JAV Gossips

[ding73ding]

"even an A coffee girl is true identity is South Korea"
甚至有一名A咖女优真实身分就是韩国人
any idea what this means?

The writing style is rather informal, slangish. So if you were using Google or machine translation you get a total fail.

"咖" doesn't refer to coffee, my guess is it's slangish for the English or Japlish word "class" so "An A-class idol's real identity is Korean".

I already translated the whole article. I never pretend to fully and accurately translate every word and every sentence. But I make an effort. I often subtract a little bit (what I judge to be meaningless banter, and/or I just feel too lazy), usually I use my judgement or interpretation. That is one such case. I was not sure if could translate that line 100% accurately, anyway, without any specifics (esp. there's not any definition who are "A-Class") it's pretty much empty talk, so I omitted that line CONSCIOUSLY.

I'm doing it (the translation) for nothing. So I make no promise to respond to any more question or request regarding a translation decision I already made.

 

[Supmop]

Rather opposite, actually it's one of the weakest ones, lacking any specific names or info that could be verified or refuted.

Reading that site for couple months now, I'd say it's never had a big miss. His record has been pretty good. (just for convenience, I pretend it's all one guy) A lot of his facts were backed up by reputable news source, and he also helpfully mention if the source is of the less solid tabloid types. Then there's industry insider gossip, he's clear about those. And he does give some of his judgement which are more bullshit which are more believeable.

He also offer some of his own speculation but he's always clear those are speculations. And I have found that his speculations are never complete baseless wild guesses. He has many years of industry experience and often base his speculation on confirmed facts.

One thing is a lot of his source are the official channels of all the main studios (PR) and all famous idols (Twitter etc). He follows all of them and suss out interesting stories from them. That's something that I haven't seen in any English site.

yes it can't be verified, agree with that

but from thousands females working in AV I guess (pretty sure) not all of them are japanese, at least few are from china, taiwan or korea, doing AV secretly

by the way got any gossips related to low birth rate in japan ?

 

[Supmop]

No one stand to her side in this case, I really fond of her. It must be very hard. She had some unpleasant experiences in Ebisu Muscat. When Anri Okita was still a member of the group, they had a battle game and Anri Okita mock her in English : "She is very stupid", and Tia didn't reply her at all.

I know it's just a game, but the situation was really awkward and unpleasant. And now, she has another case with the group.

thats why I wrote it would be really bad if its true

first I like her, second its very horrible to leave caused by unpleasant sh*t like this

its give another reason for porn haters to claim that girls in porn are treated like trash

 

[Supmop]

A RoK passport by itself doesn't mean they necessarily were born and raised in Korea. Japan has a large population of Zainichi Koreans ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan#Registration_of_residents ) that although may be born and raised in Japan, for various reasons still hold Korean citizenship (and thus a Korean passport). So probably less a chance of them being 'imports' from across the Sea, but probably 100% ethnically Korean.

after read your post, made me re think it, if possible to hold korean or maybe chinese or taiwan citizenshipp too, its a slim chance they are imported across the sea

I suspected some AV idols are not pure japanese, they have chinese or korean bloodline but they are born and grown in japan not imported

 

[silent1one]

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No one stand to her side in this case, I really fond of her. It must be very hard. She had some unpleasant experiences in Ebisu Muscat. When Anri Okita was still a member of the group, they had a battle game and Anri Okita mock her in English : "She is very stupid", and Tia didn't reply her at all.

I know it's just a game, but the situation was really awkward and unpleasant. And now, she has another case with the group.

Tia actually have a YT channel where she post vlogs about her "private lives." https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCp-iLkIeCfGoww72IHrho7g
A lot of av idols started theirs own YT channel like American pornstars. There's 2 retiree that said they were coerce in to av. You can say Anri Okita can be a self-centered and stuck-up person sometimes. She's doing arts and singing now after retiring, so I guess she thinks she's better than other idols.

 

[ding73ding]

May 6, 2017: Rui Hiduki 妃月るい doesn't want to be an idol, is tied up, r***ing, choked and a drunken slut.

Everytime I meet an AV idol, I want to ask her "why did you wanted to become an AV performer?"

There are many kinds of answers. After all these years, I begin to be able to tell apart when the answer is fabricated by PR folks and memorized by the idol and when the answer is spoken from her heart.

So I believe Aimi Yoshikawa 吉川あいみ when she said "I was sick of being poor, I want to make a lot of money".

And I also believe Mio Kuroki 黒木澪 who said "I am very ecchi, I want lots of people watch me being very ecchi."

So what to make of Rui Hiduki's claim that "I join this AV career for exactly these kind of things". What things? Being tied up, r***ing, choked by the neck, and getting so pissed drunk that she's not even aware how many guys are fucking her.

[I skip some details, basically promoting the vid]

So with this vid pretty much ruin any trace of "idol" from Rui Hiduki, she is never able to go back to S1. Basically this is a loud scream that Rui is now with IdeaPocket. As to how much to believe her claim, well in her past vids she did show some tendency to play either M (masochist) or being r***ing. So maybe it's not totally PR bull.

Title: 耻さらし IPZ-963
Release date：June~July 2017 (planned)

 

[silent1one]

May 6, 2017: Rui Hiduki 妃月るい doesn't want to be an idol, is tied up, r***ing, choked and a drunken slut.

Everytime I meet an AV idol, I want to ask her "why did you wanted to become an AV performer?"

There are many kinds of answers. After all these years, I begin to be able to tell apart when the answer is fabricated by PR folks and memorized by the idol and when the answer is spoken from her heart.

So I believe Aimi Yoshikawa 吉川あいみ when she said "I was sick of being poor, I want to make a lot of money".

And I also believe Mio Kuroki 黒木澪 who said "I am very ecchi, I want lots of people watch me being very ecchi."

So what to make of Rui Hiduki's claim that "I join this AV career for exactly these kind of things". What things? Being tied up, r***ing, choked by the neck, and getting so pissed drunk that she's not even aware how many guys are fucking her.

[I skip some details, basically promoting the vid]

So with this vid pretty much ruin any trace of "idol" from Rui Hiduki, she is never able to go back to S1. Basically this is a loud scream that Rui is now with IdeaPocket. As to how much to believe her claim, well in her past vids she did show some tendency to play either M (masochist) or being r***ing. So maybe it's not totally PR bull.

Title: 耻さらし IPZ-963
Release date：June~July 2017 (planned)

Obvious answers are fame and money, which may sound too shallow and realistic. Others would say they're coerce in to it. Ex: Mihiro wanted to be a singer, so she became a gravure idol. Later on she was pressure in to becoming an av actress, but she was able to accomplish her singing dream by using av as a stepping stone. However, most guys only watch her for her av. Now she's married to a younger guy and occasional guest star on ecchi tv shows. I don't think popular av actresses would talk bad about the av industry especially they still rely on it even after retirement. Anri Okita turn support the av industry saying she don't believe anyone is being coerce in to av and only jealous girls would attack the av industry.

 

[ding73ding]

May 6, 2017: Mana Sakura 紗倉まな admitted to hospital

Mana Sakura tweeted today (May 4) that she had to cancel her promo event at some Pachinko parlors due to high fever. And at the hospital, she's diagnosed with inflammation of the kidney.

Other minor bits:

Mana Sakura recently also made some wave by writing fiction.

A twist of fate: Tia (see earlier news) will step in for Mana Sakura for the promo event.

Mao Hamazaki was also hospitalized for 2 weeks due to digestive infection.

Some AV idols such as Aoi enjoy tons of free time: just one vid a month, no promo events, not much work (updates) on social media. Without the structure of fixed work schedule some of them led an unhealthy lifestyle of eating and drinking, and partying.

Other idols work their tails off, like Mao Hamazaki and Meguri. Meguri recently released 13 new vids in a single month. Wakaba Onoue said she once filmed 20 vids in a month. Plus the demands of promo jobs, the heavy workload may also contribute to poor health of some idols.

 

[Supmop]

Thanks Ding Ding and appreciate your efforts on the translations, I was just curious - this is an interesting topic for me.

Supmop: I know what you mean like there have been some Zainichi Korean, SE Asian AV stars that may conceal this, of course there was SONAN that even showed her alien registration card on her Debut, (the best debut ever IMO) see pic below.

But I am sure there are some Korean girls that are study in Japan and appear in AV quietly - usually on titles where there are many girls performing, and maybe for smaller agencies - I mentioned some that have girls look very Korean to me.

Lets not forget there have been thousands of Korean girls hooking for Delivery Heath in Japan, so there is a supply of these girls already performing for Japanese men, they could make a lot more in AV as long as there were not easily noticed.

yess that what I thought I'm sure they are at least few dozens korean and chinese girls worked in japanese AV industry quietly, if they can blend in well or worked for small agency & performed in small productions its not easy to noticed them

 

[Supmop]

Anri Okita turn support the av industry saying she don't believe anyone is being coerce in to av and only jealous girls would attack the av industry.

and I more believe to what Anri Okita said than those she has been forced to do AV claimed

indonesian have this word : regrets always came too late, and westerner have this word : young people tend to make stupid decission

I'm sure many females, especially young girls choosed to work in AV because they want the money & fame, no one force them to do it, but when situation became not comfortable for them, getting negative judgement, they play victim and claim they are forced to do it, not many people are brave enough to admit its their own fault

I won't be surprise if more than 40 ex AV idols claimed they was forced and try to withdraw all their porn past from shops and internet, with this situation they will try to take advantege

seems they have think "if my children know that their mom is a slut, or how horrible would be if my son jerking off by watching my old porn"

 

[ding73ding]

May 8, 2017: Suzu Mitake 美竹すず 's career enters a creampie new era

Having released a vid with Moodyz, the smart fans already knew Suzu is no longer under contract with S1. But the assumption that she switched to become Moodyz's contract girl [as it seems fitting for a hot property] proved wrong as she denied it in a broadcast interview.

Now with her new vids announced, it's clear that Suzu is a true freelancer, CA [mother company of many well known studios] would send her to shoot vids with any and every studio. Apparently she loves creampies, so now she's figuratively a public bus, anyone can get on her. Ahh... well the historic pattern is that once a girl departs, she's never going back to S1.

It's quite a change from her days of innocence when she claimed to "lack self-confidence" and "still wishing to win acceptance in AV industry".

Now she's a sperm extraction machine. According to Slut Heaven, the studio behind her next vid (CJOD-087), Suzu's back and butt muscles are especially well developed so she's a natural talent for cowgirls and all kinds of sexual activity perfect for making male actors squirt plenty and often.

Well that's what the studio says to make a sell anyway. But indeed we may be seeing the launch of a new career direction, rather than a one-off.

 

[ding73ding]

May 8, 2017: Yua Mikami 三上悠亜 hot, Anri Kizuki 輝月あんり not

Having won the DMM Adult Awards, Yua Mikami fulfill her election promise by holding a photo event free of charge. The response was amazing, with reports of the quene being over 1000 people. And even female fans have been spotted in the queue.

As the first ever person to win Best Newcomer and then Best Performer in consecutive years, Yua Mikami is HOT HOT HOT. What about other girls who won nomination for Best Newcomers last year together with Yua? How are they doing now?

Take Anri Kizuki, after IdeaPocket and a short contract with SOD, she's slipping in prestige rather quickly. With a 2 months dry spell, she's unable to keep a steady income. Finally getting a new vid under a major studio, it turns out to be a low-brow gokkun vid (MIAE-071).

In the cruel world of JAV, falling from beloved fresh face to scrapping for survival in abuse vids within one short year is, in reality, commonplace.

 

[ekop]

Suzu mitake loves nakadashi?
I'd bet that Tokyo-hot gang would gladly make her as their personal meat toilet

 

[StageNinja47]

@ding73ding Thanks for the awesome thread. I really enjoy all the small random bits of info about the jav industry. Keep up the great work. I will be looking forward to reading more post as they come up.

 

[silent1one]

I agree. Young people want money and fame but don't take one second to think about their future and the consequences. And when they finally realize that the movie they shot will be watchable everywhere, they start being worried.

At the same time, Julia said that she was never recognized in the street, so if you manage your porn career "well", I think you can be "safe". Still, if a girl is honest, she will have to tell her husband at least (trust is the key). Personally, I would really prefer that the girl tells me about her past rather than find out by myself (jav fans have more chance to recognize a girl haha).

A lot of Japanese girls doesn't put on a lot of makeup outside of set and they tends to wear mask in public, so I guess that's why people don't recognize them. I don't think normal fans would just come up to them and ask for a selfie and autograph if they're not in a event or convention. I keep seeing news every now and then teachers getting fired for their softcore or hardcore career from a decade or two ago. Most of them shot only a few scenes and aren't even moderately famous. This shows us it's very easy to identify current famous av idols and western pornstars today especially with social media nowadays.

I guess there are those erotic type that don't care too much about traditional cultural views and just want to make money and have fun, but once they're popularity fade, they began to panic and regret especially if they're in a serious relationship or job now. Most choose to hide their past. Also, there are naive girls that are coerce in to av by persuasive and forceful agencies. Some may just want to be a gravure idol and hope one day they can be a famous movie stars like other Japanese celebrities.

 

[silent1one]

in Japan too ? I hear sometimes about that kind of case happening in the US (through a youtube channel). Here in France, I can't remember a similar case even if even amateur girls that are still students are recognized in their university because there is now a popular french porn "studio" among young people (full of ugly girls and guys, creepy, but people still watch that instead of movies with better production ... )

Well, a lot of old people are in to 50 shades of grey. The only famous French pornstar I know is Katsuni and she recently did a jailbreak movie that showcase her as a action star now.

I think I heard 1 or 2 cases from Japan, but mostly in America and Europe. If amateurs from a decade or two can be expose then popular av idols and pornstars today have no chance of concealing their identity after retirement especially with the power of social media today.

In Japan some of them may have gotten married like mihiro, but they're still somewhat relying on their av past to get jobs. Some make a living by just chatting with guests at clubs like Red Dragon. I know Saori Hara movies were removed by sod with people thinking she was one of the girls that were coerce in to av. She changed her name and married a old guy and recently she's back filming adult toku Garo tv series. In America a lot of them still do sex cam, dance at strip clubs, and attend conventions even after giving birth like Daisy Marie and Adrenalynn.

I think I posted this the other day, but another av idol memoir have been adapted in to a movie like Mihiro Nude and Platonic Lover. It seems she got a reporter job after retiring, but resign after she got "demoted" after the upper management found out of her past and now she's back in college. A lot of av actresses publish melodramatic memoir after retirement that covers their lives before and after av with some more or less frabicated details like every autobiography to garner viewers sympathy.

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/05/07/story-of-porn-star-who-joined-nikkei-shimbun-to-be-film/
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2015/05/08/av-actress-turned-nikkei-reporter-goes-back-to-school/

 

[Supmop]

A lot of Japanese girls doesn't put on a lot of makeup outside of set and they tends to wear mask in public, so I guess that's why people don't recognize them. I don't think normal fans would just come up to them and ask for a selfie and autograph if they're not in a event or convention. I keep seeing news every now and then teachers getting fired for their softcore or hardcore career from a decade or two ago. Most of them shot only a few scenes and aren't even moderately famous. This shows us it's very easy to identify current famous av idols and western pornstars today especially with social media nowadays.

trend of wearing mask in public are just few years back

I guess there are those erotic type that don't care too much about traditional cultural views and just want to make money and have fun, but once they're popularity fade, they began to panic and regret especially if they're in a serious relationship or job now. Most choose to hide their past. Also, there are naive girls that are coerce in to av by persuasive and forceful agencies. Some may just want to be a gravure idol and hope one day they can be a famous movie stars like other Japanese celebrities.

yes they hide their past, and with current situation they have momentum to delete their porn past, I don't blame them for this, but its funny a lot of people seems can't notice it

trick girls from photo session into porn shooting used to be fun & interesting theme for porn, but now its backstabbed the industry

 

[Supmop]

I agree. Young people want money and fame but don't take one second to think about their future and the consequences. And when they finally realize that the movie they shot will be watchable everywhere, they start being worried.

At the same time, Julia said that she was never recognized in the street, so if you manage your porn career "well", I think you can be "safe". Still, if a girl is honest, she will have to tell her husband at least (trust is the key). Personally, I would really prefer that the girl tells me about her past rather than find out by myself (jav fans have more chance to recognize a girl haha).

yup, regrets always came too late

agree, I don't know for JAV idols most of them are not open with their private live, but there are many examples of ex american and european pornstar who can live happy after retired, they don't deny or hide their porn past and still can get life partner (ordinary man outside from porn industry)

in Japan too ? I hear sometimes about that kind of case happening in the US (through a youtube channel). Here in France, I can't remember a similar case even if even amateur girls that are still students are recognized in their university because there is now a popular french porn "studio" among young people (full of ugly girls and guys, creepy, but people still watch that instead of movies with better production ... )

girls wearing mask in public area, became trend few years back, the first was when SARS plague, and after that became trend in many asian countries, especially east and south east asian

what kind of vids that you mean ? sex cam ? or like porn version of youtube ?

I just noticed the new rise of euro porn, when I saw many web base porn companies around europe, that encourage "amateurs" to do porn as side job, many of them are not good looking and bad camera angle, but many peoples are into this kind of porn

 

[silent1one]

trend of wearing mask in public are just few years back



yes they hide their past, and with current situation they have momentum to delete their porn past, I don't blame them for this, but its funny a lot of people seems can't notice it

trick girls from photo session into porn shooting used to be fun & interesting theme for porn, but now its backstabbed the industry

They still do it. I remember Ameri Ichinose did one a few years ago and someone subbed it in English. It's about her trying to change gravure idol agency, but the result is her cruel faith. I'm sure some of these stories are true, but definitely not all of them. Not all are happy, there's one American adult actress that got on the news because she was assaulted by teens and now back in porn to feed her family.

A lot of American pornstars got married and have kids and rather embrace it by starting her own porn website to make more money. Some are in relationship and stick to solo and lesbian scenes like Veronica Rodriguez, riley reid, and Mia malkova. Some of them used to star in several amwf with Japanese guys in America and Japan. Also, they smoke weed on their free time a lot and unlike in Japan, guys here thinks it's cool. Btw Julia used to be a receptionist and only got in to av because she need money after her apartment burn down and she don't have insurance.

 

[Supmop]

Well, a lot of old people are in to 50 shades of grey. The only famous French pornstar I know is Katsuni and she recently did a jailbreak movie that showcase her as a action star now.

I think I heard 1 or 2 cases from Japan, but mostly in America and Europe. If amateurs from a decade or two can be expose then popular av idols and pornstars today have no chance of concealing their identity after retirement especially with the power of social media today.

In Japan some of them may have gotten married like mihiro, but they're still somewhat relying on their av past to get jobs. Some make a living by just chatting with guests at clubs like Red Dragon. I know Saori Hara movies were removed by sod with people thinking she was one of the girls that were coerce in to av. She changed her name and married a old guy and recently she's back filming adult toku Garo tv series. In America a lot of them still do sex cam, dance at strip clubs, and attend conventions even after giving birth like Daisy Marie and Adrenalynn.

I think I posted this the other day, but another av idol memoir have been adapted in to a movie like Mihiro Nude and Platonic Lover. It seems she got a reporter job after retiring, but resign after she got "demoted" after the upper management found out of her past and now she's back in college. A lot of av actresses publish melodramatic memoir after retirement that covers their lives before and after av with some more or less frabicated details like every autobiography to garner viewers sympathy.

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/05/07/story-of-porn-star-who-joined-nikkei-shimbun-to-be-film/
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2015/05/08/av-actress-turned-nikkei-reporter-goes-back-to-school/

yes thats the fact, porn already build a very big internet database that still growing, so its impossible to hide it, even the official resources delete it, there many unofficial sites that still post it, the best they can do is to make it minimum as possible

after retired, some have jobs that still connected to their porn past, some are totally free from porn