New AV Law

[Inertia]

I will eat a metaphorical shoe if articles (?) 17-19 are carried out in any meaningful, noticeable way across the entire country (let alone Tokyo). My belief at the moment is this law will cause some short term issues with mainstream JAV, but will be nearly forgotten by the powers that be within a year or two.

 

[hoochimama]

This also sounds a lot like some of the crap VISA/mastercard (US gov) is pulling on onlyfans, clips4sale and the like, demanding that the performer ID/consent forms for any given video have to be kept up to date, as in all the performers of a given scene would have to send the studio their updated IDs (in many USA states that would be yearly) otherwise the scene would have to be removed from sale.

The Gospel According to MasterCard

In 2006, FBI agents suddenly began appearing at the doors of adult businesses across the country.

www.melrosemichaels.com

It's the same old anti-porn agenda, masquerading as feminism / "won't someone think of the children women?"

 

[Electromog]

What is the Nanpa incident?

Nanpa is what they call the "pick up" movies mentioned, where they pick up a woman on the street and have sex with them. I always assumed they werewscripted and the so called random woman was an actress they already hired before.

 

[branbran726]

Nanpa is what they call the "pick up" movies mentioned, where they pick up a woman on the street and have sex with them. I always assumed they werewscripted and the so called random woman was an actress they already hired before.

They are almost certainly scripted, but with the new law they can no longer even pretend to be unscripted.

They will be exactly as real as time-stop JAV. (Which are of course 99% legit.)

 

[djlandd01]

Nanpa is what they call the "pick up" movies mentioned, where they pick up a woman on the street and have sex with them. I always assumed they werewscripted and the so called random woman was an actress they already hired before.

oh , my bad. I misread as nanpa incident and nothing showed in google, only nanpa term was mentioned. Thanks for the explanation. Also why do you mentione "assume"? I have seen these ones, thy all seem scripted.....are they all not?

 

[djlandd01]

They are almost certainly scripted, but with the new law they can no longer even pretend to be unscripted.

They will be exactly as real as time-stop JAV. (Which are of course 99% legit.)

ohh, wasnt a big fan but I did enjoy a few. I am happy till the time stop and drama JAVS are still in the making hehe

 

[Electromog]

oh , my bad. I misread as nanpa incident and nothing showed in google, only nanpa term was mentioned. Thanks for the explanation. Also why do you mentione "assume"? I have seen these ones, thy all seem scripted.....are they all not?

I use assume because I am not sure. Most things in JAV are fake, so it's logical to think the nanpa scenes are fake too, but I'm not Japanese so it's hard for me to judge whether you actually could film real nanpa and get some girl to sleep with you. The theme seems to be a lot more common in JAV than in western porn, so maybe that means it's less far fetched this could work?

 

[intrepid8]

I've seen more than a few lesbian nanpa titles (eg. Peters or V) feature "amateur" girls being picked up that either went on to do more AV or were even already established.

I'm sure the majority of them are curious debutants but I'm pretty confident it's 100% pre-arranged. Nanpa titles function as a casting couch when you think about it.

 

[fletcheree]

Based on this thread amateur participation may have been arranged less than one month prior to production, even in recent times. I think it's safe to say that sort of thing is completely dead now. Even with longer cool down periods, the fact that any participant can kill the production pretty much at any point in the future should make them unfeasible.

I wonder if FC2 (which is where I suspect a large portion of actually shady stuff is happening) will be affected.
Apparently they're based in the Netherlands and are already selling uncensored material to the Japanese market which makes is doubtful that they would adhere to Japanese laws.

 

[djlandd01]

I use assume because I am not sure. Most things in JAV are fake, so it's logical to think the nanpa scenes are fake too, but I'm not Japanese so it's hard for me to judge whether you actually could film real nanpa and get some girl to sleep with you. The theme seems to be a lot more common in JAV than in western porn, so maybe that means it's less far fetched this could work?

IDK, I feel and always have felt they are scripted, there are a lot of those kinds in European porns. there used to be true nanpa porns from US productions in early 2000s, but somewhere in between laws came in how the participants had to be fully tested to perform in movies and that's how the real nanpa making phase ended there. But I do find some US produced here and there but totally noob productions. Lots in Euro porn though as well JAV. For me thought feels totally scripted.

 

[branbran726]

The analogy floating around J-Twitter, apparently a quote from an actor to an actress, is,
"It's like there was a problem in amateur baseball, so they move to regulate the Major League and the amateurs are just ignored."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535146312769105920

(More from this upstanding individual here, here, and here.)

 

[branbran726]

Amatsuka Moe: The New AV Law has been passed after all.

Going forward, I think illegal AV will become even more widespread. Is it really "progress" if becomes reality that the people who are serious about doing what they do are the stupid ones? Even before the details come out, I've got nothing but anxiety.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1536691664462708736

 

[Taako]

This also sounds a lot like some of the crap VISA/mastercard (US gov) is pulling on onlyfans, clips4sale and the like, demanding that the performer ID/consent forms for any given video have to be kept up to date, as in all the performers of a given scene would have to send the studio their updated IDs (in many USA states that would be yearly) otherwise the scene would have to be removed from sale.

The Gospel According to MasterCard

In 2006, FBI agents suddenly began appearing at the doors of adult businesses across the country.

www.melrosemichaels.com

It's the same old anti-porn agenda, masquerading as feminism / "won't someone think of the children women?"

Actually, I see it as Credit card taking an more active role that probably should had happen many years ago. I mean... some studios/performers bring the misery to themselves and the rest is punish as well.

Hard for me to pity them.

 

[Inertia]

This law will not affect FC2 shooting in any way other than INCREASING the amount of women doing non-mainstream JAV.

 

[hairy_bush]

yea more FC2!!

more underground Idol groups!!

more 18 year olds in fuzoku!!

more papakatsu!!

 

[intrepid8]

more papakatsu!!

Japanese simps are still simps.

 

[hotpotato90]

Damn... does this new law mean that we wont see any new nakadeshi/bukkake series from knights visual anymore and also no more new hardcore bukkake stuff from milky cat/urabukkake? Thats pretty shiiit... :/

 

[djlandd01]

Damn... does this new law mean that we wont see any new nakadeshi/bukkake series from knights visual anymore and also no more new hardcore bukkake stuff from milky cat/urabukkake? Thats pretty shiiit... :/

wait why problem for KV?, I like KV stuff.......

 

[intrepid8]

I don't think it ultimately affects anything in the mainstream studios other than adding a few extra checks and delays. It seems like this is mostly designed to enable prosecution of amateur pornographers and unprofessional minor studios that are taking advantage of the vulnerable and that's great news.

The main thing it will affect for the mainstream titles is longterm availability. Another reason I have no interest in purchasing streaming or digital download items with DRM. I want permanent access on my own terms not to be at the whims of the provider's interest in hosting it.

 

[hotpotato90]

wait why problem for KV?, I like KV stuff.......

Because i thought kv is also a kind of non professional studio so that would affect them too... or am i wrong with that point of view?