Motherload of Marvelous Mommies [DVDES-432]

[jugulear]

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Two of my favorite movies are:

Mother and Daughter AV Audition [DVDES-396] and its sequel, [DVDES-432].

I prepared a post explaining their virtues, also offering easy download links that are still working.

(Two reasons for their appeal: women join in the group of conspirators, which makes a violation movie more interesting, Also, the stories walk a fine line where you can almost believe the gullibility of the mothers and daughters, apparently desperate to hit the big time and willing to suffer any indignity... versus outright r***, which would put a less attractive dimension to matters.)

There are no cast listings in the regular channels, which we can expect for this kind of "group" movie. We're lucky Sougouwiki is around; they have apparently identified all of the actresses of the first one. (Albeit some have nondescript first names only.)

It's the second one I'm hoping you can help me with.

Sougouwiki has nailed two: Shiho Miyazaki and Satomi Kanazawa. They both play daughters (I believe Daughter #1 and Daughter #2, but I can't tell which is which, without putting in more research time).

Just for laughs, in case you start digging deep, and would enjoy pinning down the two daughters:

Shiho Miyazaki (IESP-273) and Satomi Kanazawa (TMEM-011)



What I'm interested in are the mothers; I hope you will lend a hand, if you recognize any or all.


Mommy Number One:

Mommy Number Two:

Mommy Number Three:

She is a favorite, so sweet and helpless.

EDIT (12-2016):
I just watched UGUG-103 and the first actress, Shizuka Ashiya, looked very familiar... I think it's Mommy #3!


Mommy Number Four:

I like her very much too, she starts out as being so elegant.

Some screen shots that may prove additionally helpful, as well as another set.


Thank you very much.




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[jugulear]

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The time has come to give this one another eye, o ye gods of JAV. Can it be that all four are so obscure?

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[jugulear]

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So you can see I have not given up on this one, no I have not. Please be impressed with me, for I am not a quitter!

I am also not a designated hitter, nor am I a pipe fitter. I am also not a babysitter. These are only some of the other things I am not. Yet what I could be is bitter... very bitter... so save me. Please! Please save me from the fate of wallowing in pathetic discontentment and acrimony!


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[outdoorlife]

Hello jugs. Hehe. jugs (. )( .)
Though I haven't downloaded or watched this video, I was able to read the back portion of the jacket.
The names are identified as:
1) Endoh Michiko (遠藤美智子) age35
2) Kanazawa Sachiko (金沢幸子) age37 　
3) Kawai Chihiro (河井千尋) age33
4) Sahara Maki (佐原真樹) age32

However, thanks to your linked screenshot, I noticed that the names of the actresses are identified at the beginning of each segment. Hence, the second lady "Sachiko" is Kanazawa Sachiko (or Kanezawa Sachiko?) (Japanese = 金沢幸子) is shown in the screenshot. If you have the video you could perhaps take a screenshot of the beginning of each segment for identification.
I searched for Kanazawa Sachiko but it was a dead end, leading me to think that they are amateurs (at least at that time). Good luck!

 

[jugulear]

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Wait a … wait a … WAITAMINNIT!

What are you telling us, Outdoorlife?? You can actually read … Japanese? Holy Mother of Garfunkel..! (And let’s throw in the mother of Simon, too.)

I am so impressed…

(Aside from being able to read Japanese, if you also happen to be Japanese, it makes sense as to why you prefer to provide names the “Japanese way,” that is, with the last name first.)

I listened to your instructions and am posting the screen shots from the beginning of each segment:

Scene 1:

Scene 2:

Scene 3:

Scene 4:

Even if these don’t allow for you to come up with new leads, at least you can confirm whether your I.D.s were correct. Only reason for doubt is that what you used, the back cover, had what seemed to me as illegible writing; to wit:

This way you can corroborate the accuracy of the names, if you don’t mind.

(Appears you may have had the names of Numbers Three and Four switched.)

(As a public service, maybe you can do a quick deciphering of the daughters, too! In case others are curious about those actresses, now or in the future...)

I threw the Japanese names into DMM (for those not aware, the very last category of DMM’s dropdown menu, the one that begins with “AV,” allows for searches by actresses… as I once pointed to here. Strange, when I did so now, the searches led to pages in … English!), and none of the four names produced results.

The DMM English pages offered “Yukiko Kanazawa” for # 2) Kanazawa Sachiko, and "Shinki Sahara" for # 4) Sahara Maki.

I also conducted searches for the names in English. Chihiro Kawai turned out to be a younger and different actress, as one may see from this page and this one. The rest were busts as well, save for the first, Michiko Endoh; I’m not certain this is the same lady, but there is a resemblance with the facial structure… credit is for 2005’s SRD-060:

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http://www.jav28.com/en/movie/SRD-060
http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=1srd060/

The odds are these actresses did not have prolific careers, but I would have loved to see Numbers Three and Four in other works… what a pity DVDES-432 probably turns out to be the only game they had going.

This was an incredibly tough one, and Outdoorlife… trumpets should blare for your ingenious detective work (and… ability to decipher Japanese!); congratulations for being phenomenal.

(Just don't draw any more pictures of my breasts, okay? It's embarrassing...)



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[jugulear]

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The fantastic Outdoorlife (who has gone outside and has not come back; I miss him) broke amazing ground on this one; alas, he did not return to corroborate his findings, after suggesting I post clearer views of the names.

I really love especially the third and fourth actresses; can anyone get a better bead on who they are, and whether they have been in anything else?

I believe the names for #3 & #4 from his list have been switched; so the ladies in question are:

3) Maki Sahara (佐原真樹) age32
4) Chihiro Kawai (河井千尋) age33

If you are feeling generous, and if you can decipher Japanese, "as a public service," perhaps you can point to the daughters' names as well.


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[jugulear]

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I very much like especially actresses #3 and #4, and I was hoping to get further corroboration on Outdoorlife's I.D.'s.

He made his I.D.'s based on the nearly-illegible writing on the back cover, and asked for frame grabs from within the movie for confirmation. You can see I complied, but unfortunately Outdoorlife did not return to clarify.

I realize it's hard to find those who can read Japanese in order to confirm, and pattern recognition is another skill that is difficult to come by.

Even if you lack these abilities or are disinclined to check the provided translations, maybe you can speculate on this: is it possible the provided names were the names of the characters, and not the names of the actresses? I just find it hard to believe there is no reference for any of the mothers, so perhaps the provided names were intended to be character names.

One way to know for certain would be to translate the names of the daughters; Sougouwiki has credited two as 宮咲志帆／金沢里美.

The first one (Shiho Miyazaki) ... except for top part of the third character, looks different: 宮咲志帆


The second one (Satomi Kanazawa) matches with the above's frame-grabbed credit: 金沢里美

(It kind of matches anyway; notice the third character has been switched with the fourth character.)


I guess we can conclude the names of the mothers represent the names of the actresses, and not the characters... I'd appreciate your confirming whether the names have been depicted correctly. (It's not always cut-and-dried, as we may see from the Japanese for Shiho Miyazaki. Why is her name different?)


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[fruxano]

I think that those names don't match with the wiki because they are just made up names for this movie, as I doubt they are actual mother-daughter pairs.
If you want to find other works by same actresses, your best bet is to look at DMM or the maker's site and see if they have credits listed. Unfortunately in this case, neither site has any extra info.

As for the names:

#1: Mother: Endō Michiko / daughter: Endō Mirai

#2: M: Kanezawa (or Kanazawa) Sachiko / D: Kanezawa Misato (they probably made up this name by flipping around the 2 characters of her usual stage name)

#3: M: Sahara Maki / D: Sahara Nana

#4: M: Kawai Chihiro / D: Kawai Ayana

So the previous poster was entirely correct.
And if you want to learn how to fish for yourself to find other works, start with DMM by inputting the video code (dvdes-432 = dvdes00432) and look for the names after 出演者.
If you have a name like above but don't know how to write it, you can use the IME handwriting feature built into windows to draw the characters with your mouse.

Alternatively, use an online dictionary like jisho.org or wwwjdic and set them to search for names if you know the romaji. Or with most of the methods you can also choose to search kanji by radicals and find them that way.
That way might take some puzzling to get it, but you don't seem to be lacking in motivation anyhow.
Once you have the name you can search in DMM or in google or wherever you want and see what results you get.

In this case it seems to be a dead end, unless you can find some JAV guru that recognizes them by appearance.
It's likely that some are just one & dones though.

 

[jugulear]

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Fruxano, thank you so much!

Of course they are not real mother-daughter pairs... the fact that you translated the daughters' names was critical, because we can now see both mom and daughter have the same last names.

Which means the I.D.'s are worthless. These are the names of the characters after all, and not the actresses.

Back to the old drawing board!

(All of this time, I had thought the names of the actresses had been pinned. Not by a long shot.)

Probably the only way we will learn who these ladies are, as you've pointed out, is if we "can find some JAV guru that recognizes them by appearance."

Fruxano, you also provided some great eye-opening tips. "If you want to learn how to fish for yourself to find other works, start with DMM by inputting the video code (dvdes-432 = dvdes00432) and look for the names after 出演者." That was JAV 101, but of course I could not expect you to know the stage of JAV development I've managed to whimper my way through. Your next tip was fantastic, however; I was not aware of the possibility of handwriting Japanese with the mouse. I'll need to look into it more carefully, but a quick look from this site (for Win XP) tells me one would need Microsoft Office, and this site (Win 7, what I have) makes me suspect I might perhaps need the original Windows discs. (Which computer manufacturers do not provide.) At the least, the idea is invaluable.

You've performed a beautiful service, thank you.

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[fruxano]

You shouldn't need the discs, that was way back with WinXP, hehe.
MS Office shouldn't have anything to do with it either, you just need to install support for eastern languages as explained in the link.

 

[jugulear]

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Anyone who wishes to try this marvelous suggestion... well, I would need to further research, but I guess the link referred to was from the second link I had pointed to above for Win 7... where we may read:

You need to do two things: get the language pack, and then add the input language that you want to use.

Refer this link for more information:
Download a language pack to get handwriting recognition for another language

Yet that link leads to a page that has nothing to do with the topic.

This other link may be helpful; it leads to another page where different language packs are offered. Then all that remains, as we may read above, would be to "add the input language that you want to use" ... if you can figure out how to do that, I suppose you'd be in business.

(From what I've peeked at, I'm not yet sure if all versions of Win 7 would cooperate... I've been reading about the kind that's "Ultimate" or "Professional," and most of us probably have the basic one. As said, some more research is called for, here.)


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[tonyvee]

Well Jugulear very interesting/ I wish I could get a good download of those two mother daughter videos/ Your Userporn link does everything but play and they're are no removal messages/ I did get some incomplete downloads somewhere though/ If they're anywhere as good as dandy043 - Hold a Parent Child Swimsuit Audition or dandy069 - Hold a Parent Child Pageant I'd be extremely happy