JAV Stars in Non-JAV Roles (You know...the "actual" movies?)

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You mentioned Korean softcore, make me remember years ago I shocked when I seen some famous 90s euro porn star including Anita Rinaldi performed in Korean softcore movies, very unfortunately i don't remember the tittle & never found those vids again :(

Wait... Korean softcore? I didn't know it's a thing?! I know there are sexy comedy, horror etc, but softcore? I never bother to watch Korean sexy films because I assumed they don't have any nudity. When you guys say softcore do you mean "no nudity". For me softcore must show at least nipples and fully naked ass.
 

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Japanese comedy drama 特命係長 只野仁(Mission chief clerk Hitoshi Tadano) New Season
JAVstars appeared in all stories.
Awesome, especially looking forward to Shoko.

Wonder if there will be downloads with subtitles.
 

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Awesome, especially looking forward to Shoko.

Wonder if there will be downloads with subtitles.
She was in last year season along with mikami, kojima, and anri okita guess starring. Yua mikami even appeared in another drama from abematv that felt like jyouou.
 

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Wait... Korean softcore? I didn't know it's a thing?! I know there are sexy comedy, horror etc, but softcore? I never bother to watch Korean sexy films because I assumed they don't have any nudity. When you guys say softcore do you mean "no nudity". For me softcore must show at least nipples and fully naked ass.

There are many Korean softcore in the 90s to early 2000s, plenty full females nudity & most of the girls are pretty

The sex scenes are similar with JAV the difference are no male genitals & all the sex are simulated, thats why its called softcore

And its not Sex is Zero, ecc what I'm talking about is real softcore porn, most of the stories are very similar with what we usually seen in JAV

Ex : husband invite his Boss to have dinner at his house, after they eat they drink, the husband got very drunk the Boss took advantage from this situation to fuck his wife, later the husband find out about it and take revenge by fucking his boss wife & daughter

I still have some of the DVD s but lost many of it :(
 
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There are many Korean softcore in the 90s to early 2000s, plenty full females nudity & most of the girls are pretty

The sex scenes are similar with JAV the difference are no male genitals & all the sex are simulated, thats why its called softcore

And its not Sex is Zero, ecc what I'm talking about is real softcore porn, most of the stories are very similar with what we usually seen in JAV

Ex : husband invite his Boss to have dinner at his house, after they eat they drink, the husband got very drunk the Boss took advantage from this situation to fuck his wife, later the husband find out about it and take revenge by fucking his boss wife & daughter

I still have some of the DVD s but lost many of it :(
Unbelievable ! I have been living under a rock!! Would you suggest some famous titles or performers or search terms?

What about mosaics?

I know what sim sex is and its fine. What exactly is K-softcore ? No cocks, ok but do they shoot (fake) sperm ? On her face or breasts?

But the way you describe it sounds like a very weak version of JAV rather than a strong version of "normal" films. Like Italian and French cinema.
 

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Unbelievable ! I have been living under a rock!! Would you suggest some famous titles or performers or search terms?

What about mosaics?

I know what sim sex is and its fine. What exactly is K-softcore ? No cocks, ok but do they shoot (fake) sperm ? On her face or breasts?

But the way you describe it sounds like a very weak version of JAV rather than a strong version of "normal" films. Like Italian and French cinema.

Don't think too much into it. Sound's very much like early 90s Cat-III Hong Kong movies.

To get an idea what is it like try watching The Lover as below

 
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Korean 'softcore' is essentially boobs and ass and simulated sex. The camera angles will usually hide her vagina and his penis. I watched some weird time travel one that came out earlier this year, Lustful Gisaeng, and they simulated a blowjob where they put a circular blur over where his dick would be and blurred anything relatively close to being around her vagina (whole pubic area). It's an actual blur. You can't discern anything. I don't really know if it's typical or not because I've only watched a handful and I've forgotten all of them except this one because I saw it a few months ago.

There are some beautiful women who take their clothes off but the acting is usually a bit sub-par and the stories aren't great. It's hard to come up with an accurate comparison. Maybe sexploitation style American/European films with a JAV-like blur whenever a dick or a vagina could be shown?
 
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Yeah if it's heavily censored porn I am not at all interested. Porn is porn, I tolerate the mosaic only because there are overwhelming positive qualities of JAV. If it's porn, I will take JAV, uncensored JAV or Western porn, thank you.

Unfortunately I think HK Cat III films that follow this formula died off. It's just too easy to get JAV which is much much much more explicit.

If it's pure nudity, like the Playboy vids from 90s, that's alright too. Those are hot women in sexy, but not sexual poses. Not really worth fapping to (not since I was 19) not even worth sitting down to watch. But nice as background distraction while I do some hobby. It's fine also for warm-up to watching porn/JAV/fapping. But that's not been the case for a while now. My household situation rarely give me opportunity to put on nudity vid for background. Japanese IV sometimes does the same thing but I get annoyed by many recent ones that get rather lewd, e.g. sucking a banana.

Nooooo...

What does interest me are mainstream films with "enhancement" of nudity and implied or simulated sex. It might be a big budget film like Basic Instinct. But it could also be low budget cheap thrill (esp. cheap laughs). A good test is if the film were re-shot with all the nudity covered or obscured (e.g. put bikini or bra/panty on the girl) would the film still be watchable? If yes, then yeah add some sexy and implied sex. I'm all for it.

Another test is if a somewhat open-minded woman (who accept that some tits and ass can help sell a movie), would watch the film and enjoy it. E.g. laugh at the jokes. So for example, "Shimokita Glory Days" (mentioned much much earlier) can pass this test.

The funny thing is... if you take away the nudity, I would not watch it all the way thru (12 eps 30 mins). The comedy isn't that great, and yes it's fun to watch Yuma Asami acts non-sex scenes. But 5 mins of it is enough for the novelty. But if you take away the comedy, well the nudity adds up to less than one minute per episode, so there's absolutely not enough for fapping purpose or even as compared to Playboy/gravue vids. So it's a magic concortion of mediocre comedy + non-fappable nudity that make the whole more fun than the parts.
 
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Don't think too much into it. Sound's very much like early 90s Cat-III Hong Kong movies.

To get an idea what is it like try watching The Lover as below


you are wrong :D

The Lover is erotic movie actually, not a porn

these soft porn are different from most HK Cat III movies, its closer to american softcore, most HK cat III have long storyline, dialogues, ecc while this korean give more sex scenes portion, thats why I prefer to call those kind of movies as soft porn not erotic movies

its obvious their main motivation is to make porn, but hardcore porn is illegal in South Korea, so they made it as simulated sex
 
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you are wrong :D

The Lover is erotic movie actually, not a porn

these soft porn are different from most HK Cat III movies, its closer to american softcore, most HK cat III have long storyline, dialogues, ecc while this korean give more sex scenes portion, thats why I prefer to call those kind of movies as soft porn not erotic movies

its obvious their main motivation is to make porn, but hardcore porn is illegal in South Korea, so they made it as simulated sex

Movies like the lover is like hk cat 3 viva erotica or Taiwan sashimi that can garner awards or some sort recognitions or at least enter film festivals. Some av idols can act better in vcinemas pink movies made aim for their perverted fan base than mainstream actors, but they never gotten the opportunities, so they did porn, which led to no one will take them seriously. Jane march got typecast after the lover and film a few sex scenes with bruce willis and after that she can't find works besides b movies. it's like when no one wants to cast luke skywalker after star wars, but lucky for him he got works as the voice of joker and still collecting royalties fees from Star Wars. The Korean softcore you meant is probably compile of thin plot and all dialogues are about sex like the movies Christine Nguyen stars in America. Movies like the one I can't remember the name got a lot of sex scenes too, but it's not your average softcore. it was about a gay emperor and his servant, but he castrate his servant after he fell in love with the queen.
 

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Unbelievable ! I have been living under a rock!! Would you suggest some famous titles or performers or search terms?

What about mosaics?

I know what sim sex is and its fine. What exactly is K-softcore ? No cocks, ok but do they shoot (fake) sperm ? On her face or breasts?

But the way you describe it sounds like a very weak version of JAV rather than a strong version of "normal" films. Like Italian and French cinema.

sorry I can't help much, most of the text are in korean, I can't read it, from few that I can remember the tittles are Hot Shot and One's Desire

not easy to find because I think those are not mainstream products, you know its more easy to find korean softcore like Frozen Flower, ecc

no mosaik, and mostly no fake cumshot, they only shown faces and body simulating orgasm

its not normal films, we should easily notice its a porn, from how they build the story, ecc

if someone can help me track down those movies would be great, willing to watch again :)
 

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Movies like the lover is like hk cat 3 viva erotica or Taiwan sashimi that can garner awards or some sort recognitions or at least enter film festivals. Some av idols can act better in vcinemas pink movies made aim for their perverted fan base than mainstream actors, but they never gotten the opportunities, so they did porn, which led to no one will take them seriously. Jane march got typecast after the lover and film a few sex scenes with bruce willis and after that she can't find works besides b movies. it's like when no one wants to cast luke skywalker after star wars, but lucky for him he got works as the voice of joker and still collecting royalties fees from Star Wars. The Korean softcore you meant is probably compile of thin plot and all dialogues are about sex like the movies Christine Nguyen stars in America. Movies like the one I can't remember the name got a lot of sex scenes too, but it's not your average softcore. it was about a gay emperor and his servant, but he castrate his servant after he fell in love with the queen.

those softcore definitely are not festival / award material, like I wrote before, its basically just porn with simulated sex acts, and yes those soft porn that I mean is closer to american softcore, short stories not many dialogues, only showing females and males dry humping

so when I get bored with hardcore, but still want to see straight to sex movies, those soft porn are great choice
 

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those softcore definitely are not festival / award material, like I wrote before, its basically just porn with simulated sex acts, and yes those soft porn that I mean is closer to american softcore, short stories not many dialogues, only showing females and males dry humping

so when I get bored with hardcore, but still want to see straight to sex movies, those soft porn are great choice
I'm pretty sure some of those artistic softcore that doesn't feature av idols, but future famous mainstream celebrities did enter film festival and won awards. A lot of cat 3 actors and actresses won awards with their roles. I think shu qi won or at least nominated for playing a fictional version of herself in viva erotica as a cat 3 actress. A lot of people argue lust caution is a cat3 mainstream softcore with the amount of sex scenes. The line between softcore being closer to mainstream or av is kind of loose.
 

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Korean 'softcore' is essentially boobs and ass and simulated sex. The camera angles will usually hide her vagina and his penis. I watched some weird time travel one that came out earlier this year, Lustful Gisaeng, and they simulated a blowjob where they put a circular blur over where his dick would be and blurred anything relatively close to being around her vagina (whole pubic area). It's an actual blur. You can't discern anything. I don't really know if it's typical or not because I've only watched a handful and I've forgotten all of them except this one because I saw it a few months ago.

There are some beautiful women who take their clothes off but the acting is usually a bit sub-par and the stories aren't great. It's hard to come up with an accurate comparison. Maybe sexploitation style American/European films with a JAV-like blur whenever a dick or a vagina could be shown?

those 90s to early 2000s Korean soft porn are different from present korean softcore, and they not blur, only using camera angle trick to hide the lower genital, they are better and more hot, thats why I'm trying to search and hope can get it again

hmm I think for comparison, its closer to thai and pinoy softcore, but with less stories & dialogues and more sex in it
 

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I'm pretty sure some of those artistic softcore that doesn't feature av idols, but future famous mainstream celebrities did enter film festival and won awards. A lot of cat 3 actors and actresses won awards with their roles. I think shu qi won or at least nominated for playing a fictional version of herself in viva erotica as a cat 3 actress. A lot of people argue lust caution is a cat3 mainstream softcore with the amount of sex scenes. The line between softcore being closer to mainstream or av is kind of loose.

well its already a decade, and I do not see any of those soft porn girls became big celebrities in Korea, I don't know their name but I do remember their faces

like I wrote before, its just porn, different from HK Cat III movies, those korean soft porn not stepping stone for better position like Su Qi, Vivian Hsu and Loretta Lee did in HK

for me Lust Caution is same like The Lover, both are erotic movies
 
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well its already a decade, and I do not see any of those soft porn girls became big celebrities in Korea, I don't know their name but I do remember their faces

like I wrote before, its just porn, different from HK Cat III movies, those korean soft porn not stepping stone for better position like Su Qi, Vivian Hsu and Loretta Lee did in HK

for me Lust Caution is same like The Lover, both are erotic movies
Despite hk people used to be so proud and belittle china, but a lot of older folks are very close minded. Cat 3 are like shameful porn to them even if it possess a real plot. They got their own tmz paparazzi snooping around. Tbh prostitutions and drugs is big in hk and they're just being hypocritical and pretentious. Nowadays, hk film more non-nude sex flicks like LAN Kwai fong and gigolos since no one wants to get shame by the public. The last few nude ones, they hired av idols, mainland and Taiwan models.
 

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There are Hollywood even big budget (big name mainstream stars) ero-films for reference. Eyes wide shut, Showgirls etc. One of the best ever was Caligula, plenty of sex (but no genitals) and it's actually quite historical.

http://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/news/g2818/best-movie-sex-scenes/

Plenty of nudity, sex-themed, but also "good" enough to appear at film fests, even get some Oscar, Golden Globe etc nominations.

Softcore is as @Supmop said, porn (only purpose is fapping aid) but when the laws get in the way.

those softcore definitely are not festival / award material, like I wrote before, its basically just porn with simulated sex acts, and yes those soft porn that I mean is closer to american softcore, short stories not many dialogues, only showing females and males dry humping

so when I get bored with hardcore, but still want to see straight to sex movies, those soft porn are great choice
Hmm... yeah... but I personally don't have these moments... If I want sex, it's at least JAV, preferably uncensored. If I don't want sex, then I may want some IV, gravue, or pink/V/erotic films. Not into softcore porn (since 20 years ago).
 
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There are Hollywood even big budget (big name mainstream stars) ero-films for reference. Eyes wide shut, Showgirls etc. One of the best ever was Caligula, plenty of sex (but no genitals) and it's actually quite historical.

http://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/news/g2818/best-movie-sex-scenes/

Plenty of nudity, sex-themed, but also "good" enough to appear at film fests, even get some Oscar, Golden Globe etc nominations.

Softcore is as @Supmop said, porn (only purpose is fapping aid) but when the laws get in the way.


Hmm... yeah... but I personally don't have these moments... If I want sex, it's at least JAV, preferably uncensored. If I don't want sex, then I may want some IV, gravue, or pink/V/erotic films. Not into softcore porn (since 20 years ago).
Sometimes, you need to watch vcinemas to immerse yourself in the mood because you need some sort of deeper fantasy that av can't give you.