I will fight evil people...
I guess you haven't heard of the Spetznaz...I can take care of myself against these Yakuza.
I guess you haven't heard of the Spetznaz...I can take care of myself against these Yakuza.
Yakuza
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If you are a self-healing cyborg or a robo-warrior, then sure. Otherwise, there's only so many bullets you can take before one of them pierces a vulnerability in your armor. Last I checked, the neck was still quite exposed -- 'cause you can't encase it without limiting range of head motion, which in turn limits range of vision.
You mean if I:
...?
That all depends on who they were beating up. If it was friend or family, emotion would probably overtake me because I am not a trained combatant and I would rush in head-long trying to save them and get beat up or killed myself. If it was a stranger, I would back away and assess the situation -- "did they (the yakuza) see me or not?" -- and either hide until they left (if I thought they saw me and I couldn't risk running on foot b/c I'd make too much noise and get caught and killed) or would start to walk away and then run away and then immediately call the police on my cell phone.
Why? Because I'm not a trained fighter -- but even if I was, I know about the wisdom in "picking one's battles." It's not honorable to rush in to save someone only to get yourself killed. You do more honor to that person if you can survive long enough to have the authorities rush to the scene, apprehend the bad guys, and take them to justice. Even if that means not rushing forward and shielding them with your own body from their attackers.
Personal opinion. I'm sure you might think this is cowardly, but like I said, I don't see the point in us both dying when one of us (me) could live and call the cops and get these crooks put behind bars. If we both die, the bad guys get away with murder (literally). If one of us lives, then maybe there's a chance for justice to reign supreme.
My point simply was, you can't expect me take you seriously if you're saying you could defeat 5+ armed men because of your knowledge in Russian martial arts. In a real life-or-death situation, people aren't nice, people don't play by the rules, and the most skilled don't always come out on top. You ever see Indiana Jones & the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Yeah: remember the scene where Indy shoots the man brandishing a scimitar? Yeah. That's what happens when Bruce Lee goes charging into an alley where two yakuza are kicking an old Japanese man while several other Yakuza scout the area to make sure the cops aren't coming. Bruce goes in, maybe he gets a few good kicks and punches off, and then he's shot multiple times by the scouts. Just isn't very practical to saving lives. :\ It's much better to bring in the cops:
a) who scare the yakuza away, and therefore keep the yakuza from further beating up the poor old man
b) who can take the old man to a hospital to receive treatment for his wounds (could you do that? could you get him to the hospital quickly even if you managed to dispose of 5+ thugs? You showed up on foot! You don't have a car! It'll take you 15, maybe 30 minutes! The old man could die by then!)
c) who can pursue the yakuza on foot or by police chase and hopefully catch them
hello sakunyuusha!
Yes, Assess the situation first and act accordingly. You are correct my friend!
Yeah I remember Indiana Jones shot the man who is skilled at wielding a scimitar.(what a waste of skill)
Maybe I can take down 5+ yakuza should I rush in. but from that point onward it will be difficult to deal with them.
should I be successful in keeping the yakuza at bay and saving the oppressed person. I will still be arrested by the authorities and probably deported.
The best option is to cooperate with the cops.
Acting alone against the yakuza is somewhat risky.
Hey, have you watched the movie "wasabe" starred by french actor jean reno and japanese actress ryoko hirosue. They really kicked yakuza asses. I wonder what the yakuza felt when they watched the movie.
And, are the yakuza skilled in tactical combat like those with navy seals, British SAS and Russian Spetznaz? I think not. They are just thugs. I can take 5 or more of them providing that it is hand to hand combat. however if it is a gunfight. well i'll try take as much cover as I can get.
Big Salute my friend! anyway where you from?
Yes, Assess the situation first and act accordingly. You are correct my friend!
Yeah I remember Indiana Jones shot the man who is skilled at wielding a scimitar.(what a waste of skill)
Maybe I can take down 5+ yakuza should I rush in. but from that point onward it will be difficult to deal with them.
should I be successful in keeping the yakuza at bay and saving the oppressed person. I will still be arrested by the authorities and probably deported.
The best option is to cooperate with the cops.
Acting alone against the yakuza is somewhat risky.
Hey, have you watched the movie "wasabe" starred by french actor jean reno and japanese actress ryoko hirosue. They really kicked yakuza asses. I wonder what the yakuza felt when they watched the movie.
And, are the yakuza skilled in tactical combat like those with navy seals, British SAS and Russian Spetznaz? I think not. They are just thugs. I can take 5 or more of them providing that it is hand to hand combat. however if it is a gunfight. well i'll try take as much cover as I can get.
Big Salute my friend! anyway where you from?
Nice to know you!
Very nice introduction sakunyuusha! A hentai fan I see.
Oh from US?
Anyway warm greetings from Moscow my distant friend.
Oh and one more thing, if those Yakuza mess with us and don't play by the rules
I'll bring a T-90 tank and run over their sorry asses. Lol just kidding!
Very nice introduction sakunyuusha! A hentai fan I see.
Oh from US?
Anyway warm greetings from Moscow my distant friend.
Oh and one more thing, if those Yakuza mess with us and don't play by the rules
I'll bring a T-90 tank and run over their sorry asses. Lol just kidding!
Brigada Specialistnavoy... hmmm T-90... naaaah more like Boyevaya moto pichota isnt it...?
Interesting topic indeed, since I spent the better partof a year looking out for you guys in blue and white
Far across the horizon back then.
Anyway... we have a similar background and thought process, although I'm getting to old for the gungho stuff now.
All in all I think it suffices to say, the Yakuza are what they are, and come times of peril, nationalism and local / regional thinking is in the human nature by default.
I guess we have, as a species, always been territorial, and we're still a far shot away from the optinal level one civilization depicted in Star Trek.
Interesting topic indeed, since I spent the better partof a year looking out for you guys in blue and white
Far across the horizon back then.
Anyway... we have a similar background and thought process, although I'm getting to old for the gungho stuff now.
All in all I think it suffices to say, the Yakuza are what they are, and come times of peril, nationalism and local / regional thinking is in the human nature by default.
I guess we have, as a species, always been territorial, and we're still a far shot away from the optinal level one civilization depicted in Star Trek.
OK, I've got to get in on this because idiocy is flying left, right and center.
1) Yakuza are NOT noble. They are a street-gang mafia just like any other
2) Yakuza are NOT happy-happy-time people, they are assholes
3) Most of the useless cops in Tokyo and Yokohama don't even bother dealing with someone who's Yakuza because the cops know they'll stir up even more shit (don't believe me? Hang out in Shibuya for a while and see how the cops react when Yakuza harass street vendors that haven't paid the gang for their 'sidewalk rights')
4) No Sergei, I do not think you could take on 5 Yak's at once. Sorry man, I like you, but I don't like ego's bigger than mine.
5) If you DO think you can take on five Yakuza, then I certainly hope your chest is knife and tazer-proof (both of which are sold at numerous private security stores around Tokyo)
6) Most onsens prohibit all tattoos of any fashion. My buddy had to wear a skin-colored band-aid to get into the onsens we visited in Izu because he had a small Canadian flag on his shoulder-blade, so this also goes for the Yakuza
OK, I'm done. Goodnight.
1) Yakuza are NOT noble. They are a street-gang mafia just like any other
2) Yakuza are NOT happy-happy-time people, they are assholes
3) Most of the useless cops in Tokyo and Yokohama don't even bother dealing with someone who's Yakuza because the cops know they'll stir up even more shit (don't believe me? Hang out in Shibuya for a while and see how the cops react when Yakuza harass street vendors that haven't paid the gang for their 'sidewalk rights')
4) No Sergei, I do not think you could take on 5 Yak's at once. Sorry man, I like you, but I don't like ego's bigger than mine.
5) If you DO think you can take on five Yakuza, then I certainly hope your chest is knife and tazer-proof (both of which are sold at numerous private security stores around Tokyo)
6) Most onsens prohibit all tattoos of any fashion. My buddy had to wear a skin-colored band-aid to get into the onsens we visited in Izu because he had a small Canadian flag on his shoulder-blade, so this also goes for the Yakuza
OK, I'm done. Goodnight.
Agree completely...
On point 6, thats what I believe I did say too, though some onsen do allow it.
Very few and far in between and you have to know someone who knows someone and so on...
One American guy got himself a tattoo in Japan, and he spent a lot of time on two trips getting it done.On his last stay in Japan they invited him to one of these onsens, and he got a very special visit very few ever will have the chance to get. Unfortunately I canot recall the link to his little blog on the topic but it was quite interesting reading.
And dont for a second assume (to all others) that you'll be able to scoot over to Japan to get a tat. I bet it would take a massive amount of work to even get remotely close to one of the "original" tat parlors if you want proper work done.
LMFAO, you were the one doing most of the "the yakuza are so nice ^-^" talk!!!!!!
Yakuza: Japan's FEMA
Yakuza: Japan's Noble Landlords
Yakuza: Japan's Modern-Day Samurai
Sergei got confused, I got confused, and it took aquamarine to straighten things out. And your response is ... "I agree completely" !?!?!?!?!?
:donotwant:
OK so I have to set the record straight then since it seems a few people got seriously confused.
I never said they where Japans FEMA, but that was a clear consequence of the fact they where first on the scene because noone could make it in... quite understandably so to anyone who has been in a serious deep in the muck situation where true confusion takes over.
Secondly, I clearly stated on this issue that IF they had NNOT done this, they would not hold true to thier own statement in Meiji to giri, thus being ndebted to a region they REAPED the benefits of. (Hence the Meiji to giri again with putting the people back in the hot seat of being "indebted" which surely is not the same as honor or being noble in any way)
In other words, painting themselves into a corner, and naturally in an immediate extension, by helping out, they did make sure they got som personal further benefits by getting on a "good side" with people they did help back then.
I also never stated they where Modern day samurai.
What I did clearly say was that many samurai in the old days who where left without a "reason to exist" turned down this route, and there are historical facts behind this reasoning as well. A very good book on the topic of Samurai history is the book "Secrets of the Samurai" (and no I dont mean the martial arts study but the historical reflections book written by a university doctorate in Japanese History)
One thing we all know further contributed to the expansion of the Yakuza was the severe depression after the second world war, where these groups gained further strength. Something which is proven by many other countries same experiences during and immediately after times of war, or severe depressions.
The organized crime in the US took an upswing after the depression years, although they where already on a strong forefront due to prohibition and many other reasons.
In Italy it was the strength gained due to opression and strict rule, in particular in areas like Palermo and Sicilly, where rural areas landed under strict opression from government officials and land owners.
In south America the military Junta is just seeming to appear as an extension to this alternative and it seems to role back and forth between the regular people being squeezed between a rock and damned hard place.
In russia, after the fall of the Soviet union, former KGB officials get tossed to th winds, and with their experience they enter into these organizations with excessive force, and make themselves a future under new rules.
So why would the Yakuza be much more different?
Further more, I never said the Yakuza where all out good guys or all out bad guys.We all know Yajkuza, Mafia, La cosa nostra, Triads or whatever you call them at various locations in th world are evil bastards and I clearly stated that in my further comparison to things I know for a fact occurred in Malaysia for example.
I think the utter notion to believe I stated they where semi toddling good guys in any way was outterly outrageous to begin with and to believe anything different is quite apparently a matter of self delusion.
I also quite clearly stated that the fictional depictions of any criminal elemtns in video, movies, tv or books are quite far from reality and in real life, humans are more grim and evil than fantasy show casts can depict, or should I say dare depict.
If you have seen the Japanese movie "Ko-gal's" for instance, you should know the Yakuza where not to danr happy about that movie being released, depicting quite frankly more than had been shown before about how high school girls often fall into the hands of less desirable elements, be it organized crime or occassional perverts on the streets.
So no, I never said anything along the lines of them being saints, and for all I care in my own thinking, human-kind is far from kind in general.
I hope this clarifies this issue from my side.
so to Aquamarine for his blatant clarity on the subject, I clearly agree!
I never said they where Japans FEMA, but that was a clear consequence of the fact they where first on the scene because noone could make it in... quite understandably so to anyone who has been in a serious deep in the muck situation where true confusion takes over.
Secondly, I clearly stated on this issue that IF they had NNOT done this, they would not hold true to thier own statement in Meiji to giri, thus being ndebted to a region they REAPED the benefits of. (Hence the Meiji to giri again with putting the people back in the hot seat of being "indebted" which surely is not the same as honor or being noble in any way)
In other words, painting themselves into a corner, and naturally in an immediate extension, by helping out, they did make sure they got som personal further benefits by getting on a "good side" with people they did help back then.
I also never stated they where Modern day samurai.
What I did clearly say was that many samurai in the old days who where left without a "reason to exist" turned down this route, and there are historical facts behind this reasoning as well. A very good book on the topic of Samurai history is the book "Secrets of the Samurai" (and no I dont mean the martial arts study but the historical reflections book written by a university doctorate in Japanese History)
One thing we all know further contributed to the expansion of the Yakuza was the severe depression after the second world war, where these groups gained further strength. Something which is proven by many other countries same experiences during and immediately after times of war, or severe depressions.
The organized crime in the US took an upswing after the depression years, although they where already on a strong forefront due to prohibition and many other reasons.
In Italy it was the strength gained due to opression and strict rule, in particular in areas like Palermo and Sicilly, where rural areas landed under strict opression from government officials and land owners.
In south America the military Junta is just seeming to appear as an extension to this alternative and it seems to role back and forth between the regular people being squeezed between a rock and damned hard place.
In russia, after the fall of the Soviet union, former KGB officials get tossed to th winds, and with their experience they enter into these organizations with excessive force, and make themselves a future under new rules.
So why would the Yakuza be much more different?
Further more, I never said the Yakuza where all out good guys or all out bad guys.We all know Yajkuza, Mafia, La cosa nostra, Triads or whatever you call them at various locations in th world are evil bastards and I clearly stated that in my further comparison to things I know for a fact occurred in Malaysia for example.
I think the utter notion to believe I stated they where semi toddling good guys in any way was outterly outrageous to begin with and to believe anything different is quite apparently a matter of self delusion.
I also quite clearly stated that the fictional depictions of any criminal elemtns in video, movies, tv or books are quite far from reality and in real life, humans are more grim and evil than fantasy show casts can depict, or should I say dare depict.
If you have seen the Japanese movie "Ko-gal's" for instance, you should know the Yakuza where not to danr happy about that movie being released, depicting quite frankly more than had been shown before about how high school girls often fall into the hands of less desirable elements, be it organized crime or occassional perverts on the streets.
So no, I never said anything along the lines of them being saints, and for all I care in my own thinking, human-kind is far from kind in general.
I hope this clarifies this issue from my side.
so to Aquamarine for his blatant clarity on the subject, I clearly agree!
(sigh)
Now I'm homesick because of you buggers.
I want my mommy... I'm 14 after-all... (that's the age I said I was, right?)
Now I'm homesick because of you buggers.
I want my mommy... I'm 14 after-all... (that's the age I said I was, right?)
homesick? wtf... it has gotta be the lack of creamy chocolate that does that,
Lets all chip in for a big box of cadbury's for aquamarine
O hear its been six months since the last salmonella recall for them so it should be safe...not to mention it snowed like crazy in half of england today so imagine norther Canada.
(gimmie two more minutes and he'll forget being homesick for sure)
Lets all chip in for a big box of cadbury's for aquamarine
O hear its been six months since the last salmonella recall for them so it should be safe...not to mention it snowed like crazy in half of england today so imagine norther Canada.
(gimmie two more minutes and he'll forget being homesick for sure)
When the UK had the Cadbury's scare, I still ate mine anyway. lol
But if I got Cadbury's now I'd be a little more worried because of the melamine.
More pertinently? I bought two boxes of imported Koala's March days before the melamine story broke. And then a week later I saw Koala's March had been compromised. And days after that, all of the local stores pulled Koala's March from their Oriental shelf in the International food aisle. Which made me sad. But also made me laugh: because even without the melamine Koala's March has to be the most goddamn unhealthy per unit volume food on God's green earth. Those things add up to what, LESS than a cup of mashed meal and chocolate? And their caloric content is almost a full day's worth. Sick. (Why'd I buy them then? Just for fun, I eat one box maybe once a month or two. I mean, it is Koala's March, after all. lol)
But if I got Cadbury's now I'd be a little more worried because of the melamine.
More pertinently? I bought two boxes of imported Koala's March days before the melamine story broke. And then a week later I saw Koala's March had been compromised. And days after that, all of the local stores pulled Koala's March from their Oriental shelf in the International food aisle. Which made me sad. But also made me laugh: because even without the melamine Koala's March has to be the most goddamn unhealthy per unit volume food on God's green earth. Those things add up to what, LESS than a cup of mashed meal and chocolate? And their caloric content is almost a full day's worth. Sick. (Why'd I buy them then? Just for fun, I eat one box maybe once a month or two. I mean, it is Koala's March, after all. lol)
interesting!
Be it Yakuza or any other mafia and whatsoever, Evil is evil and they must be terminated.
by my skills, I will do my best to fight evil. Of course I'm not alone to fight these bad elements there are five of us. My makarov, my T-90 tank, my Ak-74 , and my favorite SVD dragunov sniper rifle.
I will march forward to vanquish evil.
these yakuza assholes are just simply unforgivable
I will ram all their mansions with my T-90 Tank. Even the latest RPG can not put a dent in my armor vehicle.
Be it Yakuza or any other mafia and whatsoever, Evil is evil and they must be terminated.
by my skills, I will do my best to fight evil. Of course I'm not alone to fight these bad elements there are five of us. My makarov, my T-90 tank, my Ak-74 , and my favorite SVD dragunov sniper rifle.
I will march forward to vanquish evil.
these yakuza assholes are just simply unforgivable
I will ram all their mansions with my T-90 Tank. Even the latest RPG can not put a dent in my armor vehicle.