For you , who are the most underrated jav ?

[paparoach408]

So I guess the general consensus here is that JAV actresses with big boobs are underrated, but don't you guys think how weird that is considering that in Japanese art (anime, hentai etc.), women are always drawn with massive boobs?

I mean I don't think they are, they have some girls pretty high up that Sell well but none of them have really done anything to make themselves standout and get into serious consideration for things, Minako Komukai is the only one i thought could've potentially broken into award discussions, but we know her situation

+1 JAV studios appear to be content with maxed out JDM. If one believes Inertia's comments, censorship oversight will be more conservative in near future. How does a studio grow it's market? The international market is wide open. Companies exist to make profits yet studios are focused on squeezing every single yen out of JDM.

The international market is also filled with the USA porn industry, and all of europe it will bring a lot more competition, and cost a lot more to get and hold down a profitable spot within it.

 

[Blade Runner]

I mean I don't think they are, they have some girls pretty high up that Sell well but none of them have really done anything to make themselves standout and get into serious consideration for things, Minako Komukai is the only one i thought could've potentially broken into award discussions, but we know her situation


The international market is also filled with the USA porn industry, and all of europe it will bring a lot more competition, and cost a lot more to get and hold down a profitable spot within it.

JAV has jujuko/cougar/MILF talent who are way above their counterparts in the USA.

 

[paparoach408]

JAV has jujuko/cougar/MILF talent who are way above their counterparts in the USA.

I personally don't agree with that statement but even if that's true, there's a lot of money that would have to be putting in just for the chance of it(Milf/Cougar/Jujuko to be successful.

 

[Inertia]

Blade Runner: a 'conservative' future for JAV is still light years better than what the west is capable of producing. I do think though that the west is winning with technology and accessibility: you've sites like X-Art that produce very beautifully shot (if erotically stale) content along with the many VR sites popping up. 4K is much more common in the west too whereas some big companies here are still only releasing titles with SD quality. For accessibility, all you really need to make porn in the west (and 99% of the time when I say 'west', I mean USA) is a smartphone. No need for mosaic application, no big worries about producing physical movies to have stocked in stores, none of that. You can easily make your own site, get billing, send clips to tube sites, and if you made something desirable, the money will start rolling in. Most AV companies still are a slave to distribution.

One of the biggest issues (I think at least) is when you ask the question: "When I buy <studio name>'s movies, I buy them at ___". Up until now, you could fill that blank with online VOD sites like DMM, physical stores, and other distributors but the best way for a studio to survive now is to sell on their own site (ie, like how a western paysite operates) and then maybe a few months after release, they then start to distribute their new titles across the regular distribution channels. This way they make most sales directly instead of receiving the minuscule cuts doing it the old-fashioned way. A few studios now have their own online stores, but most look like afterthoughts and frequently on the same page they'll have links to DMM, Duga, Amazon, etc. for the same movie (<insert WTF Jackie Chan face).

And wow, sorry for going off tangent!

 

[StageNinja47]

+1 JAV studios appear to be content with maxed out JDM. If one believes Inertia's comments, censorship oversight will be more conservative in near future. How does a studio grow it's market? The international market is wide open. Companies exist to make profits yet studios are focused on squeezing every single yen out of JDM.

I a weird way it good that the JAV studios aren't influences by the outside world, because that means that they free to go about an do their business. Which has given us some pretty awesome so far. I agree if they were just to allow the selling of all JAV as is overseas they would easily expand their market and profits. I just think that a lot of JAV fans would like to buy and get their hands on hard copies of their favorite jav idols dvd and blue rays. especially they limited edition dvds that come with exclusive Polaroids and print pictures.

 

[StageNinja47]

So I guess the general consensus here is that JAV actresses with big boobs are underrated, but don't you guys think how weird that is considering that in Japanese art (anime, hentai etc.), women are always drawn with massive boobs?

well anime are different than live action

and I know some people like big boobs, but overall in east asia the image of pretty girl is still : slim girl with small to medium sized boob

still rare in beauty clinic girl want to upgrade their boob size, most of them want face modification

I think that most people here are referring to the fact that for as popular busty JAV idols are they can be over look for major industry rewards despite their obvious popularity and success. I don't think that every busty JAV idol falls into this category, but so can see it.

As for the big boobs in Anime. While you do see big boobs everywhere. Their is more of a balance of between big boobs and smaller popularity wise. I also thing their some artist and bouncing physicis that creator like to play with, that you just can't get in the real world. Hopefully since anime will have some influence in sexual prefer as they grow up. We get to see it pay dividends down the road in the future and we see a new generation of Japanese men who like and prefer busty JAV idols to smaller boobs idols and busty JAV idols get more recognition in the industry to a similar level that smaller boob idols get now.

 

[Supmop]

JAV has jujuko/cougar/MILF talent who are way above their counterparts in the USA.

I don't know the current MILF in western porn, I'm rare to watch them now, but the latest I saw them yes I agree with you, JAV has much better MILF talents

 

[Blade Runner]

I a weird way it good that the JAV studios aren't influences by the outside world, because that means that they free to go about an do their business. Which has given us some pretty awesome so far. I agree if they were just to allow the selling of all JAV as is overseas they would easily expand their market and profits. I just think that a lot of JAV fans would like to buy and get their hands on hard copies of their favorite jav idols dvd and blue rays. especially they limited edition dvds that come with exclusive Polaroids and print pictures.

I believe in a win-win situation. Perhaps JAV can influence the international market with sales (profits) from its jujuko genre. JAV could use international AV ideas such as increasing budgets and widening talent pool.

 

[Blade Runner]

Blade Runner: a 'conservative' future for JAV is still light years better than what the west is capable of producing. I do think though that the west is winning with technology and accessibility: you've sites like X-Art that produce very beautifully shot (if erotically stale) content along with the many VR sites popping up. 4K is much more common in the west too whereas some big companies here are still only releasing titles with SD quality. For accessibility, all you really need to make porn in the west (and 99% of the time when I say 'west', I mean USA) is a smartphone. No need for mosaic application, no big worries about producing physical movies to have stocked in stores, none of that. You can easily make your own site, get billing, send clips to tube sites, and if you made something desirable, the money will start rolling in. Most AV companies still are a slave to distribution.

One of the biggest issues (I think at least) is when you ask the question: "When I buy <studio name>'s movies, I buy them at ___". Up until now, you could fill that blank with online VOD sites like DMM, physical stores, and other distributors but the best way for a studio to survive now is to sell on their own site (ie, like how a western paysite operates) and then maybe a few months after release, they then start to distribute their new titles across the regular distribution channels. This way they make most sales directly instead of receiving the minuscule cuts doing it the old-fashioned way. A few studios now have their own online stores, but most look like afterthoughts and frequently on the same page they'll have links to DMM, Duga, Amazon, etc. for the same movie (<insert WTF Jackie Chan face).

And wow, sorry for going off tangent!

The conservative future for JAV was triggered by Yui Hatano's AVOP-178 Night Crawling Village.

Short summary is Yui is kidnapped and held hostage in an unknown village. She is repeatedly r***ing yet most of the assaults are simulated sex (no penetration). If a studio thinks it can market a stinker and get paid then expect more studios to do likewise.

USA ISPs are pushing data caps onto subscribers. IMO streaming 4K on smartphone, forget about VR, is a bad idea.

Perhaps it's a cultural bias but JAV business model needs to be re-evaluated.

 

[Supmop]

The conservative future for JAV was triggered by Yui Hatano's AVOP-178 Night Crawling Village.
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Short summary is Yui is kidnapped and held hostage in an unknown village. She is repeatedly r***ing yet most of the assaults are simulated sex (no penetration). If a studio thinks it can market a stinker and get paid then expect more studios to do likewise.

USA ISPs are pushing data caps onto subscribers. IMO streaming 4K on smartphone, forget about VR, is a bad idea.

Perhaps it's a cultural bias but JAV business model needs to be re-evaluated.

they start to sell softcore video as hardcore ?

its horrible, like pushback to 60's american porn era, Uschi Digard simulated sex actions

 

[Blade Runner]

I don't know if movie was originally shot as softcore then added hardcore scenes. IMO it's strictly for collectors.

 

[Supmop]

I don't know if movie was originally shot as softcore then added hardcore scenes. IMO it's strictly for collectors.

ow its limited edition

well its more fair if not released as regular AV, at least real fans won't get dissapointed

 

[gateway57]

they start to sell softcore video as hardcore ?

its horrible, like pushback to 60's american porn era, Uschi Digard simulated sex actions

Actually it's eerily similar to the origins of JAV when almost all A-list actresses were fakers. This is not a positive development unless it's just a one off.

 

[Inertia]

Blade Runner: I know the director of that Yui Hatano title and it's intentionally shot like that. His company doesn't take a fake route due to any laws, rather, their prime target are older men who enjoy the 'old way' of doing adult video.

 

[Blade Runner]

Blade Runner: I know the director of that Yui Hatano title and it's intentionally shot like that. His company doesn't take a fake route due to any laws, rather, their prime target are older men who enjoy the 'old way' of doing adult video.

Older men who will be making the transition. A movie targeted at dying market (literally). IMO it's another reason to dislike censored.

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[BDrake]

I forgot to add Megumi Shino

 

[Supmop]

Actually it's eerily similar to the origins of JAV when almost all A-list actresses were fakers. This is not a positive development unless it's just a one off.

yes like back to the 80's JAV

surely its not a positive development if more JAV makers follow it

 

[Supmop]

Blade Runner: I know the director of that Yui Hatano title and it's intentionally shot like that. His company doesn't take a fake route due to any laws, rather, their prime target are older men who enjoy the 'old way' of doing adult video.

thanks for the info

so this mean high possibilty that more fake videos will be release ?

I know that some peoples are prefer softcore porn than the hardcore

Older men who will be making the transition. A movie targeted at dying market (literally). IMO it's another reason to dislike censored.

Thanks for the explanation.

after read Inertia's post I guess its an experiment trying to test market response, if its good they will make more mixed hardcore softcore videos like this, what do you think ?

 

[Blade Runner]

thanks for the info

so this mean high possibilty that more fake videos will be release ?

I know that some peoples are prefer softcore porn than the hardcore



after read Inertia's post I guess its an experiment trying to test market response, if its good they will make more mixed hardcore softcore videos like this, what do you think ?

IMO it's a mistake that could limit growth and revenue. JAV would be locked into JDM for years. Less consumers and more stagnation as time goes by (Don't play it again, Sam). Insiders will look back and say "woulda, coulda, shoulda" or its Japanese equivalent.

Not a fan of softcore and certainly won't pay for it.

 

[Inertia]

Blade Runner: Japanese has a crapload of 'old men' in the 65 year and older category. You've got at least another generation (20 years) of men enjoying these types of movies so props to a studio for making a throwback type of movie. I don't view it as a reaction to increased conservatism. The Yui Hatano title is just a 'period piece' which is something not done too often.

Due to that recent actress who made the accusations, there is a bit of a push towards playing it safe, but insertion itself isn't going anywhere so please don't worry.