Why Japanese wear skirts but Americans almost don't?

[wirama]

In America it is work or starve for most people, (and work ain't easy to come by right now, 10% unemployement rate if your lucky in most areas). But yeah, jeans or slacks are more suited to equal oppurtunity jobs, they are utilitarian wear and skirts aren't. Still, there are jobs in the USA that still require skirts, just not that many.



Do you have a lot of Japanese woman dockworkers, forklift drivers, construction workers? I bet female Japanese chefs would not be caught dead in a skirt while they are working. There was a lot of crap that came with womens lib but it sure helped guarantee equal oppurtunities for women in work places that were denied them before. Pants are just more practical in most cases. ( I cant see a girl driving a front-end loader in a skirt)



Have you actually seen any JAV? short on good size tits many of those girls are not. Besides skirts have nothing to do with a girl being able to show off her boobs and looking at boobs is a male pastime no matter where you are from. ("Eyes up here please" must be commonly said in every language).



Trust me, women have an idea of what is attractive, it is part of who they are. Women develop this unbelievable peripheal vision so they can see if guys are looking at them without anyone noticing. Plenty of American women wear skirts, (and dresses), but they do it when they want someone to notice their legs. Doesn't anyone here actually go to clubs? (I dont much anymore myself, too old for most of them). Has anyone ever heard of cheerleaders? not many pants on those gals. There is a huge diversity of womenwear in America and the women themselves are very diverse in all forms. So you arent going to see a lot of school girls in skirts unless it is a catholic or maybe a private school that requires them as part of the school uniform, (and there are thousands of schools in America that do). According to Census 2000, 281.4 million people were counted in the United States - 143.4 million of whom were female, (more than twice the amount of Japanese females and more than the entire population of Japan as of 2010). Making any general statement about that many people is just not a winning choice.

So why do Japanese women wear skirts? There are many good answers to that already in this thread...pick one.

...and again, another good answer from this guy here! you should read Ceewan's

 

[wudjamahuh]

Americans are workaholics and jeans fit into the religion of modern work better than skirts do.

PLEASE. Americans aren't workaholics. For the most part, they're lazy bastards who will work the least they possibly can and punch out the second their shift is over. That's a huge part of the root of the American economy's problems. In Asia we work sixty hour weeks just to keep up with co-workers so our superiors don't think we're lazy. And forget about overtime pay.. :notagain:

The girls are sexier here because they take more pride in their appearance. Men do, too.

 

[Ceewan]

That's a huge part of the root of the American economy's problems.

Actually I think that the root of Americas' economy problem is greed. I really dont undersand how laziness could be contributed to it whatsoever. America, although the third top exporter in the world, (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_exp-economy-exports), is still having trouble competing in todays global market. This is primarily due to political infighting, the cost to produce and sell goods in America, legalization of credit company loan sharking, the insurance industry having their hands in everyones pockets and the current American business philosophies. Just my opinion of course.

 

[wudjamahuh]

Actually I think that the root of Americas' economy problem is greed. I really dont undersand how laziness could be contributed to it whatsoever. America, although the third top exporter in the world, (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_exp-economy-exports), is still having trouble competing in todays global market. This is primarily due to political infighting, the cost to produce and sell goods in America, legalization of credit company loan sharking, the insurance industry having their hands in everyones pockets and the current American business philosophies. Just my opinion of course.

The attitude of many workers plays into the inflated cost of producing and selling goods. Take labor unions, for example. Unskilled workers banding together to hold their employer hostage in order to get what they feel is a fair compensation package, even when the business itself is barely solvent and there is no profit to be shared. Workers' rights and whatnot. The feeling that your company is always ripping you off and making money off of your hard work, therefore entitling you to do a half-assed job and not give a hoot about the future of the business itself, as long as it doesn't directly affect you keeping your job.

I fully agree that there are many reasons for the troubles in the US. Certainly, big business and the wealthy class have had far too much power over policy making in recent decades, and this has led to the government taking measures to facilitate business actions which by all measures of common sense should be illegal, such as the 19% credit card interest rates you mentioned.

The attitude of average Americans is one factor at play which no American would want to consider, as that would involve laying a portion of blame at your own feet. The work culture in Asia - not just in Japan, but certainly also Korea, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. - is far different. You do whatever it takes to succeed at work, or you get left behind. You stay in the office until your work is finished. It's common sense here. Personally, I only see my son in the morning from Monday to Friday. He's always sleeping when I get home. It takes some getting used to, but as shown by the last fifty years in incredible growth in the countries I just listed, it works.

 

[Ceewan]

The attitude of many workers plays into the inflated cost of producing and selling goods. Take labor unions, for example. Unskilled workers banding together to hold their employer hostage in order to get what they feel is a fair compensation package, even when the business itself is barely solvent and there is no profit to be shared. Workers' rights and whatnot. The feeling that your company is always ripping you off and making money off of your hard work, therefore entitling you to do a half-assed job and not give a hoot about the future of the business itself, as long as it doesn't directly affect you keeping your job.

I fully agree that there are many reasons for the troubles in the US. Certainly, big business and the wealthy class have had far too much power over policy making in recent decades, and this has led to the government taking measures to facilitate business actions which by all measures of common sense should be illegal, such as the 19% credit card interest rates you mentioned.

The attitude of average Americans is one factor at play which no American would want to consider, as that would involve laying a portion of blame at your own feet. The work culture in Asia - not just in Japan, but certainly also Korea, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. - is far different. You do whatever it takes to succeed at work, or you get left behind. You stay in the office until your work is finished. It's common sense here. Personally, I only see my son in the morning from Monday to Friday. He's always sleeping when I get home. It takes some getting used to, but as shown by the last fifty years in incredible growth in the countries I just listed, it works.

Okay, I will play, seeing as that was a fairly intelligently worded response.

Although the need for them has mostly passed in America, (thanks to legislation), your understanding of the benefits and the need for the existence of labor unions is based on what? Certainly not history or any facts whatsoever. Try a quick read on the subject to become more acquainted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_unions

If you dont think big business has a say in politics in Asia, including China, then you are sadly misinformed.

The current nationwide unemployment rate in America is 9.1%. The attitude of about 10% of the working class is "I want to go to work" and the attitude of the other 90% is "I am glad I have a job". People are pinching their pennys and doing without, which does not have a positve effect on the local economy. Prices are going up and pay scale is going down. Many people hold part time jobs because full time employment is not just unavailable but it is cheaper for businesses to hire two part time employees instead of one full time employee. If you dont think businesses dont take advantage of whatever resources they can to make a profit, and that includes people, then you don't have an understanding of history or are just ignoring facts.

As far as your job making you a part time father, that is regrettable, but that is your choice to make. You are sacrificing something you will never have a chance to do again. I dont call that common sense. I have been there and done that and I was wrong. I worked 60 hour weeks and not behind some desk either. A job should be a part of your life, not your life. Your family is your life. Your kids are your life. Somethings are too important to sacrifice. If thinking like that is "what is wrong with America", then God bless us.

And that is all I have left to say about that.

 

[guy]

^ But America today is vastly different than the America half a century ago. Big businesses exported hard labor because it was cheaper to set up factories overseas to increase profit margins. We enjoyed a substantial surge in standard of living compared to most of the rest of the world. Suburban sprawl facilitated the spread of ubiquitous shopping malls. Slowly but undeniably, our labor expertise shifted from manufacturing (of physical commodities) to services (working cash registers and waiting tables). Comparatively fewer parents now make their kids mow the lawn on weekends. An entire generation (and more) knows very little of how to produce something from nothing with their own hands. Labor unions no doubt exist to try to protect those fighting against the current, but it doesn't solve the fundamental problem of the floodgates having been broken.

When you say that "America is still the third top exporter in the world", you really out to say how it's appalling that America is only the third top exporter in the world, yet continues to demand a first class standard of living. It's not to say the people are to blame; a lot of it happened because of the way big business changed the rules [and therein the rationale behind OWS and recent occupations]. But even though we weren't the ones that caused the change, we still allowed it to happen. Perhaps some of us didn't notice it happening, or perhaps some people happily went along with it due to the increased standard of living. But no matter how you cut it, American work ethic just isn't what it used to be pre-baby-boomer era. Most Americans don't wear jeans because it suits their work style, but to be fashionable.

The only real reason America continues to stay at the top of the heap is because the ace up its sleeve: the exporting of foreign policy [by means of army bases on foreign soil, diplomatic intervention, and war -- which happens to often be supported by big business]. But many countries are now taking notice of this pseudo-imperialism. The ace in the sleeve may end up being America's tell. Without a strong safety-net of manufactiring-based labor to fall back on [or heavy investments in education, research, alternative energy, and so on], America may very well lose its top-dog status to the likes of other ravenous regions, most notably China, India, and Western Europe.

Although being a part-time father is lamentable, I wouldn't dare go so far as to say it indicates poor priorities. Many parents put in the extra hours because they love their children. It is important to be a team player to help the company stay competitive, because if the company folds, they will lose their job and would have no way of putting food on the table. They're fighting to give their children better economic security, at a time when the global economy is in such turmoil. And at least here in Japan, such situations require kids to help with housework (cooking, cleaning, laundry) to keep the family functional -- giving them opportunities to learn how to work together to survive.

Mentalities on work ethic and familial obligations differ from culture to culture, and there is simply no saying that any one mentality is correct while others are wrong. However, as I see it, if the world suffers a substantial economic collapse, families that have had to fight to survive are better prepared to rebuild their lives using their own hands, than families who have enjoyed having services made available to them. When your labor union collapses, when government aide programs dry up, and when neighbors stop being charitable, you have only yourself to depend on. Just look at the responsiveness of Japanese laborers post March 11th earthquake and the rebuilding of the Tohoku area, compared to the responsiveness of almost anyone in the 2005 Katrina disaster.

Also, I don't much care for the way American women wear skirts. Give me a tasteful zettai-ryoiki any day instead.

 

[purplefinch]

I agree people all around modern countries don't wear skirts and dresses that much. Really shame, I go try to buy skirt and dresses but either they are a terrible style or ugly colours, or too party like, or too revealing. It's difficult... but that's why there's always the internet. But it's true many women do like the comfort of jeans instead (but to me, skirts and dresses are more comfortable because it's more free flowing.)
Oh well, fashion goes in and out.

 

[AnitaYeh]

This is so serious, talk of economy etc.
I think it's much simpler, skirts are to show legs. Fat ppl look bad in skirts. Jeans are good for reigning bulge in.

In USA something like 55% population are obese. Is it surprising not many wear skirts?

 

[ADRIANOPANO]

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[josolopSon3]

PLEASE. Americans aren't workaholics. For the most part, they're lazy bastards who will work the least they possibly can and punch out the second their shift is over. That's a huge part of the root of the American economy's problems. In Asia we work sixty hour weeks just to keep up with co-workers so our superiors don't think we're lazy. And forget about overtime pay.. :notagain:

The girls are sexier here because they take more pride in their appearance. Men do, too.

Yeah you work so much that you don't get time to spend with your girl..So then the girls want to divorce. or are Chatting in chat rooms like in skype with all kind of foreing guys because they're all lonely.

Plus even many Japan girls are starting to go out with girls to love hotels cause men are too busy working and don't have time to do anything with the girls.

I've been chatting with tons of japanese girls online and they always tell me how their husbands/etc never do anything with them.