"Japanese Porn Cultural Exchange"

ding73ding

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Hopefully someone would combine the best of both JAV and Western (mainly Europorn).

NUMBER ONE: no mosaic
JAV: young healthy girls (many US porn stars look like 40+, even if they were actually younger)

JAV: (some) highly imaginative and kinky theme, I like some of the embarrassment/humiliation theme, but there are many other fun theme in JAV, e.g. magic mirror bus

Western: a lot more anal and DP, IMHO anal sex should be as normal as oral and vaginal sex, everyone should try it at least once and I really believe anyone who makes money in this business should do at least a few anal scenes. I'd love to see all my favorite JAV actress in DP scenes, at least vag/oral, if not vag/anal.

Western: better pacing, a lot JAV suffer from foreplay that's way way too long. From the end of talking (if any) to the exposure of naughty bits can takes over 10 minutes! A JAV scene can last 45 minutes and there might only be 20 minutes of actual penetration.

Western: no solo. I mean ok, some JAV actress are that beautiful and that good in acting and fucking that each deserve a whole movie to herself. I don't know about you, but the JAV guys aren't much to look at, and their cocks range from barely serviceable to downright laughable. So with solo discs being the norm, many film actually look like one really long drawn-out scene. But most are not that special. I think the Western balance of typically more than 3 girls per film, more than 4 scene per film, and at least one MMF or MFF scene per film is a success formula. Not every film/dvd should follow the formula, but it's good as a rule of thumb.

Western: bigger stiffer cocks. I don't care about white/yellow/black when it comes to the guys, but those on the JAV's are too small, and too limp. That's the biggest complaint (surprising, a little) from my wife. The mosaic and the size and lameness of the cocks.

JAV can get pretty boring too... a lot of the themes/fetishes are very Japanese culture-specific, to the extent even the rest of Asia (I'm qualified to speak on this, trust me) don't really get. A lot of the soapland stuff, the agonizingly slow ritualistic way that Japanese men expected of sexual services, it's boring! Let's keep the more exotic or kinky element but free the directorial mindset from the Japanese rigid rituals.
 

February

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This also. A lot of western JAV viewers are Asian because of the lack of representation of Asian men in western porn. Why would they help promote white male talent with JAV idols? Would White men actively promote Asian male talent in western studios with western actresses? This makes no sense.

My thoughts exactly. Us Asian men already get shafted in Western media, now you wanna serve hot Asian women up to them on a platter when there's already severe racial discrimination against us in American society...you must either be White or a super idiotic Asian guy
 
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Sorry for the late reply...

I think simply not enough Asian men turn up at Western studios asking for a chance to shoot? There must be a combination of factors, not all of them due to discrimination.

Of course I'm White, as for the so-called "lack" of such audience, just go on a 'tube-style site and read the comments saying how much they love those J-Girls... Of course there'll also be the critical ones.
 

Pussyhunter1

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Hopefully someone would combine the best of both JAV and Western (mainly Europorn).
....Western: bigger stiffer cocks. I don't care about white/yellow/black when it comes to the guys, but those on the JAV's are too small, and too limp. That's the biggest complaint (surprising, a little) from my wife. The mosaic and the size and lameness of the cocks.
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In various interviews with JAV producers, they emphasized that there are no such thing as 'actor' in JAV, the only 'star' is the pron actress in the film, all those male counterparts appear in the porn with the actress are named as workers. Japanese audiences are not interest in porn actors.

Thats why many JAV even hided the actors cock and face, unlike western porn that emphasizing actors cock, Japanese audiences hate to see big cock appear on their screen only they know why, however, they like to watch scenes like innocent girls fucking short, skinny, shy, or dirty old fart, thats why JAV actors are usually unattractive instead of hot good looking Japanese guys, maybe its a filming trick to create 'beauty vs monster' fetish effect and the actress look prettier. As JAV are 100% created to suit Japanese audience taste only, the producers don't expect JAV to be watched by non-Japanese audience, also major large JAV producers websites cannot be accessed outside Japan.

There's a taste difference between JAV and US porn. Asian males are not interested in Western women in general, but Western men are obsessed with Asian women very much (just like Black men like to screw white girls but less white guys Are into Black women), so more western audiences have comments towards JAV and even want to participate in JAV to shag the hot Japanese actress(end up in a thread like this).
 

ding73ding

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In various interviews with JAV producers, they emphasized that there are no such thing as 'actor' in JAV, ...
they like to watch scenes like innocent girls fucking short, skinny, shy, or dirty old fart, thats why JAV actors are usually unattractive instead of hot good looking Japanese guys, maybe its a filming trick to create 'beauty vs monster' fetish effect and the actress look prettier. As JAV are 100% created to suit Japanese audience taste only,

Yep... Agree so far. As why JAV has so many sub-standard men in them... my only explanation is that 90% of JAV is consumed by 10% of the worst addicts (just a rule of thumb from alcohol and drug abuse literature). And these 10% addicts are skinny/fat/virgin boy/dirty old men/chick-repellent otaku etc. Sub-standard men. In most places, porn is (probably) consumed by a more balanced representation of the (male) population, in Japan it's probably predominantly the low-self-esteem portion of the population. They don't want to be reminded why they are unable to get to first base in real life. I will bet there's even a lot of them have never seen a pair of tits in real, they probably have spent a million yens in JAV and yet too afraid to go to any of the sex joints or massage parlor which cost only 10000 Yens or even less.

BTW... I am more and more a fan of uncensored JAV. I think since they are more geared towards export, they are more sensitive to global (or at least Western) tastes. And you start to see uncensored catching up with the good aspects of censored JAV and making up for some of its shortcoming (pardon the pun).

There's a taste difference between JAV and US porn. Asian males are not interested in Western women in general, but Western men are obsessed with Asian women ...

First be careful about grouping Asian anything together. At least as far as sex, porn, JAV is concerned, Asia still has a huge difference. E.g. if you check out Indian porn (which I do not recommend, BTW) you would clearly see it's very different from the rest of Asia, just as JAV is popular in many places, but it poorly represent either Japan or rest of Asia in real life. Also, as of now, Asian men are very very interested in white women, especially blonde. American porn sells very well everywhere. Especially in Europe, which, IMHO, produce much superior porno than Americans. But walk into any sex vid stores in Europe, and you will see American porns taking about half of the store. Also I am not too sure about Western men are that interested in Asian women. JAV still remains a fringe in West. I've been to a few adult entertainment cons in New York and Amsterdam. In both, JAV are clearly a small niche. And also Asian American porn stars are few and far in between. You have Asia Carrera from way way back... There's a Japanese S&M girl Kasumi who's active in Europorn. There was Annabella Chong who invented the world record gangbang fad. They are not really in any better status than negro women in Western porn.

But we are in the English medium... Akiba is where the fringe English-speaking-JAV-fans gathers... so we have a slightly distorted sense that Asian women are so in demand.