I agree with Cenk.
I've got a big post, so I'll break it down into reading chunks. When you finish one chunk, move on to the next, okay? ^_^;
[hide]I understand completely the double-standard which Ana is talking about, but it's just like Cenk said! I've never been a teenage girl, so I don't know, but based on my own being and based on the experiences of just about every boy, teen, and man I have ever known my entire life, I think it's fair to say that 90%+ of them would be
thrilled to have had sex with the hot babysitter. Now granted, most of them probably fantasize about it playing out like so: I'm 14, she's 17, meow. :3 But even still! 28 years old,
while up there in years, still keeps her in that ambiguous "young adult" category. She's not yet "a grown-up," per se. Then you gotta factor in that if she's best friends with the kid's mom that:
(a) it's possible that they were friends as kids themselves, i.e. Junior over here was inside Momma's belly when she was just a teenager herself; and
(b) it's probable that he sees her as sort of like an aunt, which brings in the whole incest angle, too
[/hide][hide]Number 2: Cenk is right that men and women react differently to sexual solicitation. Double-standard or not, it's the fucking truth!
Whether or not she REALLY likes it, 99% of women in today's society will react very negatively if you grope them.
Very negatively: mace in the face, "r***! HELP!", calling 911, you name it, you got it. But let's say a dude gets groped by a fugly old hag. Is he going to punch her in the face? No! Is he going to claw her eyes out? No! Is he going to sick the cops on her? NO! He's going to make a disgusted face, remove her hand from his crotch, and step away from her. The end! And let's say instead that he's groped by a really,
really hot woman. What then? You know perfectly well! He's going to think to himself, "HELL YEAH!
"
So again, even though Ana raises a good point about double-standards being unfair and backwards-thinking, ... I think she's forcing the issue. :|
Double-standards aren't always bad. I'll give you some perfectly good examples:
- you give alms to the poor, but not to the wealthy
- you help an old blind lady reach a box on the top shelf, but you don't help a strong, tall young man do the same
- you give car rides home to your friends, but not to jerks
- you lend a video game to your sister, but not to the guy across the street
So on and so on and so forth! The point is,
it would be retarded to treat everybody equally!
[/hide][hide]When feminists, civil rights activists, and so on wage war against "double-standards," what they really mean to say is that they're waging war against
unfair double standards. For example:
- men wear ties but women can't
- women wear skirts but men can't
- a qualified white man can take this position but a qualified black man cannot
- an unqualified white man can take this position even if a qualified black man applies for it
If a guy says, "Women aren't allowed to queef, but men are allowed to fart" (South Park, anyone?), then that would be an unfair double-standard of him to be putting forth.
But that's not what this is about, Ana. This is about a fair double-standard. Because just like Cenk said to you:
- with the 28-year old man and the 14-year old girl, you don't know for certain either way but it seems highly likely that he's a sexual predator and she's unwilling or at least unaware of what she's doing
- but with a 28-year old woman and a 14-year old boy, the odds are really low that the boy wouldn't enjoy it, and the odds also disfavor the woman being a sexual predator
[/hide][hide]Do female rapists exist? YES! Do male r*** victims exist? YES! I'm not saying they don't. But ... I think
every teenage boy has a fantasy like this.
Mine? I remember to this day how badly I wanted to tittyfuck my 7th grade English teacher. She had the biggest boobs I'd *ever* seen attached to a woman (they must have been bigger than DD's, not kidding!) and my eyes were glued to them 9 times out of 10 in every session of class. I also remember how badly I wanted to date (with the goal of becoming boyfriend and girlfriend, and later husband and wife) my 7th grade science teacher. She was
gorgeous, and like Michael J. Fox she looked
way younger than she was. She was in her mid-to-late-20s when we met her, but she didn't look like she was more than 2 years older than I was.
Hooooooooooot. Fucking hot. She was totally "the girl next door" except she was also my science teacher. Two birds, one stone! Damn, she was hot.
If Mrs. T or Mrs. R had made sexual advances on me, might I have been caught offguard and a little abashed at first? Sure. As a kid, I still had a diehard conviction that sex needed to wait until after marriage. But would I have caved in? Definitely. Felt guilty about it? Nope! Enjoyed it? I-m-m-e-n-s-e-l-y. I mean, I
still think about those two women to this day, all these years later.
And that's what I think Cenk is talking about, too. He sees this 28-year old girl and he says, "I'd like to fuck her now, and I know I would have wanted to fuck her back then too." Just like me with Mrs. T and Mrs. R. Just like a lot of guys, I think. That's where Ana's argument falls apart: I don't know
any girls who had crushes on the male teachers at school, because all the guy teachers were either mustachioed dads, bald grandpas, or ugly bachelors-for-life. I know teachers and babysitters aren't the same thing, but in a way they are. What are the odds of a male babysitter being handsome? Slim to none. He's either going to be geeky or creepy. What are the odds of a female babysitter being attractive? In real life, they're fucking low, but they're still a hell of a lot better than the odds for a handsome dude to be your babysitter.[/hide]
