Uncensored jav and censored jav

[Charming69]

Well uncensored ones seems like a second class compare to censored ones
But now I think they catching up
Like caribbean 1pondo and heyzo

 

[Inertia]

Lack of storylines aside, something seems to be off about many uncensored titles.

 

[mightyeel]

Japanese male genitals exposed...arrrrggghhhh

 

[Charming69]

Yeah no storyline
But the actress seems improved

 

[Supmop]

Well uncensored ones seems like a second class compare to censored ones
But now I think they catching up
Like caribbean 1pondo and heyzo

why do you rhink the ucenssored seems like the second best compare to censsored ? because the censsored has much more s class performers ?

 

[Charming69]

why do you rhink the ucenssored seems like the second best compare to censsored ? because the censsored has much more s class performers ?

Yeps thats the factors

 

[Supmop]

Yeps thats the factors

thats because the uncenssored JAV are illegal in Japan, its mean difficult for the companies to make huge production, so they prefer to make the legal censsored movies, and they can hired much more actress

 

[Inertia]

Actually uncensored is extremely popular even in Japan and many top rank actresses have done uncensored now. Of course a good deal of uncensored stars lesser names, but not a month goes by without a huge name doing something uncensored.

 

[Albert Tatlock]

Lack of storylines aside, something seems to be off about many uncensored titles.

I agree with you in part. I've see some Caribbean.com videos, say with Ai Uehara and I've been quite disappointed, not in Ai of course , she's gorgeous, but for me it just didn't seem to work as well as her uncensored stuff.

I agree about the improvement in uncensored JAV with Pondo and Heyzo, but one that really impressed me recently is Tokio Hot's n1117, which is available on here. The actress is absolutely lovely, cute as a button and performs well. It certainly does it for me.

 

[Fisheraaa]

I'll give you guys some info because you all seem realy clueless about uncensored.
So ... first of all Heyzo, 1pondo and caribbean are not producers/studios (for the most part), they are just distributors. They just buy the rights to movies produced by jav studios, and then split each movie into 2 parts and post it on their sites.
Those movies/dvds/blu-rays created by the studios could be found on the largest distributor's website aventertainments.com . If you spend some time on that site you will see that theres quite a lot of studios that do uncensored. Some of them have great production value and some lesser, which is the reason why you see some great clips on heyzo, 1pondo and caribbean and some that are crap ... because they are produced by different studios with different standarts.
And to be honest ... a lot of the uncensored studios (Sky High, Mugen, Catwalk ... to name a few) have superior production value to like 95 % of censored studios. The camera work, makeup, video quality etc. make most censored jav look like amateur homemade stuff. The only thing that censored has over uncensored is the fetishes (which is a big factor ofcourse).
Oh and also ... people often compare gachinco, pacopaco mama and other studios that film amateurish clips to high end censored studios. That's not a fair duel ... take something like Miku Ohashi's retirement video done by CATWALK and compare it to whatever censored video you want and if you take the fetishes aside, it's actualy an amazing production nomatter what standarts you've got.

And as for Ai Uehara's crap uncensored scenes ... they were done by Stage 2 Media who are realy bad tbh.

 

[Inertia]

Fisheraaa: wrong there friend. Heyzo, 1pondo, etc are all owned by the same company: Dreamroom. Dreamroom also makes a massive chunk of the movies you see on AVEntertainments. Check the 2257 info on all the sites you mentioned above and most will be for Dreamroom. You can pretty much consider them the Standard Oil of uncensored JAV. Their market share is THAT huge.

The Ai Uehara uncensored movie that just came out in December was also made by them: http://www.caribbeancompr.com/movie...uest_top&utm_campaign=uehara_preorder_Dec2015

I don't necessarily agree on production value. Sometimes they're better, but sometimes they aren't and I feel its more misses than hits though this can be due to using cameras and lighting that are TOO good. Very often the same AV star that looks great in censored work looks off in uncensored. I think I wrote this elsewhere, but uncensored movies also seem almost devoid of any story which makes many feel lifeless. You get to see their vaginas, but it turns into nothing but emotion-less sex fests.

 

[Fisheraaa]

To add some off topic ... currently i can't investigate because theres 5 people in the room, so i can't open porn sites ... but i still can type here because they don't understand english at all

Anyway ... heyzo, 1pondo and caribbean being owned by dreamroom doesn't change a lot. All those 3 sites do is publishing.
If all (most) movies were created by dreamroom, why would they be labeled by different studios' names? Because most likely than not Dreamroom is just a publisher that works with a lot of studios but dreamroom themselves don't create the content. The closest example i can think of is with video games ... people think a lot of games are created by EA Games, while in reality they are created by some developer studios and being published by EA.

 

[Inertia]

The actual production for many AV both censored and uncensored is done freelance. Do people who directly work for Dreamroom shoot the movies? Doubtful. It's probably the same assortment of camera crew and staff that shoot AV for tons of studios both uncensored like them and censored in Japan. However, the bill for the shoot is footed by Dreamroom and they own the copyright to the title. Some studios have production staff on salary, but it's not as common as you think outside of big ones. Dreamroom working in the legal gray area obviously faces even more challenges with keeping people living in Japan on staff outside of being independent contractors.

They label with different site names for the sake of variety. Why doesn't Coca-Cola label all their drinks with coke in the name? Why doesn't Yum Foods include their name in all the franchises they own? Variety.

It's the same reason why Dreamroom owns multiple sites and sub-labels and this applies to censored AV as well because many studios operate sub-labels. Similar concept.

 

[Fisheraaa]

This makes more sence, i could settle on agreement.

 

[Supmop]

Actually uncensored is extremely popular even in Japan and many top rank actresses have done uncensored now. Of course a good deal of uncensored stars lesser names, but not a month goes by without a huge name doing something uncensored.

yes I agree, for most people ofcourse watching porn without mozaik are more fun, thanks for your correction

but I think becaused its still illegal in Japan, make studios prefer to make the censsored movies ?

 

[Supmop]

I'll give you guys some info because you all seem realy clueless about uncensored.
So ... first of all Heyzo, 1pondo and caribbean are not producers/studios (for the most part), they are just distributors. They just buy the rights to movies produced by jav studios, and then split each movie into 2 parts and post it on their sites.
Those movies/dvds/blu-rays created by the studios could be found on the largest distributor's website aventertainments.com . If you spend some time on that site you will see that theres quite a lot of studios that do uncensored. Some of them have great production value and some lesser, which is the reason why you see some great clips on heyzo, 1pondo and caribbean and some that are crap ... because they are produced by different studios with different standarts.
And to be honest ... a lot of the uncensored studios (Sky High, Mugen, Catwalk ... to name a few) have superior production value to like 95 % of censored studios. The camera work, makeup, video quality etc. make most censored jav look like amateur homemade stuff. The only thing that censored has over uncensored is the fetishes (which is a big factor ofcourse).
Oh and also ... people often compare gachinco, pacopaco mama and other studios that film amateurish clips to high end censored studios. That's not a fair duel ... take something like Miku Ohashi's retirement video done by CATWALK and compare it to whatever censored video you want and if you take the fetishes aside, it's actualy an amazing production nomatter what standarts you've got.

And as for Ai Uehara's crap uncensored scenes ... they were done by Stage 2 Media who are realy bad tbh.

thats why if we search more careful and more detail, we can find the same scenes from studios like Sky High, S Models, ecc are in heyzo, 1pondo and caribbean too

and there are rumours some of the uncenssored studios are actually owned by the censsored studios

I agree fetishes are big factor, most of the uncenssored movies that I 've watched just straight plain sex, censsored still richer in fetishes, genres and themes

 

[Supmop]

I don't necessarily agree on production value. Sometimes they're better, but sometimes they aren't and I feel its more misses than hits though this can be due to using cameras and lighting that are TOO good. Very often the same AV star that looks great in censored work looks off in uncensored. I think I wrote this elsewhere, but uncensored movies also seem almost devoid of any story which makes many feel lifeless. You get to see their vaginas, but it turns into nothing but emotion-less sex fests.

from others forum, I read people prefer to see censsored JAV because the camera not too focus to the vagina / penetration, and I agree with this, for me a great porn need to shot the female's face too and the whole body during sex action not only vagina

The actual production for many AV both censored and uncensored is done freelance. Do people who directly work for Dreamroom shoot the movies? Doubtful. It's probably the same assortment of camera crew and staff that shoot AV for tons of studios both uncensored like them and censored in Japan. However, the bill for the shoot is footed by Dreamroom and they own the copyright to the title. Some studios have production staff on salary, but it's not as common as you think outside of big ones. Dreamroom working in the legal gray area obviously faces even more challenges with keeping people living in Japan on staff outside of being independent contractors.

They label with different site names for the sake of variety. Why doesn't Coca-Cola label all their drinks with coke in the name? Why doesn't Yum Foods include their name in all the franchises they own? Variety.

It's the same reason why Dreamroom owns multiple sites and sub-labels and this applies to censored AV as well because many studios operate sub-labels. Similar concept.

btw I'm curious about this, sorry if you have mentioned about this before

I read rumours that some uncenssored JAV studios / publisher are owned by the same people who owned the legal censsored studios, is this true ?

 

[Inertia]

I haven't heard any rumors about censored studios owning uncensored ones. It could be possible?

There are a few that import uncensored JAV back into Japan and add mosaic so it can be sold in video stores though.

 

[Supmop]

I haven't heard any rumors about censored studios owning uncensored ones. It could be possible?

There are a few that import uncensored JAV back into Japan and add mosaic so it can be sold in video stores though.

If they do it secretly it is possible ? I mean if they play it without any solid evidence that could bring them to jail, its possible for the legal censsored studio to play in the uncenssored market too ?

 

[Inertia]

The only illegal thing is distributing uncensored movies. A censored studio can theoretically create a second company abroad and host all contents there and thus produce uncensored AV too.

If you're referring to a censored studio secretly taking their own movies and releasing them uncensored, then that's something that would land them in deep trouble.