Would you date a JAV actresses?

So, what is your answer?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 77.1%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 4 11.4%
  • Might ruminate if she have other noble qualities.

    Votes: 4 11.4%

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silent1one

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They might not be as hot or goddess like as you imagine. Lighting, makeup, and surgery creates her beauty, so her kids won't be perfect either. There might be health concern and people you know recognize her. Most people might look for mistress or one night stand like wealthy Asian businessman in the news paying them. Av idols are package as down to earth friendly girl next door like regular idol these days. If there's any fan out there can travel to Japan and secure a longterm relationship with their idol, let me know. Most pornstars in the west date within the industry or try to fade away and it's hard with social media these days,
 

silent1one

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I dunno, I follow a few JAV idols on twitter, and they are very normal people aside from their tweet about shooting movies.. I'm not sure why it is but being a JAV idol seems much more accepted in Japan than being a porn star in the USA.. They interact with their fans just like a regular twitter user would. Perhaps it's because I follow mostly younger stars, and newer girls in the industry, but they seem very fun and are very grateful for fan interaction.
I do follow their twitters too, but I read news about diva in the idol industry and same goes for av. Their agency are tough on their image and any scandal in private lives like dating or even smoking can get them demoted. It's part of their contract to act cute and genuine in shoots and taking photos with fans at events. You can see how fake the host personalities of variety shows, interviews and game shows are. Girls like Yua mikami and shoko are struck with scandals that kill their idol career or pass along after they graduated and replace by newbies. They now can afford apartment in tokyo after a few releases according to a news article. Av are known for exploiting young unsuccessful gravure idols like mihiro and aino. Yui hatano join av because the idol industry is too competitive. They use av as a stepping stone to get a rich husband or enter mainstream market like maria, sora, and anri okita. Not everyone are like this and some popular ones fade away over time. Btw alice miyuki quit av for her bf and was caught by paparazi. I think her bf is a small actor or singer.
 

darksider59

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I dunno, I follow a few JAV idols on twitter, and they are very normal people aside from their tweet about shooting movies.. I'm not sure why it is but being a JAV idol seems much more accepted in Japan than being a porn star in the USA.. They interact with their fans just like a regular twitter user would. Perhaps it's because I follow mostly younger stars, and newer girls in the industry, but they seem very fun and are very grateful for fan interaction.

I even see some of them talking about games or anime. They are clearly more like any other japanese girls on social media. When you visit twitter accounts of american porn actresses, you have trashy talk and stuff (like "see my pussy !!, I'm so horny", "Mandingo fucked me so hard !").

Yui hatano join av because the idol industry is too competitive. They use av as a stepping stone to get a rich husband or enter mainstream market like maria, sora, and anri okita. Not everyone are like this and some popular ones fade away over time.

Yuma Asami is now a maintstream singer. Even if I want to see new porn stuff with her, I'm really happy for her to be able to do something else (plus she had a cancer). She is now a singer because she can sing and play guitar. To survive in the mainstream entertainment, you need to have talent. So yes, AV can be a stepping stone, but you need talent for the market you want to enter otherwise, you will fail.
 
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Supmop

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I do follow their twitters too, but I read news about diva in the idol industry and same goes for av. Their agency are tough on their image and any scandal in private lives like dating or even smoking can get them demoted. It's part of their contract to act cute and genuine in shoots and taking photos with fans at events. You can see how fake the host personalities of variety shows, interviews and game shows are. Girls like Yua mikami and shoko are struck with scandals that kill their idol career or pass along after they graduated and replace by newbies. They now can afford apartment in tokyo after a few releases according to a news article. Av are known for exploiting young unsuccessful gravure idols like mihiro and aino. Yui hatano join av because the idol industry is too competitive. They use av as a stepping stone to get a rich husband or enter mainstream market like maria, sora, and anri okita. Not everyone are like this and some popular ones fade away over time. Btw alice miyuki quit av for her bf and was caught by paparazi. I think her bf is a small actor or singer.

I disagree with that, AV give oppurtunity for those girls, and if they don't like it they can choose other career
 

Supmop

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I dunno, I follow a few JAV idols on twitter, and they are very normal people aside from their tweet about shooting movies.. I'm not sure why it is but being a JAV idol seems much more accepted in Japan than being a porn star in the USA.. They interact with their fans just like a regular twitter user would. Perhaps it's because I follow mostly younger stars, and newer girls in the industry, but they seem very fun and are very grateful for fan interaction.

I agree

from what I saw JAV idols are different from american porn stars, I've seen Tsubasa Amami posted a lot of her selfie and groupie photos with her friends (males & females not from the industry), looks like very normal girl, posted her daily activities, hangout with friends, foods & drink, sometimes some stuffs and pets

and younger japanese generation are more open to AV actresses, I think they consider it as normal prefession, similiar with other showbiz
 
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silent1one

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I disagree with that, AV give oppurtunity for those girls, and if they don't like it they can choose other career
Leftover gravure idols and some naive girls regret it. There are cases they are pressure to change to av according to news and mihiro bio.
 

Supmop

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I even see some of them talking about games or anime. They are clearly more like any other japanese girls on social media. When you visit twitter accounts of american porn actresses, you have trashy talk and stuff (like "see my pussy !!, I'm so horny", "Mandingo fucked me so hard !").

thats true

from what I seen from their social media, compare to western pornstars, AV idols are much more normal girls, they posted funny and sometimes stupid things non porn related stuff

Yuma Asami is now a maintstream singer. Even if I want to see new porn stuff with her, I'm really happy for her to be able to do something else (plus she had a cancer). She is now a singer because she can sing and play guitar. To survive in the mainstream entertainment, you need to have talent. So yes, AV can be a stepping stone, but you need talent for the market you want to enter otherwise, you will fail.

if she not get cancer I think she still at the industry for at least 5 years more

she have many other talents, and its good for her :)

totally agree with you
 

Supmop

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Leftover gravure idols and some naive girls regret it. There are cases they are pressure to change to av according to news and mihiro bio.

not all the news are telling the truth :D

and females (males too) tend to play victim
 

radaogapgap

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Did anyone here use to watch Stephen Chow's King Of Comedy? That's the noble qualities for women I mentioned
But I didn't expect it to JAV actresses because this career is related too much to money.
 

pikuseru

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I think the JAV actresses that seem the most interesting as people are the ones who genuinely enjoy being in JAV, they don't do JAV just for the money. Because you get a glimpse of the real person, with real desires, not just someone acting or faking it. Some examples of interesting girls: Sana Mizuhara, Tomoko Ashida, Azusa Nagasawa. Because people who are only motivated by the next paycheque are very boring people and not worth a relationship.
 

silent1one

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I think the JAV actresses that seem the most interesting as people are the ones who genuinely enjoy being in JAV, they don't do JAV just for the money. Because you get a glimpse of the real person, with real desires, not just someone acting or faking it. Some examples of interesting girls: Sana Mizuhara, Tomoko Ashida, Azusa Nagasawa. Because people who are only motivated by the next paycheque are very boring people and not worth a relationship.
i remember some european pornstar did it for personal research or treating it as a form of art.

I seen a lot of reports of American pornstars and Japanese av actresses do it for quick money for college, tricked/Forced in to it, naive luxury city life, and more.

Some can't cope with it after retirement(getting old), get fired from her current job, back to stripping/porn/prostitution, and suffer from drug overdoses.

Also, there are those that enjoy it vanilla or hardcore. They're good friends with the same few av actors. They just don't get bother by the backlashes and the common cultural perception of selling your body for money. They also make a decent living and enjoy life after retirement and still hang out with their av friends like Sora, Maria, Rio, Aino, and Okita.

Shimiken say he won't date anyone in the industry because he don't mind having sex with hot girls like yui hatano, but can't accept other can have sex with her. A few American pornstars like Mia Malkova(done AMWF) only do solo and lesbian now after marrying a fellow pornstar.

The perception of aging idol, std, people or stranger that knows your girlfriend did porn will always haunt you especially during the Social media era today. It's not like you can turn back time. Even amateur cam girls said they get recognize on the steet.
 
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pikuseru

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i remember some european pornstar did it for personal research or treating it as a form of art.

I seen a lot of reports of American pornstars and Japanese av actresses do it for quick money for college, tricked/Forced in to it, naive luxury city life, and more.

Some can't cope with it after retirement(getting old), get fired from her current job, back to stripping/porn/prostitution, and suffer from drug overdoses.

Also, there are those that enjoy it vanilla or hardcore. They're good friends with the same few av actors. They just don't get bother by the backlashes and the common cultural perception of selling your body for money. They also make a decent living and enjoy life after retirement and still hang out with their av friends like Sora, Maria, Rio, Aino, and Okita.

Someone posted behind the scene video Chasey Lain in another thread, and she's obviously an unhappy/troubled woman with a bad personality. That said, part of the reason I like JAV is because JAV idols seem more "normal" and real people to me than American porn stars. When a girl has no real passions, I think you can tell when you watch them.

Shimiken say he won't date anyone in the industry because he don't mind having sex with hot girls like yui hatano, but can't accept other can have sex with her. A few American pornstars like Mia Malkova(done AMWF) only do solo and lesbian now after marrying a fellow pornstar.

The perception of aging idol, std, people or stranger that knows your girlfriend did porn will always haunt you especially during the Social media era today. It's not like you can turn back time. Even amateur cam girls said they get recognize on the steet.

I think it's weird guys would be ashamed their girlfriend is Yui Hatano or some other girl in JAV. He's not ashamed to watch her get fucked by multiple men, or fuck her while she's fucking multiple men, but he's ashamed to date her? That seems like double standard, it's okay for guys to fuck other girls, but not other way around.

If I date Yui Hatano, I would be dating a girl that probably many other guys covet. Guys would be jealous of me. That would make me proud, not ashamed. But maybe that's just me.
 

silent1one

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Someone posted behind the scene video Chasey Lain in another thread, and she's obviously an unhappy/troubled woman with a bad personality. That said, part of the reason I like JAV is because JAV idols seem more "normal" and real people to me than American porn stars. When a girl has no real passions, I think you can tell when you watch them.



I think it's weird guys would be ashamed their girlfriend is Yui Hatano or some other girl in JAV. He's not ashamed to watch her get fucked by multiple men, or fuck her while she's fucking multiple men, but he's ashamed to date her? That seems like double standard, it's okay for guys to fuck other girls, but not other way around.

If I date Yui Hatano, I would be dating a girl that probably many other guys covet. Guys would be jealous of me. That would make me proud, not ashamed. But maybe that's just me.

It wasn't yui hatano. The av actor shimiken mention he dated someone in the industry in the past, but now will only date someone outside of it. I was just using an example. Idk who she is. I can understand from his perspective. It's rude, but it's true that you see your male co-stars taking turn at her for a living.

Also, I was talking about the normal non-av salaryman. It's hard to date someone that have countless sex on camera while you have maybe less than a handful of girlfriend in your past. Not only a lot of people will recognize her and she might be different than what you expect. She also making a lot more than you and will not retire for you. You may love their looks and personality, but you'll have a hard time pleasing her and avoiding people that knows who she is.

A Taiwanese male Popstar look alike av actor married an outsider last year.(yui hatano is known as linchiling look alike & invited to countless Taiwanese shows)
 

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http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/10/31/porn-starlet-exposed-by-the-tokyo-tax-office
Hard to please av idol thesedays with as a typical salaryman. $10,000 per film with at least one per a month + wealthy businessmen and av events across Asia. No wonder top av idols can afford luxury cars, clothing, apartment, and have many fancy girl nights.(seen them bragging it on some of their twitter sometimes)
Wow 45 millions yen a year is an impressive number. I'd like to be an av actress a year, then I would use those money to invest other businesses.
Not a bad choice for those amateur girls who dont mind being filmed. Actually, would you reliaze her when you see her on street? Even so, what would you do then? They will go back to their normal life, things just get forgotten afterwards :D.
But wait, are all Yuria Satomi's boyfriends rich businessmen? Oh she's such a high-class call girl. And she keeps filming porn after over 200 millions yen income per year? What did she want? Does she want to be richer than her boyfriends? Or is she planing to be a billionaire:D? Yui Hatano is much more popular, let's imagine the money she could make:rolleyes:.
There is so many ways for a hot girl: being a beautiful girl living normally with your family or a rich porn actress:) I prefer the first one, because there's still chance for us to marry a pretty girl:D
 
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silent1one

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Wow 45 millions yen a year is an impressive number. I'd like to be an av actress a year, then I would use those money to invest other businesses.
Not a bad choice for those amateur girls who dont mind being filmed. Actually, would you reliaze her when you see her on street? Even so, what would you do then? They will go back to their normal life, things just get forgotten afterwards :D.
But wait, are all Yuria Satomi's boyfriends rich businessmen? Oh she's such a high-class call girl. And she keeps filming porn after over 200 millions yen income per year? What did she want? Does she want to be richer than her boyfriends? Or is she planing to be a billionaire:D? Yui Hatano is much more popular, let's imagine the money she could make:rolleyes:.
There is so many ways for a hot girl: being a beautiful girl living normally with your family or a rich porn actress:) I prefer the first one, because there's still chance for us to marry a pretty girl:D
There's report the first half of 2016 belongs to yua mikami, but now is shoko takahashi. Yui is getting older, but she filmed multiple films that are releases in the same month from those extreme studios, so I would assume she's still pretty wealthy. She also constanly get invited to Asian countries(mainly Taiwan because she look like the movie star linchiling there) to film video game commercial, micro movies, stageshow/nightclub, and not to mention the luxury gifts she receive from fans or clients if she's selling herself offscreen. I would assume she makes a few million USD a year during her peak. Ambitious Anri Okita and Sora Aoi been making mainstream money doing shows and promotion events after retirement.

cosplaying a queen with fans
 
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http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/10/31/porn-starlet-exposed-by-the-tokyo-tax-office
Hard to please av idol thesedays with as a typical salaryman. $10,000 per film with at least one per a month + wealthy businessmen and av events across Asia. No wonder top av idols can afford luxury cars, clothing, apartment, and have many fancy girl nights.(seen them bragging it on some of their twitter sometimes)
I'm very suspicious of most of the numbers in that report. We've discussed AV idol income many times, the consensus seems to be 1 million yens per film is about the top line pay, not at all the typical pay. Not even the top idol can expect to keep getting those offers for a long time (6 months?). E.g. the uncensored debut of a top AV idol can get that much for one (plus maybe a second "debut") uncensored title.

Typical AV idol probably makes more than a salaryman, but unlikely she can save so much money in a typical career (3-5 years) to not need to work for the rest of her life. For for this topic, if you have a man who has a good income (NOT typical salaryman, but say a small business owner or a doctor), don't mind her past, can easily convince an AV idol to marry him and become a quiet (but easy living) house wife. A minor plastic surgery or two can easily disguise her porn history for the purpose of a stay-at-home housewife/mom.

Wow 45 millions yen a year is an impressive number. I'd like to be an av actress a year, then I would use those money to invest other businesses.
Not a bad choice for those amateur girls who dont mind being filmed. Actually, would you reliaze her when you see her on street? Even so, what would you do then? They will go back to their normal life, things just get forgotten afterwards :D.
But wait, are all Yuria Satomi's boyfriends rich businessmen? Oh she's such a high-class call girl. And she keeps filming porn after over 200 millions yen income per year? What did she want? Does she want to be richer than her boyfriends? Or is she planing to be a billionaire:D? Yui Hatano is much more popular, let's imagine the money she could make:rolleyes:.
There is so many ways for a hot girl: being a beautiful girl living normally with your family or a rich porn actress:) I prefer the first one, because there's still chance for us to marry a pretty girl:D
The numbers in that article just don't compute. Anyway it wasn't 45 mil per year even if you believe it. It's 45 mil yens career income (7 yrs). Which seems too high even for a top idol.

No matter what, the report implied various things that's supposed to reflect typical industry standard but they just don't make any sense. 200 million yens income from 4 boyfriends? That's not totally crazy, if you understand it as a mistress situation. Wealthy men are known to throw money at mistresses, but that has nothing to do with AV industry or even high end call girls. Yuria Satomi's case is a classic case of highly successful gold digging, it's not even in the same bracket as high end call girls. That's why authorities can't get at her for prostitution (which is illegal in Japan) but only by tax violation.

Judging by other reports from that website, it seems typical AV idols don't at all enjoy a life of endless luxury and filthy (rich) boyfriend. Even a super hot idol, Yua Mikami, only brag about a 2-bedroom apartment, not much more. An apartment is pretty awesome for a 20-something salaryman, but it's far far, far below the standard for rich. And I'm even pretty sure she didn't just plunk down the cash and paid it off. I guess she made enough with her under-10 films for a 20% down payment and has a 60 years mortgage ahead of her.

What's really revealing is that Yua's income as a mid-level SKE idol was just about same as a salaryman. Not sure if everyone understand that Japanese concept of salaryman: it's better than flipping hamburgers (McJob) but for a young male, the income is not enough to attract a decent woman to marry you and raise a family.
 

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I'm very suspicious of most of the numbers in that report. We've discussed AV idol income many times, the consensus seems to be 1 million yens per film is about the top line pay, not at all the typical pay. Not even the top idol can expect to keep getting those offers for a long time (6 months?). E.g. the uncensored debut of a top AV idol can get that much for one (plus maybe a second "debut") uncensored title.

Typical AV idol probably makes more than a salaryman, but unlikely she can save so much money in a typical career (3-5 years) to not need to work for the rest of her life. For for this topic, if you have a man who has a good income (NOT typical salaryman, but say a small business owner or a doctor), don't mind her past, can easily convince an AV idol to marry him and become a quiet (but easy living) house wife. A minor plastic surgery or two can easily disguise her porn history for the purpose of a stay-at-home housewife/mom.


The numbers in that article just don't compute. Anyway it wasn't 45 mil per year even if you believe it. It's 45 mil yens career income (7 yrs). Which seems too high even for a top idol.

No matter what, the report implied various things that's supposed to reflect typical industry standard but they just don't make any sense. 200 million yens income from 4 boyfriends? That's not totally crazy, if you understand it as a mistress situation. Wealthy men are known to throw money at mistresses, but that has nothing to do with AV industry or even high end call girls. Yuria Satomi's case is a classic case of highly successful gold digging, it's not even in the same bracket as high end call girls. That's why authorities can't get at her for prostitution (which is illegal in Japan) but only by tax violation.

Judging by other reports from that website, it seems typical AV idols don't at all enjoy a life of endless luxury and filthy (rich) boyfriend. Even a super hot idol, Yua Mikami, only brag about a 2-bedroom apartment, not much more. An apartment is pretty awesome for a 20-something salaryman, but it's far far, far below the standard for rich. And I'm even pretty sure she didn't just plunk down the cash and paid it off. I guess she made enough with her under-10 films for a 20% down payment and has a 60 years mortgage ahead of her.

What's really revealing is that Yua's income as a mid-level SKE idol was just about same as a salaryman. Not sure if everyone understand that Japanese concept of salaryman: it's better than flipping hamburgers (McJob) but for a young male, the income is not enough to attract a decent woman to marry you and raise a family.
Av idols film at least one film a month(usually done in 2-3 days depends of the number of scenes) and it's better than working like a 9am-6pm salaryman(5-6 days a week). Besides selling their bodies offscreen, top av idols make a decent amount from events and filming offers outside of Japan(mainly Taiwan & Macau).
 

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Don't trust numbers posted in articles--especially those sky-high bonuses studios report when they snag a C-list celeb. These are private companies. They can say whatever they want.

I'm sure a busy and popular actress like Yui Hatano would be making (very) low 7-figures USD a year and any actress who regularly stars in titles (1-2 a month) should be putting in very very low 6-figures USD a year. Saving and wisely investing the money's another story. :)