The biggest misjudgement of feminist brainwashed western males with a make mummy proud complex is the conviction, that women would have to resort to prostitution (which AV & JAV industry is, no matter how one calls it) because they had no choice, they would fall through a grid, sort of ... There are ALWAYS options, not as interesting in terms of money (and in some cases maybe prestige). Matter of fact, aside from some far off place, where women are r***ing at gun point, women DECIDE to work as prostitutes. They could apply for cleaning the dishes in the brothel, but they CHOSE different.
What Happens to Japanese Porn Stars After They Retire? Inside the Mind of an AV Model
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The biggest misjudgement of feminist brainwashed western males with a make mummy proud complex is the conviction, that women would have to resort to prostitution (which AV & JAV industry is, no matter how one calls it) because they had no choice, they would fall through a grid, sort of ... There are ALWAYS options, not as interesting in terms of money (and in some cases maybe prestige). Matter of fact, aside from some far off place, where women are r***ing at gun point, women DECIDE to work as prostitutes. They could apply for cleaning the dishes in the brothel, but they CHOSE different.
Well ... I think I'm not assuming wrong most people coming here searching for porn, not to question this industry. And moral arguments aren't much apprecciated here anyway.
If one had a Japanese girlfriend and had some cultural experiences, one might though wonder about a lot of things going on in Japan. especially between the sexes. Following a report I heard yesterday, Japan has become the country with the lowest birthrate - aside from the Vatican, of course - followed by Germany. And after pondering some years now over this issue, I'm convinced that this also for a big part has got to do with the "professionalization" of intersexual relationships there.
I could quote some works on cultural history of Japan about how special the Japanese attitude of seperating the emotional and the physical is; I somehow suspect, this just cloakes a lack of an actual concept of love. So it has grown to become sort of mechanism - women selling their bodies, men buying them. And often don't stop after marriage.
But in this board, most users are absolute Japanophiles, and probably still not much over their 'teens. So I don't expect a discussion on this issue might lead to anywhere.
A one sided article written by the typical prude anglo-american with an agenda summed up at the end (stay away from the sex-business). I don't think it's any worse than any other business. There are people who live normal lives and there are people that get into trouble. Isn't it the same with other business, in any other job, no matter if you are in a managing position of a bank or if your are a cashier in a supermarket. People who live happy lifes and ppl who have many problems exist everywhere in society. Look at the "normal" actors from Holywood. They have probably even more problems in their lives than those AV-stars.
That is one of the lamest attempts at a racial slur I have ever heard.
Worse for who? you? These people are in the business of exploitation. Exploitation is not good. A synonym for exploitation is victimization which means to victimize. How does that even sound good. These businesses do not care about the people they employ only how much money they make them. After their employees short lived "career" there is no pension, they are discarded like yesterdays newspaper.
I enjoy porn on the average just as much as anyone else but their is no way in hell I would argue that it is a good or even sane career choice. Nor would I even imply that the people who run the industry are good honest people. I can not see how any reasonable argument to the contrary can even be logically attempted. I guess some people feel the need to justify themselves is the only reason I can think of but it just does not make for a good argument. A shallow and transparent argument at best is all it will ever manage.
I just to have among my friends an AV ex star on my old facebook, and she just to looks very happy with friends and her son 
I just to have among my friends an AV ex star on my old facebook, and she just to looks very happy with friends and her son
So that proofs what?
How is that racial? We all know how anglo-american media works. Reminds me of the pseudo interview Tyra Banks had with Sasha Grey.
So how is this any different from other jobs? How much does a company care about their employees? Most don't give a shit and fire you if they don't need you anymore.
If you think it's so bad then you better stop watching porn otherwise this is just a hyporcrisy. In my eyes, this business is not more honest or dishonest than other business. The women are grown ups and they can decide themselves what to do in their life. It's just that some people have to consider everything that connects sex and money as something bad. Porn industry is a leagal business in many countries and there are rules. If you want to tell me stories about poor exploited women in the sex industry I can tell you bad stories of "normal" workers as well, or stories of women from the sex industry that are sucessfull and live happy lifes.
I've oft' wondered how it is that such a quantity of amazingly attractive Japanese women end up making porn. You'd think there would be plenty of 'better' avenues to pursue.
Although, I once read "Sex is as natural to the Japanese as breathing".
The original article is rather lacking in detail.
Although, I once read "Sex is as natural to the Japanese as breathing".
The original article is rather lacking in detail.
Will explaining it to you really help? For giggles I will try:
You said, and I quote; "written by the typical prude anglo-american". That would be a racist and prejudicial statement because:
1. Americans are a very diverse people of different ethnic orgins and they do not all behave the same based on the color of their skin or their religious preferences.
2. People of different racial backgrounds also are anti-porn and anti-porn industry.
3. Not all anglo americans are prudes so they are therefore not typical. Some of them are actually in the porn industry.
4. Making any generalization based on race and/or religion is not only prejudicial and racist but it is idiotic. People are individuals and everyone acts different.
I guess it is normal for you to have to literally suck dick and take it up the ass where you work. Most jobs you just have to "bend over" metaphorically, just in case you didn't know.
If these women are willing to degrade themselves on camera for money I can't stop them. I might feel like watching it though. Nor do I have to think they are doing the right thing either because they aren't and you know it. They are wasting their lives instead of making something of them. Women are more than sexual objects and any woman who settles for that or think that she has to is cheating herself of who she could be and what she could offer society. That isn't an argument, it is just cold hard fact.
And if he took the 30 seconds it took to check out the articles author you can find that he's not American anyways. But don't let that stop your knee-jerk reaction to blame an American for anything you don't like.
I don't see how you would interprete 1-4 to be expressed in my sentence. When I say this was written by a prude anglo-american it doesn't mean that there are no non-prude anglo-americans and it also doesn't say anglo-americans are the only prude people in the world. But in my experience, a lot of articles written by anglo-americans go into the direction of "sex business is evil" and beeing "politically correct" is an english term.
Some just prostitute their bodies while others prostitute their minds in their jobs.
If you think about this business this way, you should stop watching porn, because you promote it if you continue to do so. If you encourage people to do something of which you think it is wrong but you want to benefit from it anyway, it is just hypocrisy. But instead of stopping to watch porn and avoiding the evil sex industry you just press the "thanks" button for that article to get rid of your guilty conscience - and go on downloading porn.
I think it is just a sentence to end the article and is meant in a more ironic and not totally serious way. So I have any problems with that.
And that the sex industry is not a safe place should be obvious - that is just some sentence to make the article longer. That the sex industry is not like the car or mobilephone industry should be common knowledge.
Somehow I can't follow that kind of argument / reasoning. So because these people have the same problems you think the sex business is like any other business? (No, that is not a rhetorical question)
Following your argument - doesn't that mean that the business of e.g. a contract killer is also a normal business? I mean also contract killers live normal lives, get into trouble, fell in love, get hungry, have problems with the payment behaviour of the clients, can have a burn-out, etc..
About the author: Most of the article consists of quotes from Atsuhiko Nakamura, a Japanese author. The author just added an introduction and a concluding sentence.
For myself I take this article as some piece of information. And I will think about it on my own as I do about any other piece of information. I guess the most dangerous thing is to take every information in every nuance as the absolute and universal truth instead if thinking about it yourself.
You mean it's not like the conditions in a company that produces the iPhone, where ppl have 12 hours working days, 6 days a week (that's without the usual overtime work) with a tiny salary and all workers basically live together in the company barracks. You are right, beeing an AV actress is nothing like that.
You want to compare AV-actors with contract killers? Well, apart from the fact that the AV business in Japan is legal and contract killing is not (nor is it in other countries, I believe) contract killers are destroying other people's lifes while with AV actors the only question is if they are destroying their own lifes or not.
Good you mention this japanese author. He obviously wrote a book about this business and here's what the book is about:
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2012/06/07/av-actresses-porn-performances-not-mere-money-matters/
Let me quote from the description of the book:
The whole book written by the japanese author seems to be far less negative and much more balanced regarding the AV-business than the article from the english author. Which proves my point.
I agree with you here.
I'm talking about that this "industry" is not righteous or virtuous.
And of course you can always find more bad example. But that doesn't make the other one better, doesn't it? E.g. you can't make one war better by mentioning a war which was more brutal, more violent and cost more innocent lives, right?
Not everything that is legal is also good. I'm not sure about the destryoing part. Of course they don't kill people (as long as crime isn't involved).
And I was talking about your way how you construct your argument(s). For me that is not argument at all as I can apply it to everyone else, too. It would be nice to have an argument that applies only to the AV industry, but not on occupations like being a contract killer.
That was only an example for your argument. Of course no normal thinking person would compare these two professions.
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