why akiba-online doesn't use https?

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BudEWiser

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A real (not self generated) certificate requires money...
A self-signed cert is somewhat safe, but forgery is easy
Many people would click okay anyway if presented with a warning that the certificate had changed
Many hosts charge extra for supporting SSL.
Not sure what is used here, or what, but it's not always as easy as just pushing a button to enable it.
 

CoolKevin

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I have no idea what you are talking about

but we are looking into it, at least I have passed the info on
 

BudEWiser

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I was just listing possible reasons that there was no SSL support.
I've hosted, of course shared hosting, several small sites, and it was a pain to get a signed certificate so users wouldn't be threatened with bad things happening if they clicked ok for a self generated certificate. And the host always wanted more money for SSL (https) than a hosting package that doesn't include it.
I don't know what akiba-online runs on or anything, so it was more of a list of why someone may choose to not run their site in https.
 

popeye363

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Mar 14, 2013
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I did performance testing for a very large bank's branch network. Our auditors thought every page should be served through SSL. We saw a performance penalty for SSL that ranged from 5% to (rarely) 30%. This would have meant our buying additional servers with no perceived benefit, except of course avoiding a risk. At a bank, risk avoidance can be cost-justified: one breach can easily cost millions of whatever currency you like. In a setting like this, however, the benefit is not as obvious.

SSL is also a PITA to administer, for the various IT parties involved.

I, too, would like SSL, especially given the disclosures about NSA's capabilities. However, I can accept the current situation, especially given NSA's capabilities (penetrating SSL).

I'd be interested to hear the board administrators' response to the question, from a professional perspective as someone who's dealt a bit with SSL.
 
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