Hentairu is offline

redrooster

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Hentairu´s admin made a short announcement today that the site has been closed down due to expensive costs, high moderating effort and lots of spammers abusing the site.

There has been a DMCA request by Adult Source Media some weeks ago which may be seen as additional reason.

Sorry to tell...
 

redrooster

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It is a pity anyway. Perhaps you could make a revision of your signature - and I don´t think you are homeless. Home is where you feel well and your friends are...
 

Caotics

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It is a pity anyway. Perhaps you could make a revision of your signature - and I don´t think you are homeless. Home is where you feel well and your friends are...

:XD: Your right...

On brighter news, i have alot more free time now :perfectplan:
 

reingiolt

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it's only been 3 days since i found the gold mine in Hru and now its gone. :sigh: i feel like i just ate a whole box of dark chocolates.
kinda makes you wonder how long akiba will last...
 

redrooster

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Just remember that the 4 admins of The Pirate Bay have just been condemned by Swedish Court to 1 year jail yesterday because of copyright violation (movies / popular music), they have to pay 2.5 millon Euros too, they will fight against the judgement though...

Main problem is that the server is not located in Sweden anymore and the admins don´t tell where it is. Nobody really seems to know...

Perhaps Denamic knows more about it from Svenska Dagbladet / Nyheter...
 

xeruel

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it's only been 3 days since i found the gold mine in Hru and now its gone. :sigh: i feel like i just ate a whole box of dark chocolates.
kinda makes you wonder how long akiba will last...

nahhh, your gold mine is your digging skill, its only makes easier to get if its in one place/site :lols:
safe to say AO is in strategic position as JAV rarely have problems with authorities and the biggest risk came from our Hens section (you realised that don't you):XD: but with DLsite add here we won't have problem as many as others :attention: as long the admins don't play with I'ntl copyrighted material :murder:
 

redrooster

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nahhh, your gold mine is your digging skill, its only makes easier to get if its in one place/site :lols:
safe to say AO is in strategic position as JAV rarely have problems with authorities and the biggest risk came from our Hens section (you realised that don't you):XD: but with DLsite add here we won't have problem as many as others :attention: as long the admins don't play with I'ntl copyrighted material :murder:

I´m deleting or closing licensed or DLsite stuff almost every day. We just have to be attentive. We even eliminate licensed material which is not mentioned in the "DO NOT UPLOAD: list" like NuTech Digital stuff. That´s the reason why I won´t allow Happy Carrot stuff to be posted too...

Only Japanese material or material of East Asian origin is allowed on A-O.
 

reingiolt

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not in Hru's case, it was a real gold ( feels more like diamond now ) mine. there were a bunch of stuff that could only be found there. there's a possibility that those could be found in some chinese site but i have no way of navigating there.
yeah but i don't really care about the AV sections. i'm just here for the hens.
 

Sakunyuusha

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When you consider the turn of events in Sweden regarding the Pirate Bay ...

When you consider that this web community could still stay in touch chat-wise if it wanted to ...

When you consider that chompy's pockets aren't all that deep ...

I think you pretty much have to come to the conclusion that chompy will need to convert Akiba-Online into an Asian interests discussion site (err, webforum). Sweden has told the world that it's no longer going to protect those who link to illegal material: it's going to convict them for piracy just as it does those who upload the material illegally in the first place. Sure, Sweden isn't the only haven for pirates in the 21st century -- but it's one of the most famous. I see it as just a matter of time (< 10 years) before every country on the planet no longer provides pirates with safe havens for their servers, at which point in time I think we'd all revert to a P2P-like model of file sharing and website hosting (which we're not too far off from doing right now). But the catch is, all it takes is one mole to take down a community that way -- all it takes is one member who shares the treasure with one friend too many to bring the whole thing crashing down.

In short, we're headed towards the inevitable "L O S E" in big, red, flashing letters -- a loss for pirates in the game between pirates and copyright holders. (SURPRISE SURPRISE, THE ONES WITH MORE CASH AND MORE POWER WIN. WHO'D HAVE GUESSED? [/all-caps sarcasm])

But this really does beg two questions:
(1) What, if any, is the future role of the DMCA in contemporary Internet piracy law? Sweden has just one-upped America's DMCA quite handily: and it was none other than Sweden in whom pirates the world over vested so much of their trust. (lol @ irony)

(2) What will Sweden (and nations which applaud Sweden's court's decision) do with regards to sites like Youtube, sites which encourage users to upload user-created content and which (officially) attempt to take down any and all copyrighted material they find but which refrain from pressing charges against or from releasing to license-holders the IPs of the offenders in question?

Because fundamentally I see this court's decision as something which will define our generation's (and future generations') legal privileges with regards to copyrighted media. The Pirate Bay says "We didn't upload it, we don't host it, but here it is. If you want it taken down, to take the matter up with us: take it up with whoever uploaded your stuff in the first place." Youtube says "We didn't upload it, we do host it, and here it is. If you want it taken down, just ask us politely: don't sue us, and if the guy who uploaded it complies with the DMCA within 7 days, then don't sue him either." Neither one is a nice situation for the music and video industries, but I think the Youtube model feels much less legally justifiable, even if it's the one the world is supporting and not TPB.
 

X-Death

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Hentairu´s admin made a short announcement today that the site has been closed down due to expensive costs, high moderating effort and lots of spammers abusing the site.

There has been a DMCA request by Adult Source Media some weeks ago which may be seen as additional reason.

Sorry to tell...

too bad.. after all the owner of that site has a huge fans of haters and some of them are owner of a site so its really hard to manage it if you have those kind of problems.... anyway i never thought it will hit the hentairu since its quite different from nihonomaru for its rampant and abusive way thanks to Caotics :hero: ..

i guess the dmca ppl is more powerful than the normal users cuz once you provoke them they wont stop you until you :murder: :XD:

so better keep your friends close but your enemies closer :perfectplan:
 

reingiolt

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it seems the hentai section at Nihonmaru is now gone as well. i'm beginning to wonder if HF is next.....
 

Sakunyuusha

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It'll probably return to how it was in the early '90s. Look at it this way: originally, people did not share porn nearly so publically as they have in the last 10 years. You'd have to go to a special IRC channel (and good luck finding it by randomly guessing the channel name! lol) and get things that way. Very small communities with invite-only procedures. Things got more public in the late '90s/early '00s only because public means of sharing stuff are ALWAYS less of a pain in the neck than the more private means -- just so long as you're not caught! And in the late '90s/early '00s, the porn fans were Internet-savvy but the industry not so much.

It's "only" taken them 20 years, but it seems like the porn industry has finally caught up with the times. Which means that it's back to the old days of VHS cassette tape exchanges (only now it'll be DVD+Rs or Blu-Ray writable media) and small, private, hidden-from-the-rest-of-the-world IRC channels.

And even I thought I couldn't possibly get more pessimistic than I had been last night. XD Looks like I was wrong. ;p
 

reingiolt

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hm...my collection could probably last me my entire lifetime so i probably wouldn't mind it that much. you'll probably be fine too since your more of a manga type of guy and manga would be a whole lot easier to share compared to video files.
 

redrooster

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After the admin´s message from yesterday the complete site of hentairu has vanished already from the web completely since more than 16 hours, the domain seems to be for sale.

Yep, reingiolt, about 14 months ago I planned to get all hentai animations searching for old and rare ones. But I have recognized since a long time already that I never will manage. But I´m happy still for every rare one I can find. Task and fun doing it never end this way...
 

Sakunyuusha

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What I think is funniest of all, though, is that all of this stuff is completely inconsistent with what happened in earlier times. When machines took away farm labor, nobody said it was criminal: people said it was just that the times were changing and technology was making life simpler. When machines took away assembly line positions, again there was no one who claimed to be a criminal victim. People claimed to be victims of circumstance, sure, but nobody said they were going to sue the manufacturer of the robots that took away their old jobs. Now, we come to the modern era, where digital technology has made it all but impossible for a man to make more than $50,000 a year if he's a musician, painter, or writer. Music is pirated. Art is pirated. Stories are pirated. Before you could tell people, "If you don't pay to read my book, then you don't get to read it." And people had to listen to you even if they didn't like you. Nowadays, nobody has to listen to you. Some people choose to listen to you, but it's more a pity-vote with their money than it is an act of compliance. They feel they're doing you a favor, not the other way around, when they go to the bookstore and buy your book rather than downloading it for free off of the internet and reading it on their Apple iPhone or their Nintendo DS or their Amazon Kindle.

And yet the argument is not at all like it was with the farm hands or the machine laborers from times past. Now, the musicians, artists, and writers are raising holy hell that their occupations are being transformed into mere hobbies, activities which can maybe make some charity-money but certainly can't make you enough money to live lavishly.

You know what this tells us about our society? It tells us that this issue is much bigger than media piracy. Fundamentally, this boils down to the question of technology supplanting labor. Who needs a surgeon when you can have Surg-o-Bot? Who needs a conductor or an orchestra when you can have Conduct-o-Bot conducting Orchestra-bots? Who needs carpenters when you have carpenterbots? Who needs lawyers when you have lawbots? Who needs police officers when you have policebots?

I'm not saying that robots are bad -- fuck, 180º opposite man, I LOVE robots! I wish I could invent real-live robots. I'd love to be skilled enough to be on Team Asimo (Honda) or on similar robotics projects done by Sony and other firms. But what I am trying to say is this: humanity needs to figure out FAST how we're going to adapt to life in a world without work. Because we're getting there pretty fucking fast. We're getting awfully close to the time when no man, woman, or child will depend upon you for their survival, only for their amusement, and that means that you can no longer blackmail them into keeping you alive (with their money) in exchange for your services. Needs are blackmail material; desires, not so much. A doctor tells a patient to cough up $400K or else no surgery. Robo-Surgeon says he needs $10 for oil and parts-replacement and that's it. Gee, I wonder. ;p How will humanity get on in the world once we can no longer justify our individual worth by our professions? How will we justify to ourselves and to others that we deserve to live when every last one of us is an unemployed freeloader who is clothed, fed, and taken care of by technology?

In the meantime, I'll let them argue about their petty piracy of music and anime. It's a laughably trivial argument compared with the much larger matter at hand.
 

reingiolt

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ah my philosophical side want's to participate in this discussion but i'm busy clearing HDD space. i'll respond after i get more than 15 GB of free space

anyway is it just me or is TT down?
 

redrooster

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no, it isn´t down, there´s just something caused by the domain owner, this is their message:

2009-04-20 Regrettably, our domain owner (not me) decided to self-destruct the domain. In the mean time, please use our alternate domain, tokyotosho.info

not everything is working though...
 

HENTAIBEN

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What the fuck? Honestly.

Is the whole internet coming crashing down? Is AO's Hentai section really going to be dying here soon? Is TT going down too? If so, where are we supposed to get new hentai and anime? Should we take precautions to remain in contact with each other? Are robots taking over? I'm freaking out here, I didn't think everything was going to come to a complete halt.

Jeez.