宇都宮しをん Shion Utsunomiya aka RION

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she never really had any interest in the industry just the money, so I see her staying Vanilla and getting paid ...
Also what do you think about Shoko, and Yua? two other girls that came in with big hype and a good following.
an exception like Kirara Asuka who debuted a decade ago and can remain on S1 doing relatively normal shit on a big label
Hmm here we go, wading chest-deep into semantic quagmire...

To me, Kirara Asuka is another perfect example of what I call standard AV career or what you call "mainstream", sure she's not doing enema or bukkake but she's nowhere near vanilla as Rion is now (and always been). Now maybe you would disagree with me... but seems to me Kirara is even more "down to earth" than Julia. Put it this way, if Rion can follow Kirara's career track and stay with S1 for few more years, I would be happy enough.

Problem is that Rion seems to be unable or unwilling to commit to the standard top idol career. It's showing in her work, and I suspect it's starting to affect profits (especially it seems her average production cost is higher than the typical top idols). She's milked (ahem) her amazing asset for 3.5 years and she's now still at the same point other fresh faces+good figures after about 1 year. I'm predict a noticeable change in her career within 6 months. Either mainstream or retire. (but then ... what would she do? She already unretired once, why did she do that? If she can't figure out an exit strategy it may end up badly for her)

As for Yua. I think there's a chance (maybe a small chance) Yua will turn out to be a groundbreaking, genre-bridging superstar. She was not talented and disciplined enough to be successful in AKB48, and in AV at best she would be another Yuma Asami. But perhaps she can bridge the two that happens not even once a decade. Maybe she can make regular appearances in small TV roles and other celeb jobs while keep making "classy"/"vanilla" AV. The AV lends her sensational cred in the non-adult media circle (but can't do any hardcore) and her ongoing non-adult celeb status is needed to keep her AV sales (and her own income) sky high. A wet dream perhaps, but I think she's unique and has what it takes.

A more reliable fallback, my wishful thinking: she becomes Yuma Asami: one vid per month, top idol with strong professional altitude and acting skills. Bad scenario: she can't figure out what to do with her life nor learn to be content with what she has, end up in drugs, prostitution, debt and prison.

Shoko: it's too early to tell, she can follow any of the typical career paths we already discussed. Compared to everyone else, she's still fresh enough (only 9 months) that she can do vanilla for a little while longer.
 
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which examples are there? A top tier vanilla girl going more "hardcore"

agree with ding, Aimi Yoshikawa is one of them that I almost lost hope, super hot face & body but boring performances, never expected she could be better, but luckly she leave STAR and Team Zero, she improving a lot after became freelancer

Honoka Orihara formerly known as Mizuki Akai with E Body, she not very famous and not top tier, but she improve a lot after comeback as freelance and use new stage name

Shiori Kamisaki, like Rion she was having diva syndrome at KMP, and now with Moodyz she not improve a lot, but at least I feel she have better performances

Well this conversation could easily devolve into unpleasant argument over phraselogy.

There are plenty of examples for top tier vanilla girl coming "down to earth" and have a standard AV career which covers both vanilla all-sex vids (e.g. soap) and more elaborate "production" vids, orgy, fan fest, bukkake, IR, bondage, even anal. A perfect, current example is Aimi Yoshikawa, she started out as a busty vanilla girl for TEAM and then STAR. I was a huge fan despite I am usually slow to warm up to any new girl. And then I started to get bored about her, extremely similar to Rion, Aimi has an amazing figure but was doing only boring vanilla vids. And then while I wasn't looking, she started appearing in many different labels and doing many genres. Most especially she made a bunch of bondage and S&M vids. Also she's in a lot of 3P/4P/group sex/harem/orgy vids, sharing the scene with another idol is beneath a top-tier idol. (see, Julia only shared scene twice since 2013)

I think the current persona of Rion is just not going to survive very long in the market. I don't think ANY top tier vanilla girl can have a long career if she remains vanilla. No matter how beautiful her face and/or figure is, the freshness wears off. Girls like Rion take one of two paths, (1) become a regular AV professional, make whatever genre/theme that market wants, or (2) retire. Right now she's still young enough she can marry some rich businessman or geek or yakuza and have no worries for the rest of her life. Every year we see at least 5 idols in this category: very beautiful, very young (recently more common to see slightly older girls) make between 3 to 10 high profile vids for some top labels and quietly disappear, from hot new star to forgotten in less than 2 years. My guess is their income per vid slips downward since the freshness wears off, so they are asked to do more "interesting" vid and they say "Nah, I'm not a career porn star".

Rion already took a third path, only she can do it because she's so amazing (bOObs!!!). She rebooted her career under a new name, but keeping the exact same persona!! If the Chinese article can be believed then the studio is already facing a crisis: this vanilla girl persona isn't making mega hits anymore. Compared to other super high profile idols like Shoko Takahashi and Yua Mikami, there's something missing in Rion, know what I mean?? I hope she can become a standard S-class idol, like Julia or Ayumi Shinoda. But I can also imagine she will retire in 2017.

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totally agree with you
 
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Aimi started out with STAR followed the typical STAR progression(not really vanilla) then joined TEAM and became full Vanilla, and S1S1 before leaving the Vanilla world, I think she could've legit been top tier if it wasn't for her stint at TEAM, then S1S1 so early in her career.

yes

fortunately she made it right by get out from her comfort zone

Rion though, she's a "special attraction" and she keeps making S1S1 a lot of money, if she sticks there she will stay pretty popular, I think with her the specialty goes away if she goes and she just becomes one of the other girls. All indications over the years is that she never really had any interest in the industry just the money, so I see her staying Vanilla and getting paid or retiring, which is a rumor going around that she already might be retiring.

Also what do you think about Shoko, and Yua? two other girls that came in with big hype and a good following.

the question is like ding's wrote for how long before viewers start to get bore

if the girls have fantastic physical appearence like Rion, Maria Ozawa, Julia they can survive longer in vanilla mode, but not very long

yeah that the biggest possibility, seems she prefer to get retire than goes hardcore :(

Shoko Mikami ?
 

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Actually I think both Yua and Shouko are where Rion/Shion was about a year into their careers- massive hype as "premium" av idols. Hard to say if they will remain where they are if they keep doing what they're doing. Though I would also disagree that you either have to become mainstream or retire. That is most often the case, yes, but every so often there's an exception like Kirara Asuka who debuted a decade ago and can remain on S1 doing relatively normal shit on a big label; it's certainly possible if you get big enough. I think both Ri0n and Yua could probably do something like that (not a decade, Kirara is probably unique in that sense), but could conceivably go a couple years with S1 or a different premium label. I think it's far more likely that both eventually retire though; Yua has been getting non-AV offers so I could see her quitting AV if she can sustain herself on those; Rion has never seemed to care about av outside the money and will probably retire sooner rather than later.

yes, there are some other famous girls who jumping ships and keep doing the same till they retired, ex : Tina Yuzuki

it would be another unfortunate case if Rion decide to get retire before she do some real hardcore performances :(
 

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^ I don't agree that Aimi was ever a top vanilla girl SOD had a systetm, but she was not doing all vanilla stuff until she left them, but she was still never a top girl, just A girl.
 

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^ I don't agree that Aimi was ever a top vanilla girl SOD had a systetm, but she was not doing all vanilla stuff until she left them, but she was still never a top girl, just A girl.

so there are no top vanilla girl who turn to "the dark side" ?
 

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Hmm here we go, wading chest-deep into semantic quagmire...

To me, Kirara Asuka is another perfect example of what I call standard AV career or what you call "mainstream", sure she's not doing enema or bukkake but she's nowhere near vanilla as Rion is now (and always been). Now maybe you would disagree with me... but seems to me Kirara is even more "down to earth" than Julia. Put it this way, if Rion can follow Kirara's career track and stay with S1 for few more years, I would be happy enough.

Problem is that Rion seems to be unable or unwilling to commit to the standard top idol career. It's showing in her work, and I suspect it's starting to affect profits (especially it seems her average production cost is higher than the typical top idols). She's milked (ahem) her amazing asset for 3.5 years and she's now still at the same point other fresh faces+good figures after about 1 year. I'm predict a noticeable change in her career within 6 months. Either mainstream or retire. (but then ... what would she do? She already unretired once, why did she do that? If she can't figure out an exit strategy it may end up badly for her)

As for Yua. I think there's a chance (maybe a small chance) Yua will turn out to be a groundbreaking, genre-bridging superstar. She was not talented and disciplined enough to be successful in AKB48, and in AV at best she would be another Yuma Asami. But perhaps she can bridge the two that happens not even once a decade. Maybe she can make regular appearances in small TV roles and other celeb jobs while keep making "classy"/"vanilla" AV. The AV lends her sensational cred in the non-adult media circle (but can't do any hardcore) and her ongoing non-adult celeb status is needed to keep her AV sales (and her own income) sky high. A wet dream perhaps, but I think she's unique and has what it takes.

A more reliable fallback, my wishful thinking: she becomes Yuma Asami: one vid per month, top idol with strong professional altitude and acting skills. Bad scenario: she can't figure out what to do with her life nor learn to be content with what she has, end up in drugs, prostitution, debt and prison.

Shoko: it's too early to tell, she can follow any of the typical career paths we already discussed. Compared to everyone else, she's still fresh enough (only 9 months) that she can do vanilla for a little while longer.
I agree it's mostly a semantic argument but I don't think that Kirara's movies with S1 have been any more "normal" than Rion's. They've both done bondage, some light molestor shit. There's a couple themes Kirara's done that Rion hasn't yet, but those don't seem any more "normal", I'd chalk it up to her being on the label for longer and needing to go to different ideas as a result.
 

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Well problem is, we all agree, Rion is "special". I call her porcelain, or rubber sex doll. Papa calls her vanilla girl. Comparing anyone to her could be problematic.

If you compare Kirara with other top idols, I don't see anything special about her, especially I don't see the studio give her special treatment, major production or extra promotion or fanfare. She's a top girl, so she doesn't do anything too hardcore or nasty or low brow. But there are a few girls with the same status. Julia, Shunka Ayami, and recently retired Ayumi Shinoda, Anri Okita. And my avatar Takao Kitahara, long retired. You know in certain ways Takao and Rion are similar: beautiful glamorous face (slight edge to Takao), gorgeous supple figure (Rion's tits got the edge) and most important both have that divine, not-of-this-earth Goddess air about them. But every vid of Takao was great, from debut to retirement. With Rion, every vid was like "ok good, but maybe nice one will be better(?)"

Sure I might wish they at least dabble in something fringe. Like... Julia as superheroine... (OMG almost had an accident there)

Anyway these girls are all in a top idol category, they are gorgeous enough to say no to many genre, they rarely perform in a scene shared with other girls. Kirara is no different. Well at least I think so, I am not a fan of hers and don't particularly follow her works, you are welcome to prove me wrong.

But Rion isn't even performing as expected in this class. After 3.5 years, every new vid she still perform like it's her second or third time in AV. And studio is still giving her special treatment, SNIS-774 and SNIS-824 probably costed the studio tons of money to produce. Is her sales good enough to justify being a higher-than-top category?
 

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without the numbers we can only speculate, but I don't think S1 would blow money on those productions unless it was worthwhile for them, so they have to be selling well enough to justify the cost, though both of the vids you named are ongoing S1 series; Rion isn't the only one to do either one of those.
 

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Well problem is, we all agree, Rion is "special". I call her porcelain, or rubber sex doll. Papa calls her vanilla girl. Comparing anyone to her could be problematic.

If you compare Kirara with other top idols, I don't see anything special about her, especially I don't see the studio give her special treatment, major production or extra promotion or fanfare. She's a top girl, so she doesn't do anything too hardcore or nasty or low brow. But there are a few girls with the same status. Julia, Shunka Ayami, and recently retired Ayumi Shinoda, Anri Okita. And my avatar Takao Kitahara, long retired. You know in certain ways Takao and Rion are similar: beautiful glamorous face (slight edge to Takao), gorgeous supple figure (Rion's tits got the edge) and most important both have that divine, not-of-this-earth Goddess air about them. But every vid of Takao was great, from debut to retirement. With Rion, every vid was like "ok good, but maybe nice one will be better(?)"

Sure I might wish they at least dabble in something fringe. Like... Julia as superheroine... (OMG almost had an accident there)

Anyway these girls are all in a top idol category, they are gorgeous enough to say no to many genre, they rarely perform in a scene shared with other girls. Kirara is no different. Well at least I think so, I am not a fan of hers and don't particularly follow her works, you are welcome to prove me wrong.

But Rion isn't even performing as expected in this class. After 3.5 years, every new vid she still perform like it's her second or third time in AV. And studio is still giving her special treatment, SNIS-774 and SNIS-824 probably costed the studio tons of money to produce. Is her sales good enough to justify being a higher-than-top category?

agree, those top vanilla girls rarely to shared scene with other girls, especially none lesbian act

Kirara did a what I called semi orgy with some less known actresses at that time, when she still work with prestige

btw from what I've seen S1 did not made extra money extra efforts videos anymore, including Rion's, so the result are regular / ordinary videos from top girls
 

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Honoka Orihara formerly known as Mizuki Akai with E Body, she not very famous and not top tier, but she improve a lot after comeback as freelance and use new stage name

Shiori Kamisaki, like Rion she was having diva syndrome at KMP, and now with Moodyz she not improve a lot, but at least I feel she have better performances
Slight OT... but talking about other idols as possible pattern of where Rion is going...

Mizuki Akai's figure (back in the days) was a match for Rion. Perhaps Rion has a slight edge in some undefinable quality, kind of like a Leiji Matsumoto dreamy woman, Akai is pretty enough, but next to Rion she might look a bit whorish.

What Akai has over Rion is (1) sexual energy, (2) non-sex acting skills, (3) professional altitude. EBOD-280, -313, -363 were some of the best AV ever.

And then ... it's a total mystery to me what happened. Akai disappeared and her reboot Honoka Orihara was nothing like Rion's reboot. Orihara started as an average busty idol, getting the debut on the mid-range label BOBB, made a bunch of solo works that was neither high profile (comparable to EBOD or ABP) nor specialty/kinky/hardcore. Very easy to miss (like I did) unless you were a major Akai fan. And then it went downhill, she start making more and more non-solo vids (each scene performed by a different idol), her name is still on the cover, but seems she couldn't sell a vid all on her own any more. And then her stars fell further still, she's now the (ironic) top star of "amateur" AVs, like HUNTA and Apache, SOD. Of course there are also the uncensored vids under either names.

Actually I am not unhappy with her new vids, she's probably the top hotties making uncensored vids semi-regularly. Any "amateur" vid starring veteran/professionals are the kind of amateur vids I love best. So it's ok for me. But I can't imagine she's making a lot of money... or maybe she is living a good life, I don't know. But certainly she's become almost invisible, often appearing on DVD covers with a white or black bar obscuring her eyes. (but any fan would recognize her distinctive face and boobs)

So that's a path I wasn't paying attention before: high output but invisible as "fake amateur". There are many idols that sort of fit this pattern but Honoka Orihara is particular obvious since she has almost no visibility in the "mainstream" AV anymore.

Why did Akai/Orihara went the way she did? Is it what she wants? Or it's forced on her? Is it due to her (unwise?) making uncensored vid or uncensored vids was just one of the result, not the cause? Is it because she got a little fat? Or skin not as perfect beautiful any more?

I enjoy her current works but I think she deserve greater success and fame, what's missing now is (once in a while) some high production value "planning" vids and I don't understand why she doesn't get a spot in those "top idols orgy" vids.

Anyway, could Rion walk down the same path? Maybe unlikely but who knows? Is she too beautiful to fall this low? Maybe no one is too beautiful for it?
 
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Slight OT... but talking about other idols as possible pattern of where Rion is going...

Mizuki Akai's figure (back in the days) was a match for Rion. Perhaps Rion has a slight edge in some undefinable quality, kind of like a Leiji Matsumoto dreamy woman, Akai is pretty enough, but next to Rion she might look a bit whorish.

What Akai has over Rion is (1) sexual energy, (2) non-sex acting skills, (3) professional altitude. EBOD-280, -313, -363 were some of the best AV ever.

And then ... it's a total mystery to me what happened. Akai disappeared and her reboot Honoka Orihara was nothing like Rion's reboot. Orihara started as an average busty idol, getting the debut on the mid-range label BOBB, made a bunch of solo works that was neither high profile (comparable to EBOD or ABP) nor specialty/kinky/hardcore. Very easy to miss (like I did) unless you were a major Akai fan. And then it went downhill, she start making more and more non-solo vids (each scene performed by a different idol), her name is still on the cover, but seems she couldn't sell a vid all on her own any more. And then her stars fell further still, she's now the (ironic) top star of "amateur" AVs, like HUNTA and Apache, SOD. Of course there are also the uncensored vids under either names.

Actually I am not unhappy with her new vids, she's probably the top hotties making uncensored vids semi-regularly. Any "amateur" vid starring veteran/professionals are the kind of amateur vids I love best. So it's ok for me. But I can't imagine she's making a lot of money... or maybe she is living a good life, I don't know. But certainly she's become almost invisible, often appearing on DVD covers with a white or black bar obscuring her eyes. (but any fan would recognize her distinctive face and boobs)

So that's a path I wasn't paying attention before: high output but invisible as "fake amateur". There are many idols that sort of fit this pattern but Honoka Orihara is particular obvious since she has almost no visibility in the "mainstream" AV anymore.

Why did Akai/Orihara went the way she did? Is it what she wants? Or it's forced on her? Is it due to her (unwise?) making uncensored vid or uncensored vids was just one of the result, not the cause? Is it because she got a little fat? Or skin not as perfect beautiful any more?

we could learn from whats happened to other busty idols

yes, the minus from Honoka Orihara is she performed in low budget mediocre studios :( the plus is she done much much more variations after she left E Body

I think her decission to changed agency are the main reason, other factor is JAV industry tend to be more cruel to busty idols than the slim ones, what do you think ?

I enjoy her current works but I think she deserve greater success and fame, what's missing now is (once in a while) some high production value "planning" vids and I don't understand why she doesn't get a spot in those "top idols orgy" vids.

we have the same questions, yes she need to do high production videos, the obstacle is she with S1 that not making orgy vid anymore, and there is still no studio that manage to borrow her for their special edition vid

I think based on current situation (Rion still S1 contract girl) only 2 and half possibilities that can give us Rion's orgy vid :

1. S1 suddenly made special orgy vid with their best idols, like they did years ago (smaller chance)

2. some studios make special collaboration / join production vid (bigger chance)

2 1/2. S1 make her 2 girls duet (the biggest chance)

Anyway, could Rion walk down the same path? Maybe unlikely but who knows? Is she too beautiful to fall this low? Maybe no one is too beautiful for it?

yes she could if she staying in the industry as freelance, I think thats the key

its sad but from what I learned so far, for busty JAV idols there are no one is too beautiful, I'm affraid if Rika Aiuchi and Yuma Asami still active they might be working for mediocre too

and how they put price on them selves, are they ashame falling from the pecking order ? if not they can follow Rin Aoki, Mizuki Akai

or if they don't have big money offers anymore they quit
 
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I think based on current situation (Rion still S1 contract girl) only 2 and half possibilities that can give us Rion's orgy vid :
For now I can't see it happening, even as a 10th year anniversary special edition AVOP inter-studio cooperation high profile competition.

Problem is you put a sleepy Rion together with other bona fide AV idols, you will show up (1) the other idols aren't ugly or un-busty compared to her, (2) other idols are better and happier at fucking.

Like imagine... put her in a scene with Sora Shiina. OMG... Sora may be 6 cup sizes smaller and not even half as beautiful but Sora would totally take over the scene and Rion will look like the most beautiful inanimate prop ever.

For now my worry isn't that she's only doing vanilla all-sex vids, my worry is that she's not very good at doing those. I'm hoping she first fix the sleepiness then next we might see if she can do some plots (involve some dialogues and acting) or roles (easy ones like teacher, boss lady, wife, student etc) and then we may take the risk of some duet or orgy or harem.

other factor is JAV industry tend to be more cruel to busty idols than the slim ones, what do you think ? ... its sad but from what I learned so far, for busty JAV idols there are no one is too beautiful, I'm affraid if Rika Aiuchi and Yuma Asami still active they might be working for mediocre too
No I don't think JAV discriminate busty idols, quite the opposite actually. But I think JAV/Japan/Asia is less kind to FAT. And it's too easy for a (natural) busty girl to get fat. Like few years ago Akai was definitely busty but now Orihara is pretty chubby, and the difference is only an inch or two. Same for Rion, she could easily gain a couple kg and boom Goddess become fat MILF.

and how they put price on them selves, are they ashame falling from the pecking order ? if not they can follow Rin Aoki, Mizuki Akai or if they don't have big money offers anymore they quit
Yeah on one hand, I'm very happy that Orihara is single-handedly making "amateur" vids worthy, OTOH, I think it's a better world if every girl (at least every girl with Orihara's qualifications) can say "NO! I'm walking unless you pay the big bucks".
 
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For now I can't see it happening, even as a 10th year anniversary special edition AVOP inter-studio cooperation high profile competition.

Problem is you put a sleepy Rion together with other bona fide AV idols, you will show up (1) the other idols aren't ugly or un-busty compared to her, (2) other idols are better and happier at fucking.

Like imagine... put her in a scene with Sora Shiina. OMG... Sora may be 6 cup sizes smaller and not even half as beautiful but Sora would totally take over the scene and Rion will look like the most beautiful inanimate prop ever.

we might have to wait years from now

totally agree, Sora Shiina much less pretty than Rion, but Sora much better performer

imagine how she in the same scene with legendary on screen sluts like Haruki Sato or Noa Torigoe

For now my worry isn't that she's only doing vanilla all-sex vids, my worry is that she's not very good at doing those. I'm hoping she first fix the sleepiness then next we might see if she can do some plots (involve some dialogues and acting) or roles (easy ones like teacher, boss lady, wife, student etc) and then we may take the risk of some duet or orgy or harem.

yeah, even for vanilla she not good enough, like you said sleepiness, she lack of enthusiasm

I have a wish her duet with Naomi might be interesting, or 4 girls orgy they both + Aimi Yoshikawa and Shiroi Kamisaki

No I don't think JAV discriminate busty idols, quite the opposite actually. But I think JAV/Japan/Asia is less kind to FAT. And it's too easy for a (natural) busty girl to get fat. Like few years ago Akai was definitely busty but now Orihara is pretty chubby, and the difference is only an inch or two. Same for Rion, she could easily gain a couple kg and boom Goddess become fat MILF.

good point

busty girls are more prone to be fat

Yeah on one hand, I'm very happy that Orihara is single-handedly making "amateur" vids worthy, OTOH, I think it's a better world if every girl (at least every girl with Orihara's qualifications) can say "NO! I'm walking unless you pay the big bucks".

the problem is she don't have strong selling power anymore I think, like you said she have became chubby, she lost her charm, so there are no big payment offers anymore

and those mediocre and small studios can't afford to pay like big players standart
 
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There are so many actresses in JAV right now, that standing out seems to be becoming harder and harder. Clearly some actresses are managing it, but they tend to be in the minority even considering just how many movies are made. Rion is still able to stand out as her mix of pretty face, great boobs coupled with a slim figure (i agree with your points that busty girls tend to have a little fat), is still working for her.

In the end, only sales matter, though having to do a lot of promotion also seems to be something an actress has to do nowadays. Social media seems to be an important growing market tool as many will use these to promote themselves and their movies.

I don't see Rion being in JAV for long, and don't expect her to branch out as other actresses do. As has already been mentioned, she seems to be simply using JAV to help further her possible mainstream career, as well as picking up money of course. Being an exclusive contract girl clearly gives her a constant cash stream, unlike other actresses who have to take on any job they can. With so much competition for roles, it must put many in a position where they cannot afford to refuse roles. Rion, on the other hand, probably has the luxury to be more selective or perhaps it's in her contract that she won't do certain scenarios. Lets wait and see. She may not seem like she's enjoying herself enough, but hopefully, she will keep at it and give us much more viewing pleasure.

Now if you don't mind i'm going to GTFO and fap! :cerutu:
 

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The average Japanese female wears a Japanese B or C cup, which amounts to a A or B in the states.
In JAV big natural breasts on a nice frame are still not easy to come by.
So the actresses coast, because they know they're in demand.

If we're lucky, she'll either get used to the life style, or become more serious about it as a profession, and will up her game.
(for example: Sayuki Kanno has a nice body, never upped her game. Julia has a nice body, slowly seems to be upping her game and actually taking shit seriously)
If not, she'll probably take her money and jump ship.

Don't worry fellas.
The Economy has stalled in Japan, employment numbers are getting worse, and the wealth gap is ever increasing.
There will be plenty more newcomers to fill the void. :D
 
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The average Japanese female wears a Japanese B or C cup, which amounts to a A or B in the states.
In JAV big natural breasts on a nice frame are still not easy to come by.
So the actresses coast, because they know they're in demand.

If we're lucky, she'll either get used to the life style, or become more serious about it as a profession, and will up her game.
(for example: Sayuki Kanno has a nice body, never upped her game. Juli has a nice body, slowly seems to be upping her game and actually taking shit seriously)
If not, she'll probably take her money and jump ship.

Don't worry fellas.
The Economy has stalled in Japan, employment numbers are getting worse, and the wealth gap is every increasing.
There will be plenty more newcomers to fill the void. :D

Can't disagree with you on the Julia statement. Definitely improving and always a joy to watch. Ayumi Shinoda is another.
 

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The average Japanese female wears a Japanese B or C cup, which amounts to a A or B in the states.
In JAV big natural breasts on a nice frame are still not easy to come by.
So the actresses coast, because they know they're in demand.

If we're lucky, she'll either get used to the life style, or become more serious about it as a profession, and will up her game.
(for example: Sayuki Kanno has a nice body, never upped her game. Juli has a nice body, slowly seems to be upping her game and actually taking shit seriously)
If not, she'll probably take her money and jump ship.

Don't worry fellas.
The Economy has stalled in Japan, employment numbers are getting worse, and the wealth gap is every increasing.
There will be plenty more newcomers to fill the void. :D

very good, I like your comment ;)

good example on Sayuki Kanno and Julia

would be great if Rion follow Julia's path

Can't disagree with you on the Julia statement. Definitely improving and always a joy to watch. Ayumi Shinoda is another.

for JAV idols with super hot body & boobs, Julia is the best right now I think

Naomi's performance equal with Rion

Ayumi Shinoda was good, but unfortunately she already leaved

Megu Fujiura are so good like she was younger, and we still have Wakaba Onoue and Aimi Yoshikawa who are good performers
 
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Just check out her instagram rion301 and found out something like CJ Sexy Card vol 22 with her on the poster and some stuff that i can't translate, but no new on S1, is she retired again?
 

ding73ding

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I've stopped holding my breath for S-class idols, especially Rion who doesn't seem at all committed to her career choice.

Luckily I've discovered the charm of fake amateur vids featuring known or anonymous idols. So I don't lament the non-productivity of Rion or even slightly slower-than-average Yua Mikami.
 
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