Say, you are given a job which you disliked and turn it downed.

But in return, you are told that if you do not take the job, you will be pass over for the next round of promotion in favor for the person that will take it. So you accept the assignment reluctantly. Is that still being called "forced" since no harm will come to your person when you refused the job ?

wow looks how smart you are

 

[Supmop]

if a westerner wants to havesex with a jav star why don't they just make a movie with them?

2 points that I learned so far :

1. the standar payment for japanese idols are much higher than western pornstar

2. japanese porn industry are very protective with their assets & workers, they will not easily give their girls and also vids to foreign companies

 

[jwlim80]

forced to do other things such as selling sexual favors which the contract doesn't cover = r***

the first time I know in modern law that r*** is punish by paying hefty fines

where do you live ? oftenly what you posted here are funny, seems you don't understand at all, I don't need to point you its useless, you can't understand ... even the simple law you confused between r*** with labor law how smart is that

punishing people in r*** case by fines means the judge themselves doesn't sure that those suspects are really guilty with the charge, or only proven guilty in contract violation, but not with other



wow looks how smart you are

As I said, morally the act can be considered as r***. But they managed to argue it down to a breach of labor law due to various loopholes and such.

Like how prostitution is illegal in Japan, but it's all right if sex occurs, it’s a separate arrangement between the client and the service provider that isn’t being paid for as it can be argue that the client is only paying for massages, oral sex, or just company.

 

[silent1one]

As I said, morally the act can be considered as r***. But they managed to argue it down to a breach of labor law due to various loopholes and such.

Like how prostitution is illegal in Japan, but it's all right if sex occurs, it’s a separate arrangement between the client and the service provider that isn’t being paid for as it can be argue that the client is only paying for massages, oral sex, or just company.

They may act as r*** victim onscreen, but it doesn't mean you can treat them like sex slaves offscreen. If They don't want to escort then you can't force them. There was an American ex-pornstar that got r***ing by a few teens a few years ago, but most women group that are fighting against these cases tries to ignore a case like hers. she wasn't lying, but they're afraid of hurting their image and don't care about a slut.

 

[Supmop]

As I said, morally the act can be considered as r***. But they managed to argue it down to a breach of labor law due to various loopholes and such.

Like how prostitution is illegal in Japan, but it's all right if sex occurs, it’s a separate arrangement between the client and the service provider that isn’t being paid for as it can be argue that the client is only paying for massages, oral sex, or just company.

maybe they have a great lawyer or maybe those accusations are false, and I think its more to 2nd

so far most of the cases that goes to court, the result are only paying fines, means its only minor, not big crime

I've wrote this since the beginning, forced to perform in porn is serious criminal, if proven guilty, people will sent to jail for very long time, no way punish it with paying fines

 

[Supmop]

They may act as r*** victim onscreen, but it doesn't mean you can treat them like sex slaves offscreen. If They don't want to escort then you can't force them. There was an American ex-pornstar that got r***ing by a few teens a few years ago, but most women group that are fighting against these cases tries to ignore a case like hers. she wasn't lying, but they're afraid of hurting their image and don't care about a slut.

who do you mean ? Traci Lords ?

 

[jwlim80]

They may act as r*** victim onscreen, but it doesn't mean you can treat them like sex slaves offscreen. If They don't want to escort then you can't force them. There was an American ex-pornstar that got r***ing by a few teens a few years ago, but most women group that are fighting against these cases tries to ignore a case like hers. she wasn't lying, but they're afraid of hurting their image and don't care about a slut.

maybe they have a great lawyer or maybe those accusations are false, and I think its more to 2nd

so far most of the cases that goes to court, the result are only paying fines, means its only minor, not big crime

I've wrote this since the beginning, forced to perform in porn is serious criminal, if proven guilty, people will sent to jail for very long time, no way punish it with paying fines

The big agency will argue that such act are covered under the contract and it's a personal arrangement and such. Existing in a grey area of the law had made them experts in twisting and interpreting everything to their favors.

They are guilty in a moral sense, but not within the technicality of the law. The management will make great politicians if they choose to run for elections.

 

[silent1one]

who do you mean ? Traci Lords ?

Cytheria! Ive never seen her works, but I heard she's back in porn to feed her family. There are western girls that would film more dogfart and f up facials like belle Knox and mayli for money or the thrill to get back at her family. There are av idols like ai uehara that would do anyone black, little guy, gross creepy fat guy on covers, newhalf, elders, and crazy dp+gb orgy with "fans", but that doesn't mean every av idols enjoy or want to do those. There are a lot of coercing new HS grad and wannabe idols and outside of contract works either to serve wealthy bosses or the directors. It's only acceptable if they voluntarily sign the contract and only do what the contract said and nothing else.

 

[Supmop]

The big agency will argue that such act are covered under the contract and it's a personal arrangement and such. Existing in a grey area of the law had made them experts in twisting and interpreting everything to their favors.

They are guilty in a moral sense, but not within the technicality of the law. The management will make great politicians if they choose to run for elections.

blah blah blah

they can't be proven guilty mean they are innocent to that accussation, thats it.

 

[jwlim80]

blah blah blah

they can't be proven guilty mean they are innocent to that accussation, thats it.

Quoting a famous insider, Shimizu Ken "the reality is that porn is mostly a shitty place filled with shitty people.....It's my belief that you can't be a pretty girl in this industry and also be happy. This business uses pretty girls up until they feel they have no value and they quit."

https://www.gq.com/story/shimiken-japanese-porn-star-interview

 

[Supmop]

Cytheria! Ive never seen her works, but I heard she's back in porn to feed her family. There are western girls that would film more dogfart and f up facials like belle Knox and mayli for money or the thrill to get back at her family. There are av idols like ai uehara that would do anyone black, little guy, gross creepy fat guy on covers, newhalf, elders, and crazy dp+gb orgy with "fans", but that doesn't mean every av idols enjoy or want to do those. There are a lot of coercing new HS grad and wannabe idols and outside of contract works either to serve wealthy bosses or the directors. It's only acceptable if they voluntarily sign the contract and only do what the contract said and nothing else.

never read about Cytheria's case

trading sex for money or job or else are very common, its already happened for thousands of years, and you can't blame them, and not anything must be on contract

it will be weird if we want ONS with some random girl, and need to sign contract first

 

[Supmop]

Quoting a famous insider, Shimizu Ken ""the reality is that porn is mostly a shitty place filled with shitty people"

https://www.gq.com/story/shimiken-japanese-porn-star-interview

yeah yeah whatever

porn is shitty but every years hundred girls are came to fuck with shitty people in shitty place

how ironic is that, especially people who talk a lot about how evil the industry are and still watching it's products

 

[jwlim80]

yeah yeah whatever

porn is shitty but every years hundred girls are came to fuck with shitty people in shitty place

how ironic is that, especially people who talk a lot about how evil the industry are and still watching it's products

That is how reality works. There is no black and white, only grey.

I watch porn, yes, but doesn't mean I will turn a blind eye to how it really is. Think of this as raising awareness. Me trying to improve the working condition of the talents.

 

[silent1one]

yeah yeah whatever

porn is shitty but every years hundred girls are came to fuck with shitty people in shitty place

how ironic is that, especially people who talk a lot about how evil the industry are and still watching it's products

Hypocrites! There are those that really hate the porn industry for taking advantage of young girls even though some aren't really innocent and forced, but just join because of a naive mindset for money and party. That being said, there are some girls that are "coerced" in to it or get blackmail to be someone Play toy. It's different if they're also bitter about the industry themselves especially if they're treated like shit bts. Also, it also sucks for them when someone they know ratted them out because of the rise of social media. A lot of new pornstars in the last decade easily got their real names and private information shared around the web. They get shame a lot by their viewers even though they're just providing entertainment for them and even worst some of their friends and family disown them.

There's a lot of trolls and jerks already and I guess is better to be on the compassionate side because most of these girls are just providing entertainment and may not deserve the hate even though porn will never be a respected job choice.

 

[Inertia]

The people who just like to blindly assume all porn is produced by evil minds and evil studios in concert with evil scouts and evil agencies coercing innocent girls into doing things they don't want to do may subconsciously enjoy maintaining this mindset as it makes them feel less guilty about pirating.
There, I said it. I'll see myself out now. -->