Personal relationship with a Japanese porn star

Would you ever be in a relationship or even marry a current or former porn star?

  • Yes, beause...

  • No, because...

  • It would make no difference what they do for a living


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alexkiallys

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I've always wondered how many porn stars are in committed relationships during their career and afterwards.

Do they even tell someone they meet about their career or hope they never find out?
 
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lordsuperjesus

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i read somewhere online years ago that japan makes so many AV with so many girls debuting that 1 out of every 100 women in Tokyo has done at least 1 AV. now i don't know if that is even close to true but it's not hard to believe given the rate those hard working japs put out new shit with new girls. it seems like 100's any given week. it seems that a lot of young girls in japan do AV and with the birth rate being what it is over there that can't be good for forming committed relationships and it seems that sex is easy as shit to buy with 40 bucks for a hour at a pink salon. i know some of the guys on this forum live in Japan and i know at least one guy here works in the JAV biz, so maybe they would know. i don't think that the japs are really all that big on relationships as a whole. the birth rate is so low there now that in the next 50 years there may not be a japan as we know it now. the birth rate is well below replacement level and the young people are not having sex and not having baby's. so in japan i would guess that the answer to your question would be not many but seeing as i don't live there, that's just a guess i make due to birth rate trends.

tl:dr, fuck if i know man. i don't think so tho.
 

Inertia

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i read somewhere online years ago that japan makes so many AV with so many girls debuting that 1 out of every 100 women in Tokyo has done at least 1 AV. now i don't know if that is even close to true but it's not hard to believe given the rate those hard working japs put out new shit with new girls. it seems like 100's any given week. it seems that a lot of young girls in japan do AV and with the birth rate being what it is over there that can't be good for forming committed relationships and it seems that sex is easy as shit to buy with 40 bucks for a hour at a pink salon. i know some of the guys on this forum live in Japan and i know at least one guy here works in the JAV biz, so maybe they would know. i don't think that the japs are really all that big on relationships as a whole. the birth rate is so low there now that in the next 50 years there may not be a japan as we know it now. the birth rate is well below replacement level and the young people are not having sex and not having baby's. so in japan i would guess that the answer to your question would be not many but seeing as i don't live there, that's just a guess i make due to birth rate trends.

tl:dr, fuck if i know man. i don't think so tho.

You love AV. You love gokkun...yet you use the term 'japs'? Seriously?

People do have sex here just as much as anywhere else.

Places like pink salons charge way more than '40 bucks an hour' if you want to be serviced by a Japanese woman.

Most AV stars retire and return to a private life. A few continue on in the entertainment field and usually use the same stage name.
 

alexkiallys

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You love AV. You love gokkun...yet you use the term 'japs'? Seriously?

People do have sex here just as much as anywhere else.

Places like pink salons charge way more than '40 bucks an hour' if you want to be serviced by a Japanese woman.

Most AV stars retire and return to a private life. A few continue on in the entertainment field and usually use the same stage name.

I'm curious as to how these women return to a private life. In America, there's a huge stigma attached to being a porn star (for men and women).

And some do go on to a private life, others leave but then come back. The porn industry in America is losing money because it's so easy to copy a movie and release it online for free , so some of the women do live shows where it's harder to steal the content. It's worse for male porn stars. As far as I know, no one is running to see them do a live show and watch them masturbate.

One of my favorite actresses, Reiko Nakamori retired and I read she's doing something creative like painting or something like that. And my first thought was "Hmm... interesting."
Because it's difficult to get out of your mind seeing someone have sex with 4 or 5 guys at once and now she's involved in something else where she might even become great and recognized for it under her actual name and never have it known she was in the porn industry.

A current star I'm curious about is Ai Uehara. She's made so many movies and I don't even think she's 23 years old! What does her future hold?

Reiko Nakamori:
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Ai Uehara:
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alexkiallys

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Reiko Nakamori retired? :eek: :(

Yeah, she retired in 2013. http://www.freeones.com/html/r_links/Reiko_Nakamori

Like I said, she's into something creative nowadays. Painting or something like that. Pound for pound, she has one of the best bodies I've ever seen. Another favorite of mine is Mio Takahashi.

In regards to your quote ...

"Off-topic: Does someone know from which not JAV porn movie this scene is?"

It's probably from "Trike Patrol" or a similar site. Because the watermark seems to be covering another watermark. You'd most like have to go to the site, scour through all the girls and see if one matches this one in the video.

*Sigh* Reiko..... reiko_nakamori_47.jpg

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Mio....

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CodeGeek

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Thanks for the tip. :)

And I totally agree to your statements about Reiko. Loved her movies.
About Mio... Haven't seen many of her movies yet. So I can't say much about her.
Means you would date Ai, Reiko and Mio?
 
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Electromog

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i read somewhere online years ago that japan makes so many AV with so many girls debuting that 1 out of every 100 women in Tokyo has done at least 1 AV.
I doubt that. the greater Tokyo area has about 18 million females, even if you don't count the really young and old that would still mean several tens of thousands porn actresses.
 

alexkiallys

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Thanks for the tip. :)

And I totally agree to your statements about Reiko. Loved her movies.
About Mio... Haven't seen many of her movies yet. So I can't say much about her.
Means you would date Ai, Reiko and Mio?

I would never date Ai, Reiko, Mio or any other porn star. Because if they're a current actress, then in essence you're in competition with all the men she's sleeping with. If you're dating a former porn star, then she might still be into some things you probably wouldn't like (scat, golden showers etc...). And if you don't satisfy her sexually, she knows someone in the business who can.

But this can be applied to any woman. The fact that you might not want to do certain things for her and she knows someone who can. Some guys get into relationships with female porn stars and only want them to do lesbian or masturbation type movies. They try to change the very thing about the woman that turned them on in the first place.

I'm not trying to change anyone,. I would want someone, who I accept as is, and if she's in the porn industry, then I wouldn't even think of a relationship to begin with.

Either I would be monogamous or I would be single and hope to fuck every woman I find attractive! :)

Mio Takahashi has it all. I like women with nice asses, regardless of race. And a lot of Asian women I've encountered have flat asses. I've seen more Asian in porn with nice asses than I have in everyday life.

Another woman who I think is hot is Reiko Kobayakawa...

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If you're into nice asses, these 3 movies have them.

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needs more loli

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I would have no problem dating a JAV actress. A lot of people tend to think of them as whores or sex objects, but if you watch them in candid moments or non-porn scenarios like the one I posted a while ago, you realize that they are just regular girls albeit who happen to have lots of sex. I have no problem with that honestly, to quote the great Ludacris, "I want a lady in the streets but a freak in the bed".

Plus who am I to judge. I fap feverishly to Japanese porn on a daily basis, I fail to see how acting in it makes them worse.

Maybe my opinion might change when I'm older, but currently as a young single guy, I would love to date a girl like Cocoa Himeno
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or Akane Azusa.
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They look so sweet and fun. :lalala:
 

ding73ding

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I've always wondered how many porn stars are in committed relationships during their career and afterwards.

Do they even tell someone they meet about their career or hope they never find out?

... Because if they're a current actress, then in essence you're in competition with all the men she's sleeping with. ... (scat, golden showers etc...). And if you don't satisfy her sexually, she knows someone in the business who can.

From the large number of news (even considered most are biased one way or another) articles about JAV (and US porn) performers, sex workers, hostesses etc I read over the years, I think your understanding of JAV and Japanese norms and outlook is a bit off.

Firstly, the singles rate (not in a steady partnership) in Japan is very high. Esp. a woman with an independent (and strong) source of income is likely to be single. Therefore I can guess right away many JAV performers are un-committed, even without considering she's working in the sex industry.

By most accounts (knowing it might be biased), most JAV performers leave the industry and enter mainstream society as if they've never been in the "business".

The participation rate in JAV and/or hostess (a board category that cover prostitution) is extremely high. According to a survey (which you are free to question) 1 in 4 Japanese women have such work experience.
http://www.tokyokinky.com/1-in-4-quarter-japanese-girls-women-work-hostess/

Now of course JAV is a bit more hardcore than hostessing, with hostessing you get typically one customer at a time, with JAV, for one day of work you are exposed to thousands of paying customers and unknown number of BT/DD leechers. But still if 1-in-4 women have some sex work experience than 1-in-100 women have JAV experience is not as outrageous as it sounds, for the rest of the world.

Consider the circumstantial evidence:
Everyday many JAV's are released (judge from Akiba-Online, DMM etc), how many, I'm too lazy to count now, but more than 10, I'd say? And I'd say more than half are "amateur" JAV's (which I define as when a JAV's cover image doesn't list the performer's name, no matter how many times that woman have appeared credited or uncredited in other JAVs). So literally thousands of JAVs are released each year, and half of them are amateur. Multiply by the 35+ years of JAV history, then the 1-in-100 estimate is not so unimaginable at all. Although this level of participation is absolutely mad for most other places in the world.

Now with tens-of-thousands of (former) JAV performers walking around in the country, how many cases of drug overdose. imprisonment, murders and suicides have you heard of associated with JAV? For me, ZERO. Whereas similar cases involving former porn actresses, strippers and even Playboy Playamates are known and not even too uncommon. OK granted Japanese news media may have a habit of under-reporting negative news, but at least some newspapers are socially conservative and they are politically biased to point accusations at the sex industry. Yet we hear of so few such cases, especially compared to the (very verifiable) common cases of current and former JAV performers crossing over to mainstream media (albeit mostly as minor celebrity).

I'm not a fan of amateur JAV (as I prefer "professionalism" over "realism") but those I have seen, I mean... The typical amateur JAV girl is so average, so unremarkable, that (1) mostly she can't star a single JAV all by herself and have to share the limited production budget with other performers (2) she can't make it into big budget productions, (3) hard to see she get casting calls over and over again so her career is limited. Without the millions or tens of millions of yens lifetime income of a long career, the stigma of a former sex worker must be low.

Some of them are just plain ugly, actually. If you must demand proof I will have to grab some frames from some uncensored JAV I have. They are so ugly that you have to conclude either (1) they got into drug addiction or debt problems or something equally bad and "fallen" into JAV and presumably on the path to total destruction or (2) that amateur JAV is considered so nonchalant by mainstream society that social stigma of being a former JAV performer is so low that its worth the little pay of a one-off job (I'm guessing 10,000-20,000 yens). I think (2) is the case.

So... IMHO, past history as JAV performer is not a major burden/skeleton-in-closet.
 
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Fisheraaa

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Sure why not , they are people like every1 else.

Also ... id much rather date a jav actress than a current/ex military.
 

alexkiallys

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From the large number of news (even considered most are biased one way or another) articles about JAV (and US porn) performers, sex workers, hostesses etc I read over the years, I think your understanding of JAV and Japanese norms and outlook is a bit off.

Firstly, the singles rate (not in a steady partnership) in Japan is very high. Esp. a woman with an independent (and strong) source of income is likely to be single. Therefore I can guess right away many JAV performers are un-committed, even without considering she's working in the sex industry.

By most accounts (knowing it might be biased), most JAV performers leave the industry and enter mainstream society as if they've never been in the "business".

The participation rate in JAV and/or hostess (a board category that cover prostitution) is extremely high. According to a survey (which you are free to question) 1 in 4 Japanese women have such work experience.
http://www.tokyokinky.com/1-in-4-quarter-japanese-girls-women-work-hostess/

Now of course JAV is a bit more hardcore than hostessing, with hostessing you get typically one customer at a time, with JAV, for one day of work you are exposed to thousands of paying customers and unknown number of BT/DD leechers. But still if 1-in-4 women have some sex work experience than 1-in-100 women have JAV experience is not as outrageous as it sounds, for the rest of the world.

Consider the circumstantial evidence:
Everyday many JAV's are released (judge from Akiba-Online, DMM etc), how many, I'm too lazy to count now, but more than 10, I'd say? And I'd say more than half are "amateur" JAV's (which I define as when a JAV's cover image doesn't list the performer's name, no matter how many times that woman have appeared credited or uncredited in other JAVs). So literally thousands of JAVs are released each year, and half of them are amateur. Multiply by the 35+ years of JAV history, then the 1-in-100 estimate is not so unimaginable at all. Although this level of participation is absolutely mad for most other places in the world.

Now with tens-of-thousands of (former) JAV performers walking around in the country, how many cases of drug overdose. imprisonment, murders and suicides have you heard of associated with JAV? For me, ZERO. Whereas similar cases involving former porn actresses, strippers and even Playboy Playamates are known and not even too uncommon. OK granted Japanese news media may have a habit of under-reporting negative news, but at least some newspapers are socially conservative and they are politically biased to point accusations at the sex industry. Yet we hear of so few such cases, especially compared to the (very verifiable) common cases of current and former JAV performers crossing over to mainstream media (albeit mostly as minor celebrity).

I'm not a fan of amateur JAV (as I prefer "professionalism" over "realism") but those I have seen, I mean... The typical amateur JAV girl is so average, so unremarkable, that (1) mostly she can't star a single JAV all by herself and have to share the limited production budget with other performers (2) she can't make it into big budget productions, (3) hard to see she get casting calls over and over again so her career is limited. Without the millions or tens of millions of yens lifetime income of a long career, the stigma of a former sex worker must be low.

Some of them are just plain ugly, actually. If you must demand proof I will have to grab some frames from some uncensored JAV I have. They are so ugly that you have to conclude either (1) they got into drug addiction or debt problems or something equally bad and "fallen" into JAV and presumably on the path to total destruction or (2) that amateur JAV is considered so nonchalant by mainstream society that social stigma of being a former JAV performer is so low that its worth the little pay of a one-off job (I'm guessing 10,000-20,000 yens). I think (2) is the case.

So... IMHO, past history as JAV performer is not a major burden/skeleton-in-closet.

As far as my understanding of JAV being a "bit off", I don't remember giving any facts, I asked questions and gave my opinion.

Most of what you stated, you didn't verify.
As a matter of fact, did you even give me any proof of what you stated?
You gave me a survey which you stated that I was free to question.
You gave me estimates. A guess here, a guess there.
Where are your facts?
 

kumokuma

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Many JAV stars retired because they get married, like Rui Saotome(早乙女ルイ). But she is top class in the industry and I guess her husband know who she is.
But during their career, that's weird for Aisan. Maybe fans won't buy your DVDs anymore, like AKB members.
Some JAV stars are also sex workers and they are very expensive. But, that's business, right?
 

Inertia

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ding75ding: Actually, there are quite a few AV stars with skeletons in their closet. Not all of course and we certainly do here more horror stories about western porn stars. I know of at least one AV star who killed herself shortly after retiring back in 2007. Then there are the countless AV stars who are former wrist cutters including Rui Saotome posted by kumokuma.

Also, an amateur appearing in her AV debut title (a full movie that stars only her) generally receives around 200,000 yen. It can be more if she's very attractive, has a unique past, etc.
 

Inertia

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EroMura777: I can only comment on things that are 'public knowledge'. Actual insider information that I haven't seen written up in magazines or is not obvious (like wrist-cutting) I'm unable to divulge.
 

Pavel08

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Hmm but maybe those things Inertia said is not that bad. Isn't wrist cutters is quite common in Japan in general, not just AV?
And from what ding73ding said, JAV is not a meat grinder like western porn, and isn't a "whore" job at all. Also Japanese seems much more forgiving for porn actress than East Asians or even Europeans or USA. It's nice, i'm glad it's like that.
For thread question. MY answer is yes, why not. I love these girls. And maybe i'm biased, but i cant hate AV girls at all. Because tbh, watching my favorite AV girls make me happy as much as watching Riquelme play football for example, so why hate them :D
 

ding73ding

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ding75ding: Actually, there are quite a few AV stars with skeletons in their closet. Not all of course and we certainly do here more horror stories about western porn stars. I know of at least one AV star who killed herself shortly after retiring back in 2007. Then there are the countless AV stars who are former wrist cutters including Rui Saotome posted by kumokuma.

Also, an amateur appearing in her AV debut title (a full movie that stars only her) generally receives around 200,000 yen. It can be more if she's very attractive, has a unique past, etc.

Of course I don't mean JAV life is perfect. But the frequency seems to be low. And for now, we have to be satisfied by that. News stories that may or may not be true or biased or colored, and hearsay and reading between the lines.

Suicide rate of Japan is very high, Japan is #1 amongst G7 countries. So take the thousands of current and ex- JAV performers, just by statistics there should be quite a few. But it seems those suicides are not blamed on JAV or the sex industry in general.

Wrist-cutting is also common in Japan (and East Asia in general), especially amongst young women. In a (mostly useless) psyche training session, I was taught to spot wrist cutters by paying attentions to boys and girls who wear long sleeves or wrist bands in hot weather. Of course it's hard to do when you have to work naked, even with make-up, it's hard to be a concurrent wrist-cutter and JAV performer, methinks.

IMHO your post highlight the exceptions that proved the rule: a JAV career doesn't ruin a Japanese woman's life, the way it would in most other countries.

About 200k yens for a debut 1-woman JAV "单体作品", yeah that's not surprising to me. It does support the main point, it seems a lot of money for a day's work, but is it fair price for ruining one's reputation/life? No! So the fact that so many amateur JAV's starring so many amateur performers come out every week, the social cost/stigma of JAV must be very low.
 

galactus

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In regards to suicide among JAV gals there are more than a few cases of completed suicide. I can find an article(s)that tell about some of them. Surely the actual number of former JAV actresses or Soapland etc workers is higher than 10 over the last 30 years, since I know of about 5, but at the very least it is not zero. Just adding this information for facts sake.

Two of the JAV actresses had done some well-known bukkake vids and might be known to some of you.

Hayashi Yumika and Kurasawa Nanami.