Western Porn Bringing JAV to Mind, and How Well They Succeed

silent1one said:

Like Japan, America likes to cast amateur in mock reality porn a lot. There's one Youtuber who people suspected to be gay film some gay porn as a bg extra and one scene in bangbus where he can't get a erection a few years ago.

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today japanese porn are more similiar with american

zukkon bakkon made some vids that I think looks similiar with dorm invasion
and american has started loli and shota too

used to be fuck team five fans, I remember in one episode they fuck asian guy with very short pee pee, and the girls are getting trouble to fuck him, his pee pee oftenly fallout from their vagina, because its too short

but I still don't know japanese porn vids that exclusive for paysites only

Supmop said:

today japanese porn are more similiar with american

zukkon bakkon made some vids that I think looks similiar with dorm invasion
and american has started loli and shota too

used to be fuck team five fans, I remember in one episode they fuck asian guy with very short pee pee, and the girls are getting trouble to fuck him, his pee pee oftenly fallout from their vagina, because its too short

but I still don't know japanese porn vids that exclusive for paysites only

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Odd fetishes exist in Western porn a long time ago except there's no plot because the actings are usually horribly cringy. Besides the typical bdsms, There are dwarfs working in the adult industry like the scene Katsuni did in France early in her career that reminds me of that Nishi-kun director. Also, there's that creepy fat guy with small penis called the Minion. There's also Ed Powers that took a lot of fresh 18 years old adult Stars first onscreen sex in his debutantes series including Alexis Love, Katie Morgan, Daisy Marie, Tia Tanaka, Lexi Belle and more with his small penis. Howard stern even did a whole contest inviting guys with micropenises to come to his show and strip. Japan isn't the only country that's super weird. Speaking of Loli, I think you meant girls like Veronica Rodriguez and Piper Perri that take on a footlong from all those gifs advertisement I see on streaming websites. It's even more disturbing that Piper lost her baby son because of an abusive ex and he forgive that guy too and continue working on porn. She looks like she's probably taking a drugs too from the look of her face probably to ease her stress.

silent1one said:

Odd fetishes exist in Western porn a long time ago except there's no plot because the actings are usually horribly cringy. Besides the typical bdsms, There are dwarfs working in the adult industry like the scene Katsuni did in France early in her career that reminds me of that Nishi-kun director. Also, there's that creepy fat guy with small penis called the Minion. There's also Ed Powers that took a lot of fresh 18 years old adult Stars first onscreen sex in his debutantes series including Alexis Love, Katie Morgan, Daisy Marie, Tia Tanaka, Lexi Belle and more with his small penis. Howard stern even did a whole contest inviting guys with micropenises to come to his show and strip. Japan isn't the only country that's super weird. Speaking of Loli, I think you meant girls like Veronica Rodriguez and Piper Perri that take on a footlong from all those gifs advertisement I see on streaming websites. It's even more disturbing that Piper lost her baby son because of an abusive ex and he forgive that guy too and continue working on porn. She looks like she's probably taking a drugs too from the look of her face probably to ease her stress.

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if you watch western 70s porn their acting and stories are great, in the 70s many of them who did not lucky in mainstream movie industry are turn into porn, so their acting quality are far above porn standart, the era when bush and regular size penises still dominant

yes few unattractive guys in western porn are very lucky

about abuse and drug use, I think its more common in western porn than japanese, from a journalist report who claimed he had visited porn sets in north america, europe and japan he claimed that japan is the most clean from drugs and the performers are came into the set on time and healthy

One thing about JAV is that actresses are supposed to fall into the waifu category, and so have to appear to be ladylike and passive. Yes there are many movies where woman are more dominant but they often remain well mannered, except of GAL movies where the opposite seems to be the ideal.

In western porn, the more aggressive approach seems to be the ideal, or at least it seems that way to me, and the more passive actresses seem to be rarer.

It all comes down to wants and needs of the market obviously. I think most men in Japan are not in sexual relationships and therefore they dream of the girl next door/girlfriend type actress. In the west more guys are already in relationships, therefore they go for the more extreme big boobed plastic fantastic actress. This is a complete generalisation of course but i do believe there is a direct relationship between the lack of action happening over in Japan and the types of actresses that are desired.

Motiman said:

One thing about JAV is that actresses are supposed to fall into the waifu category, and so have to appear to be ladylike and passive. Yes there are many movies where woman are more dominant but they often remain well mannered, except of GAL movies where the opposite seems to be the ideal.

In western porn, the more aggressive approach seems to be the ideal, or at least it seems that way to me, and the more passive actresses seem to be rarer.

It all comes down to wants and needs of the market obviously. I think most men in Japan are not in sexual relationships and therefore they dream of the girl next door/girlfriend type actress. In the west more guys are already in relationships, therefore they go for the more extreme big boobed plastic fantastic actress. This is a complete generalisation of course but i do believe there is a direct relationship between the lack of action happening over in Japan and the types of actresses that are desired.

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There are some niche like Yui Hatano. She did filmed some scenes where she's a mean tomboy with minimum makeup that curse and don't shave her armpits. Sometimes, in the bts or aftermath of the sex scene you might get to see your idol teasing the guy or revert to her regular self talking, but it's still quite tame compared to America. Japan emphasize on the acting feminine on and offscreen + plot especially in those force sex movies. To satisfy fans of both sides of world, we've seen a lot of Caucasian and Latinas film av for Japanese studios either in L.A or they travel to Japan like Mia and Abigaile. Dandy also sent their av idols to film to bbc in L.A and Africa.(the African natives is staged though)

Marcia Hase did a few interviews where she said in Japan av idols are treated like princesses at least the popular best sellers working in mainstream studios, but in America you need to bring your own clothes and do your own makeups.(American studios like Digital Playground does have their own wardrobe and makeup artist, but I guess she was a newcomer back a few years ago) She also mention American fans don't care if you're dating, smoking, cursing, or doing extreme rough sex. In Japan and probably most Asian counties, most of the fans there fantasize each av idol as a perfect feminine girlfriend just for himself and she played along with it on social media websites and events.

silent1one said:

There are some niche like Yui Hatano. She did filmed some scenes where she's a mean tomboy with minimum makeup that curse and don't shave her armpits. Sometimes, in the bts or aftermath of the sex scene you might get to see your idol teasing the guy or revert to her regular self talking, but it's still quite tame compared to America. Japan emphasize on the acting feminine on and offscreen + plot especially in those force sex movies. To satisfy fans of both sides of world, we've seen a lot of Caucasian and Latinas film av for Japanese studios either in L.A or they travel to Japan like Mia and Abigaile. Dandy also sent their av idols to film to bbc in L.A and Africa.(the African natives is staged though)

Marcia Hase did a few interviews where she said in Japan av idols are treated like princesses at least the popular best sellers working in mainstream studios, but in America you need to bring your own clothes and do your own makeups.(American studios like Digital Playground does have their own wardrobe and makeup artist, but I guess she was a newcomer back a few years ago) She also mention American fans don't care if you're dating, smoking, cursing, or doing extreme rough sex. In Japan and probably most Asian counties, most of the fans there fantasize each av idol as a perfect feminine girlfriend just for himself and she played along with it on social media websites and events.

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Yeah, pretty much what i was saying. The idol culture means actresses have to be a lot more reserved. Tattoo's are still rare (thankfully) as are fake boobs and botoxed faces.

Motiman said:

One thing about JAV is that actresses are supposed to fall into the waifu category, and so have to appear to be ladylike and passive. Yes there are many movies where woman are more dominant but they often remain well mannered, except of GAL movies where the opposite seems to be the ideal.

In western porn, the more aggressive approach seems to be the ideal, or at least it seems that way to me, and the more passive actresses seem to be rarer.

It all comes down to wants and needs of the market obviously. I think most men in Japan are not in sexual relationships and therefore they dream of the girl next door/girlfriend type actress. In the west more guys are already in relationships, therefore they go for the more extreme big boobed plastic fantastic actress. This is a complete generalisation of course but i do believe there is a direct relationship between the lack of action happening over in Japan and the types of actresses that are desired.

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agree with you, japanese market demand unexperience, looks innocent fresh girls, even for the veteran or mature they prefer the passive type

while for westerner, size are more important for them, doesn't matter the boobs are ugly fake, bigger are better

and anal is a must in modern western porn

maload said:

most of jav actress can cum WHENEVER the producer tell them too.
semen , water are not magic . its can build in 6 mininte

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you mentioned it

squirt are more common in JAV

while anal sex and DP are more common in western porn

silent1one said:

There are some niche like Yui Hatano. She did filmed some scenes where she's a mean tomboy with minimum makeup that curse and don't shave her armpits. Sometimes, in the bts or aftermath of the sex scene you might get to see your idol teasing the guy or revert to her regular self talking, but it's still quite tame compared to America. Japan emphasize on the acting feminine on and offscreen + plot especially in those force sex movies. To satisfy fans of both sides of world, we've seen a lot of Caucasian and Latinas film av for Japanese studios either in L.A or they travel to Japan like Mia and Abigaile. Dandy also sent their av idols to film to bbc in L.A and Africa.(the African natives is staged though)

Marcia Hase did a few interviews where she said in Japan av idols are treated like princesses at least the popular best sellers working in mainstream studios, but in America you need to bring your own clothes and do your own makeups.(American studios like Digital Playground does have their own wardrobe and makeup artist, but I guess she was a newcomer back a few years ago) She also mention American fans don't care if you're dating, smoking, cursing, or doing extreme rough sex. In Japan and probably most Asian counties, most of the fans there fantasize each av idol as a perfect feminine girlfriend just for himself and she played along with it on social media websites and events.

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I think becaused Marica Hase considered as new comer in USA, they doesn't care her popularity in Japan, so they did not treat her as star

and about fans, asian fans are more extreme, looks those weird contract that forbid idols to openly dating or have relationship

Supmop said:

asian fans are more extreme, looks those weird contract that forbid idols to openly dating or have relationship

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Again, that is completely about the whole idol infatuation thing they have going on over there. These girls get worshipped by legions of hardcore fans who go out and buy all their movies, cds, magazines and all the rest. They don't want to hear that she's 'taken'.

It's more a problem in pop groups of course, as of course JAV actresses are fucking guys for cash, so clearly not having a boyfriend isn't as big an issue. Personally, the only reason i don't want to hear a girl has a boyfriend is simply because there's more chance of them retiring. I don't want a pissed off boyfriend giving her shit about fucking other guys, and so she ends up stopping her career for him.

Motiman said:

Again, that is completely about the whole idol infatuation thing they have going on over there. These girls get worshipped by legions of hardcore fans who go out and buy all their movies, cds, magazines and all the rest. They don't want to hear that she's 'taken'.

It's more a problem in pop groups of course, as of course JAV actresses are fucking guys for cash, so clearly not having a boyfriend isn't as big an issue. Personally, the only reason i don't want to hear a girl has a boyfriend is simply because there's more chance of them retiring. I don't want a pissed off boyfriend giving her shit about fucking other guys, and so she ends up stopping her career for him.

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Die hard fans exist everywhere like those crazy Twilight and Justin Beiber fans. I'm sure there are similar otaku that fantasize too much about a pornstar in America too. The worst are creepy lonely stalkers that might attack an idol someday. The av fan base is actually quite diverse too. Sometime you see very fresh college looking sex craving Virgin teens and married middle age salarymen to well dress good looking individuals and creepy elders that sick of their spouse and want a quickie good time by attending events judging by some of the photos and videos I've seen.

The agencies are pretty strict in how they market their idols in events and social media, which may attribute to some decent actings in av and low budget v-cinemas that we rarely see in western porn. I'm sure some of them escort especially they travel a lot to countries like Taiwan and China to film sketchy commercials and attend company parties. It actually takes a lot of courage to do porn these days especially how mainstream it has become in Japan and the west. Vanilla sex get faze out fast after your debut too nowadays and there are some very degrading scenes like Facial Abuse. You also get a lot of hate or creepy messages as well as people on the Internet tracking down your private life and history forever. Getting a decent boyfriend is hard for them especially if they're looking for someone serious that can accept them. However, Maria Ozawa manage to get a decent looking guy with a nice job. I don't know if it's just a fling or open relationship since she's a very ambitious person that also loves to party.

Motiman said:

Again, that is completely about the whole idol infatuation thing they have going on over there. These girls get worshipped by legions of hardcore fans who go out and buy all their movies, cds, magazines and all the rest. They don't want to hear that she's 'taken'.

It's more a problem in pop groups of course, as of course JAV actresses are fucking guys for cash, so clearly not having a boyfriend isn't as big an issue. Personally, the only reason i don't want to hear a girl has a boyfriend is simply because there's more chance of them retiring. I don't want a pissed off boyfriend giving her shit about fucking other guys, and so she ends up stopping her career for him.

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