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soletta

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It would be sad if someone spent major money ($99 based on the link) on one of these and in the end realized that their own hand feels better.

Its really fascinating how there are companies researching sex toys, and in the case of this Flip Hole, trying to make it seem so scientific ^^u

Dolphins and sperm whales rofl (in the links).
 

Sakunyuusha

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Pretty late, Rein. :)

My favorite video (one which I think would be borderline pushing it for my challenge so I shan't watch it) is this video of the world's HOTTEST t.v. show host going to Tenga and (allegedly; I choose to believe it though :)) not knowing that she's talking to the CEO of Tenga. (She knows he's the CEO, but allegedly has no clue she's at Tenga HQ.)

Here's a direct link. I can't offer translation scene-by-scene (won't be watching it, remember?) but from what I do remember I can offer you the basic rundown.
  1. She goes in. She sees the CEO. She makes a big deal about he's the CEO (shacho-san) because he admittedly looks like a normal middle-aged man. (Which he was prior to Tenga. lol.)
  2. He shows her Tenga's newest product, without ever mentioning Tenga by name iirc.
  3. She thinks the eggs are adorable looking.
  4. She tries to guess what they are and can't. I forget what she guesses, but she guesses things like how it'd be used and what types of people would use it.
  5. When he opens up the eggs to reveal the gelatin-like masturbation accessory, she comments that it's very soft/squishy (punipuni) and looks delicious (oishisou) and feels really good (chou kimochi ii).
  6. She even rubs it on her cheek! :D
  7. That's when she remembers the familiar feeling ... (insert flashback sequence)
  8. Oh yeah! It's like that one time she met the world champion at the Masturbation Marathon (speed contest; he's the world's fastest to cum, I guess) and he showed her the flip cup! (Which is what rein's post was about.)
  9. That's when she asks the CEO what the egg is.
  10. And he explains: onakyappu (OnaCup, "Mastur-Cup" in English, I guess).
  11. She looks concerned, and asks just to clarify: onakyappu tte nandesuka? or something similar. "What's an OnaCup?"
  12. And that's when the CEO says "masturbation goods" and "an accessory to help men masturbate," and she goes "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! OH! OH! OH! OHHHHHHHHHH!", freaking out hysterically cutely and just letting the ona-egg DROP to the table. Ex fucking Dee. XD
  13. For the rest of the interview, she's clearly REALLY embarrassed and uncomfortable. Gone is her desire to touch the "yummy-looking" egg jelly and in its place is complete non-desire to even barely touch it with her finger.
  14. I remember she makes some funny face when the champion masturbator (who happens to work for Tenga, surprise surprise) brings out a large glass tube to demonstrate the egg's performance with. I couldn't help but think to myself that she wanted a tube like that for herself. Maybe that's just me being perverted, but I dunno: check out her face when he whips it out and decide for yourself.
  15. She's surprised that the champ isn't going to tear the egg with how far he's stretching it on the tube and he explains to her that the polymer is designed specifically to not tear like that, to be really durable, etc. Despite this, Ona-Eggs are allegedly one-time-use only eggs so I'm guessing that the polymer may not hold up too well to tapwater if you attempt to rinse it. Shrug: never used one, no clue.
  16. She asks the champ if he's going to enter this year's Masturbation Marathon. He tells her that he is. When she asks what he plans to use to ensure victory, he confirms that he's planning on using the Ona-Egg to ensure victory. Damn, must be some jelly, I guess. o_O

I really wish I could watch the video. Good God is the girl hot. I would LOOOOOOOOOVE to marry a woman as pretty and cute and spunky as her. Damn. So long as she's not a gold-digging bitch, ... daaaaaaaaaamn.

Once again, you can watch the video by clicking on this link. If you have any trouble watching it (I remember a friend did once), then try to open it in a different window and also try to let it load all the way. It should show signs that it's loading. If it doesn't appear to be loading, hmm. I remember he said that he dragged past a glitch or something. No clue. But if you see that, try to drag the cursor?
 

reingiolt

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yeah i don't really look at onani tools, i just came across this while blog surfing. the video isn't loading for me too. might be cause it seems to need flv player. i did see the egg too, it just didn't impress me as much as the FH. by onakyappu i guess he meant onani cup.
 

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Sakunyuusha

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Wow. The first video was like a Gilette or Schick advertisement for men's razors only it was for masturbation goods instead. lol I'm impressed by the announcer's professionalism: then again, one has to wonder how many takes it took for him to get the final audio cuts? ;p I'm guessing that not even a pro could make it all the way to the end without cracking a smile or laughing at how seriously you're supposed to say sentences like:
The next step in the future of masturbation: the birth of Tenga Flip-Hole™!
[...] filled with state-of-the-art technology, Flip-Hole™ will supercharge your masturbation experience!
Your own experience of the future of masturbation begins with your first use.

I think the best part was how when the camera was going through the Flip-Hole and we were traveling past regions of the device whose differences are supposed to matter enough to make a man spend $100 for this toy, all the announcer can keep using is the word "stimulate" and its derivatives. "Stimulation" this, "stimulates," that -- he never was able to use any other word! XD (from 1:30 on til the end of that segment )

What was with the way he said the words "awaiting" (2:15) and "hygienic" (1:11)? hy-gen-ic (correct), not hy-gee-en-ic (him). A-way-ding (correct American), not a-way-ting (incorrect). Before Europeans and Oceaniacs reply, let this humble American point out that the way he pronounces every other word sounds like an accentless American and not any other English-speaker. And so it's quite fair for me to wonder why someone who sounds so American is saying these words so un-American-ly!

I have to admit: I want one but the two things holding me back are
(1) expense per use, and
(2) addiction

I've read on Japanese websites that a lot of men prefer Tenga's products to their girlfriends' vaginas. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... maybe it's for the best if we just don't mess with this devil voodoo magic, huh guys? ^_^; *points to Japan's declining birth rate*
 

reingiolt

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lol no matter how professinal that ad was i just couldn't help but laugh. i'm rather curious about the the 50 usage limit though. is it cause of the super soft silicone or a ploy to get people to buy a new one? i wonder why they left out the wires and their uses.
there is a flaw in the design though. this is mainly targeted at Jap consumers ryt? if so a length changing option is a must. otherwise there will be a lot of people who won't be feeling the "end orb" hehe
 

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I´m not taking part in this discussion, but some posts made me laugh so much that it hurt already...
 

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re post #6

:snicker: .......... :snicker2: .......... :squirt: .......... :evillaugh: .......... :ridiculed: ......... :lols: .......... :cry: .......... :moe: ........ :rofl: ........ :death:
 

Sakunyuusha

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About the length:
I think the Tenga Egg was made to address the length issue. It can stretch as far or as little as a guy needs it to. It's also directly moldable (as shown in the video when the girl repeats after the World Champ as he shows her how to squeeze on or twist the egg while it's around a man's penis). This is a big difference from the Flip-Cup, which appears to depend entirely on two things: (1) vacuum/pressure and (2) the size (length and width both) of the man's erect penis. If a guy's penis is wider than normal, it looks like this is prepared to do the job, but if it's narrower than normal, I'm not so sure. Similarly, if his penis is too long, it may not please him, and if it's too short, then he can't reach the end. The penis appears to need to be in that 6"-give-or-take-an-inch range for the Flip-Cup to work best. Any longer and your head will probably ram into the plastic edge (which could hurt, lol) as you try to bring the Flip-Cup's body towards yours; and any shorter than that and duh you won't reach the end.

The problem with the egg, of course, is that it's a uniform polymer shaped like a shot glass whereas the Flip-Cup had all of those different-feeling ridges at different points along the way. So it sounds to me like if you're a man with a long-enough and wide-enough penis that the Flip-Cup would be preferred, whereas if you're a man with too short or too narrow of a penis that you're forced to settle for 2nd best which is the Tenga Egg.

Then again ... some of those male Western porn stars probably are too long and too wide for even the Flip-Cup, meaning they'd have to settle for the super-elastic egg as well.

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About the reuse:
I think it's half and half, Rein. Just like with men's electric shavers! The company tells you to replace the blades once every two to six months. Yeah right! Most men wait a year or two before they replace the blades in their electric shavers. Why replace what still works? Why spend all that money for 10% improvement? Why not wait until you'll get 20%, 30%, 50% improvement?

But just like shavers, the company isn't lying completely: the blades do get dull eventually and do need to be replaced. This sort of planned obsolescence is what you'd expect to find in a masturbation toy, and so it's no surprise that Tenga's invented a polymer which does the following:
(a) feels good
(b) isn't known to cause cancer or other diseases
(c) only lasts 50 "normal uses"

What's a "normal use"? This to me suggests that the gel is gradually ruined by plain old water: it chemically degrades with repeat use. It's not physically degrading (e.g. tearing, eroding due to friction). The lube should minimize that. It's got to be due to the water (a) in semen [if you refused to expose it to tapwater] and (b) from when you wash it. I'm guessing that it probably lasts 50 uses if you wash and dry it as directed, < 30 uses if you wash it but don't promptly dry it as directed, and around 60 or so uses if you open it up and wipe out the ejaculate with a dry tissue or something. (Which I don't recommend, but I'm just imagining how you could minimize exposure of water to the gel.) I wouldn't be surprised if the gel-foam's chemical degradation is helped along by the lube they sell you. So maybe if you were to wear a condom and place the lubricant between your penis and the condom itself, you could make the Flip-Cup last longer ... except good luck getting the condom to stay on!! XD If the vacuum doesn't tug it off of you, the lube you put between your dick and the condom definitely will help it to slide right off the first time you pull out! lol

This is probably the same reason the eggs are considered one-use only products: I bet they turn into mush when they are exposed to running tapwater. Or maybe they harden. The possibilities are endless. Having never used one or seen one in real life, I don't know, but I'm guessing it's got to be chemical degradation as per planned obsolescence. You force the consumer to buy more eggs when the eggs don't last forever.

That's the damn thing, though: if you're a guy who masturbates anywhere from four times a week upward, the Tenga Flip-Hole just isn't economical at all! :\ $100 for 50 uses? That adds up way too quickly. Sure, $2 may sound nice when you consider how expensive a call-girl is by comparison, but she's a human being with breasts and buttocks and warmth and noise and everything: and this is just you all alone with your dick in a box ... err, plastic tube. ;p
 

reingiolt

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kukuku Sakun's really thought this thru. perhaps we'll eventually see a new thread with your review on both products :lols:

i'm kinda looking forward to Tenga's next product though. maybe it'll be something that needs batteries hehe

btw here's another interesting onani product.
 

Sakunyuusha

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Well like I said, even if it was cheaper and readily available for purchase at most American pharmacies, I don't think I'd purchase one because they sound addictive. Seriously! That's not something you take lightly: "the Tenga Flip-Hole feels better than my girlfriend's vagina." Would you really want that to happen to you? Would you want to have a girlfriend who makes you feel amazing in bed, and then discover Tenga, and then go back to your girlfriend and she no longer does it for you? If "Tenga" was "another woman," then maybe that's up for a philosophical debate ;p , but when "Tenga" is just a plastic cup with ribbed gel-foam inside, I think this is one time that ignorance really may be bliss after all. Picture it! "Joe, what happened to you? You look terrible!" "Oh. Hey, Bob. Marie threw me out." "Threw you out? For what?" "Tenga."
 

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Does condome usage help to extend the life time? Just like food or pharmaceutial raw material and end products it seems to have an expiry date...
 

Sakunyuusha

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I doubt it helps significantly, because I think they've designed the perfect product:

- if you use the lube, that's all the moisture the gel-foam needs to die after 50 normal uses

- if you don't use the lube, the friction of the human penis against the gel-foam probably creates micro-tears. Later, human ejaculate, human sweat, and (if you opt to) washing liquids or running water enter these micro-tears and help to degrade the gel-foam.


So whether you use a condom or not, I think the lube itself is the major issue. If you use a condom and no lube, I guess that might introduce minimal water to the device, and (so long as there are no tears in your condom!) no ejaculate, either. But if I'm right about the friction causing micro-tears, it's possible that even with enough condom use you might one day rip some of the ribbing off, or tear the ball at the end of the device, etc.

In other words, you can't use this product without making it take one step closer to the grave. And that makes it the PERFECT capitalist product.

Very, very savvy.
 
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kukuku Sakun's really thought this thru. perhaps we'll eventually see a new thread with your review on both products :lols:

i'm kinda looking forward to Tenga's next product though. maybe it'll be something that needs batteries hehe

btw here's another interesting onani product.

I bought that from j-list, i can absolutley recomennd it.
I did fuck up and made a hole in it tho, crammed it into a drawer with too much air still in it, was too lazy to empty it out, maybe ill fix it someday...
 

reingiolt

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u shouldn't let it go to waste. try using some duct tape or super glue . how much did it cost u?
 
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$55
http://www.jlist.com/PRODUCT/OMO301
Nah im not gonna throw it out, i have tried some glue but it hasn't worked, gonna use sillikon next, that should do it, but it takes a while to get around to it. Otherviste it's extremly sturdy, you dont have to be afraid to put your waight on it, wich is good.