DE-censoring JAV with Free Open source LADA application
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Hello, just wanna ask. I just reinstalled my OS yesterday. And i start everything from scratch again. But unfortunately when i want to start jasna, this message are popping up. But the file (ffmpeg.exe) are just sit correctly at the path. I just installed every tool needed (CUDA, TensorRT, cuDNN, TVAI). Is there something i missing out?
Edit: Just realized, the path could be changed (never thought before). And finally it worked again.
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How is performance with Intel arc cards? Nvidia gpu is too expensive, so I'm considering an Arc a310 or 380. how do they compare to an Nvida?
also what is the result with the older heavily pixelated videos eg you can find on highporn? they are not in 1080p in fact many are 480p. does it do an ok job?
also what is the result with the older heavily pixelated videos eg you can find on highporn? they are not in 1080p in fact many are 480p. does it do an ok job?
My suggestion is using NVIDIA newest graphic card. I am also using RTX 5050. Budget-wise it is okay to go, also by my experience in this 2 months it has another advance restoration quality rather than its older version (i am comparing into another user from another forum quality). I think it has its own plus point where it is using Blackwell Architecture (designed for RTX 50 series card, claims it is faster, smarter etc). Yes, it has very strict limitations. Which is the VRAM. But, you can experiment with the setting as long as you won't restorating 4k JAV video (i think it would be too much for the graphic card). And when you said the older JAV movie, i am suggesting use ISO file which is its original file. Convert it using losslesscut, or shutterencoder, so you could maintain the original quality. Because, the main key is the original files. Not only the graphic card. When you could meets their 2 requirements, i think you find the sweet spots. Everything based on my experience. So, please correct me if i am wrong.
thank you. since I am new to all this, I have a few questions -
- which program do you use - lada or jasna (they are the 2 I read about), the jasna oage claims its 2-3x faster, is that true?
- how many video can you convert at once, and on which nvidia card? eg if I get older 3060 vs 5050
- I dont have original files in iso. only downloads
1. I prefer jasna over Lada. I think in my opinion it depends on your settings on jasna. If you don't using Secondary Restoration, such as Topaz Video AI, RTX Resolution or else it is could be faster. But again, it depends on your settings. Since for me, the reason i am using Jasna is because there is so many tweaking i could try on with. And experimenting with it. But, if you want simple use, and fast too, you could go with Lada.
2. As far as i go, i am render max 3 videos (2hrs Estimated per video). And i am too afraid to overuse the graphic card, since i have bad experience with fried graphic cards :
3. I mean, if you okay with it just go for it. My suggestion is if you want to after quality decensoring. Because the final results are depends on your source file. For example, if you are downloading the video with low bitrate and quality, and you decensoring it, i think it would be messed up. But some people are okay with it and i couldn't against it. Again, it is how you want to enjoying it.
I prefer Jasna too for its speed and good decensoring. However, the annoying part is that the output video has a different color tone compared to the original— it's 'colder'. Anyone knows a fix for this?1. I prefer jasna over Lada. I think in my opinion it depends on your settings on jasna. If you don't using Secondary Restoration, such as Topaz Video AI, RTX Resolution or else it is could be faster. But again, it depends on your settings. Since for me, the reason i am using Jasna is because there is so many tweaking i could try on with. And experimenting with it. But, if you want simple use, and fast too, you could go with Lada.
2. As far as i go, i am render max 3 videos (2hrs Estimated per video). And i am too afraid to overuse the graphic card, since i have bad experience with fried graphic cards :
3. I mean, if you okay with it just go for it. My suggestion is if you want to after quality decensoring. Because the final results are depends on your source file. For example, if you are downloading the video with low bitrate and quality, and you decensoring it, i think it would be messed up. But some people are okay with it and i couldn't against it. Again, it is how you want to enjoying it.
The updated version (0.6.2) has the solved for your problems. I guess it much faster too. You should check it out.
maybe I'm blind but I don't see any color difference
so general qn - are the decensored releases made using these 2 apps or do they use something else, and can we get similar results?
how well does it work for the older jav which has much more pixelation. that was the golden age of jav.
Jasna work well with older movie if your source video are proper too. I mean, the real source video. Just like .AVI, or .MKV or even .WMV are work really well. I prefer use third application such as MakeMKV for convert video from ISO file. So it would contain decent quality from the video. You can see the quality from the video using MediaInfo software for more detailed information. Also, if you want to take the decensored into higher level, you should learn how to interlacing or something like that. Because some of the video contain Variable Frame Rate (VFR) which could causing a bit annoying glitchy effect when you use decensoring JASNA. It sounds complicated, but i can guarantee, you will really satisfied with the final quality.maybe I'm blind but I don't see any color difference
so general qn - are the decensored releases made using these 2 apps or do they use something else, and can we get similar results?
how well does it work for the older jav which has much more pixelation. that was the golden age of jav.
My tips: Use Shutterencoder for remux-ing or interlacing old JAV video before it goes into JASNA. It has simple UI and also not really complicated to use.
I found out the cause is my MPC-BE displaying incorrect colors on 10-bit video, not because of Jasnamaybe I'm blind but I don't see any color difference
so general qn - are the decensored releases made using these 2 apps or do they use something else, and can we get similar results?
how well does it work for the older jav which has much more pixelation. that was the golden age of jav.
What settings do you guys use on Jasna without Topaz ai? Currently I use the RTX Super Res restoration, clip size 90, temporal overlap 10, denoise low. When I compare the same video restored from jasna and lada, the restored area for jasna is not as clear / detailed looking as lada. But a lot of people say jasna is better so I'm wondering if my settings are wrong or is jasna only better when using Topaz ai
I have just installed JASNA v0.7.2. My GPU is NVIDIA RTX 2080 Super with 8GB VRAM. At the moment I am experimenting and have only used the default settings.
Picking up on the advice given by many above I gather the three key elements in successful mosaic removal are:
1. Quality is affected by:
a) Using original films in their original format and size.
b) Adjusting the settings.
2. Speeding up the process is done with better GPUs, and/or bigger VRAM, but this doesn't affect the resulting quality.
On point 1a I did a film clip (from GVG-046), original and current size 1280x720 but had been edited in Nero Vision, and the result was excellent. On the other hand a film (NHDT-541) which I think was originally 640x480 but I'd converted to 1280x720 was not so good. However I discovered the problem was not the size but when I edited it I had rotated some of the scenes to about 45 degrees (because the art directors of many of these films often get carried away!). When I rotated the scene back again JASNA worked well. By the way the model on this film has quite a hairy pussy which was being fingered and JASNA seemed to add some of the hairs to the man's hand! I didn't use 'Secondary Restoration'.
On 2, my GPU has a CUDA rating of 7.5 - the minimum required for JASNA. I notice for example that the more modern RTX 5050 that tjoliebeckos is using has the same VRAM (8GB) as my RTX 2080 SUPER but a higher CUDA rating of 12.0. Is it better to get more VRAM or a higher CUDA rating, or perhaps both?
When I processed the 1280x720 films I got typical activity measurements GPU 92% VRAM 45%. For 1920x1080 films I got GPU 93% VRAM 66% (I don't plan to work with 4K). What are sensible figures to aim for so that the GPU has a reasonably long life? (Setting up the JASNA engine seemed to push things to the limit).
Finally, I would like to say that the JASNA GUI is very well set out and easy for a dummy like me to use.
Picking up on the advice given by many above I gather the three key elements in successful mosaic removal are:
1. Quality is affected by:
a) Using original films in their original format and size.
b) Adjusting the settings.
2. Speeding up the process is done with better GPUs, and/or bigger VRAM, but this doesn't affect the resulting quality.
On point 1a I did a film clip (from GVG-046), original and current size 1280x720 but had been edited in Nero Vision, and the result was excellent. On the other hand a film (NHDT-541) which I think was originally 640x480 but I'd converted to 1280x720 was not so good. However I discovered the problem was not the size but when I edited it I had rotated some of the scenes to about 45 degrees (because the art directors of many of these films often get carried away!). When I rotated the scene back again JASNA worked well. By the way the model on this film has quite a hairy pussy which was being fingered and JASNA seemed to add some of the hairs to the man's hand! I didn't use 'Secondary Restoration'.
On 2, my GPU has a CUDA rating of 7.5 - the minimum required for JASNA. I notice for example that the more modern RTX 5050 that tjoliebeckos is using has the same VRAM (8GB) as my RTX 2080 SUPER but a higher CUDA rating of 12.0. Is it better to get more VRAM or a higher CUDA rating, or perhaps both?
When I processed the 1280x720 films I got typical activity measurements GPU 92% VRAM 45%. For 1920x1080 films I got GPU 93% VRAM 66% (I don't plan to work with 4K). What are sensible figures to aim for so that the GPU has a reasonably long life? (Setting up the JASNA engine seemed to push things to the limit).
Finally, I would like to say that the JASNA GUI is very well set out and easy for a dummy like me to use.
For Jasna I've paid my support money and been sent an approximately 230 letter key-code. The key code box on the 'Activate Jasna' window won't allow paste. Am I really expected to type in 230 plus letter etc.? It's also difficult to tell 1 from I (capital i) or l (small L). How did you activate Jasna?
I can't get on Discord and I don't see how to contact the author direct.
I can't get on Discord and I don't see how to contact the author direct.
I'm not familiar with Github but I see what you mean. I posted a request on the 'Issues' tab. Thank you.
Edit. I tried to copy and paste with the mouse as I did not know and have never needed any other way. I was advised that it could be done by keyboard (Copy CTRL+C, Paste CTRL+V) and that worked. Hooray!!
By the way, Kruk2, who writes the Jasna, programme responded within an hour which is appreciated. I was still battling with following his suggestions of using the Command Prompt in some way when someone else suggested using the keyboard.
Now to get to the real work!
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Jasna - my experiments continue.
Using default settings (which include in my case Max Clip Size (MCS) 90) I can get good results. When I increase MCS to 120 I could see no difference (I don't want to go any higher then 120 as I think my GPU won't like it). Neither could I see any difference using Secondary Restoration with RTX or UNET. This applied to four films I tried, for two of which the overall results were disappointing.
I also could not see any difference in Upscaling (from 1280x720 to 1920x1080) before using Jasna, or Upscaling after using Jasna. The difference it does make, though small for me, is that Jasna work time is reduced when restoration is done using 1280x720. So I use Jasna first, then edit the portion of my films that aren't repeated, Upscale that, then further edit by repeating certain clips. I Upscaled using WinXvideo AI.
I've just done one film so far using this method, NHDT-541 (originally 640x480), enlarged previously by me to 1280x720 so quite grainy, and now upscaled to 1920x1080 making it much smoother. I'm very pleased with the overall result - apart from the hairy hand/pussy I mentioned in my earlier post - a quirk of Jasna I assume.
Hairy Hand
1280x720 my original film
1920x1080 after Jasna and Upscaling
Yes, I agree, one film only. I have interestingly enough used Jasna on a 1920x1080 BBTU-052 and it wasn't as good as a BBTU-052 with mosaic removed that I downloaded.
A question then. Has anyone found improved results with higher Max Clip Size settings? Or with Secondary Restoration?
Using default settings (which include in my case Max Clip Size (MCS) 90) I can get good results. When I increase MCS to 120 I could see no difference (I don't want to go any higher then 120 as I think my GPU won't like it). Neither could I see any difference using Secondary Restoration with RTX or UNET. This applied to four films I tried, for two of which the overall results were disappointing.
I also could not see any difference in Upscaling (from 1280x720 to 1920x1080) before using Jasna, or Upscaling after using Jasna. The difference it does make, though small for me, is that Jasna work time is reduced when restoration is done using 1280x720. So I use Jasna first, then edit the portion of my films that aren't repeated, Upscale that, then further edit by repeating certain clips. I Upscaled using WinXvideo AI.
I've just done one film so far using this method, NHDT-541 (originally 640x480), enlarged previously by me to 1280x720 so quite grainy, and now upscaled to 1920x1080 making it much smoother. I'm very pleased with the overall result - apart from the hairy hand/pussy I mentioned in my earlier post - a quirk of Jasna I assume.
Hairy Hand
1280x720 my original film
1920x1080 after Jasna and Upscaling
Yes, I agree, one film only. I have interestingly enough used Jasna on a 1920x1080 BBTU-052 and it wasn't as good as a BBTU-052 with mosaic removed that I downloaded.
A question then. Has anyone found improved results with higher Max Clip Size settings? Or with Secondary Restoration?
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