Entrance to US experiences

seiya1

Level80Cleaver
Feb 28, 2007
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With the Patriot Act and heightened security (to keep us safe of course) I wanted to ask for everyones experience when entering the US from travel.

Has anyone gotten any sh.t from "Im migrations and Custo ms" when entering the US? If you had electronics were you messed with at all? (I ask this because I saw a list somewhere of amounts of things allowed to bring with you for example cds, dvds, etc.)

I have always been treated well, they sometimes don't even ask for ID. I just take my luggage through their machine and go about my way.

I'd like to hear your experience because in the last few months it has gotten ridiculous from what I read. It does not have to be necessarily from Japan if you would like to share.
 

spikier

JAPAN:みんなのあい
Nov 13, 2008
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With the Patriot Act and heightened security (to keep us safe of course) I wanted to ask for everyones experience when entering the US from travel.

Has anyone gotten any sh.t from "Im migrations and Custo ms" when entering the US? If you had electronics were you messed with at all? (I ask this because I saw a list somewhere of amounts of things allowed to bring with you for example cds, dvds, etc.)

I have always been treated well, they sometimes don't even ask for ID. I just take my luggage through their machine and go about my way.

I'd like to hear your experience because in the last few months it has gotten ridiculous from what I read. It does not have to be necessarily from Japan if you would like to share.

i'm just going to assume that you have some u-15 dvds. correct? (lol).

that you are trying to sneak into the U.S? (or maybe not?).

well, anyways, i have never left the country before :pandalaugh:.
 

seiya1

Level80Cleaver
Feb 28, 2007
201
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I have a couple u-15 dvds that I want to take on my trip with me and back, but I also carry my computer and stuff that goes with it. I don't want to get messed with for carrying electronics. (also my nintendo wii).

I'd also like to ask about magazines and experience with that.
 

Rollyco

Team Tomoe
Oct 4, 2007
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I don't recommend carrying hard-copy U-15 materials through any customs checkpoint, ever. Even though you may be certain of it's legality, a law enforcement officer might make the opposite judgement and put you in a world of hurt. It's just not worth it.

All digital data should be encrypted, of course. They are allowed to copy your hard drive contents, but don't relinquish your secret key as you are not under any legal obligation to do so.
 

Gir633

Señor Member
Oct 28, 2008
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I've never had any problems. I've brought back some porn (both paper and video, but no young stuff) in my suitcase, and they never said or checked it. I've not taken any electronics there or back other than music players. But I haven't been able to go across the pond in a couple of years though.

The only thing I did run across was in probably the late 90's, coming in through Seattle I was asked by customs agents 3 times on my way through the airport if I had bought a Mini-disk player while in Japan. Which I hadn't, so I assumed that they must have been a popular item to bring back at that time.
 

guy

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Feb 11, 2007
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When returning to the States, you have to clear immigration (passport control) first. You are required to present your customs declaration card at that time, for verification. What you may not be aware of is that the immigration officer will often make a mark on the customs declaration card to indicate whether the customs officer should check your bags, or should let you pass without being checked.

While the immigration officer checks your passport, he/she will usually ask some questions about where you've traveled, purpose, how long you've been away, why, etc. Your answers and how you say them will often decide which mark you get on your customs card.

After years of going through this in international travel, I have come to never be checked at US customs*. Your answers should be matter-of-fact, but casual. Feel free to tell the officer how you enjoyed travelling, but a line about how nice it is to be back home says to the officer that you're a true American. It's not foolproof, but obviously any hesitation or seemingly dodgy answers and you'll probably be asked to do a customs check.

* (The only time I was "checked" recently was when a customs officer was racially profiling passengers by making all, and only, the minority non-caucasians pass through customs check. But his superior quickly noticed this and he was dismissed from his post, and the subsequent officer allowed me to pass unchecked.)

To borrow a line:
Rusty said:
You look down, they know you're lying and up, they know you don't know the truth. Don't use seven words when four will do. Don't shift your weight, look always at your mark but don't stare, be specific but not memorable, be funny but don't make him laugh. He's got to like you then forget you the moment you've left his side.

If you must carry hardcopy goods, you can always use a little creativity. Customs officers are trained to look for very specific prohibited-but-commonly-carried items, like fruits, grains, drugs, suspicious/uncommon electronics, and so on. If you buy DVDs, get rid of the DVD case and put the disc in a regular CD (you can buy an audio CD, and some of those flip-out dual-disc cases). Hide the DVD covers in between pages of a nondescript magazine. Pack your bags in such a way that photobooks and magazines can quickly be identified as the print material they are, and that other items in your bag can be searched without having to remove the books. To the customs officer, you're just like anyone else bringing home some books and CDs.

Keep in mind, airport security is still allowed to open your bag and check its contents for hazardous/prohibited materials before you get on the plane. But you will usually just find a TSA "Your bag was searched and we found nothing" note inside your bag.





In the end, however, I agree with RollyCo, if the risk is too great then you really should just take precautions ahead of time. Encryption is free, disk storage is cheap, there's no reason not to be taking advantage of the technology.
 

Gir633

Señor Member
Oct 28, 2008
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The only time my luggage was searched was my first time going to Japan, by Japan customs agents. One trip out did take a little longer, they didn't open my bags, but they spent awhile swabbing and sniffing the outside, the zipper pulls in particular. But later I thought that out and realized this was when I was working at a gun store, and had been cleaning guns all day. Then when I got home I was handling some of my own and putting away reloading supplies, then I packed up for the trip. So I'm pretty sure there was traces of gunpowder residue on my luggage. Luckily this was before 2001.
 

sapientiam

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Jan 1, 2010
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as foreginers my experience with US cus t0m is i am herded to a special room where they ask sh*t load of things about me, and had my friend searched all the way to his phone's battery disassembled.. and i noticed the whole room is jammed because i immediately lost signal once inside and they dont want me to touch phones while inside

but regarding the copying of anything in your hard drive, apart from encrypting your data, are they actually able to copy then recover files that are not properly deleted using file shredders? (a.k.a recoverable)
 

shinta

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Dec 15, 2006
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i snuck a few japanese dvds in my luggage one time on my way back into the US a couple years ago. i put the dvd covers inside books, and the actual dvds in a paper bag between a pile of clothes. i put it in my normal luggage, not my carry on stuff. i didn't get checked when i went through customs, though i don't know if they opened up my luggage or not when it got off the plane. it didn't *look* like they went through my stuff.

it probably also depends on your nationality and ethnicity. i'm a us citizen, half chinese/japanese.
 

Rhinosaur

Outside Context Problem
Sep 23, 2007
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Cool. I find the experiences of people like yourself very interesting.
Do you still have an affinity for or, for want of a better phrase, a "spiritual connection" to your place of birth?
 

Rollyco

Team Tomoe
Oct 4, 2007
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Every U.S. citizen needs to watch the first half of this video:

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