Will Japanese men admit to friends, family and co-workers that they have an interest in U15 junior idols, videos, pictures, etc.?
Will Japanese men admit an interest in U15 junior idols?
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Could be... But i'm pretty sure traditional-types don't admit it. Either they're shy or uphold a sense of decency. I may not know shit about it but i've learned about their "Tate-mae" society...
Could be... But i'm pretty sure traditional-types don't admit it. Either they're shy or uphold a sense of decency. I may not know shit about it but i've learned about their "Tate-mae" society...
I highly doubt it. Hell, I know VERY few North Americans and Euro's that admit to their even more socially acceptable fetishes, let alone one that verges on pedophiliac tendencies.
Really? So the urinals that are designed to look like you're pissing on lolis is normal? Used panty vending machines are normal? This is obviously a big industry. Or do you think it's propped up by the 10 European and American people who pay for it and upload it here and at kawaii15? Vendors won't normally ship outside of Japan, and the sites don't offer services to US customers. The production values on a lot of photo sets seem really high. They're not shooting in the back of vans or behind dumpsters. They are obviously making a boat load of cash in Japan.
Yep, I've seen the same photoshopped image on the internet as well. Neat.
Bring more of an argument to the table other than a three images that had been made for parodist comedy value. As for the used panty vending machines, they certainly do exist, however the two that I have seen with my own eyes, have been tucked away in Akihabara. One was inside of a fetish shop that also sold actual child porn while the other was in a used clothing store in Akiba that sold a variety of clothes from north american style clothing to the actual school uniforms of various high schools.
I still stick to my guns and say no, Japanese men will not admit openly that they are into little girls. Laws are clamping down harder than ever these days and I wouldn't be surprised if they finally outlaw actual child porn here along with other things such as bestiality. Don't get me wrong, if you get your kicks from getting it on with a dead eel, then power to you, I just don't agree with the kiddie porn aspect of things.
You consider junior idols to be child porn? Some of it I won't touch, some girls are way too small for me. And some of the girls really look like they don't want to be doing it. Why a father would let his 6 year old wear a g string is beyond comprehension. But generally speaking, you consider even photo shoots of Mana, the Yamanaka sisters, Nanako Niimi, to be child porn? Don't reply if you haven't seen them. Across the board, you consider junior idols to child porn even if they're well developed?
Let's not forget that the first one is photoshopped, and poorly done at that. As for the second, I've seen similar advertisements on the walls of the Akihabara station, so that in itself isn't anything that surprising. However, still to admit that you're into watching little girls while beating off is NOT something that I think (nearly) anyone would openly admit to.
And here's the original
From Germany, if I recall.
No, I consider child porn and child sexual exploitation when the children (boys or girls) are forced into sexual settings in which if they say No, they will be punished. Do you HONESTLY think that all of your idols that you jerk-off to said when they were 9 "うわー、私は私と私のお尻シャワー午前性的な方法で揺れ中で最高のメインなしで水着を着て、以前の男性は陰茎に触れることを期待"???? I seriously doubt it buddy. And no, for the record I have not seen the titles or girls you have posted, I have seen a few that I had downloaded from here, had no interest in them and deleted them as such, but I'm sorry, I will still reply, that's the beauty of an open forum.
So what do I consider kiddie porn? Here are just a few examples, so you can see where I stand on the subject...
1) Underage children spreading their legs as wide as they can so Hiro can see every fold of their hairless snatch through panties, of swimsuit.
2) Underage children putting on the fake smile and being paraded around, bending over so that you can stare gleefully at their ass while you pound your pud
3) Underage kids slathering their Speedo-swimsuit covered bodies with Nama-Gel and then sliding their bodies across adult men in these videos and photos then showing them jerking off onto the bodies of the children.
Oh, but I guess number three certainly isn't porn, right Hiro? After-all, she isn't nude nor is there any insertion.... right?
The picture of "lolis over urinals" is a photoshop. It is not real and regardless, it is still depicting CARTOON characters -- not real junior idol girls.
Panty vending machines are not the "norm" in Japan. It isn't like Japan is this magical pedo-land paved in pocky with panty vending machines on every corner. There are ordinances banning the machines now and even before then it was still a rarity that you might encounter in a red light district.
As for photobooks depicting minors, most of what you see being posted is stuff from the 90's and not very recent. For example, Chiaki Kuriyama's controversial photobook would not be made/published today because it would be ILLEGAL under current Japanese law. Obviously this stuff exists because Japan has a fixation with childlike innocence, which was at one point in time legally condoned; but laws are finally starting to change.
Junior idol books released now are NOTHING like the Chiaki Kuriyama's photobook or the more blatant chiporuno produced in the 90's. The girls aren't bearing all and there is a concious effort being made by their producers/managers to retain their innocence and marketability to wota fans, who are EXTREMELY conservative about how their "ore no yome" are portrayed. There isn't much being exposed beneath a foot of chiffon padding in their seizure-inducing ballerina skirts either (thankfully).
The question here however was whether or not Japanese men would ADMIT such an interest, not whether or not some ENTERTAIN the interest (which we already know to be true). The answer is no, it is not something a Japanese man would be open about with family, friends, or acquaintances. Even if they met other "fans" at a junior idol concert who they suspected shared the same attraction, it is unlikely that they would share it with them, because it would be too embarrassing/shameful. They might be less inclined to do so in fact because believe it or not, many wota are so ardent in their fandom that they cannot bear the sexualization of their idols.
No matter what you might think from browsing the "loli" section of this site, pedo crap like this IS NOT a socially accepted cultural norm in Japan. It is not "common" for adult Japanese men to lust after 12-year-old girls. It is not "common" for the ones who do to discuss it openly outside of anonymous settings like 2ch. Just because a market exists for it does not mean Japan is open about it. The only reason this kind of blatant child exploitation continues to go on is that the yakuza has a heavily vested interest in the industry.
It bothers me that the prevalence of this stuff online has given people the impression that it is somehow "normal" for Japan, or even worse, "normal" for Japanese men, when it is not.
I agreed with what both aquamarine & Sakunyuusha had previously posted before they got a little outa hand. aquamarine was right that the anime urinal was photoshopped. I recall seeing the original years ago. To the topic question at hand. No Japanese men, or any other man for that matter most likely wouldn't admit to liking U-15 material. This is a blanket statement of course and exceptions can be made. Who is the person admitting to, what is their relationship, etc...
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"3) Underage kids slathering their Speedo-swimsuit covered bodies with Nama-Gel and then sliding their bodies across adult men in these videos and photos then showing them jerking off onto the bodies of the children."
There is such videos? Where?
There is such videos? Where?
aquamarine..... The three instances you mention are not "porn" Its child exploitation, the pornography you see is, I believe, in your mind. You....along with the hysterical media are turning the child model industry underground where it cannot be monitored.
Take a long look at some of the child clothing catalogs, porn or cm ???
But....
You know better than me, it says so on your Avatar.
Take a long look at some of the child clothing catalogs, porn or cm ???
But....
You know better than me, it says so on your Avatar.
Except for all those Japanese men that go to the junior idol DVD signings.
BTW, pedophilia is a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Pubic hair and breast development = not pedophilia.
Misomchi said:
Yea yea, go cry into another used pair of child's panties you bought from the internet.
Yea, that's right. I believe preferences for teens is called ephebophilia or something like that, anyway Wikipedia is your friend.
Anyway..I'm just 17 so I don't think looking at and being attracted by girls around my age is wrong at all ;D