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90s porn vs current porn?

Discussion in 'Adult Discussion' started by Muz1234, May 24, 2019.

  1. Muz1234

    Muz1234 Active Member

    Are porn in the old decades very different than the current porn? I try to compare both and it feels different to watch them.
     
  2. barba

    barba we all make mistakes

    i wonder how many times an unsuspecting japanese wanker picked up an old jav and discovered his mother or grandmother getting nailed in it.


    must happen.
     
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  3. Supmop

    Supmop Akiba Citizen

    if you ask 90's vs current porn I don't feel much different

    only more interracial and more orgy actions, and ofcourse more internet stuffs
     
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  4. grisa

    grisa Akiba Citizen

    MIlestones somehow stay the same. ;)
     
  5. fenton

    fenton Well-Known Member

    VHS kind of soft filters everything. Also there was a lot less of it so higher production values and of course we only see the best girls from that era now, all the others were lost to time.
     
  6. pikuseru

    pikuseru Well-Known Member

    The difference you describe is known as "fake penetration".
     
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  7. motherofgod69

    motherofgod69 New Member

    There's also a thing I've noticed. 90s porn is much more reserved in terms of kinks, it's more standard, and in a way sometimes a lot more intimate looking. Also less professional but that's to be expected.
     
  8. holyabdul

    holyabdul Active Member

    I started back in the days of VCDs and Sanae Asou and Jun Kusanagi.

    The vids were shorter. More cuts. Fake sex. And poorer vid quality of course.
     
  9. fenton

    fenton Well-Known Member

    Back in the 80s up to the mid 90s you had two extremes. There were the completely fake videos with no actual sex, and there were the completely real ones where they didn't even use condoms. A lot of those real ones are available uncensored, either released for export or just released uncensored at the time because the censorship rule was not well enforced.

    Unfortunately they did tend to be a bit vanilla. Rerely any nakadashi, gokkun etc. They did do some bondage though, and some "violent" stuff like fake rape, yakuza etc.

    Some of the women were incredible. It helps that the blurry VHS and VCD kind of airbrushes them but many were genuinely hot, and also it wasn't like today where there are new ones every month and the average career is about 3 movies.
     
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  10. lavicia

    lavicia Member

    Viagra had a huge part to play in ruining porn. In the 90s the male lead used to have to be aroused by the female star and that chemistry would be palpable on screen. Nowadays it's chemically induced and so lacks any passion.
     
  11. Supmop

    Supmop Akiba Citizen

    its true, in the 90s a lot of fake penetrations :D at that time better to watch taiwan porn ... I'm too late to know :(
     
  12. holyabdul

    holyabdul Active Member

    Walking down memory lane, goddam I sure miss this lady that only did a few vids in the late 90s or early 2000s. This was before the days of dvd.

    Her name is Rara Kusakari. She's like 40 now. Imagine if she made a comeback in the mature genre. But chances are she married some rich dude and is living a good life now.

    http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Rara_Kusakari
     
  13. grisa

    grisa Akiba Citizen

    I have no means how to verify this, but it's indeed very interesting thought that never crossed my mind before.
     
  14. As stated above, obviously, picture quality was different.
    I have some early 2000's porn on DVD (bought when I was living in Taiwan, not even sure the stuff was legal as it was often sold on consumer DVD-R) and picture quality ranged from somewhat decent to downright atrocious -- long or 2 part movies down to 320x240 and re-compressed to fit on 1 disc.

    We're moving to higher and higher resolutions. Wouldn't be surprised to see movies advertised as 'shot in 8K' by the end of the year/early 2021. It's going to be awesome: we'll be able to count how many hairs our favorite AV actresses have in each nostril :)

    It's also, once again as previously said above, probably more hardcore. Double penetrations occur way more often, and so is fisting.
    But they don't seem to be into double pussy penetration, double anal etc.
    Problem with censorship (the mosaic would take all the space) or still some cultural differences with the West?

    Though that point may be up for debate, I don't know what could be found in the more underground productions.
    And besides, after all, Sato Hisayasu shot a couple of 'mainstrem' pinku eiga in the early 90's with scenes involving... err... well, let's say that some performers were not Homo Sapiens.
     
  15. fenton

    fenton Well-Known Member

    It's a lot more obvious in western porn. You can see that the guys are struggling to cum, having to jack themselves off because they are kept hard by the viagra but not really turned on enough to climax.

    JAV often has the opposite problem where the guy can't stay hard.
     
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  16. jane2man

    jane2man Member

    90 is best , because hard to make it

    now, easy to make it......
     
  17. vincent_z

    vincent_z Low Angler

    I have managed to obtain a few JAVs, including a couple of VHS' dating back to the mid-1980s (which were re-released by ArtErotica on DVD). Also a number of reverse-mosaiced videos on VCDs. And I would still appreciate seeing the explicit, non-mosaiced videos made at this time when some new Japanese production studios thought Eirin would not apply to videos released for private home viewing. (They were released in the U.S.A. by a concern called "Orchids International".)
    I have 'liked' a couple of replies here which state that penetration was faked (and the mosaicing obliterated everything); and thus was why we had some very beautiful females in AVs in the late 1980s. When you get to 1991-94, penetration was occurring, but we still couldn't see it. The plots of AVs relied on sex scenes, but producers were still hesitant to show the action in quasi-visibility.
    The door being opened to AVs showing the lewd act was the mainstream Japanese movie by Banmei Takahashi, "New World Of Love" (1994).
    When AV studios, producers, and directors viewed what was allowed to be displayed therein, they dove into the hole with vim and vigor. From this point, pretty much everything (including inter-species sex :xD:) was going to be permitted; and not restricted only to what was available in the underground.
     
  18. SakanaShachou

    SakanaShachou Well-Known Member

    It's a long one, so if you're in a reading mood...

    I researched the rise of the "Ethics" companies that monitor Japanese AV. I agree with some things, like keeping the depiction of the age of an actress in a sailor suit ambivalent just to say that, while it is okay to like the way an adult performer looks in a particular uniform, it is not okay to pursue sex with minors! It's why they currently block out one of the letters in the phrase "JK" ("joshi kosei", meaning female high school student but carrying the implication that she's available for rental), or the the second "ko" in the word, "kokosei" (just plain old high school student) on covers now.

    Ethics companies have been around since the 70s but their influence rises and falls. They rose again when the "exposure" videos were getting out of control around the early 2000s! Women getting bukkake'd in Shibuya; giving handjobs on actual trains and buses; and masturbating or fucking in the back of a real convenience store! Surprised we never heard about anyone getting arrested! I loved Riku Minato but if I walked into my local deli on the way home from the gym and she's shiofuki'ing all over the sports drinks, much as I'd love that sweet nectar of hers all over my face in another context, I'll be walking a block or two to another store for my purchase. Time and place, guys. Time and place! I think there should be some standards.

    There are even tiers for what is allowed to be shown. So, showing unpixelated genitals is always forbidden. The A-list AV companies like SOD and Deep's can show the anus and pubic hair as long as the video has a story. Those one-off videos that are usually just one scene don't have to have any story so they can produce on the cheap but they gotta pixelate more of the private areas. Despite this I have seen a ton of uncensored one-off videos, mostly starring unknown actresses but sometimes A-list performers, like Maya Kawamura, Sora Shinna, Ichika Kamihata and AIKA. Maybe they pixelate those in Japan but knowing foreigners like us will be trolling the streaming sites, sell the same videos, uncensored, for overseas distribution.

    Right now the titles have gotten a bit more mainstream because the Ethics companies are flexing their muscle. The chikan videos are mostly done on sets or a real bus or train that was rented for the shoot and filled with extras. There isn't quite as much incest JAV and we don't get bukkake or humiliation series now like the "Dream Woman" or "Dream Gakuen" series from the late 90s/early 2000s. We're not seeing series like "World with Extremely Low Hurdle to Sex" and "World where Rape is Legal". Certain words, like "shouta" or "gakusei" will have one of their katakana scratched out or replaced with a circle on the box art. Even the dialogue isn't always direct. Everyone knows the woman playing the tutor is supposed to be in her twenties and the male being tutored is supposed to be in high school but since that is statutory rape, yes even in Japan, they will pretend they're not depicting that by being coy about it in the script. I've heard the argument that such kinky themes are necessary for a nation so stressed out by work and so repressed that they've gotta engage in hardcore fantasies because people don't even talk honestly about sex to their spouses or partners but even in this fantasy worlk, I think maybe it's good to pull back sometimes. These things go in cycles. When the heat dies down, some director will think of something even more kinky than SOD's "Pop Up Chimpo" series, with dicks popping out of walls, blackboards, desks and barstools. Can you imagine what that will be? Jeez!

    I would like to see movies from Rocket, SOD, Madonna, etc, with subtitles, uncensored and sold in the west but I don't think it would be worth it. Most of the JAV "types" won't appeal to most western men. They just don't have that Saigon whorehouse look. No judgement! I partake on occasion (Who doesn't love Korean American porn star Lucy Lee?!) but for me one or two scenes and it's right back to JAV. For us, it doesn't get any better!

    I'll leave it there.

    -Sakana
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2020
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  19. fenton

    fenton Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised they still do the sexual harassment and rape videos.
     
  20. SakanaShachou

    SakanaShachou Well-Known Member

    It's only a guess but maybe it's a genre they feel they have to do because of the market that's been there for it. Rape is a strange thing to get off on but like I've mentioned, it's part of this sexual fantasy for the Japanese audience that's too stressed out.