Beyond Attackers

[ymcrs066]

There are other studios producing much better "strong reluctance" movies than Attackers. Attackers is loosing its charm due to two reasons:
1) Poor choice of actress
2) weak reluctance acting.
In fact, ADN label of attackers can not be considered "r***" genre after one or two scenes.
Legendary actresses like Yuna Shiina, Asami Ogawa, Nana Aida, Yuka Minase, Maki Hojo, Risa Kasumi etc are now only past of attackers.
Many great beauties who never appeared in Attackers have great r*** movies from other studios:

Emily Okazaki in IPZ015 from idea pocket
Kaoru Natsuki in NSPS248 from NagaseStyle
Yui Oba in TORG007 from Olga
Jessica Kizaki in IPTD813 from idea pocket
Akiho Yoshizawa in many movies from S1S1s1
Miku Ohashi in MIDE007 from Moodyz

Misa Yuuki in Jux081 from Madonna and Yui Hatano in Jux089 from Madona are simply superb quality drama. When it comes to r*** genre, other studios such as idea pocket, Side-b, s1s1s1, Moodyz, Madonna, Prestige etc produce better movies than Attackers.

Provide names of actress that you would like to see in Attackers. Also provide movies from other studio with good quality "strong reluctance" drama.

 

[jugulear]

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I've got to admit, I wasn't even aware that the choice of actresses in ATTACKERS movies were comparatively not as appealing, nor that the other studios' output was beating ATTACKERS at their own game. Have to hand it to you for being enough of a connoisseur to have noticed these points, Ymcrs066.

I am thinking of a couple of things to bear in mind; one, even though JAV suffers from its repetitive formulas (where we may expect each film from a series to practically be a carbon copy of the next), we still have to take each movie on its own merit. Not all ATTACKERS movies are the same, given that they can be directed by different directors and may have different creative people on hand. Like everything else, some are good, some are not as good. Some entries in a series carry more of a punch than others; even when the same formula is followed to a tee, there are certain elements that may succeed in pushing our buttons, such as the special essence of an actress, effective performances, and the like.

Secondly, many of the major JAV studios are under one roof, that of DMM. So there is a lot of crossover... one studio is not necessarily all that more distinctive than another, within the DMM umbrella. As an example, once I whimsically pointed out how the same swimming pool is seen in the product of so many different movies, and DMM's Captain Bondage (I miss him!) gave me the idea that such is only natural, given how resources are shared between many of the studios DMM owns.

Two of Ymcrs066's examples, in fact, while not officially ATTACKERS movies, were done under what they call the supervision of ATTACKERS:

Under the Direction of Attackers- Violated Right in Front of the Husband [IPZ-015, with Emiri Okazaki], and

Under the Direction of Attackers- Violated Right in Front of the Husband [IPTD-813, with Jessica Kizaki]

(450 MB painless download for the latter, with a watermark. Also, this one at more than twice the size, from a JavLibrary contributor. The movie stars Tenant, so you know you're in for an extra treat.)



EDIT:
Leebar has directed a nice question to our thread-starter below, and while awaiting Ymcrs066's hopeful response, I was inspired to share how Member Kessari so masterfully gave his take on the matter of "weak reluctance," while commenting on the wonderful actress Rin Ogawa:
"She really express distress, reluctance and resistance to an artful level. Definitely not those closing their eyes and say no no no and just both hand grabbing the pillow stereotypes and not showing too much resistance..."


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[leebar]

There are other studios producing much better "strong reluctance" movies than Attackers. Attackers is loosing its charm due to two reasons:
1) Poor choice of actress
2) weak reluctance acting.

Very interesting post. Could you describe what you would call "weak" reluctance acting. Many have posted in various threads about what they like to see from the actress in r*** scenes. I'm just wondering if one viewer's "weak" might be another viewer's "submissive" or "feeling morally compromised" or even "physically stimulated while emotionally shutting down." I tend to watch with the mute on to make it easier to read into the scene my own preferences.

Yumcrs066, if you have time, it would be helpful to know what betrays weak acting for you: is it the way lines are spoken, the sounds they make, their facial expressions, body language...?

 

[CodeGeek]

Attackers is not only about r***, but also about story. IMHO I think the quality was always fluctuant. And I think it's not only problem of the present. On the other side it's maybe because I liked and like some stories, actresses and maybe also actors more than others. So it's more about my taste than that the movies are really that different in aspect of their quality.

 

[Zen10101]

I've never actually considered Attackers as the leading producer of r*** themed titles. They're good, but other studios have always been just as competitive. Take the Investigator genre for example, S1 have their own series with their similar share of hits and misses. Moodyz have their fantastic Teacher Gangbang series. The list goes on, and despite being "specialists" in the genre I've never felt that the best r*** titles were anywhere near being exclusive to Attackers. I can't distinguish them by production companies, so it's always the actress that draws my attention.

I think they're doing ok lately. Natsume Iroha in particular has been very active; 14 original films released since Sep 14. But I think she lacks range and has a long way to go for a place in the Hall of Fame.

 

[kessari]

Very interesting post. Could you describe what you would call "weak" reluctance acting. Many have posted in various threads about what they like to see from the actress in r*** scenes. I'm just wondering if one viewer's "weak" might be another viewer's "submissive" or "feeling morally compromised" or even "physically stimulated while emotionally shutting down." I tend to watch with the mute on to make it easier to read into the scene my own preferences.

Yumcrs066, if you have time, it would be helpful to know what betrays weak acting for you: is it the way lines are spoken, the sounds they make, their facial expressions, body language...?

For me personally its more on the acting/subtle body movement/non linear facial expression, but like you said , one man's poison can be another man's food. Some ppl may just like the weak submissive close eyes and shake head and little resistance. But by no mean I am a fan of violent attacker movies such as slapping , beating , violent shoving etc. I am more focused on the actresses' reaction rather than the actual attack itself tbh =D

For E.g Long post ahead guys.....

Apologies for all the watermark in advance>.<

In the recent Molester Impregnation Wanz-408 with Shelly Fujii
http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=tkwanz408

There's a scene where she try to push aside the molester and then realise the entire train carriage were into the gang too..



She actually look around shocked(although abit too mildly) when the rest join in , while many lesser expressive actresses will just "close eyes and shake head" already "expecting" the entire carriage to join in.

While I am a big fan of big boobs, that let me check out ADN-075 Young wife something (shaking boobs?) THIS IS QUITE GOOD (sorry for the caps , read on guys to see why)
http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=adn075

I was just expecting low level vase type acting while just focusing on big boobs , Mei Matsumoto really surprise me with her level of portraying resistance sophistication(yep i coined that term up).
And the protagonist is Mr Dignified , nick given by Jug, however I like to call him the Ponzi Guy.. like some actresses , he only got 1 facial expression in whatever role or position he play (Wanna buy into my ponzi scheme?)

Nobody stealing her expensive Victoria's Secrets to pay for some ponzi scheme

She really fought hard for her panties man and her expressions show quite the appropriate distress (not close eyes and shake head again) nor too much distress. (Just right , mmmm like a gourmet chef seasoning)

You are buying into my ponzi scheme whether you beat me or not (yes she beating him , I like her to beat me too in this way if you seen the movie)

She is actually really trying to push him away , but you never guess , quite the level of artfulness

Sorry can't resist it (OT)
You better buy into my ponzi scheme or else...

I really recommend ADN-075 , to me , its really a good indication of a combination of reluctance combined with artful distress.

And also a very good indicator of actress sophistication is the forced blowjob in forced movies. While she said no no , once the pants is down , immediately she open her mouth. Eh....

Comparatively after u watch ADN-075 , try

RBD 703 starring Yui Hatano
http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=rbd703


Urm yep she is pretty all right and good body , well there is some light resistances to be fair and I chose the most bland SS , but frankly the resistance level seem more suitable for a scene like someone being drugged with aphrodisiac and trying to grapple whether to have sex or not even if its wrong scenario. But basically that SS summarise how i felt about the movie. Watch it to see what I meant.

Another low sophistication but very pretty actress imo is Misuzu Tachibana.

I saw her in http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=adn065.

She is really quite pretty imo to me , but however thats all about it.



She is even more 1 Dimensional than Yui Hatano , in fact in the 2 movies I saw her in she only got this >.< face , minimum body and facial expressions in regardless in whatever situation she is in. This is a very calm woman in the most hated situations.

Not sure if I can convey reluctance sophistication correctly when i post this, i guess there really much more to it , but generally I guess this what can be put to words. But like leebar say , my perceptions may be different of another person level or idea of artful or appropriate reluctance. So I guess its more of a personal opinion than a "this should be right way" to do it.