SWAG (and FC2 for that matter)

ding73ding

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So what is SWAG? The way I understand is it's Taiwanese version of FC2. Not it's not a pir8 site. Not mainly. The way I understand it is that like FC2, it's a platform for masturbators to pay strippers/performers (semi-) directly.

Of course I can't say I know well what FC2 is all about either. Seems to me, FC2 is primarily the Uber of porn. Instead of studios hiring performers making porn selling to fans. It's just performers and customers with only FC2 in between taking a cut.

Anyone knows more detail? Discuss? Any fav vids or performers from TW that you want to talk about?
 

twenie

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I'm grateful for SWAG. Unfortunately I think the vids are intended for mobile phone consumption hence the annoying portrait orientation.

Also watch JVID if you haven't. It seems that porn industry in Taiwan/China region is growing. Finally have some alternatives to JAV :)

WANIMAL is also good if you like softcore. He only uses 10/10 models. Is a video/photographer and not a porn producer though.

Also can you imagine if South Korea didn't prohibit showing genital/sex in cyberspace? Those KBJ girls are hella pretty!
 
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ding73ding

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Yeah so far I only got 2 SWAG vids off nyaa, they are only curiosity for me, not even worth a full watching. According to playno1 there are starting to appear a few famous SWAG idols. But I haven't find a way to check them out.

From China, HK, TW, Singapore, South Korea, I just assume without evidence there are always some underground ways to share sexual contents. HK and TW were the only regions with something resembling an industry. HK hard/softcore (similar to and sometimes better than Japanese pink films) were alright for a few years but that industry died with JAV (mostly pirate but some legit) becoming easily available. HK overground porn became only limited to magazine which in reality is a directory for career prostitutes.

TW had been cleaning for years, few years ago I was there and the red light district doesn't even look like red light district (it's just as slump as before, but now minus the fun and sex). TW overground sex industry seems to me only remains the legit JAV (which gets the more nasty footage cut and Chinese subtitles).

Of course the underground stuffs will always be there, HK and TW for sure, South Korea... I don't know of it, but safe to assume there are some underground things going on.

What's most interesting to me is that SWAG support an overground payment system, and even accept payment from China and Malaysia. Now I don't know about Malaysian (Muslim country) laws about porn but I can't believe China allowing this to go on. Probably it's still early and not so widespread that escaped gov attention. But they can block it both ways, they can block the online payment going out to SWAG, and they can block the data packets streaming in from SWAG's servers.

Anyway at least in TW it's using lawful reliable payment methods so it is a way for girls to get into the business. Most important a performer can trust the system. I think it's hugely attractive to a regular girl next door. In the bad old days, a girl can make some money two ways: (1) for better anonymity, go work in a brothel or massage parlor or something. You don't risk being recognized by thousands, but you have to physically touch random yucky men, probably at least 5 per day just to pay rent and food. (2) slight better control/selection of your sex partners, work for porn, work load is much lighter, maybe 10 times fuckings per month, usually fewer, and you can at least hope for less gross more professional fuckers. But in a conservative society, you are risking exposure and throw your future away. But SWAG makes it possible, a girl can be her own boss, make some solo strip shows, or masturbation vid and make some money. Or sex vid with her real world boyfriend or at least some non-gross guy of her choice. She can work as much or as little as she wants and choose the sex acts she likes or at least tolerate. You still risk exposure but without a studio and agent a girl is in total control of her life. E.g. if she only makes solo vids, she can keep her virginity (or at least pretend to) and keep her reputation and future (both marriage and career) mostly intact even with exposure. Even possible to advertise herself to prospective boyfriend/husband/sugar daddy using SWAG. I think there are lots of Chinese men willing to take as girlfriend or wife if she wasn't touched by other men but only seen in the nude.
 

twenie

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A couple of interesting insights there regarding Taiwan, thanks! BTW, I thought SWAG is based in TW but I could be wrong.

If you wanna watch more SWAG videos, try going to " t k t u b e . c o m" (without the spaces) and search for them. It seems that SWAG is actively taking down its videos being reposted somewhere else so you can hardly find them.

Regarding South Korea, if you've ever watched KBJ (basically korean live chat videos) then you must've known that the number of their pretty girls are staggering. If only we could somehow recruit them into porn.... The girls themselves have no personal problems about showing genitals, as shown by some of their OLD videos and how they are constantly trying to do "slips". It's just that the law prohibits them.

On the South Korean hardcore scene, there used to be HAJA10 and AMA10 but they are gone now. Their videos are still circulating on "p o r n h u b . c o m".
 

ding73ding

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Yes SWAG is a TW company, featuring mostly TW women, selling to mostly TW men. But they did take the trouble to develop payment methods for HK, CN, Singapore and Malaysia (since Malay language is not seen, I assume they are targeting the Chinese diaspora in Malaysia).

For now I'm not interested to discuss the various underground scenes. If anyone want to share on that, be my guest, I'd read it, but I have nothing to add for now. I'm most interested in the overground scene. Ways to (make) sell and buy amateur porn with a trustworthy and lawful payment system.