Western Porn Bringing JAV to Mind, and How Well They Succeed

Motiman

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Another lovely post from Motiman; if he were a woman, he would be any guy's dream, because he continues to put out here on Akiba-Online..

(My heart really went out to Motiman when I followed his link... look at all of the trouble he went to, attempting to translate from the Chinese.)

(I also give Motiman credit for analyzing the savage type of porn that I don't believe is his usual cup of tea... judging by how turned off he was to the scene in MALENA I provided screen shots for, which he criticized a few posts back as being "dark and harrowing.")

What prompted me to yap was in case anyone wished to track down the movie he brought up, Savage Father - Daughter Who Had Been Adopted at the Age of 12 [FAD-1324], with Ami Kawashima, Mina Manabe, Kyoko Kazami, Yuko Tachibana (Asian Screens also lists "Akira Sakurai," perhaps an alias for one of the first four names), its "FAX" counterpart turned out to be FAX-213. (Screen shots)

Yes, unfortunately there is no one place to go that lists both FAD and FAX "DVD" codes for the same movie. I mean, look; when I went out searching, I came upon both codes for the next one in the FAD line, FAD-1325, which also goes by FAX-247. If FAD-1325 is also FAX-247, it stands to reason FAD-1324 should be FAX-246, right? (It's "math." You subtract one.) But, NO! I sentence you to damnation, FA-PRO!

Motey sang the praises of this fine company, and I agree, some of their movies are just plain wonderful. But many are "heavy" as well, and you've got to be in the mood. Regardless, one must be impressed, because FA-PRO movies have "heart."

Since I'm belching out words, permit two FA-PRO digressions. As I was stumbling about trying to find the FAX code for FAD-1324 and ran into FAD-1325/FAX-247, I came across these screen shots, and I liked this lady:

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I do not know who the actress is, but I took a liking to her face. The movie is entitled, Life Spectrum Theater - A Wife Who… is Caught Thieving While Having a Period, is Run Ragged Drunk, Cannot Cope Unless She Gets It Everyday, is Caught Selling Her Body, starring Maria Tamaki, Yukari Asamiya, Kyoko Kazami and Yui ... no doubt she is one of those four names.

One of the heartwarming aspects for FA-PRO is that it's like (or used to be during the spoken-of period, 2009-10) an ensemble company, the same actors appearing over and over. (Look, Kyoko Kazami was also in the other movie we are talking about.) And this brings me to my second FA-PRO digression; as I was clicking the Asian Screens screen shots for one FA-PRO movie after the other, I became blisteringly aware of the same male actor faces in each of these titles. We are primarily talking about these guys.

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No point trying to figure out the DVD code system for Fa-pro as it does seem a complete mystery. I'm guessing but i think it's to do with having two different codes for their digital and physical releases but i may be wrong.

Just to confuse things even further i'm going to add that i made those subtitles using FAX-073 which is where the Chinese subtitles came from. If anyone is interested i will post the full sub file that i did but i can't guarantee it's accuracy as i ended up guessing half the time given just how bad the machine translation was at times. :confused:

Thanks for the list of actors too. It's always good to be able to put a name to the face although i'm sure i'll very quickly forget. ;) I'm sure you'll be glad to know they still pretty much use the same actors even now. :rolleyes:

Looks like the name of the actor from my latest translation project is up there too. Good old Yoshikazu Kōno puts in a great performance there. He sure is well suited to playing the dirty old man role. :D
 

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vincent_z

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I must admit it is extremely interesting to read about these movies during the so called 'golden age of porn'. It's clear that more emphasis was put on the story and sex was delivered in bite size explosive portions to make sure that there was enough time to ensure the story was told. Of course these days it is the opposite where we see that sex scene take up far more time then that given to story.

Unfortunately, it's quite clear the film makers didn't quite have the budget to produce a high quality piece of work, and more often than not the performers hired were clearly not there for their acting abilities, as the whole thing just comes across as quite cheap. Also the sex scenes, as well as being too short, are just a confused mess with not enough direction clearly.

Now this is only a general feeling from only a short viewing of a fraction of the movies available from the time but i feel that maybe you had to be watching these movies at the time to truly appreciate their value. I wish i had more time to properly give them a watch but i feel right now that age has really hurt these movies and really fail to do anything for me sadly.

Perhaps i've been a little too negative because i do want to say that the scene that you described vincent does have it's moments. I have to say my favourite bit is when he is toying with her using his knife before cutting her underwear away. There is a genuine sense of dread coming from the actress as he slowly slides the point of the knife up and down her body which does make it quite exciting to watch. Perhaps the implied homosexuality was also there to further the excitement despite the fact that it was clearly a woman but it does show that the film makers those days were pushing the boundaries those days.

The only JAV studio that has done something similar in my eyes is Fa-Pro. They are one of my favourite studios as they do put so much emphasis on story and drama as well as pushing the boundaries of taste and legality as they often feature r*** and incest a lot in their movies. In fact i have just remembered that in FAD-1324 they had a story that featured homosexuality as well as r*** and incest, as a landlord(?) terrorizes a mother and her two teenage children. The fact that the man is quite forceful and aggressive is quite shocking to see as he takes the young daughter over and over again. The final part in that movie is also great as a stepfather aggressively goes after his stepdaughter. I wrote about it here as i attempted to (poorly) translate it.

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If you're in the U.S.A., you might want to attend Cinema Wasteland when it occurs in October. If I'm there, I bring JAVs. I usually wind up trading them for vintage Euro pr0n, or Bill Zebub's "Soft-X" movies, with BDSM elements, and more importantly, good-looking young females who do get nude. October's expo will orbit around "The Evil Dead" (1981), and I shall be there.
 
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Motiman

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I was recently looking around the net and came across this movie that i haven't seen for years, but was glad to have done so as it is a genuine classic.

'The Voyeur' or 'L'uomo che guarda' to give it it's original Italian title is from the filthy mind of legendary erotic director Tinto Brass and is a classic tale of betrayal, lust, regret and sex as we see a man going through a seemingly difficult period in his marriage.

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His wife is at the centre of this movie and thankfully played by the absolutely stunning Katarina Vasilissa. This girl is truly stunning and we get to see her in all her glory as she parades through the movie in a number of scenes in all states of undress. :D

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http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1260207377

http://ancensored.com/clip/The-Voyeur_45/Katarina-Vasilissa/23589

There are a number of scenes that feature scenarios that although aren't exclusive to JAV, are executed well by them and feature often. They are also some of my favourite themes to as i have often written about on this forum.

The first scene i want to talk about is a restaurant scene early in the movie. Rather aptly, it just so happens to take place in a Japanese restaurant too, and features our couple having a discussion over dinner. What i loved about this scene was the voyeuristic nature of the scene as we are put in the place of a Japanese gentleman sitting across from them, who just happens to have a lovely view of them, or more importantly, underneath their table.


Playing up to the 'under table' genre that we see so often played in JAV, the scene is brilliantly directed as we see constant glimpses and flashes of her under the table as the letch spies her from across the room. His gaze is not unnoticed by Katarina and at first she is quick to cover herself up so as not to expose herself. Her initial reserved nature just sets the scene perfectly as it shows her giving a quite normal response. She's not just some ravenous slut, wanting to expose herself to everyone and anyone, and it is also something we see in JAV when the actress will almost always shy away from showing herself off in this type of position.

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Her attitude soon changes though, brought about by the fact that their conversation becomes more disagreeable, and she is clearly no longer inhibited to hide herself no more, giving our voyeur a lovely view. The fact that he does the old 'dropped my tissue' routine to get a better look is even better as the ol' pervert gets down lower for a better view. :p

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The whole scene is just so naughty and erotic, giving us the perfect little glimpses that i'm sure we all fantasize about when sitting in a restaurant and noticing a beautiful woman nearby. It's just something we can all relate to and this scene plays it out perfectly. :) There are so many examples in JAV too but i can't recall one which played out exactly like this which is disappointing because it would be all kinds of awesome.

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Later in the movie, we see the couple in a movie theatre as they continue to discuss their fractured relationship. The conversation is centred on the fact that she is having an affair and he must know who it is. He becomes quite confrontational, much to the amusing annoyance of the other cinema goers, and so she obliges him with the details of the affair. As she does though, she also starts to take charge and begins to caress and grope him. The guy is quite turned on by it all as you can imagine and is happy to listen to her as she strokes his cock, while also getting to feel her exposed pussy also, before she ends up going down on him. :oops: The reaction of the woman behind is also a great as she is clearly enjoying the action herself. :p

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Again, there are lots of examples in JAV although they almost always tend to be of the molester genre and it's rare to see one where a couple are engaging in the activity at a cinema theatre. The fact that it is taking place in a public area is what gives it the erotic factor and knowing that people can discover them is what makes it so risky and so much more enjoyable too.

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Lastly, i guess the final scene in the movie counts given the abundant father in law movies there are, another favourite genre of mine, and we see the husband's paranoia that his father is his wife's lover get the better of him as he imagines the two of them together. The scene takes place as husband and wife are again making love while she recalls how she first slept with her lover. This time it was on their wedding day as she tells of how her lover took her from behind while she could see her husband from the window above.

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This really was a sexy scene as we see how she describes the encounter in detail while they are making love, which brings about the fantasy in his mind, and the fact that it really spurs him on and gets him to fuck her harder. A really strong netorare feeling was given off by this movie and the final culmination of the movie with this scene was a real pleasure. The scene with the father too as he takes her quite roughly in her wedding dress was one erotic scene indeed! :oops:

I really advise you guys to check it out, it's not hard to find online and for me was an instant classic for the number of scenes that i have described. All the elements came together to end up with one hell of a movie and one that was quite JAV like in it's nature, a feature that i think a lot of Italian directors were great at. Porn studios such as Salieri were great in the 90's and early 2000's in giving us these great story led movies and it saddens me that they no longer do that.
 

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Myuki Son/Sun
Japanese girl working in EU porn industry and making us very happy!
This is her latest work - Black Meat in A Sushi Dish - made in a Japanese fashion (hairdo, kimono, food play).
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Date of Birth: April 22, 1987 (29 years old)
Place of Birth: Hiroshima
Country of Origin: Japan
Career Status: Active
Eye Color: Green
Hair Color: Blonde
Measurements: 34C-24-35
Fake Boobs: No
Piercings: Navel
Tattoos: Left pubes; six small shapes right pubes; "Kiss Me" back of the neck; fairy back right shoulder.
She also did bukkake scenes for one EU site. A lot of cocks make her smile:
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Feeeet! :cool:
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vincent_z

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I'm reviving this thread because I believe I have happened upon a JAV which comes (whoops) very close to the imagery depicted in "Expensive Tastes".
It is one I bought at a Don Quijote in Osaka when there for Flyertalk forum's "Japan Do! #4" in March.
It is "President's Wife Hall of Shame Juice Shihori Tsuado" [HNB-026]. It was one of the six JAVs repackaged for KANZ-096, but now it had been removed from that case and placed in a small, CD-sized cardboard sleeve containing ten Star Paradise JAVs.
Shihori Endo is the wife of a company president. It is established that she is a bitchy type used to the 'good life'.
The plot point which turns around the movie is the company is downsizing, laying off long-time employees. These middle-aged men are not happy about this and they decide to seek personal revenge.
Three of them gain entry to the mansion where Shihori and her husband live, and it gets pretty graphic quite soon.
Again, a high spot for movies / videos / JAVs like this is being surprised / shocked by what is depicted. So I'll just list these items of interest:
  • Rough play
  • BDSM
  • Homoerotic activity
  • Humiliation
  • Insult
  • No condoms
I was truly surprised by how far this JAV went. It was so startling that I spurted while watching this.
I'm wondering how many of the other HNB videos in this 10-pack are similarly scripted. (They are
  • HNB-028
  • HNB-029
  • HNB-035
  • HNB-039
  • HNB-045
) You might want to look out for them.
 
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jugulear

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A great post! Although... given that the prior post was earlier this month, I dunno if this thread was a candidate for "revival"; I know sometimes I've gone back in the archives to breathe life into threads that hadn't seen action in years (for the heck of it), so a thread has to be pretty much dead before resuscitation enters the picture. (Guess I'm troubled by even the hint that this thread was "dead," 'cause I like this fabulous thread and would rather not have cobwebs forming on it!)

And Vincent_z deserves great thanks for not only directing attention to this thread once again, but for composing such a wonderful post.

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The 2009 movie features a bunch of familiar faces, including Beerbelly. (At left.)

I see I had once downloaded HNB-026, but have no memory of it. I look forward to digging it up again; not only does the movie star the fabulous Shihori Endo, but it looks like the kind of JAV that doesn't pull punches... the kind I like.



If anyone is intrigued about the honorable mentions, I did check them out:


The Beautiful and Bad Wife [HNB-028], starring Chiyuki Makimoto (Yuki Tsukamoto)
Married to a millionaire, wife Chiyuki to enjoy the elegant living in the superabundant assets. Contrary to its good looks, Kokitsukai the people in the jaw, was a super-bad wife to or doing as much of the young man and infidelity in the secret to her husband! Secret conspiracy of such Chiyuki ... it is possible to fit in all the property and murdered in Naki illegality means the husband hands! However, one day the conspiracy is uncovered, the proud faces distorted heartbreaking! Is Chiyuki to 淫絶 become revenge drama from have oppressed the people who ...!



929 MB download

Apartment Wife Seen by Peeping [HNB-029], starring Yui Igawa
"Because I like the lady, I like all of the lady from unbearable like I've been raised to observe 24 hours a day ...!" Paranoid affection gradually management of appearance defunct 淫視 line ... surveillance monitor over contaminating the everyday erode the human mind aim peeping a beautiful wife. Nothing Married Yui, which had sent a happy family life without knowing. It started happening one day in succession is inexplicable events in the boundary, and ....

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Mother-in-law's Young Wife Oppression [HNB-035], starring Erina and Kyoko Kanzaki
Hana靡 label's first married woman insult lesbian work finally appeared! Originality full of lesbian r*** drama to draw a forbidden relationship of Yomeshuto is a must-see! Mother pick on the new wife EiRina each time a certain thing, Kyoko! Awkward on the back of the relationship between the daughter-in-law mother-in-law frustrated can not be coming out that would excited every time to see the daughter-in-law of the body and immoral feeling had been hidden in the inner! Meanwhile, her husband is transfiguration is mother-in-law Kyoko of attitude becomes a bachelor!


Unpleasant Female Boss [HNB-039], starring Risa Okamoto

Beautiful boss-of 莉紗 was merry of the joining Among first. To her arrogant outrage Yuku been exposed, our subordinates Yuku growing increasingly day-to-day stress. When the anger has reached the apex, they are turned into a beast, whale on 莉紗. The ultimate insult the video of Hana 靡 unique to humiliate high career woman of pride is a must-see!

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405 MB download

Targeted Apartment Complex Wife [HNB-045], starring Misa Yuki
Figure defunct 淫視 line defile the day-to-day .... Paranoid affection of monitoring the monitor over the aim looking through the erosion and beautiful wife the heart of the young man gradually. Nothing Housewife had sent a happy family life without knowing Misa. It started happening one day in succession is inexplicable events in the boundary, and .... Welcomed Misa Yuki with a neat and pretty atmosphere in the starring actress, familiar to some urban darkness your own point of view in the gouging take Hana 靡 specific Kitan supervision world deployment!



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Naturally, these are different movies with different plots, but I'm getting a good feeling for [HNB-028] as coming maybe somewhat close to -026. I'm feeling them similar vibes for [HNB-039], too.

I like many of these HNB movies from six-seven years ago... many have grit. (And it appears we have not seen the last of them... HNB-099, with the stupendous Maki Hojo was released just a couple of months ago.)

Notice how Vincent_z mentioned these six movies as being part of KANZ-096, which is ten hours long. (Yes, six hundred minutes. Whew.)

Looks like there has been a spate of these KANZ movies released last year (and this year), each probably around the same length. If you feel like investigating the HNB movies each has featured, simply look at the back cover. (For example, here are the covers for KANZ-090; see how they list HNB-001, 002, -004, -005, -006 and -007. Which raises the important question... why did they leave out poor -003?)

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vincent_z

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The aspect for those outside (or even inside) Japan is that Star Paradise JAVs seem to be the house brand at Don Quijote stores. The catch is that not every Don Quijote has JAVs {I have never found any at the store in Shinjuku near Kabukicho. But yes, I have found them at the store in Shibuya, and there was that time when the one in Akihabara had a bunch.} There were a number of KANZ compilations I did not buy because I didn't catch on to what was the theme of the box set. I could really use somebody who knows Japanese the next time I shop at Donki. :confused:
 

jugulear

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A favorite JAV of mine is Escaped Prisoner [SHKD-659], starring Chitose Hara, and here is one spot where I had written about it. A lot of things make it work, including the wonderful actress.

I'm not too crazy about "straight r***" movies, where an unknown criminal forces himself upon the victim. The reason why SHKD-659 worked for me was the psychological element, enabling the criminal to have his way on the lady repeatedly, even though the lady had ample opportunity to rid herself of the assailant. The coup de grace is that the situation goes so far, the lady winds up bearing the child of her r**ist... and the unsuspecting husband thinks the baby is his.

The core of the idea is nothing new, where the bad man weasels his way into an abode and has his way with the woman within. For example, there is an "Intruder" sub-series buried within R18's larger series, which they have called, "Fucked In Front Of Her Husband." One is SHKD-424 (Intruder 10, where the bad man is Tenant — YAY!), and I'm now reading the victim gets pregnant at the end with that one, as well. (General screen shots from this source.) Others from this sub-series include Intruder 03, or SHKD-285, Intruder 04, or SHKD-307 and Intruder 11, or SHKD-430.

Another ATTACKERS series is called Open Window Intruder, for which R18 had provided a series page for, calling the series "Aggressor."

So you get the idea; this theme is not hard to find in JAV. There are others, such as Gang r*** Humiliation - Young Married Woman Who Was Violated By Intruders [PGD-589] starring Nina, Intruder X Targeted Two Company-Housing Wives [JUC-417] with Rio Hamasaki and Nao Mizuki and r*** Mother and Daughter [YUBA-09] with Mari Akikawa and Miho Kawai. NATURAL HIGH has an excellent series which plays upon the psychological factor mentioned with our first example: An Intruder's Hiding... But She Can't Tell Anybody - Wife is Forced to Endure Shameful Play til Her Family Goes to Sleep, beginning with NHDTA-454.

You can't find this theme with American porn.

Well... you can, if you go back to the old days. One was Expensive Tastes (1978), which Vincent_z was kind enough to let us in on three months ago. Vince went so far as to write, "Despite all the JAVs in this genre which I have viewed, none of them have yet matched or surpassed that of the U.S.-shot (San Francisco) explicit pr0n."

That's big, huh? The U.S. variety of this type of porn is rare, and one may have even outshone the many JAVs of this genre, in terms of achieving reality.

I may have found another one. (I haven't downloaded or watched it yet.) The movie sounds so promising, however, I am jumping the gun to let you in on it.

The Intrusion (1975) ... (A.K.A. Forced Entry 2)

What swayed me was this intelligent IMDb review by Lor.

Intense, Unrelenting Study of Bondage/r***
... Worthwhile as an example of single-minded, riveting hardcore porn devoted to a subject that cannot really be treated adequately by mainstream cinema... THE INTRUSION makes it work by carefully taking care of business and not diverting with filler or comic relief... The banality of evil is a familiar theme, well-executed here... The two leads are terrific... Electronic music score is used jarringly to maintain a sense of unease throughout.

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A detailed review for the DVD. ●●●●●Screen shots ●●●●●.

One way you may be able to get this is through the stubborn site Streamin.to; looking at this post of mine from earlier this year, you can follow the trick that was outlined. Basically, go here (this was the original), right-click and "View Page Source," "Find" function ("CONTROL" + "F" keys) for "FLV." Copy that line ending with "flv" and beginning with "http," and you should be able to land this baby for 704 MB.


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Inertia

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Eventually all western porn will be like that skit from Chappelle's Show:

"
Prosecutor: Mr. Chappelle, what would it take to convince you that R. Kelly is guilty?
Dave Chappelle: Okay, I'd have to see a video of him singing "Pee On You," two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four or five of my buddies and Neal taking notes, and R. Kelly's grandma to confirm his identity.
R. Kelly's Grandma: That's my Robert, always peeing on people.
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Motiman

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Eventually all western porn will be like that skit from Chappelle's Show:

"
Prosecutor: Mr. Chappelle, what would it take to convince you that R. Kelly is guilty?
Dave Chappelle: Okay, I'd have to see a video of him singing "Pee On You," two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four or five of my buddies and Neal taking notes, and R. Kelly's grandma to confirm his identity.
R. Kelly's Grandma: That's my Robert, always peeing on people.
"

I wish i was more up to date with popular culture and knew what the hell you were talking about. Off to google 'chappelle's show' and 'R Kelly pissing on people'.
 
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For such as entrepreneurial country like the US , it is hard to believe that not a single financier has thought of investing in some plot based porn production company like you see in the JAV arena - such an endeavour would rake in huge profits !
 

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For such as entrepreneurial country like the US , it is hard to believe that not a single financier has thought of investing in some plot based porn production company like you see in the JAV arena - such an endeavour would rake in huge profits !
Call me shortsighted, but with all the major online sites producing 30 minutes quick and done content with little dialogue, I can't imagine too much of a market for it. Used to be XXX theaters with feature length movies with plots, but home video killed it. Just ask Jackie Treehorn.
 

vincent_z

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Yeah, it's a shame, but all depictions of r*** seem to be have outlawed in mainstream western porn. It's not just US porn but European stuff too. You will still find it but it's mostly very amateur.
They have not been outlawed, but when the Attorney General's Report on Pornography {commonly known as 'The Meese Commission'} was published in 1986, it was excoriating about pr0n movies which combined violence with sex. The U.S. pr0n society decided to self-censor itself and not produce any more movies like "Expensive Tastes", "The Intrusion", and "The Farmer's Daughters" (with Spaulding Gray :D).
 

Motiman

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Yes, and it's not just r*** that's taboo but the whole Loli genre seems to be a very controversial subject. Now i'm not a big fan of the genre but i will admit it has it's gems and the actresses who appear can seem so enticing that it's hard to resist. There are plenty of schoolgirl based porn movies in the west but they are always filmed in a way that makes the girls seem more grown up, whereas in JAV, the purpose remains to make them seem as young as they can get away with. And you certainly wouldn't ever find the P word anywhere near a movie in the US, but in Japan there's no such problem clearly.

My fear is that the increased attention towards Japan in the run up to their Olympics may have an effect on the AV and Manga industry, as the number of international news agencies ramp up their pressure.
 
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Motiman: the 'p' word is part of R18's translation of the title. I'm not sure why they opted to use the 'p' word. The Japanese used is 'rorikon' aka "Lolita Complex". 'P' (not sure if the word's banned here, but whatever) in Japanese is 小児愛者 (shouniaisha) aka 'one who loves children'. Maybe instead of the 'p' word they could of inserted the phrase like 'my (step?) father has a sick/perverted fascination with youth blah blah blah'

vincent_z: right on the money! Harder themes like r*** and scat are not outlawed in USA. You CAN make them if you want. The problem is you'll find no way to take payment for them outside of pretty much people sending you cash in the mail. Credit card companies won't touch it. Banks would drop your business account/merchant account as well. Why? Obscenity. They (banks, credit card companies) do not want to be sued by all those religious organizations that the US has. If there ever was a way to make it so you couldn't sue for obscenity, you'll see it become easier to produce these types of content in USA. I hate the issue and I hate how it's essentially proscribed. I'm against real r*** of course, but I don't find the need to enforce what consenting adults can do on a film set. There's already r*** and extreme violence in major motion pictures (Human Centipede anyone?) yet what porn producers in the west are unable to do drives me bonkers.
 

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Yea I gave up on USA porn a while ago. It's just fucking trash. Not that there isn't good porn being made. I really like the sloppy over the top gagging scenes they make in the USA. Only studio I really enjoy is Evil Angel, they make quality stuff. But in general most studios/directors in the USA don't capture the amount of eroticism and the perversion that I am into. Most consumers of this stuff are so used to the fast food style 20-30 minute scene. It's pretty basic shit. The laws are retarded. It's sad because I think the USA (for the most part) does a great job when it comes to free speech, except for some reason when it's sexual its a big no no. Pisses me off!
 
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princeali692: it's not the laws. Legally USA is even freer with porn than Japan. It's more of banks and card companies fear of lawsuits over 'obscenity' that has made western porn so tame. Want to blame someone? Blame far right religious organizations with too much free time led by people who definitely have a lot of creepy files on their computer (those most against porn generally are hiding some sick fetishes or representing those that do IMO).