Legality of U15 films outside Japan

[jaystak]

Does anyone know if the U15 Idol films produced in Japan are also legal outside Japan?

I was told recently that eventhough there is no full nudity or sex acts, it could still be considered to be child porn under some country's legal systems. If you were caught with this on your computer, the child porn laws would apply. I don't know much about legal systems, and I'd rather not say which country I'm in, but it is a European country. Could these films really be classed as child porn??

 

[shinigamie]

You would pretty much get annihilated outside of japan with those kind of DVD's.

 

[jaystak]

You would pretty much get annihilated outside of japan with those kind of DVD's.

What you're saying is that some of the material on this site is illegal.

 

[shinigamie]

No, are you dumb?

Was this a bait thread from the start?

 

[Ceewan]

What you're saying is that some of the material on this site is illegal.

All the U15/VI/JAV/misc. material on this site is legally purchased by others and then shared here. Whether the material you download is legal in your country or not is your responsibility and not Akiba-Onlines'. Porn, even censored porn like JAV, is also illegal in some countries. Take some personal responsibility and become aware of the laws in your own country. In addition, the laws in your country do not define the laws of this site, nor should they.

 

[jaystak]

All the U15/VI/JAV/misc. material on this site is legally purchased by others and then shared here. Whether the material you download is legal in your country or not is your responsibility and not Akiba-Onlines'. Porn, even censored porn like JAV, is also illegal in some countries. Take some personal responsibility and become aware of the laws in your own country. In addition, the laws in your country do not define the laws of this site, nor should they.

Of course that makes sense. I wasn't implying that there is illegal material on this site. I was trying to clarify the position of the previous poster, whose post I found unhelpful.

I have tried to research the legality of U15 idol movies in my country but my point is that I lack the legal understanding to do so. The specific article of legislation which applies
to child pornography in my country doesn't mention specific genres of course, and I cannot discern whether the law would consider it to be child porn. I was hoping that somebody on the forum
with a better understanding of law would be able to clarify this for me with relation to European countries (which generally have very similar laws relating to pornography).

In other words, without first consulting a lawyer I don't know if I can download the movies in my country. But perhaps someone out there has already done some research on this issue
as it applies to European countries?

 

[shinigamie]

Look, you arent comprehending this at all.

Im making it easy for you.

Do you live in Japan? No?

Then anything thats junior idol will get u jail time.

Its simple, different laws. Thats it.

It will be illegal for you to own it anywhere* else.

But thats the least of your worries, u are already on this site.


*some exceptions not including Europe.

 

[jaystak]

But thats the least of your worries, u are already on this site..

Are you saying that merely viewing this website from any country other than Japan is illegal?

 

[shinigamie]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[jaystak]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

It's not my fault you can't clearly state your thoughts in English.

 

[Ceewan]

I actually don't agree with shinigamie. I personally do not think all U15 videos are illegal anywhere else but Japan. The majority of them are no more enticing than home movies. Some of them perhaps dare the boundaries set for them in Japan itself. However none of them are obscene by any definition that I am aware of, (although in England they merely need to be "indecent" whatever the eff that means), and most European countries are pretty much okay with artistic freedoms. However I would be remiss if I did not reiterate: take some personal responsibility here. Either hire a lawyer to consult on the matter discretely or do the research into your countries laws yourself. Do not take someone elses word for something that may or may not risk your personal freedom and livelyhood. Because the risk is all yours and no one elses.

 

[shinigamie]

Im here to tell you not listen to Ceewan about this.

Unless the junior idol is in constant pants and a shirt throughout the whole movie, (which like 99% of junior idol videos arent) if by some chance you get caught with this anywhere* outside of Japan, u will not survive court.

I love my junior idol stuff, but Im just being honest with u. It wont go over easy in court. Not saying u will get like 10 years in jail or something lol but whatever it is they will charge u with, u will only be able to reduce whatever they give u at best.

My advice, if you are so worried about this to the point where u are talking about lawyers and stuff lol you shouldnt dive into this kind of stuff. You have guilt. Guilt and junior idol dont go well.



*Some exceptions not including Europe

 

[jaystak]

You have guilt. Guilt and junior idol dont go well.

This has nothing to do with guilt. I don't have guilt about the movies. I watched them in Japan and I don't consider them to be child porn or anywhere
near any reasonable definition of it. If I knew it was legally safe to watch them here, I would watch them. But Ceewan's advice makes far more sense
than yours.

Are you a lawyer? Doesn't seem like it. You may well be right in saying junior idol stuff is illegal in any country outside Japan, but you're just assuming
that's the case. Judging from your answers so far, it doesn't seem like you have actually read any articles of law on the matter. Has anyone ever been
prosecuted for child porn possession when all they had was junior idol movies?

Just to be clear, you say anyone caught with this stuff would be prosecuted. I challenge you to back up your statement with real evidence other than
"I think that's what would happen".

 

[CodeGeek]

Just to be clear, you say anyone caught with this stuff would be prosecuted. I challenge you to back up your statement with real evidence other than
"I think that's what would happen".

If download any U15 content via links or torrents you will of course be prosecuted. And I guess that applies to most European countries.
I'm a lawyer? No. Do I know child porn related laws? No. But I know the laws about copyright.

I guess the only difference is degree of penalty. That will be different - between copyright infraction and possession of child porn as well as between different states.

 

[jaystak]

If download any U15 content via links or torrents you will of course be prosecuted. And I guess that applies to most European countries.
I'm a lawyer? No. Do I know child porn related laws? No. But I know the laws about copyright.

I guess the only difference is degree of penalty. That will be different - between copyright infraction and possession of child porn as well as between different states.

That's a good point too. But being prosecuted for child porn has much worse implications than being prosecuted for copyright infringement, even if hypothetically the amount of
jail time was the same.

 

[ezepietro]

I'm with ceewan and slightly with codegeek about copyright.
yes, you can get prosecuted for copyright violation, but thats unlikely and all shinigami says it's more like an exaggeration of the truth, imagine if thats true, most member here will be in jail by now.

just in case, don't go to a lawyer with a secret acrobat dvd and ask him if it is legal

 

[jaystak]

just in case, don't go to a lawyer with a secret acrobat dvd and ask him if it is legal

Lol. "hey mr lawyer, take a look at this and tell me if I'm going to prison"

 

[shinigamie]

I'm with ceewan and slightly with codegeek about copyright.
yes, you can get prosecuted for copyright violation, but thats unlikely and all shinigami says it's more like an exaggeration of the truth, imagine if thats true, most member here will be in jail by now.

just in case, don't go to a lawyer with a secret acrobat dvd and ask him if it is legal

Hes not asking about the probability of getting caught u jackass as to your little comment about "imagine if thats true, most member here will be in jail by now." Dont mention anyone unless u fully understand the context of someones post.

OP is asking what will happen " IF YOU GET CAUGHT" not about the probability if some sort of cyber police monster watching us all.

The OP POST

Does anyone know if the U15 Idol films produced in Japan are also legal outside Japan?

I was told recently that eventhough there is no full nudity or sex acts, it could still be considered to be child porn under some country's legal systems. If you were caught with this on your computer, the child porn laws would apply. I don't know much about legal systems, and I'd rather not say which country I'm in, but it is a European country. Could these films really be classed as child porn??

Everything I said is 100% guaranteed. You will not make it out of court without being charged with something.

*Some Exceptions not including Europe.

 

[jaystak]

Everything I said is 100% guaranteed. You will not make it out of court without being charged with something.

Tell us why it is guaranteed. Being charged with copyright infringement is not my concern in this thread. Being charged with possession of child porn is the issue.
So tell us why it is guaranteed. All I'm asking is for you to support your answer with concrete evidence. Otherwise it's simply your own opinion, and not necessarily "guaranteed".

 

[aquamarine]

Just a heads-up... a guy a couple years older than I, who I actually went to school with for several years, was caught with male U15 videos. Went to jail for a year in Canada, is now classified as an offender and is no longer allowed to access a computer for anything other than mandatory work.

Just sayin....