Orgy megathread (no gangbang/harem)

which 3 girls orgy that you mean ? I guess not from Idea Pocket ?

Yumi Kazama and Maki Tomoda are from older generation, and they still active, maybe they will hold the record

I think big chance Ai Uehara wold make a comeback someday, she still young
Ai uehara didn't didnt her social media like yua aida and kaera uehara in the past, but is gone like yukiko suo. No updates. Girls that update after retirement are girls that made a comeback, in the entertainment industry like Anri Okita, or casual updater like Rio(tina yuzuki) and Aino Kishi.

Petite girls don't stand a chance after aging. They get cast out again like aging gravure idols. Marica Hase went to L.A after sod dump her. She was going to wait a few years and come back in milf av series, but she found success in America now. Busty girls can still get a lot of opportunities in Asian countries after retirement like Sora aoi, maria ozawa, and yui hatano(think she'll quit soon & she always have multiple release each month nowadays)
 
Ai uehara didn't didnt her social media like yua aida and kaera uehara in the past, but is gone like yukiko suo. No updates. Girls that update after retirement are girls that made a comeback, in the entertainment industry like Anri Okita, or casual updater like Rio(tina yuzuki) and Aino Kishi.

Petite girls don't stand a chance after aging. They get cast out again like aging gravure idols. Marica Hase went to L.A after sod dump her. She was going to wait a few years and come back in milf av series, but she found success in America now. Busty girls can still get a lot of opportunities in Asian countries after retirement like Sora aoi, maria ozawa, and yui hatano(think she'll quit soon & she always have multiple release each month nowadays)

Ai Uehara is not petite

there many girls who did not active on social media and made sudden comeback ;)
 
Ai Uehara is not petite

there many girls who did not active on social media and made sudden comeback ;)
Serena hakayawa and sarasa hara did, but they only got blogs in the past. Today, av stars wants to get known and studios spam on their twitter, so even retire doesnt mean fading away completely like yua aida era. Maybe ai uehara got a rich businessman to support her. A lot of gold digger out there and Chinese and Taiwanese businessmen pays a lot. You can practically find every genre out there done by ai uehara except milf though.
 
Serena hakayawa and sarasa hara did, but they only got blogs in the past. Today, av stars wants to get known and studios spam on their twitter, so even retire doesnt mean fading away completely like yua aida era. Maybe ai uehara got a rich businessman to support her. A lot of gold digger out there and Chinese and Taiwanese businessmen pays a lot. You can practically find every genre out there done by ai uehara except milf though.

yes, but some of them comeback suddenly so I won't surprise if Ai Uehara do it too, she already super famous, no need advertisement from social media

a lot of them retired because they married or have rich man who support her, but when they divorced or loose their sugar daddy many of them will comeback to the industy
 
yes, but some of them comeback suddenly so I won't surprise if Ai Uehara do it too, she already super famous, no need advertisement from social media

a lot of them retired because they married or have rich man who support her, but when they divorced or loose their sugar daddy many of them will comeback to the industy

Well, I agree. With the Internet history and social media, it's hard to return to live a common life after enjoying a few days of filming and receive a huge paycheck each month. People will recognize you and it's hard to get hired with a av background and no higher education.

Either marry a rich husband, make a come back in av/strip/prostit or go mainstream like mihiro, saori, sora, maria, okita. I think girls like yui hatano, shoko, and yua mikami will leave very soon and follow their footstep since they have a large fanbase in Asia. Even gravure idols like rio uchida, yuuri motrishita, and mikie hara is quite popular in Taiwan.
 
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Well, I agree. With the Internet history and social media, it's hard to return to live a common life after enjoying a few days of filming and receive a huge paycheck each month. People will recognize you and it's hard to get hired with a av background and no higher education.

Either marry a rich husband, make a come back in av/strip/prostit or go mainstream like mihiro, saori, sora, maria, okita. I think girls like yui hatano, shoko, and yua mikami will leave very soon and follow their footstep since they have a large fanbase in Asia. Even gravure idols like rio uchida, yuuri motrishita, and mikie hara is quite popular in Taiwan.

yes they can work as guest star in movies or tv shows, but if they can get enough offers I think they will try to make comeback
 
yes they can work as guest star in movies or tv shows, but if they can get enough offers I think they will try to make comeback
Video game promo, stage show, night club, variety show(shoko, yua, yui, and more, private business party performances(rola, sora, yui), and commercials(yui water bottle). Yui Hatano did all those in the past year or two and still have time to film multiple releases each month. Her celebrity look alike in Taiwan really boost her career and opportunities in other markets.
 
SOD really took over bus tour orgy from Moodyz, this time they made a much smaller girls group, too bad China Matsuoka already retired, I really wish SOD will continue this series with Iori Kogawa

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Yu Shinoda, Nagomi, Mana Sakura are the reason to watch this video
 
I believe group sex is always good. But there's good and there's great, these massive tour bus/royal game/fan appreciation vids are firmly good but not great category. Consider the many great/amazing orgy vids in the past, not a single one is tour bus or royal game. Problem is royal game is so UNspontaneous, it's totally contra to the free and wild spirit of a good orgy.

Well ok good is good. I only recently managed to get SDMU-454 (HD!) and it's definitely fine for more than one fapping sessions. But even amongst tour bus/royal game SDMU-454 is not especially good.

If I were in an orgy, surely I would go postal if I don't get quality fuck in at least three pussies and definitely I have to cum at least twice. The typical participant of a royal game get to ejaculate once and there's no sure promise he would penetrate a pussy or even a mouth. Some of the guys in SDMU-454, I think the most they got was a hand job.
 
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I believe group sex is always good. But there's good and there's great, these massive tour bus/royal game/fan appreciation vids are firmly good but not great category. Consider the many great/amazing orgy vids in the past, not a single one is tour bus or royal game. Problem is royal game is so UNspontaneous, it's totally contra to the free and wild spirit of a good orgy.

Well ok good is good. I only recently managed to get SDMU-454 (HD!) and it's definitely fine for more than one fapping sessions. But even amongst tour bus/royal game SDMU-454 is not especially good.

If I were in an orgy, surely I would go postal if I don't get quality fuck in at least three pussies and definitely I have to cum at least twice. The typical participant of a royal game get to ejaculate once and there's no sure promise he would penetrate a pussy or even a mouth. Some of the guys in SDMU-454, I think the most they got was a hand job.

I think the other minus point from bus tour / fans appreciation orgy are too much peoples having sex in the same room at the same time, so very difficult to focus and waste many good moments

ZUKO's videos are better, they put only few guys for long duration so they got big chance to fuck and cum more than 1x

don't find new great orgy video yet, I wish something special from Moodyz or studios collaboration special edition. Naomi, Rion, Shiori Kamisaki, Aimi Yoshikawa or Madonna's mature all stars : Maki Hojo, Nozomi Sasayama, Aki Sasaki, Yuna Takase would be awesome
 
I think the other minus point from bus tour / fans appreciation orgy are too much peoples having sex in the same room at the same time, so very difficult to focus and waste many good moments
I don't even mind that. As either real life participant (sorry still just a fantasy/bucket list), a film director (also imaginary) or viewer, I don't mind at all that "wasted good moments". To quote Andy Warhol of Men in Black 3 (!?) it's a happening. I.e. it's not Michelangelo's fresco. Just BE it, not every detail must be recorded and replayed. Hey next week we can hold another orgy.

Actually the best scenes of SDMU-454 are the ones with many people having sex at the same time. I just dislike that it's too orderly and orchestrated. If everyone is more free to do what he or she want with whom he or she likes, surely there would be more interesting moments and tensions. (say more than one girl want the some guy with a big cock, or some lame guy can't satisfy his assigned girl). E.g. in an old Magic Mirror Go vid, three top idols (Maria Ozawa was one) offer themselves to a "civilian" who happens to be a huge fan of only one of them. They want to make a 3P or 4P scene and all the idols were naked but the fan boy wouldn't even acknowledge the other two ladies presence. It was hilarious and awesome.

ZUKO did make some good orgy vids. I think we can divide the category to small orgy and grand orgy. Small orgy with 6P-8P, everyone knows each other's names and it's more familiar and orderly. Grand orgy or Roman orgy is with 20P or even more, it's a chaotic situation and it's simultaneously a dating game and group sex.

Some ZUKO vids take this very particular technique: several cameras each follow one girl's "journey" thru the some orgy session. So one 60 mins orgy session become 2+ hours vid, as a lot of "actions" will be repeated but from different camera angle and focus. Certainly no moments are "lost" but IMHO it's a gimmick that sometimes work. I would hate it if every orgy vid is filmed with that mindset.
 
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I don't even mind that. As either real life participant (sorry still just a fantasy/bucket list), a film director (also imaginary) or viewer, I don't mind at all that "wasted good moments". To quote Andy Warhol of Men in Black 3 (!?) it's a happening. I.e. it's not Michelangelo's fresco. Just BE it, not every detail must be recorded and replayed. Hey next week we can hold another orgy.

Actually the best scenes of SDMU-454 are the ones with many people having sex at the same time. I just dislike that it's too orderly and orchestrated. If everyone is more free to do what he or she want with whom he or she likes, surely there would be more interesting moments and tensions. (say more than one girl want the some guy with a big cock, or some lame guy can't satisfy his assigned girl). E.g. in an old Magic Mirror Go vid, three top idols (Maria Ozawa was one) offer themselves to a "civilian" who happens to be a huge fan of only one of them. They want to make a 3P or 4P scene and all the idols were naked but the fan boy wouldn't even acknowledge the other two ladies presence. It was hilarious and awesome.

thanks for mentioned it, beside very difficult to focus and wasted good moments, I dislike too orderly and orchestrated

agree free to do is more fun to watch, Moodyz have tried this concept with trouble maker group (3-4 girls they have their spin off videos from the bako bako bus tour), but its still looks orderly, because they only fuck in their own teritory in the final grand orgy scene

I prefer the camera more focus to favorite girls, and let the less attractive as the background, but its difficult to do in grand orgy situation, and sometimes they shot the less attractive girls more than the real hotties :(

and sometimes bad decission from cameraman, while Mari Hosokawa did hot cock riding he decided to zoom out and shot Yu Kawakami did lame handjob instead :aghh:

ZUKO did make some good orgy vids. I think we can divide the category to small orgy and grand orgy. Small orgy with 6P-8P, everyone knows each other's names and it's more familiar and orderly. Grand orgy or Roman orgy is with 20P or even more, it's a chaotic situation and it's simultaneously a dating game and group sex.

yes lets divide small orgy and grand orgy

I think grand orgy are more fun to do, but less fun to watch

I think the 4-6 girls orgy are the best to watch, they are fit in one screen, and not wasted many good moments

Some ZUKO vids take this very particular technique: several cameras each follow one girl's "journey" thru the some orgy session. So one 60 mins orgy session become 2+ hours vid, as a lot of "actions" will be repeated but from different camera angle and focus. Certainly no moments are "lost" but IMHO it's a gimmick that sometimes work. I would hate it if every orgy vid is filmed with that mindset.

its great, thats what I like from orgy videos, but agree with you too many videos like that will be boring too
 
GODS it's been like nuclear winter for orgy vids, even ZUKO had gone into a deep hole of POV and reverse gangbangs. And such a great tragedy Tokyo Hot and other uncensored studio had abandoned the tradition of making a grand orgy vid (or three or four) for the New Year and/or Lunar New Year. But happily, I rediscovered SDMU-454:

... SDMU-454 (HD!) and it's definitely fine for more than one fapping sessions. But even amongst tour bus/royal game SDMU-454 is not especially good.
I was slightly turned off by a few distractions (too many idols ruin the AV, too long (5 hours!) and too slow to get going and a very weird shrine in the last orgy scene). Once I went back and actually watch it a bit (due to bored by extremely poor new releases in all JAV) and found it to be a very very excellent grand orgy vid. Even perhaps... once I get to watch most of it, a most perfect orgy vid.

How come the total reversal? The key point is the actual orgy sex. Go back and read past posts what I (and friends) consider important factors for great orgy sex scenes: the right number (at least 5P, but more than 8P it gets pretty challenging to film) of players in a single scene, the optimal balance of wide angle (showing the grandness of the orgy) but have lots of focal shots (2P to 4P for most cuts) and also balance between floating focus (shifting between different couplings) and steady focus (camera stay on one sex act for more than 1 minute), maintain a free-for-all atmosphere, avoid too much orchestration, encourage both guys and girls to initiate sex acts and partner swapping. SDMU-454 hits all of these factors perfectly, most importantly for an orgy, everyone get plenty of sex and everyone is super happy, that's what orgy is about!

Plus there's more:

Grand orgy: 16F 19M that should be called great grand orgy really. Usually it makes an impressive but not the most fappilicious experience. Great example is the winner for AVOP 2015, that one had just as many idols, and even more star power (Julia etc) but I never feel the urge to watch it again. How to make rock-hard-erection grand orgy? The key is lots and lots of sex. And so the 300 minutes run time makes perfect sense. The vid was broken up into scenes and situations with sometimes 4 or 5 girls and a few scenes with (presumably) all 16 girls in play. There are excellent variety in setting (starting inside the bus and then a variety of settings at the hot spring resort) and sex acts (e.g. the first scene (warmup) was the blowjob/handjob in the bus). Worth a special mention is a scene in a shower room with 5 "sluts" and number of guys had excellent group sex with the extra bonus of F-on-M pissing. Especially Asahi Mizuno let go a powerful piss jet on a fan's hair and even rubs it in as if it's shampoo, and even performs it from different positions. Now I'm not a fan of golden shower, but if there's a right setting for it, this is it: wild orgy in a shower with plenty of water and soap to flush out the urine stain and smell. At least one more busty idol (Kaho Shibuya?) piss on a guy too.

Fan fest: amateur male performers underperform, that's just law of nature, but these guys performed. They are reasonably convincing as non-professional / civilians but more importantly have decent libidos, eagerness and non-terribly tiny dicks and functional erections. Also they generally have enough stamina to make orgy scenes and not-incapable to orgasm/produce sufficient quantity of sperm. So many fan fest vids over-manage or mistreat the fans so they make very poor sex, this time we get the perfect performance (both realish and potent).

Long vid: most long vids are disappointing and boring. This one does it right. First there are so many idols to fill the time and plenty of settings and broken up in scenes with interspersed non-sex scenes. The cover also screams out "Unlimited ejaculations" and "79 com shots" which are usually negative but here they are perfect. 79 cum shots from 19 fans on 16 idols over (about) 9 scenes and 300 minutes, it works out! Also there's a game aspect in both the non-sex and sex scenes which assigns the fans to different groups and qualification for the final grand orgy. Unlike many royal games (too much orchestration) and fan fest non-sex scenes, these adds to sexual build-up and provide some rest time for both the male performers and us the fapping audience to restore some stamina between orgasms.

This vid is too long and complicated to do a play-by-play, just go and get it, buy it even. This post isn't written to convince you to watch it, just watch it anyway. I spent the time to write out so we can discuss the good aspects of it and maybe find other vids (even future vids) with similar qualities.
 
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GODS it's been like nuclear winter for orgy vids, even ZUKO had gone into a deep hole of POV and reverse gangbangs. And such a great tragedy Tokyo Hot and other uncensored studio had abandoned the tradition of making a grand orgy vid (or three or four) for the New Year and/or Lunar New Year. But happily, I rediscovered SDMU-454:

yes, its very bad period for orgy, already few months Zukkon never released orgy video, Moodyz too :(

a bit happy news from SOD that took over bako bako bus tour, but overall from other studios (both censsored and uncenssored) still very rare to see good orgy video :(

I was slightly turned off by a few distractions (too many idols ruin the AV, too long (5 hours!) and too slow to get going and a very weird shrine in the last orgy scene). Once I went back and actually watch it a bit (due to bored by extremely poor new releases in all JAV) and found it to be a very very excellent grand orgy vid. Even perhaps... once I get to watch most of it, a most perfect orgy vid.

How come the total reversal? The key point is the actual orgy sex. Go back and read past posts what I (and friends) consider important factors for great orgy sex scenes: the right number (at least 5P, but more than 8P it gets pretty challenging to film) of players in a single scene, the optimal balance of wide angle (showing the grandness of the orgy) but have lots of focal shots (2P to 4P for most cuts) and also balance between floating focus (shifting between different couplings) and steady focus (camera stay on one sex act for more than 1 minute), maintain a free-for-all atmosphere, avoid too much orchestration, encourage both guys and girls to initiate sex acts and partner swapping. SDMU-454 hits all of these factors perfectly, most importantly for an orgy, everyone get plenty of sex and everyone is super happy, that's what orgy is about!

Plus there's more:

Grand orgy: 16F 19M that should be called great grand orgy really. Usually it makes an impressive but not the most fappilicious experience. Great example is the winner for AVOP 2015, that one had just as many idols, and even more star power (Julia etc) but I never feel the urge to watch it again. How to make rock-hard-erection grand orgy? The key is lots and lots of sex. And so the 300 minutes run time makes perfect sense. The vid was broken up into scenes and situations with sometimes 4 or 5 girls and a few scenes with (presumably) all 16 girls in play. There are excellent variety in setting (starting inside the bus and then a variety of settings at the hot spring resort) and sex acts (e.g. the first scene (warmup) was the blowjob/handjob in the bus). Worth a special mention is a scene in a shower room with 5 "sluts" and number of guys had excellent group sex with the extra bonus of F-on-M pissing. Especially Asahi Mizuno let go a powerful piss jet on a fan's hair and even rubs it in as if it's shampoo, and even performs it from different positions. Now I'm not a fan of golden shower, but if there's a right setting for it, this is it: wild orgy in a shower with plenty of water and soap to flush out the urine stain and smell. At least one more busty idol (Kaho Shibuya?) piss on a guy too.

Fan fest: amateur male performers underperform, that's just law of nature, but these guys performed. They are reasonably convincing as non-professional / civilians but more importantly have decent libidos, eagerness and non-terribly tiny dicks and functional erections. Also they generally have enough stamina to make orgy scenes and not-incapable to orgasm/produce sufficient quantity of sperm. So many fan fest vids over-manage or mistreat the fans so they make very poor sex, this time we get the perfect performance (both realish and potent).

Long vid: most long vids are disappointing and boring. This one does it right. First there are so many idols to fill the time and plenty of settings and broken up in scenes with interspersed non-sex scenes. The cover also screams out "Unlimited ejaculations" and "79 com shots" which are usually negative but here they are perfect. 79 cum shots from 19 fans on 16 idols over (about) 9 scenes and 300 minutes, it works out! Also there's a game aspect in both the non-sex and sex scenes which assigns the fans to different groups and qualification for the final grand orgy. Unlike many royal games (too much orchestration) and fan fest non-sex scenes, these adds to sexual build-up and provide some rest time for both the male performers and us the fapping audience to restore some stamina between orgasms.

This vid is too long and complicated to do a play-by-play, just go and get it, buy it even. This post isn't written to convince you to watch it, just watch it anyway. I spent the time to write out so we can discuss the good aspects of it and maybe find other vids (even future vids) with similar qualities.

Kaho Shibuya is awesome, with Aimi Yoshikawa I think they are the best big boobs girls right now
 
i like the one that sho is a mad teacher mird 074 . so great to see risa r***ing the teacher in this movies too.

I like most of Moodyz's orgy videos, those are great, hope they will continue make it again, their 4 females are hot (school teacher, heavenly body, young women, ecc)
 
Some ZUKO vids take this very particular technique: several cameras each follow one girl's "journey" thru the some orgy session. So one 60 mins orgy session become 2+ hours vid, as a lot of "actions" will be repeated but from different camera angle and focus. Certainly no moments are "lost" but IMHO it's a gimmick that sometimes work. I would hate it if every orgy vid is filmed with that mindset.
Interesting observation, do you recall the titles? I would love to see the technique
 
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/1...-for-sending-actresses-to-outdoor-porn-shoot/
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/0...2-persons-prosecuted-over-outdoor-porn-shoot/

this is out of topic, but I think still related, so if you guys curious why Moodyz's discontinue their Bako Bako mega project, maybe those news can answer our question
Taking the coercion claim at face value who do you think the victim was in MIRD-130? Need to rewatch it lol
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Taking the coercion claim at face value who do you think the victim was in MIRD-130? Need to rewatch it lol
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there are no victim in the vid, the problem are their outdoor orgy activities was claimed disturbing neighbourhood, so the "victims" are peoples around the shooting area