Becoming A Japanese Citizen

aquamarine

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Wow.. well thank you. I just tell the truth as I know it and hate those (cover your ears and eyes, virgins!) faggoty little bottom-feeders that think if a person is Asian, they are easy to use as a fuck-toy.

Sorry children, Japan ain't Thailand.
 

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I would not agree to most of what aquamarine said lol I don't know about getting citizenship but I know several people going over there and not having such troubles in their life and also I heard from people who studied there that people with American passports are more favoured and would have an easier time there
 

aquamarine

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buddy, "going there" and becoming a citizen ain't the same thing
 

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Notice the name of this thread and the focus of this thread's discussion: "Becoming a Japanese Citizen".
 

sergeidragunov

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what is this drama about?
 

aquamarine

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Nothin, don't worry about it Sergei. Just someone new who stated irrelevant information on a topic about something completely different.

BIG HUGS TO ALL! .... Except those who have no first hand experience to back up their claims.
 

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Big hugs to you too brother and salute!

uhm...can you really handle the hug of a bear? LOL just kidding!
 

aquamarine

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I think I can. A buddy of mine back home is about 350 pounds, 6"5 and very VERY gay. I get a 'bear' hug from him every time I see him.
 

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Woah, sorry for this late reply (I've been busy lately, personal stuff), but do you really have to be so hostile? That's not exactly a great way to welcome someone into a community.

Become a citizen:

1) Were you born in Japan to one or more Japanese citizen parents?
2) Were you born in Japan to one or more Japanese citizen parents?
3) Were you born in Japan to one or more Japanese citizen parents?

If you answered 'no' to any one of these, then no, you can not become a Japanese citizen. You can get a work visa, a travel visa, a spousal visa, but that's it. Even if you get married to a Japanese citizen, have TEN children and 'think' you own a car and a business (which legally you don't - both must be owned by a Japanese citizen), then still no.

The reason I asked is because it's hard to find exact information, and everything I've ever looked at contradict one another. I was hoping, giving the nature of this website, that someone knows more about it than the internet does.

Yes, yes it really is.


Sorry buck-rogers, speaking Japanese has dick-all to do with becoming a Japanese citizen. If your parents aren't Japanese, then neither are you. Your children CAN be Japanese, if you marry a Japanese citizen. But you have as much chance of becoming a "Japanese citizen" as I do of being r***ing by Godzilla.


You can be born to parents that aren't Japanese. That works pretty well in preventing you.


1) What kind of education do you have?
2) What kind of degree do/will you have
3) What kind of work do you expect?
Are you thinking you can walk into Japan with no sponsor, no work visa and subsequently no knowledge of the Japanese people or culture, and get a high-paying head-hunter/CEO job? HA! Not going to happy, Canyon Man. If you can speak Japanese and have a better resumé than the OTHER guy applying for the same job and have more experience in a certain field than the other guy, then it's just as likely that you'll get the job as anyone else with your qualifications over someone who isn't qualified.

Basically: Are you qualified for a job? Yes? Then you probably will get it if you are more qualified than the last guy.

If a man from Greece moves to Florida and can speak "Hello" and "My name is Ishmael" but no other English, do you think anyone other than basic labor jobs will hire him? Seriously?

It's not that I expect to move to Japan and take over some business and be rich. Hell, I would like to own my own business one day - we all have dreams, right? - but even in America, I doubt that I can bring that dream to fruition. I'll probably end up with a fucking desk job my whole life in America, I don't really expect much different there. Work isn't why I'm interested in moving, I just wanted to know if I would actually be able to obtain work other than the lowest, menial jobs, if I was qualified. You make it sound like I expect to just move there and have everything handed to me on a silver platter.



If your university/college is recognized by the Japanese government, then your degree is as good as any other. But don't kid yourself while beating off at mom and dads house... if you do not have a company in Japan willing to sponsor you, then you ain't getting in with a work visa.

Ok, if this is true, a link to a list of colleges "recognized by the Japanese government" would be wonderful.


Smart move on their behalf.

I suppose I should have elaborated here; my parents aren't exactly the richest in the world as it is - from a very early age my parents have made it clear that without a scholarship, going to college would be something that would be... very iffy. That's why I've always worked "hard" in school, and I believe I was top in my class (not that that that was saying much... my school was pretty bad). But my parents wouldn't fund anything out of state, really, in an effort to get me to stay here. Which isn't happening - I don't want to stay in this state, whether I move foreign or not.


Why not stay in America? Move to another location? If you think that moving to Japan will solve all of your woes and make you 'supa-sta white boy!' then you're mistaken unless you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to contract gonorrhea and chlamydia from a Yomamnba who'll spread her legs for any American and is already carrying 'the drip' from her last Nigerian escapade from yesterday.

You're just being an asshole here, no offense. I could ramble on all day with my autobiography explaining every reason I want to move foreign, but to save the details, I've always hated the life I live, the place I live, the country I live in, etc. Japan was never really my focus - it was more of Europe, or maybe Canada, since that's even closer. But as I got older, and got closer to the age I am now (18) where it's becoming urgent I decide what to do with my life, I started doing a lot more "research" into the locales I was interested in, and talked to my myriad of European/Canadian friends that I have met thanks to the wonderful thing that is the Internet, and a lot of them hate their countries. That's not to say all of them, but most of them say they want to move to America... and if they want to move to this shithole, where they're from must be really, really bad.... That leaves pretty much the only place left that I knew I was willing to move - Japan.

I'm not trying to attention whore, but I've always been depressed, and I've never really had that bright of an outlook on my life. I want somewhere to move to to get away from all of my local problems, get away from this horrid country, and start over, try to make something of myself in an environment that I'm hoping would be better than the one I am currently in. I haven't even visited Japan yet - I've talked to people that have, but that's it - so I guess I'm putting false hope into something I don't know 100% to be true. But I do know, no matter what anyone says to try to convince me, I won't be happy here, so even if there's that 99% chance that Japan would be just as horrible a place to live as America is, I'm still willing to risk that 1% - it's the only thing I really have. And if Japan fails for me, I'm not sure what I will do. It's the only real hope for anything that I have - of course I've contemplated everything, a few friends have asked me where I would live if I had to stay in the States - and I don't think I will live in the States... again, I'm not trying to attention whore, but you asked why I wanted to move, so there's my (short... lol) answer.


Stay in America. You'll do more good there than you would here with your current education and lack of knowledge. Hell, you came to a cartoon porn website to ask for questions on moving to Japan... that says a LOT to me. Not that there's anything wrong with this site, it simply shows me that you aren't really serious. Why do I think this?

I wasn't aware that this was a cartoon porn website. I realized that there was hentai here, but I assumed, given the fact that there's more forums than just a hentai forum here, that you could discuss things other than tentacle r***. Why wouldn't I be serious? This place has a lot of people that seem knowledgeable of Japan.

1) You said you WOULD NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE in the USA....
So you haven't already?

No... I haven't made the move to college yet. Like I previously said, I need to know if Japan is even plausible, and even if it isn't, if my American degree would be worth anything in any foreign country I may want to move to. Seems kind of a waste to me to blow half a million fucking dollars on a degree that's worthless where I live at.

2) You RELY ON YOUR PARENTS...
Are you 15? Christ... I had to pay my entire tuition myself when I went to college.

18, and have you been to college? It's not exactly cheap, and I don't particularly want to be paying off student loans until I retire.

3) I'm going to say this in the nicest possible method... GROW UP AND GROW A PAIR. I say this because from what you have mentioned, I get the distinct impression that you are under the legal age (can not vote, buy cigarettes or drink) and have no life experience. That is the LAST thing that I want to see more of in Japan.

I've been living by myself for a while now, pretty much lived by myself ever since I turned 16 considering the fact my parents never stayed at home, and hell, I even spent the whole summer when I was 12 working and living by myself. I can take care of myself, that's no problem. All I wanted was some answers, anything that could help me out at all, but I suppose that's just too much to ask. And basically telling someone to fuck off isn't exactly the "nicest possible method."

There you go. No sugar coating. Just fact after cold hard and dream-destroying fact.

As a final render of this vat of disgust, I want to know one thing...
Why do you want to come to Japan so badly? Do you REALLY REALLY REALLY like anime and cosplay girls?

I already explained that earlier. I like anime, but I'm not obsessed with it... I haven't watched anime (or TV of any sort, for that matter) in some months now. I like it, true, but not enough to decide to move to its country of origin. And as for cosplay girls... real life ones? Meh. Hentai ones that fuck you? If only it were real.... Though I have to admit Kagome (or whatever the hell she's going by now) that voiced Meryl in Metal Gear Awesome is pretty cute. ^_^

It's really late, and I'm supposed to go to work a little early tomorrow. I only read about half of the replies, and thanks to those that were nice in their response. I know this isn't exactly the best way to join a forum - explaining my likely-to-be-unfulfilled dreams and generally being a drama queen - but I hope you guys (girls?) can accept me anyway. :D
 

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I'm going to try to not get mixed up in the drama, just put down a few of my thoughts.

Getting Japanese citizenship is not impossible, but it's a very trying process and in most regards isn't really worth it. Practically, the only thing you might get from holding a Japanese passport is going through the "express lane" at NRT/KIX. All other factors about life in Japan are unlikely to change to any significant degree, and you would probably have more challenges by losing your American passport than benefits from gaining Japanese citizenship. Of course if you were coming from a less fortunate country this could be a completely different issue, but compared to American citizenship it really isn't worth it. So for all intents and purposes, aquamarine is right in that the short answer is "no".

Go to college in America. You might not like the idea of spending 4+ more years in America, but a diploma from an accredited American university will be far more useful than one from a Japanese university. That is, going to Japan with an American diploma in hand will open you up to more opportunities -- not guaranteed, but much better than if you have the same diploma as all other Japanese. Conversely, if your American diploma doesn't get you anywhere in Japan, at least it's still worth something in America (and possibly other countries); a Japanese diploma is pretty much locked into Japan, and if that fails then there's no alternative. After all, the rest of your life is much longer than 4 years, and (at least in our lifetime) an American diploma will carry you much further in life.

And last, if you really want to make a commitment to Japan, you must find something more than "just anime". Being a fan of anime is great as a hobby, but it's just not a viable way to live your life, no matter where in the world you are. Japan has no shortage of other great things to offer so it shouldn't be hard to find something; but if anime is the main reason you want to go to Japan, you won't last very long. (Even the most talented artists, whose lives revolve around manga/anime, find life very difficult.)
 

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I already explained that earlier. I like anime, but I'm not obsessed with it... I haven't watched anime (or TV of any sort, for that matter) in some months now. I like it, true, but not enough to decide to move to its country of origin. And as for cosplay girls... real life ones? Meh. Hentai ones that fuck you? If only it were real.... Though I have to admit Kagome (or whatever the hell she's going by now) that voiced Meryl in Metal Gear Awesome is pretty cute. ^_^

Hey c69! welcome here and I've read your message. you can go to Japan! I know you can! we just have to work harder right? have confidence!

So you play Metal gear? I've finished all metal gear including mgpo on psp and mg1 and mg2 on msx! I'm a fan you know! I assume you also like to be in TGS right?
 

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C69 said:
do you really have to be so hostile?

Yep, I most certainly do.

C69 said:
The reason I asked is because it's hard to find exact information, and everything I've ever looked at contradict one another. I was hoping, giving the nature of this website, that someone knows more about it than the internet does.

You haven't considered looking at your local govn't embassy webpage or... I dunno... visiting them in person? Here, go to town. http://www.us.emb-japan.go.jp/english/html/

C69 said:
You make it sound like I expect to just move there and have everything handed to me on a silver platter.

Because most foreigners that come to here and China often do.


C69 said:
I suppose I should have elaborated here; my parents aren't exactly the richest in the world as it is - etc etc etc

That's fair. I paid my own way as well.


C69 said:
You're just being an asshole here, no offense.

Welcome to life. If you can't take it here and get offended by it ONLINE... then how in the hell do you expect to survive in the real world when you won't be able to bitch and moan to your current friends, let alone your family? Think I'm an asshole? Hoooooboy... wait till you're in the Japanese work-force.


C69 said:
But as I got older, and got closer to the age I am now (18)

Go to university first bucky, THEN let's talk about immigrating.



C69 said:
I'm not trying to attention whore

Good, cuz that's my job on this forum.


C69 said:
I've always been depressed, and I've never really had that bright of an outlook on my life.

There's meds for that.

My suggestion is this... don't talk to people or listen to stories of people how have VISITED Japan, k? I've VISITED Moscow, but that sure as shit doesn't mean I want to live there. I've VISITED Thailand.. and again, not a place I want to live.


C69 said:
No... I haven't made the move to college yet. Like I previously said, I need to know if Japan is even plausible

Let me put it this way... get a degree, then consider coming over. As a yank, you can't get a working holiday visa and with no degree, you can't live here (unless you have minimum three years experience in a specific field that is in dire need of workers - and what with the tanking of Nova, teaching English is out of the question for you). If you want to teach English, forget about those TESOL/TOEFL certificates, they do diddly-shit in Japan (however useful in China, South Korea and Europe).


C69 said:
and have you been to college? It's not exactly cheap, and I don't particularly want to be paying off student loans until I retire

Yep, I have a degree in Sociology from the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, Canada. And I did it by paying my own way thanks to student loans which I paid off within two years. How? I worked and didn't fuck around at the bars like so many college red-neck kids.


C69 said:
And basically telling someone to fuck off isn't exactly the "nicest possible method."

So let us re-cap, shall we?

1) Get a degree in anything
2) Make sure said degree is from a reputable university (sorry, trade schools and community colleges do NOT count)
3) Make sure said degree from said college is a MINIMUM three-year DEGREE, not DIPLOMA.
4) Grow some balls and quit being a fucking depressed emo, that shit doesn't fly over here.
5) Find a company to sponsor you
6) Don't make us ugly crackers look any worse than we already are in the eyes of the Tokyo governor.

Edit: Removed the flames
 

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Hi my american friend! How's your reaction regarding Obama as president? It looks like Mr. Aquamarine really is telling you to fuck off. LOL! Speaking of which, I have business to take care of in Romania. After which I'm gonna visit Greece and Bulgaria. So if you happen to go to these places let us meet up. You have no idea how beautiful these countries are.
 

aquamarine

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I didn't actually read Guy's post until this evening, so I must agree with everything he says. I just say it... well... more rudely.

Sergei: I should point out that I didn't tell the kid to f'koff until HE said I told him to f'koff, then I lived up to his expectation and... well... told him to f'koff.
 

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Okay, first post here, this thread got my attention a helluva lot more than the torrents (imagine that), so I thought I'd write back to C69... first off, I'm half and speak Japanese (not fluently, though 2nd gen. here), my girlfriend is a Japanese national who lives in Mejiro, and I have no problem getting around the city on my own (thanks to those nifty suica cards). No degrees, I'm a 29 year old paramedic. Let's look at where I stand:

Japanese mother, familiar with the language and culture, Japanese girlfriend, and being able to tell people that I do something other than teach English (yes, saying you're an English teacher is that bad).

Do I think I have a snowball's chance in hell of making it here? No. Hell no. Seriously, everything that aquamarine said in his first post that destroyed your self esteem was spot-on. Or at least in my opinion. It's nice that other people here are attempting to help you perpetuate your dream of becoming a citizen there, but if you think that you can just show up without knowing the language or having an education and work part-time at a ramen shop while you put yourself through college, you are making a very big mistake. For one thing, what you would deem racism is actually the norm. Their country, their rules, that's just how it goes. You could be totally fluent in Japanese, live there half your life, and still put up with crap because you look like a foreigner. It's not like America where everyone's race is all mixed up and speaking fluent English is enough to pass yourself off as a national.

Another, as mentioned before, their idea of work is just plain fcuked in my opinion. If your boss told you to be in half an hour early and stay two hours late, all off the clock, would you: a) tell him to fcuk himself, b) cite fair labor laws and get him to pay everyone the OT they deserve while making you the office hero, or c) thank him for the opportunity to work harder for the company. If you picked the first two, don't bother. I know you thought aquamarine was being an asshole, but sad to say, you will not be the next Karate Kid or that white brat from "Forbidden Kingdom"-- hell, you won't even be able to get a job handing out fliers to host clubs outside of Shinjuku station. So please, seriously, stay home and finish school first-- you might even be able to get into a language study program and stay in Japan a year or two-- and test the waters before you jump in. I'd worry about you going there, failing, and ending up in a locked car with a hibachi burning, but then again, that would imply that you took responsibility for your failure. If you think life sucks here, going to another country will not solve your problems.

Also, while this may be a ratty question, do you have a girlfriend? I seriously think that if you did, life wouldn't seem as miserable (unless, as with my ex, she Japanese-Korean and thinks that catching you cheating is justification for attempting to ruin your life, job, and stalk your girl).

So, yeah. Aquamarine was harsh, but I honestly think he was being very matter-of-fact about all of this. Japan is not everything that your friends (who probably only visited Akihabara and think that the girl they stalked at the maid cafe is really their girlfriend) made it out to be. Do you think that any Japanese girl who watches "Friends" thinks she could just hop on a plane and make it in NYC?
 

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Ceiling: Very good post, I agree with everything you said there. However if he and others seem to think that they know what's best for this kid, then that's fine and dandy. Let him move here with no knowledge of what to REALLY expect and let him stumble on his own. Then we'll all laugh at him as things come crashing down. I've seen it happen SO many times before and it'll keep on happening because people (especially children) are inexperienced, eager and to put it bluntly, stupid.

C69: We've given you the facts. Now go and do some research on your own. Hell, COME to Japan if you want to do it so badly. Go work at your local McDonalds and save up for a couple months. If you still want to travel, then c'mon out, but life here is not easy, glamorous or as much fun as might have been shown in the latest Ranma 1/2 or that you saw in Lost In Translation.

You like Japan: Great! That's a start!
You have never been here: Well, that's a problem especially if you don't know why you want to come here OTHER than you want to 'get away'. Why not move up to Canada? Hell, working at McDonalds there will net you $16/hour right now (labor shortage across the country) or why not work in the Alberta Oil Fields? $9,000/month.

For this last portion of my reply (for now), I'll say this....

Get yourself an education in the USA. Don't even THINK about anything other than that. Why? Well to put it simply: without a degree, you're about as useful as the Nigerians that are trying to usher me into their skeezy little clubs in Roppongi.

You + No Degree + Standing In Japan = Clump of used toilet paper sitting in the middle of a shopping mall hallway

You + Degree + Standing In Japan = Toilet paper curled up on a roll on a cruise ship.

Comprendé?
 

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Okay, first post here, this thread got my attention a helluva lot more than the torrents (imagine that), so I thought I'd write back to C69... first off, I'm half and speak Japanese (not fluently, though 2nd gen. here), my girlfriend is a Japanese national who lives in Mejiro, and I have no problem getting around the city on my own (thanks to those nifty suica cards). No degrees, I'm a 29 year old paramedic. Let's look at where I stand:

Japanese mother, familiar with the language and culture, Japanese girlfriend, and being able to tell people that I do something other than teach English (yes, saying you're an English teacher is that bad).

Do I think I have a snowball's chance in hell of making it here? No. Hell no. Seriously, everything that aquamarine said in his first post that destroyed your self esteem was spot-on. Or at least in my opinion. It's nice that other people here are attempting to help you perpetuate your dream of becoming a citizen there, but if you think that you can just show up without knowing the language or having an education and work part-time at a ramen shop while you put yourself through college, you are making a very big mistake. For one thing, what you would deem racism is actually the norm. Their country, their rules, that's just how it goes. You could be totally fluent in Japanese, live there half your life, and still put up with crap because you look like a foreigner. It's not like America where everyone's race is all mixed up and speaking fluent English is enough to pass yourself off as a national.

See, I'm not trying to dispute your claims, but this is why I asked my question here - I was hoping for one solid answer. Because one website will have people claiming Japanese people are the nicest people you will ever meet, really nice to foreigners, not racist, etc. etc. And then other websites... the exact opposite. And this topic doesn't really clarify anything - you have some people that say one thing, and others that say different. It's all just one big confusing jumble, and in the end, it's going to just come down to picking one side of the argument and blindly believing it, until I save up enough money to visit the country and see for myself.

As for what I would do in order to go to college there, if, hypothetically, I was - I really don't know. I have so many different plans for my life, all of which I can't decide between. And the funny thing is, I could be much less prepared. I've been planning everything even back when my peers were planning the best way to get laid, back when the puberty-induced sex desire craze struck everyone. I've just never had the money to visit anywhere foreign, and all of my plans basically rely on me finding somewhere to live that I will be happy. If I can't find a place to live happily, why should I even bother trying to live? That's really my only goal right now is to find somewhere that I would want to live, and based off of what I do know of Japan, I think that might be it. That's why I'm so - perhaps blindly - obsessed with Japan. Maybe Japan isn't where I want to live. Maybe I'll visit it and it'll be a total shit hole. What then? Where do I go? I've considered several places, as I mentioned in my last post, such as English-speaking European countries and, yes, Canada. But would I really be better off there than in America?

I don't know. Probably not. Maybe? But probably not.

Japan is so different from the white-dominated countries. And it's not a dump like, say, Africa (no offense to any Africans...). I'm so interested in it because its different. Because I want to, yes, be someone that I know I'm not. I want to get away from myself, and really the only country worth living in where I can do that would be Japan.

I would even be willing to put up with what is admittedly pretty bullshitty, like being forced to work anytime the boss wants me to, or whatever.

I think part of it is finding myself, and maybe I think I might be hidden somewhere in Japan.

And if that all sounded like some Emo/goth/whatever-the-hell-its-called song, maybe I should be a songwriter. They make good money. *rolleyes*

In complete seriousness, you that accuse me of wanting to live in Japan because I think I'll be some kind of sex-idol, or because I like anime, or because I think Japan is really like it's portrayed in the manga, need to stop throwing around blind accusations (and no, that's not aimed at you, Ceiling Cat, as I don't believe you accused me of this).

Another, as mentioned before, their idea of work is just plain fcuked in my opinion. If your boss told you to be in half an hour early and stay two hours late, all off the clock, would you: a) tell him to fcuk himself, b) cite fair labor laws and get him to pay everyone the OT they deserve while making you the office hero, or c) thank him for the opportunity to work harder for the company. If you picked the first two, don't bother. I know you thought aquamarine was being an asshole, but sad to say, you will not be the next Karate Kid or that white brat from "Forbidden Kingdom"-- hell, you won't even be able to get a job handing out fliers to host clubs outside of Shinjuku station. So please, seriously, stay home and finish school first-- you might even be able to get into a language study program and stay in Japan a year or two-- and test the waters before you jump in. I'd worry about you going there, failing, and ending up in a locked car with a hibachi burning, but then again, that would imply that you took responsibility for your failure. If you think life sucks here, going to another country will not solve your problems.

See earlier. OK, Aquamarine, I'm being an attention whore emo kid. Whatever. Will my life improve in Japan? How would anyone know, myself included, unless I actually tried living there? Maybe there are many things wrong with Japan, and many reasons you might think I would not like it there. But how would I know unless I tried? Hypothetically, let's say I visit Japan and find out that it sucks. What about then? Where am I going then?

Will Japan solve my problems? To be honest, I don't really believe it myself. But it's kind of the last hope I have, so I want to see this dream true. Sometimes dreams do become reality; maybe I'll be happier, if just slighter, there than I would be here.

And of course I planned on visiting the country first before I tried to move there; I hope no one's stupid enough to decide to move to a country they've never been to. :p

Also, while this may be a ratty question, do you have a girlfriend? I seriously think that if you did, life wouldn't seem as miserable (unless, as with my ex, she Japanese-Korean and thinks that catching you cheating is justification for attempting to ruin your life, job, and stalk your girl).

Girlfriend?

Meh. I don't really know what to think about women. Some days I'm sexist. Some days I'm horny. I've never found a woman I think I could be with. I doubt I ever will. I'm a likeable guy, I could probably find a woman that was nice to me, who I could be nice to in return, and date. But someone I would be truly happy with? I doubt it. I don't really want to get into that.

Let's just say that I don't like most women, and when I first had sex several years back and realized that, while fun, it's not all it's hyped up to be, the joy of love was taken away from me. I won't find someone to love me, and sex isn't even all that great. So why bother.

I'm a loner, always have been, and probably always will. I would like to find someone that loves me, but I don't see it happening. This is getting too personal, so I will stop now. :D

So, yeah. Aquamarine was harsh, but I honestly think he was being very matter-of-fact about all of this. Japan is not everything that your friends (who probably only visited Akihabara and think that the girl they stalked at the maid cafe is really their girlfriend) made it out to be. Do you think that any Japanese girl who watches "Friends" thinks she could just hop on a plane and make it in NYC?

I have a lot of growing up to do, still, I'm not going to deny that. But I've made it very clear why I so desire to visit Japan. I never truly planned on going into anything this personal, especially with this being my first few posts here, I just really wanted some basic answers that would help me plan my life out, and I didn't so much want advice. I feel like I know a decent amount about Japanese culture, enough to not make myself look like some blundering foreign idiot if I were to visit. Of course I was going to visit first; with or without you guys' advice, I will have visited Japan and may even not like what I find there.

I just had a few fairly simple questions that I didn't mean to turn into a debate of any sorts like this....

As an ending statement, I'll admit that I'm stupidly blinded by my desire to find something to make me happy that's not drugs. Will Japan do it? I don't know - but it's top of my list of things to try, and that's why I am seriously going to look into a life there, if I like what I find there when I manage to visit. There's a lot of "if"s there, but aren't there always? ;)

And to the guy that asked (sorry, I don't remember your name -_-), yes, I love Metal Gear. :p
 

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C69 said:
Where do I go? I've considered several... Canada. But would I really be better off there than in America?

To start, Canada is in America, hate to tell you. Good lord, what is the United States education system teaching their youth?

C69 said:
it's not a dump like, say, Africa
What in the hell.... and people still ask me why I dislike whites most of all...

C69 said:
I think I'll be some kind of sex-idol, or because I like anime, or because I think Japan is really like it's portrayed in the manga
OK Bucky O'Hare, prove me wrong then, will ya?

C69 said:
I'm a loner, always have been, and probably always will
OK, with permission from someone else, I'd love to Freud this boy.


Anyways, what with some fun deconstruction out of the way, I'd like to finalize this discussion with this.

We have answered your questions.
You are not suitable right now to live in Japan.
Presently you are useless in Japan.
Make yourself useful.

Feel free to bitch and complain about how poor you are, how emo you are and how intellectually dull you are. It won't change the fact that if you keep your current attitude, you'll find yourself in even more seclusion in a country where you know no-one, have no friends and where even your peers will avoid you because you're no fun to be around.

To reiterate, grow yourself a pair of balls, be a f'in man and grow up a bit more. Then when you become useful (this portion isn't an insult), then maybe consider moving. For the time being, you are of no use to the Japanese society. That isn't an insult. That's the cold hard truth.

You + Now = A used tampon circling the toilet drain
You + Degree + Testicular Fortitude = A fresh tampon, newly opened