What a fucking bunch of weirdos you all are!!...I am too...this is why I love this group!! lolYeap, so any Japanese speaking gokkun fans here in akiba-online? Put your hands up please LOL
I personally think it would be easier if we let epic JAV directors to let their imagination loose.
I know Japanese use Twitter a lot so maybe we can get in touch with the directors that way.
As for an independent film production company, we would definitely need someone with passion to carry the company, I guess I could pitch in some cash, but seems kinda farfetched.
As a non-Japanese, it is hard to grasp the situation of how the JAV industry works so if we could get some insight of how it really operates, it would be great too.
I am pretty sure a typical Japanese wouldn't know that too, so somebody within the Japanese porn industry would be great! I guess asking a JAV director himself would be the best way, provided that they even want to entertain us haha
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I am quite sure that he is Kirin
https://twitter.com/waap_kirin
Now if somebody would be willing to try and contact him, it'd be great
I guess I could try using Google Translate later to see how well it goes XD
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Awesome discussion guys... hadn't had a chance to catch up on everything yet so forgive me if i say something already said... and many thanks to whoever it was for remembering my idea of a couple years back lol, which kind of sparked my interest in it even more...
Wonder if it came down to it, if say, Maki Hashikawa, Miki Sunohara, Mao Hamasaki, and Kanna Misaki (off the top of my head seems like an excellent Final 4!) could ever be persuaded to do a last harrah at gokkun, or maybe even being sold on the idea of "saving" the gokkun genre, in the form of a competition of some kind, and lets just say somehow they were able to be paid significantly more than ever before doing it.
Then maybe tell them that they have 50 men (negotiable number lol) to do gokkun with, and they have creative control of how exactly they do the scene or scenes in order to score points with the fans/judges however they choose to do. This would really go a long way to determine who the real Gokkun Queen would be.
Then maybe someone like Hana Kano feels slighted and starts talking smack about how she got robbed from being in the field, and that nobody loves cum more than she does, and she challenges the winner to a 1-1 cum swallowing battle lol. Endless possibilities lol.
Another possibility is remaking the classics. There are remakes of old movies all the time but never in porn. Like how bout Endless Semen movies but with a new, younger actress? I guess getting the guys isn't always easy.
Speaking of, I hate mentioning this, but loads back in some of the older movies were incredible compared to some of the wimpy loads of today. If some kind of great Gokkun tournament ever comes off, there better be committed "juice men" lol who can save up for a long period of time.
And whether the competition was actually real or not is irrelevant, although if there could be an accurate way to keep track with some kind of a vote tally, that would be cool too.
Anyway.... if only we could reach out to Kirin or some other director who could take this idea and run with it
Wonder if it came down to it, if say, Maki Hashikawa, Miki Sunohara, Mao Hamasaki, and Kanna Misaki (off the top of my head seems like an excellent Final 4!) could ever be persuaded to do a last harrah at gokkun, or maybe even being sold on the idea of "saving" the gokkun genre, in the form of a competition of some kind, and lets just say somehow they were able to be paid significantly more than ever before doing it.
Then maybe tell them that they have 50 men (negotiable number lol) to do gokkun with, and they have creative control of how exactly they do the scene or scenes in order to score points with the fans/judges however they choose to do. This would really go a long way to determine who the real Gokkun Queen would be.
Then maybe someone like Hana Kano feels slighted and starts talking smack about how she got robbed from being in the field, and that nobody loves cum more than she does, and she challenges the winner to a 1-1 cum swallowing battle lol. Endless possibilities lol.
Another possibility is remaking the classics. There are remakes of old movies all the time but never in porn. Like how bout Endless Semen movies but with a new, younger actress? I guess getting the guys isn't always easy.
Speaking of, I hate mentioning this, but loads back in some of the older movies were incredible compared to some of the wimpy loads of today. If some kind of great Gokkun tournament ever comes off, there better be committed "juice men" lol who can save up for a long period of time.
And whether the competition was actually real or not is irrelevant, although if there could be an accurate way to keep track with some kind of a vote tally, that would be cool too.
Anyway.... if only we could reach out to Kirin or some other director who could take this idea and run with it
Great suggestions TerdFerguson -especially giving the girls creative control. Great choice of final 4 as well.
We really should try and make this a reality.
We need to get a pool of cash together somehow to make it worthwhile for the girls - and to show our appreciation.
If we go with your contest idea, maybe a large cash bonus for the winner (as voted by us the fans). That will give them extra incentive.
True, Mika Osawa should DEFINITELY be in it. No reason why it would have to be a single elimination tournament friendly number of participants. But if so, maybe an Elite 8 would be fitting. The 8 most elite gokkun girls of the past 5-10 years. That's 5 for sure.
Who would get the nod for the last 3 spots? I think they need to have done a minimum of 2-3 mass gokkuns in their day, like 30 or more swallows, for starters. There were so many great swallowers back in the day. It would be super interesting to see which of them would really want to do this if there were much more substantial cash incentive.
Also, the idea for a cash bonus for number 1 vote getter is great!
Who would get the nod for the last 3 spots? I think they need to have done a minimum of 2-3 mass gokkuns in their day, like 30 or more swallows, for starters. There were so many great swallowers back in the day. It would be super interesting to see which of them would really want to do this if there were much more substantial cash incentive.
Also, the idea for a cash bonus for number 1 vote getter is great!
Ichika Kuroka comes to mind also. Hana Kano has to be considered. Maybe even the girl who recently did 242 (even though we all hated the heavy mosaic). There are so many when you think about it.
Creative control. Yes, this would be the ingredient that's been missing all along. Imagine watching Kanna Misaki having 15 guys cum into a martini glass for her to drink- only this time knowing it was 100% her idea, just so she could win the prize of being the number 1 Gokkun Girl (and winning the extra cash! lol)
I would love to see the girls having cum drinking/eating competition. It sounded like a Rocket themed kind of title. Not that I'd complain! Fingers crossed for titles like these to be released!
I've had a few ideas about funding this project.
Because there will be a cash bonus for the winner, to avoid accusations of vote rigging, we set up an online registration site. Only votes from officially registered voters will be valid. Registration fee is US $100. All of that money goes towards production costs of the film.
To pay the actresses, we set up a patreon-type account for each of our final list of 10 or 20 actresses. That way fans only pay for the actress they want to see. Minimum pledge donation is US$1000, (to an actress of your choice), and it goes up in $1000 increments from there (Tell me if you think that seems excessive?). We could advertise this on other porn forums and websites to attract more subscribers. There must be thousands of guys around the world who would like to support such a worthy cause.
If an actress doesn't get any pledges - she's not in the film. Money is due as soon as the actress agrees to the project and signs up - and all pledges are legally binding.
As we are effectively bank-rolling the project, wouldn't we be the legal owners of the finished film? And therefore be able to recoup some or all of our money selling the rights to it to file-hosting servers and porn sites?
TerdFerguguson's post has given me an idea for an opening scene for the film - actually it is TerdFergusons idea, but I have just made a few changes (I don't want to plagiarise anyone!).
SCENE ONE
4 girls are sitting at a table in what looks like an expensive restaurant (I would personally like to see China Matsuoka take part in this scene - but I don't know if she would be up for it). Also Misaki Kanna - as suggested by TerdFerguson.
Each girl has a champagne glass in front of her (the wide saucer-shaped ones like the one in my avatar photo).
10 to 15 guys jerk-off into each girls glass. The girls raise their glasses in a toast, clink glasses, and start sipping the contents. They savour the taste and tell each other how great their glass tastes. They then get the other girls to have a sip from their glass ("Mine tastes so good you have to try some").
When they are finished they wipe the inside of their glasses clean with their finger and stick their finger into their own mouths and then lick their finger clean.
END OF SCENE ONE
Apologies if this has been done before, - I'm not familiar with any of the older films - pre 2008.
Because there will be a cash bonus for the winner, to avoid accusations of vote rigging, we set up an online registration site. Only votes from officially registered voters will be valid. Registration fee is US $100. All of that money goes towards production costs of the film.
To pay the actresses, we set up a patreon-type account for each of our final list of 10 or 20 actresses. That way fans only pay for the actress they want to see. Minimum pledge donation is US$1000, (to an actress of your choice), and it goes up in $1000 increments from there (Tell me if you think that seems excessive?). We could advertise this on other porn forums and websites to attract more subscribers. There must be thousands of guys around the world who would like to support such a worthy cause.
If an actress doesn't get any pledges - she's not in the film. Money is due as soon as the actress agrees to the project and signs up - and all pledges are legally binding.
As we are effectively bank-rolling the project, wouldn't we be the legal owners of the finished film? And therefore be able to recoup some or all of our money selling the rights to it to file-hosting servers and porn sites?
TerdFerguguson's post has given me an idea for an opening scene for the film - actually it is TerdFergusons idea, but I have just made a few changes (I don't want to plagiarise anyone!).
SCENE ONE
4 girls are sitting at a table in what looks like an expensive restaurant (I would personally like to see China Matsuoka take part in this scene - but I don't know if she would be up for it). Also Misaki Kanna - as suggested by TerdFerguson.
Each girl has a champagne glass in front of her (the wide saucer-shaped ones like the one in my avatar photo).
10 to 15 guys jerk-off into each girls glass. The girls raise their glasses in a toast, clink glasses, and start sipping the contents. They savour the taste and tell each other how great their glass tastes. They then get the other girls to have a sip from their glass ("Mine tastes so good you have to try some").
When they are finished they wipe the inside of their glasses clean with their finger and stick their finger into their own mouths and then lick their finger clean.
END OF SCENE ONE
Apologies if this has been done before, - I'm not familiar with any of the older films - pre 2008.
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Remember Cecile Fujisaki? She did a gokkun movie, it was more in the girlfriend genera but was good.
Someone mentioned using a comedic approach- before I forget, a scene I've always imagined is where the actress goes into a pre-production meeting/interview with the producer at the beginning and they are discussing the scene and at some point they discuss financial arrangements, and finally the girl starts getting out her checkbook and says something like "well who do i make the check out to?" at which point the producer is confused and says, you don't pay us, we are paying YOU... The girl incredulously looks at the camera as if she's just amazed that SHE is the one getting paid, all for doing something she was ready to pay to do. And then you get to hear her thinking out loud like, "I just can't BELIEVE I am getting paid to swallow 50 loads of delicious cum! This must be my lucky day!!" Lol.
Megumi Shino for sure. Check out first scene of her Gokkun Secret Base title for proof. Also, a lot of gokkun titles in her day qualifies her.
LOL. pretty much all the greats that were in the classic videos that include +100 shots, or at least 25 loads minimum in a given scene. So best example is a lot of the recent chicks in ASW videos, they would not make the cut.
But, anyone that was in one of those 100+ shots videos will make the round robin bracket. E.g. DJE-049 Miku Abeno. She is not my fave, but she DID lovingly swallow 40+ loads in the first scene with no complaint.
It's gotta be a freak that doesn't mind cum at all. Meaning she'll play with it, spit it out in a pan, let cum sit out in the cold while it gets gnarly and still slurp it up etc. Gotta have true credentials lol
Think Airi Natsume is still active in some capacity... 
In terms of ranking the top 10 gokkun queens, my criteria is not how many loads they have swallowed, but a combination of how beautiful their face is, and how enthusiastic and genuinely happy they are to be gulping down jizz.
I would much rather see a gorgeous girl swallow 10 or 20 loads, than a dog swallow 100. The first is a major turn-on, the second is a gross turn-off.
Though as someone mentioned in an earlier post, even a moderately pretty girl can become so much sexier in your mind after you've seen her swallow enthusiastically.
So my ranking criteria would be.
First - beautiful face
Second - genuine enthusiasm
Last - how many loads she swallows.
I would much rather see a gorgeous girl swallow 10 or 20 loads, than a dog swallow 100. The first is a major turn-on, the second is a gross turn-off.
Though as someone mentioned in an earlier post, even a moderately pretty girl can become so much sexier in your mind after you've seen her swallow enthusiastically.
So my ranking criteria would be.
First - beautiful face
Second - genuine enthusiasm
Last - how many loads she swallows.
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Agree completely. Also, saved up cum at a certain point produces diminishing returns in my opinion. It's why I'd rather not have titles like the big huge swallows that Mao Hamasaki and Rena Aoi did, where I think they both ended up being pretty unenthusiastic by the time they were done, if not puking. That becomes a waste of cum and male talent in my opinion. I know some are turned on by that and to each his own, but i strongly prefer the enthusiastic, happy to be swallowing type.
Nobody is asking, but here are my Gokkun Greatest of All Time (GOAT) performers:
S-Tier
- Nanami Nanase
- Ann Nanba
- Kirari Koizumi
- Nao
- Kurumi Morishita
- Mai Sakashita
- Ai Kurosawa
A-Tier
- Megumi Shino
- Mao Hamasaki
- Tsubomi
- Kokoro Amano
- Rina Takase
- Momo Iizawa
- Yukine Sakuragi
B-Tier
- Miki Sunohara
- Asuka Sawaguchi
- Mayura Hoshitsuki
- Rin
- Mitsu Amai
- Rena Aoi
- Kay
- Rei Aoki
- Marika
Honourable Mentions
- Ameri Ichinose
- Bunko Kanazawa
- Marina Muranishi
- Miku Abeno
- Hikari Mizuno
- Chihiro Hara
- Yukari Sakurada
- Nao Oikawa
Didn't Make the Cut
- Abe Mikako
- Ayu Sakurai
- Akira Elly
- Mari Rika
- Kanna Misaki
- Natsume Airi
- Ai Uehara
- Mika Osawa
- Riho Nanase
S-Tier
- Nanami Nanase
- Ann Nanba
- Kirari Koizumi
- Nao
- Kurumi Morishita
- Mai Sakashita
- Ai Kurosawa
A-Tier
- Megumi Shino
- Mao Hamasaki
- Tsubomi
- Kokoro Amano
- Rina Takase
- Momo Iizawa
- Yukine Sakuragi
B-Tier
- Miki Sunohara
- Asuka Sawaguchi
- Mayura Hoshitsuki
- Rin
- Mitsu Amai
- Rena Aoi
- Kay
- Rei Aoki
- Marika
Honourable Mentions
- Ameri Ichinose
- Bunko Kanazawa
- Marina Muranishi
- Miku Abeno
- Hikari Mizuno
- Chihiro Hara
- Yukari Sakurada
- Nao Oikawa
Didn't Make the Cut
- Abe Mikako
- Ayu Sakurai
- Akira Elly
- Mari Rika
- Kanna Misaki
- Natsume Airi
- Ai Uehara
- Mika Osawa
- Riho Nanase