Immersive 3D Content and Enthusiasts (oh boy...)

lolmao500 (sorry, quoting works weird for me): JAV VR content on SLR is both new and old releases. Newer studio additions have sent us hundreds of titles with new batches each month that we're working on getting online. Give it a bit longer and we will be concurrent with DMM for new VR releases (especially with SLR JP opening up *very* soon).

KMP, for example, sent us like a hundred titles that consist of both new and old releases. The first batch is of various genres so we can test them out and see what in particular sells the best and go from there.
 
Ah cool. I was just saying that cause recently i went back to the old jav vr i had... and a lot of them are really bad. Low framerate, bad resolution, bad scaling, bad camera... eyes not properly aligned so it hurts your brain... and a bunch of them are very good aside from the video quality compared to todays 4k. So even like 3 years ago they did good stuff but somehow changed the way they did it for some months... they tried stuff... but came back to the good stuff.

Some earlier titles were really hot i wished they were remastered in 4k/60fps or something.

And a dream come true would be for jap studios to provide uncensored versions of their stuff to SLR Murica while keep selling the censored version in Japan... censored vr is enraging for pussy/ass lovers such as myself... what a waste.
 
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Inertia said:
Popodog, VR porn fans overall are more computer savvy and sure, many in the west hate the pixels (can't be avoided), but SLR gets a lot of complaints about the technical quality of JAV movies compared to the west.
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Sure, they are. Just as most early adopters of new technology are. It used to be quite a challenge just to get on the internet, then services like Compuserve and AOL showed-up. You guys could be the AOL of VR..... uh, ok, maybe the pornhub of VR ;)

I can understand why people are complaining. The JAV titles on SLR are seriously lacking in quality. They don't at all reflect what I see playing the highest quality versions from the Japanese studios. The majority of the titles I have are 4096x2048 60 fps. What I'm noticing is that in a lot of these videos, the image quality improves greatly when the girls get close, like really close. In these scenes, the background appears somewhat pixelated. For instance, I wouldn't be able to read the clock on the wall. Now, when I compare this to most Western videos, the opposite holds true. I can practically read the print on a package of Doritos at the far end of a room. I'm not sure entirely what this means. But, western producers clearly have a difference in how they believe these should be filmed. Different camera setups? Simply a difference in aperture settings?

Anyway, I think it's a mistake to try to influence the Japanese studios to alter their current content. And, I believe western producers are going down the wrong path. In the beginning, they seemed to be willing to experiment quite a bit. Now, they all seem to have settled on a format they think works well, and it's rather boring. When r/oculusnsfw was more of a discussion group rather than a place for content makers to advertise new releases, I saw producers actively ignoring the many requests from consumers to make available more close-up scenes. They would say things like "hey, that part where the girl came up really close, and looked into my eyes for 10 seconds, then gave me a kiss, was really great. Make more please!". They would say "stop having the girl lean back so far". All these comments were heard with deaf ears. Now, the Japanese seem to get it. And, you're trying to get them to eliminate the super close cowgirl position I find to be the very best out of most of the titles.
 
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LimeLemon said:
Thank you for this write up. I know you stated you don't store any videos in your device, but is there anything wrong with that? I hear user not doing it. Wouldn't it be the simple route? Drag and drop the file into your VR headset when connected to the computer via USB then just play the video on whatever video players you have downloaded on it?

Unless you can set up a password secure server/folder that is accessible over wifi, I can't do that since I share the wifi.

SLR is basically like a subscription porn site, right? Akin to something like Brazzers or BangBros, etc... just with VR porn? Unless I really like the content I don't think I'd subscribe.
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There's certainly nothing wrong with putting the files on your device. However, If you choose the highest quality video, the file size is rather large. It takes some time to do the transfer, and the device doesn't have much storage. So, it will fill up rather quickly with just a few titles. I find it easier to put them on my NAS, which has 14 TB of storage ;)

Certainly, you can password protect the content on your computer. Nobody would be able to view them over the WiFi without credentials. Unless of course, you saved the PW in your Oculus, and someone else uses it ;)

SLR isn't like Brazzers in that they make content available from a wide range of different producers. I'd say it's more like a paid version of Pornhub. I recommend installing their app, and viewing preview videos to see if you like it. Inertia can pipe-in if he wants to better explain their business model if he wants.
 
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lolmao500: Let's not use a racial slur when describing JAV studios. Uncensored version of censored JAV contents will sadly never happen.

Popdog: for most of the studios now, we are sent their highest resolution in uncompressed formats. Some of them are even sending us movies that are higher resolution/bitrate than what they send DMM.
 
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Inertia said:
lolmao500: Let's not use a racial slur when describing JAV studios. Uncensored version of censored JAV contents will sadly never happen.

Popdog: for most of the studios now, we are sent their highest resolution in uncompressed formats. Some of them are even sending us movies that are higher resolution/bitrate than what they send DMM.
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I look forward to seeing these :)

One question about your subscription payment system. There's an option for American Express, however it seems to redirect to PayPal with no support for that account type. Will this be fixed at some point?

BTW, the content you guys are now producing on your own is highly interesting. Technically, it's not quite there yet.... but, has a more amateur sort of feel, with very attractive girls who actually appear to be into it. :)
 
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lolmao500: Uncensored version of censored JAV contents will sadly never happen.
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Until a studio decides to put their resources into producing strictly uncensored content for the export market. Speaking of such a studio, have you been in contact with whoever is responsible for JVRPorn? Now, there's a content provider that could REALLY use some help. If you could assist them, especially with regard to scaling issues, you guys could gain a lot of JAV fans on SLR.
 
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Actually, most of the largest content providers in the west use DRM. Think Netflix, iTunes, Amazon, Disney, etc. Luckily for us, it's not common in porn ;)
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I should have been more specific. Although, we were discussing porn, so, didn't...feel the....uh...

Haha! Thanks @Popodog !
 
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Popodog: AMEX is with Epoch. They are a legit billing company that achieved the otherwise impossible by getting deals to process digital adult with PayPal and AMEX. AMEX should be on the Epoch join page, not PayPal, but it may be possible to use AMEX at PayPal if you have the card registered. If it's just forwarding you to PayPal and you can't use AMEX, it could be a regional issue based on your location.

I only manage JAV content for censored studios so I don't know much about JVRPorn, sorry.
 
Inertia said:
For the cowgirl comment, the problem arises that in some content it's filmed so closely that the girl appears larger than life. Realism is one thing, having sex with a giantess though isn't every man's fantasy.
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This comment is concerning, especially coming from the "JAV VR Content Manager". Scale and camera proximity are two completely different things. If a girl appears to be a giant, the problem is with the camera rig/IPD.

And I would agree with your assertion that it's great to (sometimes) pull the camera back a bit, so we can see the penetration, IF we could actually SEE the penetration (and not a pixelated blur). "Squatting hoverface" (where the girl is leaning forward/down into the camera, cowgirl style, face and penetration centered in the frame) is one of my personal favorite positions, but it only really shines when uncensored.

I think your heart is in the right place (we all want a healthy mix of well framed positions), but right now (due in part to the censorship) the 'super close/intimate/penetration not even visible' nature is the STRENGTH of JAV, and we need to encourage it.

Ultimately, there is no reason a good VR scene can't include a variety of positions, but the focus should definitely leverage VR's strengths (closeups/intimacy).
 
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I'm not referring to portions of the scene where the girl should be close (kissing, hover face), but the entire production from start to finish.
 
Inertia said:
I'm not referring to portions of the scene where the girl should be close (kissing, hover face), but the entire production from start to finish.
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Hmmm...I'm not sure that's any less concerning. If you don't mind, could you point to a western studio you think is doing this effectively? Or, even particular titles? I can only think of a couple recent titles from these studios I thought were any good at all. One was "The Waking Up", by VRP. Mainly due to the actress seeming like she actually might have enjoyed it. And, also, the close-ups were fantastic.

One area where Japanese companies have always excelled, is listening to, and understanding their customers desires. I would imagine, they might receive some push-back if they make the types of changes you're proposing to them. Are they asking for help in order to increase revenue on SLR specifically? Or, does this also pertain to content mainly produced for their home market?
 
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I'm not referring to portions of the scene where the girl should be close (kissing, hover face), but the entire production from start to finish.
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Hey Inertia, I'm sorry for sounding so critical. I know opinions about porn and erotica are highly subjective. I think 95% of commercial western porn is absolute garbage. What I see is many (certainly not all) of the JAV VR producers making content that more closely reflects my own experience with regard to intimacy. The very close-up scenes are one of the main reasons for this. I haven't seen any western producers consistently doing this as effectively as some of the Japanese studios. I know I'm not the only one with this opinion.
 
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Popodog said:
I think 95% of commercial western porn is absolute garbage. What I see is many (certainly not all) of the JAV VR producers making content that more closely reflects my own experience with regard to intimacy. The very close-up scenes are one of the main reasons for this
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I agree with you.
The problem with western VR is that the girls just fuck. There are very little interaction. They almost don't talk to the camera, they don't aproach to the camera, they are just posing, acting like in a standard porn film one or two meters away from the camera. It is very rare to see close-ups, to see some good kissings on a western VR, some petting, the girls talking to your ear... But the most important thing for me is that they don't use my favorite JAV VR position: the girl sitting on you, face to face, only a few centimeters from you. Both sitting, not laying. This is awesome on VR and It is very, very rare on Western VR.

And I have to discard 70% of Western films because the disgusting fake tits, ugly tattoos and stupid piercings. But this is another question.

On same labels (GOPJ) the girls are like giants if they are too close (whole film, in fact) but they look correct size on other labels. As Akibaum says it's a camera rig / IPD problem, not that the camera is too close.

I have Samsung Odyssey Plus where I can adjust IPD via hardware so it can match my IPD, and I only see giant girls with some labels (GOPJ, 3DSVR and most western labels), but others (Afesta Takumi) they look perfect size even a few centimeters from my face. It's a problem with the cameras they use and their configuration, or that most smartphone VR glasses (even Rift S) have fixed IPD and it is different than your IPD, not with the distance of the camera...
 
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Mind you, my comments are just on a technical level. I totally agree that Japan triumphs over the west when it comes to creative thinking and realistic acting.
 
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