ELEnin Dwarf Star WARNING September 26, 2011

megatroll said:
Seriously, just imagine the massive chaos of violence that would break out.
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Probably the best argument for such a conspiracy in the first place. Nobody with any sanity would tell the public if such were the case. The anarchy would be horrific. Better to let us go about our daily lives in peace than to die in the complete and utter living hell that man might inflict on one another. It would take true courage to face certain death with honor and selfless humility. ( A virtue that at one time was held in the highest respect in Japan).
 
Ceewan said:
Probably the best argument for such a conspiracy in the first place. Nobody with any sanity would tell the public if such were the case. The anarchy would be horrific. Better to let us go about our daily lives in peace than to die in the complete and utter living hell that man might inflict on one another. It would take true courage to face certain death with honor and selfless humility. ( A virtue that at one time was held in the highest respect in Japan).
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[FONT=""Palatino Linotype"]I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy, when you're young and you found something going on..." [/FONT]:harp:

But then I realized that my surrounding, society and the countless years of seclusion have turned me into a misanthropic psycho that hides his feelings in his own introvert world. So yeah, I'd probably fulfill my dream of running amok in a shopping mall with a chainsaw. :please:
 
megatroll said:
[FONT=""Palatino Linotype"]I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy, when you're young and you found something going on..." [/FONT]:harp:

But then I realized that my surrounding, society and the countless years of seclusion have turned me into a misanthropic psycho that hides his feelings in his own introvert world. So yeah, I'd probably fulfill my dream of running amok in a shopping mall with a chainsaw. :please:
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I do hope you don't live in the same neighborhood as I am.

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... Just for laughs,
if it happens, caring wouldn't do much good.

Actually interesting aspects but a correction on the scale of things is "they assume it has a size twice of Jupiter" is wrong and should read "mass twice that of Jupiter"

Now mass in this case is far more dangerous than size if it passes at 0.25 AU as they also say it will since it affects our gravitational fields. However towards the shift October/November it should pass out of our solar system across our orbit approx. 4 days (96 hours) ahead of our passing the same place, at approx. 88,000 kph which places the whole thing at some 8,5 million (not 34 million) km distance in the tail of the icy tail.

On the other hand, the comets, which is NOT a dwarf star and coming much closer to us are 1) HONDA, approx 1/3 of the distance away and 2) yet another comet called something doomsday like, assumed to passing in 2014-2024 just outside our atmosphere, and then returning mid 2030's possibly crashing.

The later one is approx. 250 meter in diameter and would offset an equivalent 1,000 kT nuclear blast.

Now as for Elenin, it would be interesting if they could make up their minds in the peer review circles weather or not the dwarf star is 450 meters or 5425 Kilometers in diameter. (the latter being approx. 75% of the size of Planet Earth) since it is also dragging along some three or four orbiting moons which could smash into just about anything as well.

In the greater perspective, solar flares are far more dangerous than any of this, unless a giant solar flare sets off when Elenin passes between us and the sun in direct alignment, in which case the "tail blast" of molten ice and rock would blast in our immediate direction as is common for comets, causing meteors and possible meteorites to head for our little blue rock in the sky.

Lots of reading and lots of info needs to be analyzed before believing any and all doomsday prophecies. :study:
 
"There's no conspiracy here. There's no danger from Comet Elenin. There's no danger in 2012. I'm sorry that people get upset by it, but believe me, while there are plenty of real problems on the earth, they don't come from the sky,"
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source:
http://www.goddiscussion.com/75214/...so-called-niburu-and-elenin-threats-to-earth/

Other good reading:

http://news.discovery.com/space/comet-elenin-wont-kill-us-says-nasa-110817.html

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-255&cid=release_2011-255

http://weblogs.marylandweather.com/2011/08/one_comet_a_future_threat_anot.html

My favorite quote from above sources:
"So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers," said Yeomans. "It will have an immeasurably minuscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."
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whow title says its a "dwarf star" ? comets do move around easily but for a runaway dwarf star going nuts hitting a planet? that probably would be as easy as looking at a jumbo plane coming right on you right in the eye, i aint scientist but havent ever heard of star collisions that would happen in a scale of millions of years... that is if the odds happens at all.. if you know what i mean here..

*see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_collision#Stellar_Collisions_and_our_Solar_System

then again, this topic made me remember some biblical shits i read ages ago, saying we're gonna be doooomed by a comet called "swift tuttle" which supposedly will pass again (and get a bulls eye hit this time) on 2126

source:
http://www.muphin.net/biblecode/07.htm

doomsday @ 2126?? hell! unless some mad scientist gonna market some sort of immortal-tabs like a vitamin caps in the next 30 - 50 years, that gonna be my porn watching descendant who gonna shit their pants not me :exhausted:

you could ended up dead (and with more probability & like hood) being hit by a truck on your way buying tissue boxes so why worried about some fancy grand scale way to die out of god-sent meteor crash :gayprance: :gayprance:
 
Summer-Time-Fun said:
I am clueless about astronomy.

I was only showing something I found with the idea that someone could shed some light on the report, and I got what I needed.
If I'm not mistaking I think I did imply that I wasn't sure what to believe ...in my original post.
I'm not trying to market anything, my apologies xkainx. If everyone knew everything, we would never speak to each other.

On the other hand, it's difficult to say that something should or should not be credited just because NASA, or some other agency says so. Look at how the US news was reporting the Japanese nuclear issue everyday, now you don't hear anything about it. Mostly likely because the Japanese Gov told the US to keep their news media's mouths shut because it was hurting agriculture sales in JP. I just thought it was strange at first when I found the black patch in Google sky blocking where this thing was suppose to be. Personally I'm not afraid, and I don't really believe the report. But I also don't put all my faith into what governments and agency's say against it ...independent, or not. My point is, I'm not going to discredit it completely. Because in this money hungry world, I don't know guy standing next to the guy I'm talking to. Who do you believe these days with all the BS going on out there.



Punishment? ok. :sadomaso:
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Wow, we're still here. [/sarcasm]
Looks like those shady, fat-cat NASA scientists were right. A good dose of skepticism is fine, but it seems more and more these days that the skepticism is directed in the wrong direction. Scientists already deal with peer review and the process is necessarily self-correcting. Unfortunately, what passes for skepticism these days is generally a thinly-veiled personal/political agenda mobilized by those looking to gain money/fame/power. "Global warming is a hoax!" "911 was an inside job!" I hope we chalk this whole dwarf star cataclysm BS up as a lesson for all the armchair scientists who slap together random tidbits of crackpotted, half-baked information and try to pass it off as science.
 
xkainx said:
Wow, we're still here. [/sarcasm]
Looks like those shady, fat-cat NASA scientists were right. A good dose of skepticism is fine, but it seems more and more these days that the skepticism is directed in the wrong direction. Scientists already deal with peer review and the process is necessarily self-correcting. Unfortunately, what passes for skepticism these days is generally a thinly-veiled personal/political agenda mobilized by those looking to gain money/fame/power. "Global warming is a hoax!" "911 was an inside job!" I hope we chalk this whole dwarf star cataclysm BS up as a lesson for all the armchair scientists who slap together random tidbits of crackpotted, half-baked information and try to pass it off as science.
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Nicely put, actually. I think the general public is just used to being lied to and question everything, which in general is a good thing. Someday I would like to see "politically correct" and for "national security" be replaced with a little more honesty.

As far as the end of the world goes, well, one day it will end. No doubting that. If a comet can take a chunk out of Jupiter it can take one out of Earth, nor would it be the first time that had happened. Worldwide plague or nuclear war is also possible. Finally, one day the Sun itself will burn out. Nothing lasts forever, nor should we expect it to.

Love thy neighbor as thyself
 
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